Je prépare un voyage de 4 semaines en Namibie essentiellement, durant le mois d'octobre 2007 (j'espère ne pas m'y prendre trop tard...). Malgré le fait que nous aimerions principalement voyager à travers la Namibie (Etosha, Skeleton Coast, Sossusvlei, ...) et ce à l'aide d'un 4x4 avec tente (loué à Windhoek), nous désirerions si possible, ma petite amie et moi même visiter les chutes Victoria, ainsi que le Delta de l'Okavango et la Moremi Game Reserve si possible.
1) Pensez-vous que cela soit réalisable en 4 semaines?
2) Quel serait le meilleur itinéraire pour allier tout cela ? Pensez vous qu'il soit plus malin de ne louer le 4x4 qu'en Namibie puis de prendre un bus pour le Botswana et se débrouiller dans ce pays autrement qu'en 4x4? Ou bien pensez vous qu'un boucle Namibie-Botswana-Namibie soit faisable dans les temps impartis?
J'ai vraiment envie de découvrir le plus possible mais je suis aussi conscient que passer toutes ses journées à ne faire que rouler et se fatiguer risque d'être pire que bien...
Nous avons fait la namibie et le botswana en juillet dernier en 1 mois.Regarde via le profil notre carnet de route "au pays des himbas" cela te donnera une idée de ce que nous avons eu le temps de faire.
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PAUL BOWLES : « Un Thé au Sahara »
Merci pour ta réponse rapide! J'ai donc consulté ton carnet de voyage (super d'ailleurs! ça me donne envie d'y être au plus vite!). Plusieurs questions me viennent à l'esprit:
1) pq avez décidé de louer le camping car en Afrique du Sud? Etait-ce par souci d'économie (avion? camping car?) ou pcq vous vouliez vraiment y passer? N'était-il pas plus intéressant de commencer a Windhoek?
2) Aviez vous réservé tous les campings avant le voyage?
3) Peut-on dormir avec un 4x4 n'importe où (hormis dans les parcs)?
4) Pensez-vous que vous avez passé trop de temps à rouler? En somme, ce serait à refaire, l'auriez vous fait de la même manière?
Je te comprends c'est vraiment un pays magnifique!
D'afrique du sud car l'avion et le camping car était moins cher.Cela evitait aussi un aller et retour sur la bande de caprivi
Tout était reservé en anmibie et botswana mais pas en AF
Dormir n'importe ou :non je ne le pense pas;je pense qu'il doit etre dangereux de se mettre sur le bord d'une route ( pas de danger de la population mais animaux et autre vehicule)
Oh que oui nous referions le méme mais avec le kalahari en plus!Les paysages sont magnifiques on ne s'ennuie jamais.
N'hesites pas pour plus !
il lui suffisait de voir une carte pour se mettre à l'étudier avec passion, puis, invariablement, il commençait à projeter quelque nouveau voyage impossible, qui, parfois, se transformait en réalité. »
PAUL BOWLES : « Un Thé au Sahara »
Concernant la bande de Caprivi, tu voulais l'éviter pour des raisons de sécurité? Pcq si j'ai bien compris il n'y a plus trop de prob de ce point de vue là?
Par contre j'aimerais ne pas hésiter pour plus mais je tire déjà pour avoir 4 semaines...
Non, non je ne voulais pas eviter la bande de caprivi au contraire ce ne fut que du bonheur!
Je voulais faire une boucle et non faire windhoeck caprivi et retour sur la méme route.
il lui suffisait de voir une carte pour se mettre à l'étudier avec passion, puis, invariablement, il commençait à projeter quelque nouveau voyage impossible, qui, parfois, se transformait en réalité. »
PAUL BOWLES : « Un Thé au Sahara »
Hé bé c'est du service rapide ici! Merci encore 😉!
Pour ma part, je me demande si cela vaudrait la peine (et surtout prendrait un peu moins de temps que ton séjour puisque je ne dispose pas d'autant de jours) de partir de Windhoek vers Maun en passant par ce qu'il y a à voir mais le plus vite possible. De là visiter le delta et Moremi Game Reserve et/ou Chobe. Puis Vic Falls. Puis retour en Namibie par la bande de Caprivi vers Etosha. Ensuite redescendre la cote jusqu'à Sossusvlei (en faisant un peu les même étapes que toi) puis remonter vers WIndhoek. Ca semble possible? Ou pas vraiment plus court que ton séjour? Ou encore peut être vais je manquer des choses incontournables?...
je trouve trés bien.
Nous n'avons pas pu faire chobe car nous étions avec un CCar
il lui suffisait de voir une carte pour se mettre à l'étudier avec passion, puis, invariablement, il commençait à projeter quelque nouveau voyage impossible, qui, parfois, se transformait en réalité. »
PAUL BOWLES : « Un Thé au Sahara »
Ok donc à priori je suis pas dans le mauvais. Mais je n'ai pas très bien compris, tu ne fais pas Moremi mais bien Chobe et les chutes c'est ça? Tu as déjà tout réservé? Je ne m'y prends pas trop tard?
Oui, j'ai déjà réservé, c'est un gros problème la réservation, fais-le dès que tu peux! Nous restons 3 nuits à Chobe, et nous prenons notre temps pour arriver par la bande de Caprivi. Ta priorité va être effectivement de réserver les nuits au Botswana car tu ne peux pas rentrer dans les parcs si tu n'as pas réservé avant. D'après ce qu'on m'a dit tu peux t'arranger sur place au cas où, mais c'est très aléatoire, il faut qu'il y ait eu un désistement ou quelqu'un qui accepte de partager sa place avec toi.
Ensuite, il faut que tu t'occupes de réserver à Etosha, car ça n'est pas gagné non plus. Cependant, tu peux quand même rentrer à Etosha sans réservation et tu peux peut-être espérer trouver une place (je crois que Vinnylove n'avait pas réservé et a pu y dormir quand même!
Essayez www.afrotrek.com, 2 jours, 1 nuit a moremi et bon marché, est la meme compagnie du Sedia hotel a
Maún, j´ai dejá la reservation par l aÔut.
A kasane, par chobe, www.janalasafaris.com
A gweta, le planet baoba, je crois est jolie, par le Nxai Pan et baines baobab, www.uncharterdafrique.com
A bientôt
Bonjour,
Je suis cette discution de près que je pars aussi au Botswana et en Namibie cet été... en juillet
Simple question...
Quand vous parlez de réserver à l'avance, est ce que vous parlez des camssite des national parks, ou ezst ce que vous prenez en compte aussi les camps iste privés... J'imagine que c'est beaucoup plus cher (c'étais le cas au Zimbabwe), mais faut il aussi réserver les camp site privés pour être sur d'avoir de la place...
Tiens une uatre question me vient... Dans le cas où l'on ne puisse pas trouver de place dans un pak Chobe en particulier, croyez vous qu'il soit possible de dormir à l'extérieur du park et vbaouder la journée à l'intérieur...
Y a til plusieurs entrées pour le Chobe???
Bonjour, oui je parle des campsite des parcs nationaux, je ne me suis pas renseignée pour le reste, car je sais que c'est très cher. Dormir à l'exterieur, ça se fait surement (par exemple à Kasane), mais je ne sais pas non plus si c'est viable pour tout le parc, mais d'autres vont surement répondre à ça!
Mon voyage se précise (en 4x4 avec tente sur le toit). J'aimerais soumettre mon itinéraire à la critique! Pourriez vous me dire ce que vous en pensez, si c'est trop ambitieux ou alors si je loupe des endroits immanquables? Merci à vous pour vos conseils!
J+1: Départ BXL
J+2 Arrivée Windhoek
J+3: Départ pour D'kar. Visite.
J+4 : Départ Maun. Mokoro
J+5: départ Moremi. Visite
J+6 : Visite Moremi
J+7: Départ Savuti. Visite
J+8. VIsite Chobe Riverfront
J+9. Visite Victoria Falls.
J+10 : Départ pour Mudumu Game Reserve et Camp Kwando
J+11: Visite Lizauli.
J+12: Visite Popa Falls + Mahango Game Reserve
J+13: Route vers Grootfontein
J+14: Départ pour Etosha
J+15: Etosha
J+16: Etosha matin. Départ pour Opuwo
J+17 Route vers Epupa Falls + visite
J+18 : Visite Himbas + Kaokoveld
J+19: Départ Sesfontein, Warmquelle
J+20: Départ pour Palmwag
J+21: Départ pour Cape Cross+ visite
J+22: Départ pour Swaokopund et Walvis Bay
J+23: Départ pour Sessriem Canyon et Sossusvlei
J+24: Visite Sossusvlei
J+25: battement
J+26: fin de journée: retour vers Windhoek
J+27: Retour Belgique
Voilà!!! Comme vous avez pu le remarquer, le J+25 est vide pour permettre, selon vos conseils un peu de souplesses, tout comme la matinée du j+26!
Je crois qu'il ne faut pas non plus sous-estimer le temps que l'on peut passer sur des routes qui ne sont pas forcément de très bonne qualité (pas forcément goudronnées non plus), ni la chaleur qui incite à faire des haltes fréquentes, ni les menues surprises que peuvent réserver le Botswana ou la Namibie (fermeture imprévue d'un site ou d'une route, ...). Ne pas oublier de prendre de faire le plein dès que tu croises une station essence (surtout dans le delta et en dehors des grandes villes). Et toujours avoir un stock d'eau minérale en abondance dans ton véhicule.
Et je crois qu'il faut vraiment réserver les nuits autant que possible avant de partir. Parce que dormir en camping-car sur le bord d'une route n'est pas forcément conseillé partout : je me souviens en octobre dernier qu'un soir notre chauffeur est soudain monté sur le frein pour piler devant un troupeau d'éléphants qui traversaient quelques mètres devant nous... Et je ne suis pas sûre qu'on puisse faire du camping partout dans le delta (dans des conditions de sécurité satisfaisantes, par rapport aux animaux)...
salut Alexis,
programme très ambitieux en effet. un peu trop dense pour tout faire correctement je pense.
quelques remarques :
1 jour pour faire Etosha ! trop court
heureusement tu as 2 jours de battement
attention également aux temps de parcours surtout dans moremi et savuti
pas de camping sauvage dans ces parcs (moremi et chobe) mais aux campsites que tu dois impérativement réserver et longtemps à l'avance
tu peux également gagner du temps sur ta fin de parcours en arrivant dans l'après midi à sesriem tu peux visiter le canyon et le lendemain matin sossuvlei (la matinée est suffisante)
et dommage de ne pas faire twyfelfontein et le brandberg ...
à quelle période comptes tu y aller ? car il faut aussi prendre en compte la saisonalité aussi (durée du jour, routes plus difficiles en saison des pluies etc...)
bon courage dans les prépas
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Je compte bien réserver dès que possible pour les campsites et c'est justement pour ca que je fixe un peu mon itinéraire. Je pars durant tout le mois d'octobre. A votre avis, quelles étapes dois-je faire sauter pour ne pas trop courir? c'est trop dur de choisir....
Donc je rajouterais un jour de visite à Etosha (grâce à mon jour de battement). Concernant Moremi et Chobe, c'est pas un peu court? Vaut-il mieux laisser tomber un des deux? Ou encore laisser tomber les Chutes Victoria?...
Excusez moi de scinder mes messages en plusieurs parties.... Mais je me demandais s'il était possible de faire la route de Victoria Falls (ou Katima Mulilo si je prends un peu de route après les Victoria Falls après les avoir visité) à la Mahango Game Reserve en 1 journée, en s'arrêtant assez souvent histoire de profiter un minimum (ou maximum...) de cette r��gion!
ce serait quand même dommage de ne pas faire les chutes victoria en étant tout à côté...
effectivement moremi et chobe mériteraient un peu plus de temps, à choisir je zapperai Mudumu, d'ailleurs tous ces parcs risquent de faire redondance un peu non ?
tu peux aussi zapper Cape Cross qui ne méritent pas un si grand détour et la perte d'une journée mais ça c'est perso 😉
pareil pour swakop et walvis si tu n'as pas prévu d'activité (sortie en mer ou sandwich harbour) ça ne présente guère d'intérêt
à plus
Merci! Je cogite tout ça et je vais voir! Je pense effectivement insister plus sur les parc de Moremi et Chobe. Laisser tomber Mudumu (qui apparemment n'est pas super. Mais ca faisait une étape). Je garde les chutes. Je pense par contre que je vais effectivement modifier un peu mon trajet sur la côte. Mais le plus important c'est de fixer le Botswana je crois (et Etosha) pour les réservations! Merci pour tes conseils!
Bonjour, Alexis ! 🙂
Ns étions en Namibie en septembre 2006 et avons logé au Kwando mais si tu fais le Botswana tu peux supprimer le Mudumu ainsi que les Popas falls qui ressemblent à de mini cascades en cette période ! 😛
Par contre la réserve Mahango est jolie et riche en animaux.
Si tu veux loger ds le coin, ns avions été au Ndovu lodge, TB, à 2 km de la réserve, mais je ne me souviens plus s'il y avait une partie camping. Pas loin de là ( plus près de Rundu, ns avions logé au Nwazi lodge TB aussi et il dispose d'un espace camping.
La route Kasane - Rundu est excellente, on y rencontre pas mal d'animaux et des troupeaux d'éléphants...mais, il faut être très attentif (comme partout, d'ailleurs) car il y a bcp de monde à certains endroits !
Tu fais bien de prendre un J en + pour Etosha car ce parc est tellement grand, avec une telle variété d'animaux et de paysages! Un conseil : réserve au plus tôt et srttt relance ta réservation tant que celle-ci n'est pas ferme !
Personnellemt c'est le camp d'Okakuejo qui ns avait le mieux plu .
Si à la place de Cape Cross, tu vas -> Walvis Bay, ne rate pas l'excursion mer & dunes( MolaMola) tu y verras de grdes colonies d'otaries, des dauphins, des flamants- une excursion très chouette, avec un buffet délicieux en bord de mer; de plus, à Walvis B, se trouve un resto au bord de l'eau, sur pilotis ( le Raft) où l'on sert des calamars, des coquilles st J, du poisson : mm, à se mettre à genoux !
Bons préparatifs, Alexis et @ + si tu veux. 😉
absolument AUCUN problème cette route...seulement tenir compte que la frontière nam/bot fermait à 16h....en automne 2005😉 et la frontière bot/zim à 18h.
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=367854; voir du 27 au 31 octobre.
claudine
la vitesse de la lumiere etant superieure a celle du son, il n'est donc pas anormal que beaucoup de gens paraissent brillants jusqu'a ce qu'ils parlent....
bONJOUR?
Comptez vous aller dans le kalahari central? Nous comptons nous y rendre mais j'avoue que je ne suis pas très sûr d'y aller avec qu'un seul véhicule, et je tente de trouver un groupe pour nous accompagner... Nous pensons y être vers la fin juillet, ou vers le 9 juillet, tout dépens si nousarrvons à changer nos reservations...
D'ailleurs j'ai finalement réussi à réserver es national parks au Botswana, Moremi, Chobe...
Grégoire
Ps j'ai envoyé ce message par erreur à alexcrows, désolé...
bonjour alexis
nous partons mi-septembre a fin novembre 07 sur les memes base que en namibie mais allons approfondir d'avantage le botswana car avons un peu parcourus en l'an dernier mais en stop donc retournons a chobe moreni en individuel 4*4 comme vous .
un conseil pour l'avoir fait l'an dernier meme saison et le refaire en solo
maunn 1 pour faire le plein course eau gazoil etc, moremi 2 nuit ( premier jour route 6 heure pour arrive a south gate camping, 1 journnée complete pour faire une petite partis) savuti 3 nuit( une journée pour north gate moremi to savuti camp 10 h de route, et conseillons de restée deux jours plein a savuit, l'an passée une jourenee pleine trop courte) chobe ou kasane direct 1 nuit( 3 ou 4 heure de routepour chobe le plus interressant c'est les bord du zambez a partir de 15 h 30 bain des elephants par centaines superbe magique ) kasane 1 nuit puis retour par caprivi strip
en attente d'infos sur les reservations parc derniere minute namibie et magdakadipadi
a+ alexis et peut etre a l'automne
Merci pour les conseils. ceci dit, j'ai déjà réservé quelques campings pour les parcs.. Pourriez-vous me dire s'il est totalement débile (point de vue temps, aurai-je le temps de "visiter" à mon aise sans rouler tout le tps?) de réaliser le trajet suivant :
Jour 1: Maun. Mokoro. Route pour SouthGate. Nuit à Xakanaxa
Jour 2: Visite Xakanaxa. Nuit à Xakanaxa
Jour 3: Visite et route vers North Gate. Nuit à North Gate
Jour 4: Fin visite et route vers Savuti Campsite. Nuit à Savuti. (10h de route vous dites? à son aise?...)
Jour 5: Visite Savuti vers Ihaha. Nuit à Ihaha
Jour 6: Visite Chobe Riverfront. Nuit à Kasane.
Si l'on me dit que c'est débile, je devrai alors chosir entre Chobe et Moremi... pcq mes jours avant et après sont bloqués...
re bonjour suit
a maun compte tu le faire avec une agence si tu stop au camping audi camp tu peux l'organiser avec eux sans probleme en arrivant la veille,
par contre ta journée maun mokoro south gate et xabanaxa, cela va etre chaud en conduite a 17h30 en octobre il fait nuit, c'est vari que la premiere partis de route 50km en goudron le reste en gravel mais south gate xabanaxa compter deux bonne heure sans arret photos .
le jour de ton depart de moremi a savuti depart tres tot vers 5h30 du mat me dit ma femme imperatifs.
pour ta resa de camping as tu de la flexibilité dans les dates si au cas tu arriverai avec un ou deux jours de retards, peut tu quand meme utiliser ta resa ?
a+ fred je suis disponible de suite si tu le vexu au 05 62 99 67 21
fred
salut Alexis
je viens juste d'avoir une réponse pour les mokoro trip d'un jour au départ de Maun. en fait il faut déjà faire 1h30 de 4x4 pour se rendre à l'embarcadère et revenir bien sur après la balade. en fait il faut compter 8 heures en tout donc ta journée 1 me semble bien compromise sachant qu'il faut au moins 5 h pour rejoindre xakanaxa et qu'il fait nuit à 17h30 !!!
compte tenu du peu de temps dont tu disposes je zapperai moremi pour me consacrer plus à fond à savuti et chobe river front, tout en gardant la journée mokoro dans le delta
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Je me doutais bien que cette journée était mal plannifiée...mais je dois avouer que c'est un choix difficile de sacrifier moremi... Donc si je fais une journée mokoro dans le delta puis que je vais direct sur Savuti/Chobe, je ne vais pas trop louper de choses à Moremi? C'est vrai qu'il vaut peut être mieux être relax et voir les choses en profondeur plutôt que de vouloir survoler..
Bonjour,
4 semaines, c'est bien pour Namibie + Botswana. Tu évites le Fish River Canyon et tu prévilégies les Himbas au nord. Tu rentres au Botswana par Popa Falls NO Botswana, tu descends à Maun, un tour en avion et ou en pirogue et tu remontes vers Moremi, chobe, Kasane et Victoria Falls. Tu prends ta Voiture à Windhoek et tu la laisses à Victoria Falls. Il faut des réservations à Etosha et Moremi, Chobe...
A +
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I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations.
Thanks for any feedback on this plan!
Ailleurs 64
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work.
I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts.
So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza
Ngenda
Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi
Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas)
Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions:
-Is French still widely spoken?
-Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info?
-Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back?
-Is it possible to go hiking solo?
-Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share.
Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind.
I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south:
14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie
17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza
20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara
22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants
25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere.
28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel.
29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance!
Nicole
Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers.
We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering:
Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later)
Pretoria – 2 days
Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day
Acornhoek – 1 day
Letaba – 2 days
Lobamba – 2 days
Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days
Cape of Good Hope – 1 day
Stellenbosch – 1 day
Hermanus – 1 day
Mossel Bay – 2 days
Oudtshoorn
Wilderness – 2 days
Knysna
Port Elizabeth – 2 days
Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions.
We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!