Bonjour à tous,
Avec 1 ami, nous partons 4 semaines en Thaïlande, de mi-juillet à mi-aout.
Ce que nous recherchons: sentiers battus, nature, baroude, paysages, rencontres, saveurs...
Ce que nous ne recherchons pas: "attrapes-touristes"
Première question: quand on entend parler de tourisme de masse, qu'en est il ? Rencontre-t-on la foule, style la place San Marco à Venise, avec 50 touristes au m2, ou....est ce du style la baie d'Along, avec beaucoup de touristes, certes, mais répartis sur un vaste espace ?
Quant à l'itinéraire, nous n'avons encore rien décidé, mais j'aimerai néanmoins avoir quelques avis.
Comment répartiriez vous les 4 semaines ? J'ai lu beaucoup de sujets sur la Thaïlande et à première vue, le "découpage" le plus approprié pour ce qu'on recherche serait: 2 semaines dans le Nord, 1 semaine au Centre, 1 semaine au Sud. Qu'en dites vous?
NORD:
En 2 semaines, a t-on le temps de parcourir le Nord Ouest et le Nord Est en 125cm3 ?
Comment sont les routes ? Ayant fait plus de 1000km dans les montagnes Nord Vietnam, peut on comparer ces 2 régions ? 50% routes en bitume 50% chemins de terre ?
Quel itinéraire conseilleriez vous pour barouder en bécane dans ces 2 régions? Pour un tel périple, est il préférable de louer à Bangkok ( à peu près au centre) ? Si oui, est il aisé de sortir de Bangkok ?
Trouvez vous dommage de ne circuler qu'en bécane dans ces régions là? Réserveriez vous une part pour le train ou le bus ?
Autre chose concernant le Nord Thaïlande: le temps est il "changeant" comme dans le Nord Vietnam ? Au Vietnam, on circule en T-shirt sans problème, puis soudain ça se couvre et on regrette presque de ne pas avoir une seconde couche ! Est-ce similaire dans les montagnes Thaïlandaises ?
SUD:
Ça, ce sera plus pour "souffler". J'ai lu pas mal de trucs sur cette région, et il semble que les avis divergent beaucoup. J'ai le sentiment que Ko Phi Phi sort quand même du lot. Est ce votre avis ? Est ce une destination suffisamment "reposante" malgré l'afflux touristique ? Pour le reste, je pense que ce sera surtout de l'improvisation
CENTRE:
Je pense à Bangkok et ses environs. Pour Bangkok, j'ai suffisamment d'éléments. Mais que conseillez vous de faire aux alentours de Bangkok ?
Pour le sud, perso, j'ai bien aimé Koh Lanta et sa petite mais charmante voisine Koh Jum.
Koh Phi-Phi peut-être très belle à certains endroits mais, c'est là que je me suis sentie le plus à l'étroit...Il faut vraiment marcher loin pour quitter le "trop" de monde.Mais n'empêche, je ne regrette pas de l'avoir vue mais ce n'est pas là que l'on se ressource...
La première photo, c'est Koh Lanta.
La deuxième, c'est Koh Phi-Phi!
La troisième, c'est koh Jum!
Et mon avatar, c'est aussi Koh Phi-Phi
C'était en pleine saison!!!(février) et comme vous pouvez le constater, il n'y a pas de foule!!
Désolée mais nos baroudeur partent en juillet-août... les iles que tu proposes sont plutot à éviter à cette période...
Les iles les plus sûres niveau temps à cette période sont celles du Golfe (Tao, panghan et samui en ordre de préférence)...
ceci dit tu as raison les iles de l'extreme sud sont super mais malheureusement en été c'est risqué au niveau de la température. Ce serait dommage d'aller en bécane si loin pour avoir du mauvais temps.....
Tu me diras qu'on ne sait jamais avec le temps et je suis d'accord mais statistiquement le golfe est plus sûr...
Ton christ est juif, ta pizza est italienne, ton café est brésilien, ta voiture est japonaise, ton écriture est latine, tes vacances sont turques, tes chiffres sont arabes et... tu reproches à ton voisin d'être étranger !
Désolée mais nos baroudeur partent en juillet-août... les iles que tu proposes sont plutot à éviter à cette période...
C'est à dire ? Grosses pluies ? Grosse chaleur ?
Pluies...
Fais une recherche sur ce site et tu verras qu'en juillet aout la température est meilleure sur Tao, Panghan et Samui... d'ailleurs à Phuket par exemple beaucoup d'hotel sont fermé alors que sur Tao les prix sont plus élevé.... la mauvaise saison pour Tao est octobre à décembre...
Ton christ est juif, ta pizza est italienne, ton café est brésilien, ta voiture est japonaise, ton écriture est latine, tes vacances sont turques, tes chiffres sont arabes et... tu reproches à ton voisin d'être étranger !
Désolée mais nos baroudeur partent en juillet-août... les iles que tu proposes sont plutot à éviter à cette période...
C'est à dire ? Grosses pluies ? Grosse chaleur ?
Pluies...
Ok merci. Et connais tu le Nord ? Si oui, peux tu répondre à mes interrogations ?
Non je ne connais pas super bien le nord et n'ai jamais voyagé en moto ayant 4 enfants. Par contre je peux te dire que la route n'est pas trop mauvaise pour aller à Pai par exemple...
Si vous êtes un peu aventureux, c'est pas mal du tout là bas et vous pouvez poussez jusqu'à mae hong son... Si vous voulez faire une descente de rafting sur la rivière Pai ou une autre excursion je vous conseille sans autre Guy Gorias, français habitant à Pai depuis 23 ans et fut le premier à proposer le rafting en Thailande. Coté sécurité il est au top. Consultes son site www.thairafting.com
Je pense que d'autres te donneront de meilleures info.... moi j'ai pas encore fait tout le nord. Par contre à Chiang Mai j'avais dormi au Top North Guest House qui n'est pas cher et avec piscine. (A ne pas confondre avec Top North hotel qui fait parti du même groupe)
Ton christ est juif, ta pizza est italienne, ton café est brésilien, ta voiture est japonaise, ton écriture est latine, tes vacances sont turques, tes chiffres sont arabes et... tu reproches à ton voisin d'être étranger !
ah oui tout a fait d'accord avec le membre qui met en garde sur la destination surtout pour les iles de la mer adaman
koh phi phi en juillet - août peut être la cata... et vacances gâchées car parfois on ne peut même pas sortir en mer
il vaut mieux choisir les iles de samui - koh phan gan - koh tao
koh phi phi n'est plus ce que c'était depuis le tsunami surtout du côté où l'on arrive tonsai beach où c'est un terrain vague en travaux et ou flotte encore le souvenir des 1200 morts qu'à eu cette ile autrefois magique....
mais si vous voulez la voir dans de bonnes conditions et bien prévoyez un autre voyage à la bonne période de décembre à mars... idéal si le climat n'est pas chamboulé...
CENTRE:
Je pense à Bangkok et ses environs. Pour Bangkok, j'ai suffisamment d'éléments. Mais que conseillez vous de faire aux alentours de Bangkok ?
nakhon pahon .. c'est pas mal .....😉
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Asie du Sud-Est › Thaïlande / Malaisie · 12 replies
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Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling.
For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees?
We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo.
Thanks for your tips and help!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees.
Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan.
Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island.
Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai?
Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai.
My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok:
No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna:
From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄).
Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM.
Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau:
Found this via AI—is it legit?
No online booking, as far as I can tell.
Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly????
And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning
March 24: Phnom Penh
March 25: Phnom Penh
March 26: Depart for Kampot
March 27: Kampot
March 28: Depart for Battambang
March 29: Battambang
March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap
March 31: Siem Reap
April 1: Siem Reap
April 2: Siem Reap
April 3: Siem Reap
April 4: Siem Reap
April 5: Departure
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta.
21/09: Borobudur
22/09: Prambanan
23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang)
24/09: Bromo
25/09: Kawa Ijen
26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran
27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran
28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk
29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud
02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo
05/10: Komodo cruise
06/10: Komodo cruise
07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo.
08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar
09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore
10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
