Train Paris-Venise, arrivée à la gare Santa Lucia
by Platecouture
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Je pars avec 3 amies à Venise du 16 au 21 avril 2011. aujourd'hui je suis allée sur le site de sncf et artesia pour réserver les billets de trains.
Première déconvenue il n'y avait déjà plus de billets prem's (pourtant on est juste 3 mois avant le départ) donc j'ai réservé (mais pas encore payé 4 billets pour 520€) 4 allers simples.
Deuxième déconvenue: nous souhaitons arriver à la gare Santa lucia, c'est plus magique et notre hôtel est tout près. mais ça semble impossible on ne propose que la gare de Mestre.
Est-ce que vous pouvez me tuyauter d'une part pour le prix et d'autre part sur la marche à suivre pour arriver à la gare de Santa Lucia sans changer à Mestre.
Merci à tous pour vos renseignements et conseils.
pkoi tu ne prends pas l'avion?
Merci pour ta réponse mais l'arrivée en train est tellement plus magique!!!
En plus l'avion nous revient avec easyjet à 96€ par persone au lieu de 120 par le train; mais on perd toute la journée du dimanche ou alors il faudrait partir la veille et donc payer une nuit de plus donc c'est pas mieux financièrement.
On garde le train c'est sûr et j'espère avoir des billets retour prem's à 45€
Salut
En plus l'avion nous revient avec easyjet à 96€ par persone au lieu de 120 par le train; mais on perd toute la journée du dimanche ou alors il faudrait partir la veille et donc payer une nuit de plus donc c'est pas mieux financièrement.
On garde le train c'est sûr et j'espère avoir des billets retour prem's à 45€
Salut
Si cette réponse s'adresse à moi , c'est bien ce que je dis : le train est à préferer , il fait gagner du temps par rapport à l'avion (essayez d' être devant le Grand canal à 9h30 le matin en prenant l'avion !!!) et dés la sortie de la gare on a l'impression de rentrer dans un extraordinaire décors de théatre où nous attendent gondoles et vaporetto !
Merci Cisalpin,
Super si on n'a pas besoin de changer c'est encore mieux; mais t'es sûr? alors pourquoi ce n'est pas indiqué sur le trajet où seule la gare de Mestre est indiquée comme si c'était le terminus. Enfin tant mieux si c'est possible, pas besoin de descendre les bagages et courir acheter un autre billet pour la suite du voyage!
salut
Super si on n'a pas besoin de changer c'est encore mieux; mais t'es sûr? alors pourquoi ce n'est pas indiqué sur le trajet où seule la gare de Mestre est indiquée comme si c'était le terminus. Enfin tant mieux si c'est possible, pas besoin de descendre les bagages et courir acheter un autre billet pour la suite du voyage!
salut
Non la réponse n'était pas pour toi, 😉 mais je suis tout à fait d'accord.
Par contre je viens de répondre à ton 1er message😄
Avez-vous eu des réponses ? Moi je me suis posée la même question concernant la gare d'arrivée, on m'a répondu que la sncf était mal fichue (le site) et que la gare d'arrivée était santa lucia...
Quant aux billets prems, je ne comprends pas... J'ai fait des simulations trois mois après la date d'aujourd'hui, et ils n'apparaissent pas (je compte partir en juin, en fait...)
Dernière question : comment faire pour que les réponses à mes messages apparaissent sur le site ? Je pense que cela pourrait intéresser des gens ? On m'a répondu , j'ai eu la réponse par ma boîte mail, mais les réponses n'apparaissent pas sur le site... Euh... Je suis toute nouvelle, faut dire !! Merci si vous pouvez me répondre !
130 euros par personne pour un aller pour Venise et dire que pour Rome j'ai payé 70 euros aller et retour. tu t'y es pris véritablement 3 mois avant ?
C'est la magie de la sncf, les prix vont fluctuer pendant les trois mois précédents le départ, selon le nombre de places vendues, selon le mois, si c'est un long week-end, etc. Tu auras parfois des meilleurs prix un mois avant. Il n'y a pas de logique. La seule astuce, c'est de ne rien prévoir sauf le prix qu'on veut mettre, et regarder régulièrement jusqu'à trouver le bon week-end. (quand le prix ne double pas au moment de la validation...)
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Salut Cisalpin,
Mon voyage approche et je le prépare. Aujourd'hui j'ai sors mes billets de train bien rangés dans mon bureau et là je suis inquiète: en effet sur les billets il est marqué arrivée "venezia mestre" et non santa lucia comme demandé. c'est pourtant bien le train de nuit le n°221 et évidemment même chose pour le retour depuis mestre train n°220.
Qu'en penses-tu? tu m'avais dit "sûr, comme 2 et 2 font 4"; j'avoue que je suis un peu sceptique. Peut-être devrons-nous payer un supplément ce ne serait pas grave si on ne change pas de train. Sinon ...
Si tu peux m'en dire plus... Merci pour tout
Mon voyage approche et je le prépare. Aujourd'hui j'ai sors mes billets de train bien rangés dans mon bureau et là je suis inquiète: en effet sur les billets il est marqué arrivée "venezia mestre" et non santa lucia comme demandé. c'est pourtant bien le train de nuit le n°221 et évidemment même chose pour le retour depuis mestre train n°220.
Qu'en penses-tu? tu m'avais dit "sûr, comme 2 et 2 font 4"; j'avoue que je suis un peu sceptique. Peut-être devrons-nous payer un supplément ce ne serait pas grave si on ne change pas de train. Sinon ...
Si tu peux m'en dire plus... Merci pour tout
voyages-sncf est très très loin d'être la Bible ;pour avoir tous les renseignements sur un trajet il faut aller soit
- sur le site de la DB: dbfrance.f
- soit sur celui des CFF :cff.ch
et là tu verras que ce train arrive bien à Santa-Lucia et ne s'arrête même pas à Mestre.
BON VOYAGE!
et là tu verras que ce train arrive bien à Santa-Lucia et ne s'arrête même pas à Mestre.
BON VOYAGE!
Oui, il va à Santa Lucia, no stress !
Pour ceux qui n'y iraient pas, un autre train depuis Mestre en 10 min. à environ 1 euro...
Pour ceux qui n'y iraient pas, un autre train depuis Mestre en 10 min. à environ 1 euro...
Mathilde
Merci Mathilde pour ton message. Me voilà rassurée 🙂
C'est quand même incroyable que la SNCF ne soit pas fichue d'écrire la bonne destination sur ces billets !!!
à +
Patricia
C'est quand même incroyable que la SNCF ne soit pas fichue d'écrire la bonne destination sur ces billets !!!
à +
Patricia
Comme je suis polie, je ne dirais pas ce que j'en pense...
voir
http://fahrplan.sbb.ch/bin/traininfo.exe/fn/290733/187637/449328/127753/95?seqnr=3&ident=b4.01602248.1302377202&date=11.04.11&station_evaId=8768666&station_type=dep&journeyStartIdx=0&journeyEndIdx=9&
voir
http://fahrplan.sbb.ch/bin/traininfo.exe/fn/290733/187637/449328/127753/95?seqnr=3&ident=b4.01602248.1302377202&date=11.04.11&station_evaId=8768666&station_type=dep&journeyStartIdx=0&journeyEndIdx=9&
Mathilde
Merci, ça me rend bien service; je sui allée sur le site que tu m'a conseillé c'est OK pour l'aller on arrive juste un peu plus que ce qui est indiqué , aucun problème. Pour le retour évidemment c'est plus tôt que prévu, 19h57 au lieu de 20h09 à Mestre. Bon mais nous sommes prévenus.
Merci encore
Patricia
Merci encore
Patricia
Merci pour ton message
C'est OK pour l'aller, juste un peu plus tard. Pour le retour, on m'a donné un site suisse je crois et j'ai trouvé l'heure de départ depuis Santa lucia qui était évidemment différente de celle annoncée sur le billet.
Vive la SNCF 😠
Salut
C'est OK pour l'aller, juste un peu plus tard. Pour le retour, on m'a donné un site suisse je crois et j'ai trouvé l'heure de départ depuis Santa lucia qui était évidemment différente de celle annoncée sur le billet.
Vive la SNCF 😠
Salut
Pour l'heure exacte, regarder sur le site de Trenitalia à la date exacte de ton départ (il marque aussi Mestre comme arrivée, mais si on demande le détail des stations, il marque Santa Lucia comme terminus). En mettant "Parigi" comme départ et "Venezia" comme arrivée.
Mathilde
Bonjour Mathilde,
Deux autres questions qui vont peut-être te paraître stupides: 1)le propriétaire de l'apart' qu'on a loué viendra à notre rencontre lorsque nous descendrons du vaporetto. je dois l'appelerà un n° qui commence par 00 39 32 ... mais ça me parait bizarre car je serai moi-même en Italie et je croyais que pour venise il fallait faire 0 41 et le n°du corespondant
2)je voudrias lui envoyer par mail mon n° de portable au cas où, mais comment doit-il faire pour m'appeler lorsque je serai à Venise
NB: il ne parle pas français et moi pas l'italien sinon cela aurait été plus simple 😉
Merci de tes renseignements
Deux autres questions qui vont peut-être te paraître stupides: 1)le propriétaire de l'apart' qu'on a loué viendra à notre rencontre lorsque nous descendrons du vaporetto. je dois l'appelerà un n° qui commence par 00 39 32 ... mais ça me parait bizarre car je serai moi-même en Italie et je croyais que pour venise il fallait faire 0 41 et le n°du corespondant
2)je voudrias lui envoyer par mail mon n° de portable au cas où, mais comment doit-il faire pour m'appeler lorsque je serai à Venise
NB: il ne parle pas français et moi pas l'italien sinon cela aurait été plus simple 😉
Merci de tes renseignements
Non, rien de bizarre, pour un portable 00 39 .... (41, c'est pour les fixes)
Depuis l'Italie, lui, il fait 00 33 6..., enfin ton numéro de portable qui commence par 06 devient 00 33 6...
Depuis l'Italie, lui, il fait 00 33 6..., enfin ton numéro de portable qui commence par 06 devient 00 33 6...
Mathilde
OK Mathilde,
C'est juste que comme je serai en Italie je ne pensais pas que pour m'appeler depuis l'Italie, il fallait faire le "33" comme si j'étais en France.
Merci à toi
Patricia
C'est juste que comme je serai en Italie je ne pensais pas que pour m'appeler depuis l'Italie, il fallait faire le "33" comme si j'étais en France.
Merci à toi
Patricia
Si, il lui faut faire le 33, que tu sois à 100 mètres de lui ou à Tokyo !!!
Mathilde
OK Madame, j'ai compris.😉
Ça y est j'crois que j'suis prête à partir 😄
Merci encore mille fois.
Signé: Patricia Débilos
Ça y est j'crois que j'suis prête à partir 😄
Merci encore mille fois.
Signé: Patricia Débilos
+ Faudra peut-être voir sur place à la gare pour des cartes pour les vaporetto si vous envisagez d'en prendre plusieurs car le prix d'un trajet à l'unité est assez cher.
http://www.e-venise.com/transports-venise-vaporetto-actv.htm
http://www.e-venise.com/transports-venise-vaporetto-actv.htm
Mathilde
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I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)







