Merci de vos conseils
Itinéraire peu touristique en Chine
by Adram13
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour. Nous sommes actuellement en voyage autour du monde, et nous en sommes à la Chine. Nous n'avions pas prévu d'itinéraire particulier, nous sommes arrivés par Kashgar et avons suivi les conseils du lonely planet ce qui nous a ammené à Zhangye dans le Gansu. Le petit problème, c'est que les sites conseillés par le lonely sont pour le moment assez touristiques et un peu trop cher pour notre budget. Nous cherchons donc des idées d'itinéraires moins touristiques (nature, villages etc...), sachant que nous devons être à Pekin dans un moi. Je me debrouille un peu en Mandarin, on a une tente et pas peur d'être perdu dans des coins reculés:)...
Merci de vos conseils
Merci de vos conseils
Zhangye touristique? Je n'y ai vu aucun occidentaux lors de ma visite cette année.
C'est actuellement les grandes vacances en Chine. Prévoyez beaucoup de monde (touristes chinois) partout.
La pire période pour être en Chine.
Bonjour,
Une idée : le plateau tibétain (de Xining a Yushu/Jyekundo). Cette traversée de 800kms
est magnifique avec 2 superbes lacs à mi-chemin à Madoi.
Avant, à côté de Xining vous avez le monstère de Labrang et aussi Rebkong.
De Yushu vous pouvez aller vers Serxu, Manigango, Dege, Katok, Ltang, Tagong.
C'est le dépaysement garanti, pas de touriste ou très très peu.
Vous serez dans les régions tibétaines de l'Amdo et du Kham, entre 3000 et 4000m.
Les paysages sont époustouflants, les grasslands, les nomades...
Hélas, vous trouverez très peu d'infos sur le lonely ni dans aucun autre guide car ce sont
des régions tibétaines.
Ces 2 régions, se trouvent juste au-dessus du Tibet et sont très authentiques. Pas besoin
de permis spécial, ni d'agence comme pour le Tibet.
Estiu
Cet intinéraire parait très interessant, deux questions cependant:
Combien de temps pense tu qu'il nous failles pour faire Xining - Yushu/Jyekundo puis Yushu/Jyekundo - Chendu, sans avoir à courir?
A quelles températures peut-on s'attendre en octobre dans cette region?
Merci pour ta réponse
Merci pour ta réponse
Si vous avez un mois ça va être vraiment chaud si vous prenez le temps de vous arrêter au milieu de nul part...
Par contre ça peu être intéressant de viser Yushu comme point final puis de là prendre 5 jours pour remonter sur Beijing en mode bus/train non stop (vous ne verrez pas Chengdu mais c'est pas très grave).
Peut être est ce plus intéressant de continuer vers l'est tout en zigzagant à l'intérieur des terres. La région autour de Lanzhou est très belle par exemple, et ce jusque Xi'an. De là ce sera beaucoup moins contraignant pour remonter sur Beijing. Il y aura des touristes dans quelques spots du Lonely (xiahe par exemple) mais comme d'habitude plus personne dès que l'on s'en éloigne.
Peut être est ce plus intéressant de continuer vers l'est tout en zigzagant à l'intérieur des terres. La région autour de Lanzhou est très belle par exemple, et ce jusque Xi'an. De là ce sera beaucoup moins contraignant pour remonter sur Beijing. Il y aura des touristes dans quelques spots du Lonely (xiahe par exemple) mais comme d'habitude plus personne dès que l'on s'en éloigne.
Bonjour,
On revient tout juste d'un séjour dans la partie ouest du Sichuan comme suggéré plus haut, et effectivement je ne peux que vous conseiller cette région!
Nous sommes actuellement dans le Yunnan, et c'est vraiment magnifique également (à Shaxi plus précisément), mais par contre dès aujourd'hui on a vu l'invasion de touriste chinois arrivé, du coup demain on reprend la route... D'ailleurs si quelqu'un a une idée ou nous pourrions nous "cacher" au Yunnan pendant cette folle semaine des vacances chinoises on est preneur... 😎
Si je devais vous conseiller un itinéraire ça serait de partir de Chengdu pour rejoindre Kangding en bus, La ville ne Kangding n'a pas grand intérêt hormis celui d'être un peu un passage obligé lorsqu'on vient de Chengdu... Ensuite partir dans des coins comme Tagong ou ceux cités plus haut! Pour notre part nous avons passé environ 2 semaines dans cette région, et honnêtement ce n'était pas assez à notre goût, mais amplement suffisant pour faire un bon tour sans se presser! Ca n'a fait que nous confirmer que nous y reviendrons plus tard! :)
Pour repartir du Sichuan nous avons décidé de prendre la South tibetan highway, qui rallie Kangding à Shangri-la dans le Yunnan... Alors cette highway a un nom bien trompeur... La route est actuellement en travaux et du coup c'est plus une piste qu'une route... Les 24 heures de bus nécessaires pour rejoindre Shangri-la ne sont VRAIMENT pas de tout repos, mais le paysage en route est à couper le souffle! Vous passerez un col à près de 5000m, juste incroyable!
Shangril-la est une petite ville mignonne ou nous avions trouvé une chouette auberge, mais en soi la ville est assez touristique... Mais non loin se trouve les tiger leaping gorges! Ca aussi un point fort de notre voyage jusqu'à présent! Depuis Lijiang vous pouvez peut-être voir pour trouver un vol pas cher pour Pékin, ou sinon en train ça me parait faisable aussi...
Concernant le climat: il fait bien entendu plus frais qu'à basse altitude, mais cela reste tout à fait agréable! Nous avons fait un trek de 3 jours à plus de 4000m, la journée nous étions en pantalon et t-shirt (ou une chemise légère) par contre le soir cela se rafraichit bien! Pas la peine de prévoir la veste de ski, mais une polaire et une softshell ne sont pas de trop! Par contre prévoyez de prendre de la crème solaire et du baume pour les lèvre! Ca tape sévèrement, et hormis à Kangdin il nous a été impossible d'en trouver... ;)
On revient tout juste d'un séjour dans la partie ouest du Sichuan comme suggéré plus haut, et effectivement je ne peux que vous conseiller cette région!
Nous sommes actuellement dans le Yunnan, et c'est vraiment magnifique également (à Shaxi plus précisément), mais par contre dès aujourd'hui on a vu l'invasion de touriste chinois arrivé, du coup demain on reprend la route... D'ailleurs si quelqu'un a une idée ou nous pourrions nous "cacher" au Yunnan pendant cette folle semaine des vacances chinoises on est preneur... 😎
Si je devais vous conseiller un itinéraire ça serait de partir de Chengdu pour rejoindre Kangding en bus, La ville ne Kangding n'a pas grand intérêt hormis celui d'être un peu un passage obligé lorsqu'on vient de Chengdu... Ensuite partir dans des coins comme Tagong ou ceux cités plus haut! Pour notre part nous avons passé environ 2 semaines dans cette région, et honnêtement ce n'était pas assez à notre goût, mais amplement suffisant pour faire un bon tour sans se presser! Ca n'a fait que nous confirmer que nous y reviendrons plus tard! :)
Pour repartir du Sichuan nous avons décidé de prendre la South tibetan highway, qui rallie Kangding à Shangri-la dans le Yunnan... Alors cette highway a un nom bien trompeur... La route est actuellement en travaux et du coup c'est plus une piste qu'une route... Les 24 heures de bus nécessaires pour rejoindre Shangri-la ne sont VRAIMENT pas de tout repos, mais le paysage en route est à couper le souffle! Vous passerez un col à près de 5000m, juste incroyable!
Shangril-la est une petite ville mignonne ou nous avions trouvé une chouette auberge, mais en soi la ville est assez touristique... Mais non loin se trouve les tiger leaping gorges! Ca aussi un point fort de notre voyage jusqu'à présent! Depuis Lijiang vous pouvez peut-être voir pour trouver un vol pas cher pour Pékin, ou sinon en train ça me parait faisable aussi...
Concernant le climat: il fait bien entendu plus frais qu'à basse altitude, mais cela reste tout à fait agréable! Nous avons fait un trek de 3 jours à plus de 4000m, la journée nous étions en pantalon et t-shirt (ou une chemise légère) par contre le soir cela se rafraichit bien! Pas la peine de prévoir la veste de ski, mais une polaire et une softshell ne sont pas de trop! Par contre prévoyez de prendre de la crème solaire et du baume pour les lèvre! Ca tape sévèrement, et hormis à Kangdin il nous a été impossible d'en trouver... ;)
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Bonjour,
Pour Xining/Yushu vous avez un bus qui relie ces 2 villes en environ 17h. Nous, nous
l'avons fait en transport privé (jeep).
Sinon de Yushu à Chengdu, en 2 semaines vous pouvez faire plusieurs endroits mentionnés.
Vous ne pourrez pas tout voir bien sûr. Mais vous pourrez choisir les endroits et le rythme.
Climat, nous y étions en juillet/août. C'était comme l'écrit Fabienne, de belles journées très
ensoleillées et ça se rafraichit vers 18h quand la nuit tombe.
Estiu
Pfffiou, vos itinéraires sont sympas mais faut pas être allergique ni au bus ni au train, ils doivent remonter sur Beijing après! Déjà le nord sichuan je trouve ça presque trop au sud pour pas trop se presser... Enfin bon, ils sont grands donc ils verront pas eux même! 😏
Nous sommes actuellement dans le Yunnan, et c'est vraiment magnifique également (à Shaxi plus précisément), mais par contre dès aujourd'hui on a vu l'invasion de touriste chinois arrivé, du coup demain on reprend la route... D'ailleurs si quelqu'un a une idée ou nous pourrions nous "cacher" au Yunnan pendant cette folle semaine des vacances chinoises on est preneur... 😎
C'est rigolo, Shaxi on s'y était arrêté pour manger et j'avais vraiment trouvé que le lonely s'enflammait. C'est mignon OK, mais quand même! Comme quoi, il en faut vraiment pour tout le monde! Je ne serai pas un bon auteur pour guides... 😊 Je vous suggère de continuer plus au sud dans la vallée où vous êtes actuellement. C'est vraiment très joli et très sauvage. Par contre il n'y a que des mini bus qui circulent pour vous déplacer, il faudra vous renseigner sur où et comment les prendre. Vous pouvez voir à quoi ça ressemble ici: http://poletarianesuiventlefil.eklablog.com/lijiang-xiaguan-dali-a90736737 Par contre évitez de repiquer sur Dali, va y avoir du monde! Xiaguan sera un peu moins touristique je pense. De là, si vous continuez vers le sud c'est très très joli aussi. Il y a l'itinéraire que nous avons pris (cf autres articles sur mon blog) mais également la route alternative sur lincang que pas mal de monde sur VF a déjà prise.
Après, faut voir où vous vous voulez vous rendre au final...
Nous sommes actuellement dans le Yunnan, et c'est vraiment magnifique également (à Shaxi plus précisément), mais par contre dès aujourd'hui on a vu l'invasion de touriste chinois arrivé, du coup demain on reprend la route... D'ailleurs si quelqu'un a une idée ou nous pourrions nous "cacher" au Yunnan pendant cette folle semaine des vacances chinoises on est preneur... 😎
C'est rigolo, Shaxi on s'y était arrêté pour manger et j'avais vraiment trouvé que le lonely s'enflammait. C'est mignon OK, mais quand même! Comme quoi, il en faut vraiment pour tout le monde! Je ne serai pas un bon auteur pour guides... 😊 Je vous suggère de continuer plus au sud dans la vallée où vous êtes actuellement. C'est vraiment très joli et très sauvage. Par contre il n'y a que des mini bus qui circulent pour vous déplacer, il faudra vous renseigner sur où et comment les prendre. Vous pouvez voir à quoi ça ressemble ici: http://poletarianesuiventlefil.eklablog.com/lijiang-xiaguan-dali-a90736737 Par contre évitez de repiquer sur Dali, va y avoir du monde! Xiaguan sera un peu moins touristique je pense. De là, si vous continuez vers le sud c'est très très joli aussi. Il y a l'itinéraire que nous avons pris (cf autres articles sur mon blog) mais également la route alternative sur lincang que pas mal de monde sur VF a déjà prise.
Après, faut voir où vous vous voulez vous rendre au final...
Merci pour la réponse! finalement, suite à un léger problème de liquidité nous nous sommes retrouvés à Kunming... 🤪
Info qui peut servir pour els futurs voyageurs qui passent par là: Le dernier bancomat qui accepte les cartes étrangères au Sichuan est à Kangding... Nous avions prévu le coup pour le Sichuan, mais n'avions pas anticipé des problèmes similaires au Yunnan... Au Tiger leaping gorges il n'y a pas de possibilités, on nous avait conseillé la ville de Jianchuang (passage obligé pour Shaxi). A notre arrivée là bas impossible de retirer, idem à Shaxi... Il y a bien des ATM mais ils acceptent uniquement les cartes chinoises... Visa Mastercard et Maestro sont inconnus au bataillon... Bref nous avons été forcé de retourner sur Lijiang ou Dali (que nous voulions éviter)... Arrivés à Lijiang, aucun souci pour retirer, par contre la ville était noire de monde et les prix des auberges triplés à cause de la golden week... Bref hier soir on a décidé de ne pas dormir sur place et vu que c'était un peu à la dernière minute nous avons pris un bus couchette pour Kunming où on va attendre qq jours que cette semaine de folie passe... 😉
Pour Shaxi, le village s'est effectivement beaucoup développé en terme de tourisme par rapport à ce qui est dit dans le lonely, mais nous avons trouvé une super jolie petite auberge, et les possibilités de ballades aux alentours du village sont vraiment supers (en louant un vélo ou en partant simplement à pied découvrir les villages voisins). La visite du mont Shibao tout proche était également très sympa!
Mais merci beaucoup pour le lien, je vais jeter un oeil, suivant comment on va peut-être repartir dans cette direction depuis Kunming!
Salutations Fabienne
Pour Shaxi, le village s'est effectivement beaucoup développé en terme de tourisme par rapport à ce qui est dit dans le lonely, mais nous avons trouvé une super jolie petite auberge, et les possibilités de ballades aux alentours du village sont vraiment supers (en louant un vélo ou en partant simplement à pied découvrir les villages voisins). La visite du mont Shibao tout proche était également très sympa!
Mais merci beaucoup pour le lien, je vais jeter un oeil, suivant comment on va peut-être repartir dans cette direction depuis Kunming!
Salutations Fabienne
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Si tu es dans le Gansu à Zhangye en ce moment, pourquoi pas remonter pour visiter l'Ouest de la Mongolie Intérieure ? C'est le meilleur moment pour y aller et c'est magnifique !
Dunes immenses, arbres rougeoyants, lacs, tu es un peu hors de l'itinéraire touristique de base. Il faut un permis il me semble car tu passes à proximité de zones militaires.
La route passe par le corridor de Hexi ou de Yinchuan...
Dans le LP il y a un encart bleu qui en parle, tu trouveras des infos sur internet : http://lvyou.baidu.com/ejinaqi/
Enjoy !
Dunes immenses, arbres rougeoyants, lacs, tu es un peu hors de l'itinéraire touristique de base. Il faut un permis il me semble car tu passes à proximité de zones militaires.
La route passe par le corridor de Hexi ou de Yinchuan...
Dans le LP il y a un encart bleu qui en parle, tu trouveras des infos sur internet : http://lvyou.baidu.com/ejinaqi/
Enjoy !
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Salut!
Ouch tu me poses une colle... On a changé en cours de route (à cause de la fête nationale tout était complet). Le premier où nous étions s'appelait le Tea and Horse House, ils proposent des chambres sans salle de bain très basique pour 2 à 60 yuan (8€) ainsi que des chambre nettement plus jolies avec salle de bain pour 240 yuans.
Le deuxième hôtel se trouve dans les même prix par contre le nom m'échappe... C'était quelque chose comme Hua .... house, il se trouve sur la rue principale du village sur la gauche, il faut trsaverser le mini ruisseau (y a un pont) pour le rejoindre... Mais franchement les auberges sont toutes vraiment bien, c'est tout des belles maisons avec de superbes cours intérieures avec plein de fleurs, fontaines etc... Chaque chambre donne en général sur cette cours. Mais si tu viens en dehors des vacances chinoises le mieux est encore de venir en milieu de journée sans avoir réservé et de te ballader entre les hôtels! Beaucoup ne sont pas sur internet! Et hors vacances tu ne devrais vraiment pas avoir de souci à trouver! Meme pendant la semaine de folie chinoise on a réussi à trouver des chambres en cherchant moins de 20 minutes!
Par contre prends assez de cash, les distributeurs de Shaxi et Jianchuang (ville qui est à côté) n'acceptent pas les cartes étrangères (Visa Mastercard et compagnie...)🤪 Bref on a été forcé de repartir plus tôt que prévu à cause de ce contre-temps de liquidités....
Ouch tu me poses une colle... On a changé en cours de route (à cause de la fête nationale tout était complet). Le premier où nous étions s'appelait le Tea and Horse House, ils proposent des chambres sans salle de bain très basique pour 2 à 60 yuan (8€) ainsi que des chambre nettement plus jolies avec salle de bain pour 240 yuans.
Le deuxième hôtel se trouve dans les même prix par contre le nom m'échappe... C'était quelque chose comme Hua .... house, il se trouve sur la rue principale du village sur la gauche, il faut trsaverser le mini ruisseau (y a un pont) pour le rejoindre... Mais franchement les auberges sont toutes vraiment bien, c'est tout des belles maisons avec de superbes cours intérieures avec plein de fleurs, fontaines etc... Chaque chambre donne en général sur cette cours. Mais si tu viens en dehors des vacances chinoises le mieux est encore de venir en milieu de journée sans avoir réservé et de te ballader entre les hôtels! Beaucoup ne sont pas sur internet! Et hors vacances tu ne devrais vraiment pas avoir de souci à trouver! Meme pendant la semaine de folie chinoise on a réussi à trouver des chambres en cherchant moins de 20 minutes!
Par contre prends assez de cash, les distributeurs de Shaxi et Jianchuang (ville qui est à côté) n'acceptent pas les cartes étrangères (Visa Mastercard et compagnie...)🤪 Bref on a été forcé de repartir plus tôt que prévu à cause de ce contre-temps de liquidités....
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Bonjour,
Sympa cette discussion parce que c'est assez vrai que les sites bien connus sont remplis de monde et gérés comme des parcs d'attraction ! On vous fait payer cher (pour le pays .... comparer par exemple à la Corée du Sud) pour voir une riziere, un village, une pagode et j'en passe. Je suis allé à Xiahé et j'ai en effet bien aimé car moins touristique (enfin mes premiers jours car après vacances Chinoises d'octobre).
Je voudrais continuer cette conversation pour savoir si quelqu'un connait des sites peu touristique donc, dans le Nord Est. Je dois arriver en bateau à Dalian de Corée puis ensuite rejoindre Beijing et ensuite Shanghai (vol retour). J'ai 15 jours environ. Si vous avez des conseils ! Merci Francois
Sympa cette discussion parce que c'est assez vrai que les sites bien connus sont remplis de monde et gérés comme des parcs d'attraction ! On vous fait payer cher (pour le pays .... comparer par exemple à la Corée du Sud) pour voir une riziere, un village, une pagode et j'en passe. Je suis allé à Xiahé et j'ai en effet bien aimé car moins touristique (enfin mes premiers jours car après vacances Chinoises d'octobre).
Je voudrais continuer cette conversation pour savoir si quelqu'un connait des sites peu touristique donc, dans le Nord Est. Je dois arriver en bateau à Dalian de Corée puis ensuite rejoindre Beijing et ensuite Shanghai (vol retour). J'ai 15 jours environ. Si vous avez des conseils ! Merci Francois
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Thanks in advance.
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?
Hi there,
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
I'm planning a 19-day itinerary in Japan this summer.
For a first trip, Kyoto seems like a must. For the rest, I'm torn between:
- Matsumoto, Takayama, Kanazawa for 5 to 6 days
- Kyoto 4 days
- Nara 2 days
- Koyasan 1 day
- Hakone/Mount Fuji 2 to 3 days
- Tokyo 3 days
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Hello,
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
Hi there!
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
Hi everyone who’s reading this!
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi. From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance for your replies! !
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi. From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance for your replies! !
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
Thanks in advance! !
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
Thanks in advance! !
Hello everyone,
I’m reaching out to you because I’m planning our next big trip (Japan is really tempting us for the autumn!) and I have to admit, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed.
My husband and I have always loved traveling, and at 75, we have no intention of stopping... But I find that everything’s getting so complicated. I try to be "modern" by booking online, but as soon as there’s a problem, we hit a wall.
A friend nearly missed her departure last year because of a visa issue that wasn’t explained properly on a website... and no one to call for help, just automated messages.
It makes me a little nervous to be alone in front of a screen so far away, especially since at our age, we like knowing there’s real support if our health takes a turn while we’re there.
Anyway, I’m tired of seeing my file passed from one person to another without ever having the same contact... Do you know of any small, trustworthy agencies or people who still work the "old-fashioned" way and really look after their clients? I love my independence, but I need a real face behind my project.
Thanks in advance for your advice, and I look forward to reading your replies, Catherine
I’m reaching out to you because I’m planning our next big trip (Japan is really tempting us for the autumn!) and I have to admit, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed.
My husband and I have always loved traveling, and at 75, we have no intention of stopping... But I find that everything’s getting so complicated. I try to be "modern" by booking online, but as soon as there’s a problem, we hit a wall.
A friend nearly missed her departure last year because of a visa issue that wasn’t explained properly on a website... and no one to call for help, just automated messages.
It makes me a little nervous to be alone in front of a screen so far away, especially since at our age, we like knowing there’s real support if our health takes a turn while we’re there.
Anyway, I’m tired of seeing my file passed from one person to another without ever having the same contact... Do you know of any small, trustworthy agencies or people who still work the "old-fashioned" way and really look after their clients? I love my independence, but I need a real face behind my project.
Thanks in advance for your advice, and I look forward to reading your replies, Catherine
Hi everyone,
I’m planning our trip to Japan from March 21 to April 11, 2026. We’re planning to travel by plane for long distances (Okinawa) and by train for the rest. I’d like to know if renting a car is easy and, most importantly, if driving with road signs written in Japanese isn’t too complicated. For trains, are there any tips to save money?
Thanks for your advice!
I’m planning our trip to Japan from March 21 to April 11, 2026. We’re planning to travel by plane for long distances (Okinawa) and by train for the rest. I’d like to know if renting a car is easy and, most importantly, if driving with road signs written in Japanese isn’t too complicated. For trains, are there any tips to save money?
Thanks for your advice!
hi everyone, and first of all, I wish you all a happy new year and good health!
This coming October or November, we’re planning our first trip to Japan. The only downside is we’ll only have two weeks off.
For this first visit, I’m thinking of sticking to the Kyoto and Osaka area… saving Tokyo for another trip. Do you think that’s a good choice for a first-time visit?
I’ve put together a little itinerary below to get some feedback from those in the know. I’m only counting the days we’re actually there, not travel days.
Day 1: Kyoto Ginkaku-ji – Philosopher’s Path with stops at a few shrines temples Eikan-dō and Nanzen-ji visit to the Samurai Ninja Museum in the late afternoon
Day 2: Kyoto Fushimi Inari (allow 4 hours for the hike through the park) visit to Sanjūsangen-dō temple Shōseien garden participate in a tea ceremony
Day 3: Kyoto Kiyomizu-dera temple stroll through the historic district up to Kennin-ji temple visit Kennin-ji temple Yasaka-jinja shrine and Gion district in the late afternoon return to the hotel via Pontochō Street
Day 4: Kyoto visit Kinkaku-ji and Nijō Castle visit the Imperial Palace gardens end the day in the shopping streets (Shibkyogoku and Teramachi, among others)
Day 5: Kyoto Arashiyama area Togetsukyo Bridge, walk along the river, visit the Bamboo Forest explore the area up to Otagi Nenbutsu-ji temple
Day 6: Kyoto hike from Kibune to Kurama
Day 7: Kyoto day trip to Nara (full day)
Day 8: stroll around Kyoto before heading to Osaka
Day 9: Osaka Katsuo-ji temple, then head to Minoh Falls and hike back via the Minoh Trail end the day in the Osaka Castle area
Day 10: Osaka Himeji Castle and an afternoon in Osaka
Day 11: Osaka Osaka and return to the airport in the late afternoon for the flight home
Do you think this itinerary is doable? Are some days too relaxed or too packed? I was thinking of adding a trip to Lake Biwa and Uji, but in that case, I’d have to cut some things. Are those places worth dropping some of the planned spots? And if so, which ones would you recommend cutting or shortening?
Thanks in advance—I’m all ears for both positive and negative feedback! stephane
This coming October or November, we’re planning our first trip to Japan. The only downside is we’ll only have two weeks off.
For this first visit, I’m thinking of sticking to the Kyoto and Osaka area… saving Tokyo for another trip. Do you think that’s a good choice for a first-time visit?
I’ve put together a little itinerary below to get some feedback from those in the know. I’m only counting the days we’re actually there, not travel days.
Day 1: Kyoto Ginkaku-ji – Philosopher’s Path with stops at a few shrines temples Eikan-dō and Nanzen-ji visit to the Samurai Ninja Museum in the late afternoon
Day 2: Kyoto Fushimi Inari (allow 4 hours for the hike through the park) visit to Sanjūsangen-dō temple Shōseien garden participate in a tea ceremony
Day 3: Kyoto Kiyomizu-dera temple stroll through the historic district up to Kennin-ji temple visit Kennin-ji temple Yasaka-jinja shrine and Gion district in the late afternoon return to the hotel via Pontochō Street
Day 4: Kyoto visit Kinkaku-ji and Nijō Castle visit the Imperial Palace gardens end the day in the shopping streets (Shibkyogoku and Teramachi, among others)
Day 5: Kyoto Arashiyama area Togetsukyo Bridge, walk along the river, visit the Bamboo Forest explore the area up to Otagi Nenbutsu-ji temple
Day 6: Kyoto hike from Kibune to Kurama
Day 7: Kyoto day trip to Nara (full day)
Day 8: stroll around Kyoto before heading to Osaka
Day 9: Osaka Katsuo-ji temple, then head to Minoh Falls and hike back via the Minoh Trail end the day in the Osaka Castle area
Day 10: Osaka Himeji Castle and an afternoon in Osaka
Day 11: Osaka Osaka and return to the airport in the late afternoon for the flight home
Do you think this itinerary is doable? Are some days too relaxed or too packed? I was thinking of adding a trip to Lake Biwa and Uji, but in that case, I’d have to cut some things. Are those places worth dropping some of the planned spots? And if so, which ones would you recommend cutting or shortening?
Thanks in advance—I’m all ears for both positive and negative feedback! stephane
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Japan in April/May.
I’ll start my journey in Tokyo for 3 to 4 days.
I’d love your advice on accommodation, transportation, an itinerary, and whether a guide would be useful.
I’m traveling solo and could use a little reassurance.
Before I forget... how do payments work?
Thanks for your help, Petra
Thanks for your help, Petra
Hi there,
I’m looking for someone who could help me organize a trip to Japan for my niece and her son. I’ve seen that French-speaking guides are expensive, and the same goes for going through a tour operator.
Airline, local transportation, hotels, etc.
Thanks for your replies!
Betsyl











