Bonjour,
Nous avons réservé une semaine sur Nice et souhaitons aller en italie (sur 1 journée) Que me conseillez vous sans aller trop loin et passer la journée dans la voiture ?
merci
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Une journée en Italie au départ de Nice?
by Béa44
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
bjr
A la sortie de Vintimille (sans intérêt) prendre le "lungomare" à Camporosso mare et marcher jusqu'à la sortie de Bordighera (magnifique promenade sur le bord de mer). (quatre ou cinq kms)
Bordighera - village sur la hauteur - est intéressant. San Remo, pas plus que cela. Arma di Taggia, première plage de sable vers l'est depuis Nice ou presque. Le vieux village d'ARma est plus joli que le bord de mer au sens architectural. Remonter la vallée de l'ARgentera, pays de l'olive "taggiasca".
Nous connaissons bien ce coin car nous nous y fournissons en huile d'olive régulièrement (à Badalucco) et avons marché sur le bord de mer en route à pied vers Rome. Voir site pour photos.
Nos parcours jacquaires et romieux ICI
Bordighera est en bord de mer .... pas sur les hauteurs, elle s'étage en balcon sur la mer, mais le centre proprement dit est en bord de mer et c'est en effet une station facilement accessible de Nice, plaisante pour se promener, trés aérée et beaucoup de plantes et jardins disséminés dans la ville ....
entre Menton et Vintimille il y a également les jardins de Villa Hanbury...
gianluca
à mon avis plutot qu'aller en ligurie pour trouver des paysages semblables à la cote d'azur , sauf qu'ils sont façonnés par une économie diversifiée alors que la cote d'azur c'est le tout tourisme , allez faire un petit tour dépaysant dans le piemont par le col de tende , quittant ainsi l'espace mediterraneen pour une région continentale
La cote ligure est certe charmante, mais ressemble à la cote d'azur en moins urbanisée (ou plutot urbanisée en moins massif). Il y a de charmant villages qui dominent la mer.
Le Piemont voisin est charmant, et si tu veux laisser la voiture au parking, tu peux meme prendre le train pour Cuneo. Et pour le meme prix, tu as un voyage sur une des lignes les plus spectaculaires qui soit. La Nice-Sospel-Breil-Cuneo, pas la Nice-Ventimille-Cuneo. Il y a meme un train direct, et d'autres avec changement à Breil, je conseillerais le direct, mais je ne sais pas les horaires. Et ensuite quelques heures pour flaner a Cuneo, charmante ville du Piemont. Totalement different de la cote d'azur!
Le tout tourisme, cela se voit que vous n'y connaissez rien à la cote d'azur.
En effet, au cas ou vous ne le sauriez pas la cote d'azur est située dans les Alpes Maritimes et ce département est un des moins peuplé de France, sauf en ce qui concerne le littoral bien entendu.
Merci de comprendre avant de vendre vos effets.
En effet, au cas ou vous ne le sauriez pas la cote d'azur est située dans les Alpes Maritimes et ce département est un des moins peuplé de France, sauf en ce qui concerne le littoral bien entendu.
Merci de comprendre avant de vendre vos effets.
les alpes mmes dépâssent le million d'habitants ; pas le temps de calculer , mais ils sont entre la 10e et la 15e place sur sur les 96 départements metropolitains ; la part de l'agriculture et encore plus de l'industrie dans l'économie est ridicule par rapport à la ligurie
Monsieur,
Quel intérêt avez-vous à divulguer trop souvent de fausses informations ou des informations qui n’apportent rien au débat. Ici par exemple vous incriminez un département de France et vous comparez ce même département à la Ligurie qui elle est une région. Devons nous vraiment vous reapprendre le sens de la comparaison et qui plus est de la comparaison objective?
Si vous ne contestez pas qu’un endroit d’Italie soit touristique, pourquoi le contester lorsque cet endroit se trouve dans un autre pays ?
En tant qu’élu et conseiller, nous vous demandons donc de tenir des propos valides et d’éviter toutes dérives et de suivre vos droits et devoir dans les chartes qui s’y prêtent.
Salutations.
Quel intérêt avez-vous à divulguer trop souvent de fausses informations ou des informations qui n’apportent rien au débat. Ici par exemple vous incriminez un département de France et vous comparez ce même département à la Ligurie qui elle est une région. Devons nous vraiment vous reapprendre le sens de la comparaison et qui plus est de la comparaison objective?
Si vous ne contestez pas qu’un endroit d’Italie soit touristique, pourquoi le contester lorsque cet endroit se trouve dans un autre pays ?
En tant qu’élu et conseiller, nous vous demandons donc de tenir des propos valides et d’éviter toutes dérives et de suivre vos droits et devoir dans les chartes qui s’y prêtent.
Salutations.
je ne vois pas ce qu'il y a de desobligeant et de deshonnorant pour le departement concerné à dire que son'economie des alpes maritimes c'est le tout tourisme , c'est ecrit partout ; demandez à n'importe quel parisien de quoi vit-on dans le 06 ; il repondra du tourisme ; moi par contre je suis un économiste , je ne me fie pas à des impressions mais à des données économiques
pour en revenir au sujet , je voulais dire qu'en ligurie on voit de grands complexes industriels , et , meme le long de la route et de l'autoroute cotieres , de l'agriculture , ce qui n'existe pâs dans les alpes maritimes
Pour avoir assez bien voyagé à titre professionnel et dans le cadre d'une étroite collaboration économique entre ces deux espaces limitrophes que sont les Alpes Maritimes (à ne pas confondre ou restreindre avec Nice) et la Ligurie (à ne pas restreindre non plus avec Genova), je peux dire qu'il y a autant de similitudes que de différences.
- Concernant la densité de la population elle est (contrairement à ce que l'on peut penser et parfois lire) plus élevée en Ligurie (298 h/km2) que dans les Alpes Maritimes (249 h/km2). Comme tout un chacun le sait la définition propre et intrinsèque de la densité et bien entendu de tenir compte des variations saisonnières et donc touristiques.
- Il est vrai aussi (comme cité déjà auparavant) que la Ligurie est une région et non un département, et donc en ce quoi elle devrait sur le plan économique ou/et agricole être comparée à la région PACA et non à un unique département (tout en respectant évidemment la proportionnalité). - Concernant l'économie (et en respectant cette même proportionalité, en % donc), il est vrai que celle des AM repose pour beaucoup sur le tourisme (même si ce secteur ne représente que environ 11% de l’emploi salarié). Le tertiaire supérieur et autres services : Avec notamment le secteur des nouvelles technologies (ex :pôle de Sophia-Antipolis), le commerce (hors tourisme, représente 26% du PIB des AM), les activités immobilières, la culture et le spectacle, rien que le domaine de la santé (un des plus reconnu) représente 12% des entreprises et 15% de l’emploi. Il est vrai que le secteur industriel est assez faiblement développé avec 7, 2% des entreprises et 8, 4% des emplois. On est quand même assez loin d’un fameux " tout tourisme "…. Même si on ne peut pas vraiment parler là de tourisme équitable ou tourisme solidaire, responsable, éthique, communautaire, "durable" ou encore d'écotourisme. La ligurie est aussi un endroit touristique basée aussi sur des activités balnéaires en tant que région sous forme de bande côtière, certes le tourisme y est peut-être moins dense, mais encore faut-il en connaitre la raison. Dernier point ; l’agriculture : Il est vrai que dans les AM ce secteur est faible et ne représente que 1, 1% du PIB mais en Ligurie, agricoltura, silvicoltura, pesca pesca (agriculture, sylviculture et la pêche) représente 1, 49% (du PIL ou PIB Français). Donc vos remarques comme " de l'agriculture , ce qui n'existe pâs dans les alpes maritimes » ou encore " la part de l'agriculture et …/… dans l'économie est ridicule par rapport à la ligurie » sont totalement infondées, fausses et donc inappropriées.
Vous vous définissez comme économiste " moi par contre je suis un économiste ", qui pourrait le croire ?
- Concernant la densité de la population elle est (contrairement à ce que l'on peut penser et parfois lire) plus élevée en Ligurie (298 h/km2) que dans les Alpes Maritimes (249 h/km2). Comme tout un chacun le sait la définition propre et intrinsèque de la densité et bien entendu de tenir compte des variations saisonnières et donc touristiques.
- Il est vrai aussi (comme cité déjà auparavant) que la Ligurie est une région et non un département, et donc en ce quoi elle devrait sur le plan économique ou/et agricole être comparée à la région PACA et non à un unique département (tout en respectant évidemment la proportionnalité). - Concernant l'économie (et en respectant cette même proportionalité, en % donc), il est vrai que celle des AM repose pour beaucoup sur le tourisme (même si ce secteur ne représente que environ 11% de l’emploi salarié). Le tertiaire supérieur et autres services : Avec notamment le secteur des nouvelles technologies (ex :pôle de Sophia-Antipolis), le commerce (hors tourisme, représente 26% du PIB des AM), les activités immobilières, la culture et le spectacle, rien que le domaine de la santé (un des plus reconnu) représente 12% des entreprises et 15% de l’emploi. Il est vrai que le secteur industriel est assez faiblement développé avec 7, 2% des entreprises et 8, 4% des emplois. On est quand même assez loin d’un fameux " tout tourisme "…. Même si on ne peut pas vraiment parler là de tourisme équitable ou tourisme solidaire, responsable, éthique, communautaire, "durable" ou encore d'écotourisme. La ligurie est aussi un endroit touristique basée aussi sur des activités balnéaires en tant que région sous forme de bande côtière, certes le tourisme y est peut-être moins dense, mais encore faut-il en connaitre la raison. Dernier point ; l’agriculture : Il est vrai que dans les AM ce secteur est faible et ne représente que 1, 1% du PIB mais en Ligurie, agricoltura, silvicoltura, pesca pesca (agriculture, sylviculture et la pêche) représente 1, 49% (du PIL ou PIB Français). Donc vos remarques comme " de l'agriculture , ce qui n'existe pâs dans les alpes maritimes » ou encore " la part de l'agriculture et …/… dans l'économie est ridicule par rapport à la ligurie » sont totalement infondées, fausses et donc inappropriées.
Vous vous définissez comme économiste " moi par contre je suis un économiste ", qui pourrait le croire ?
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Day 4: Morning trip to TAORMINA, visit the town Day 5: Alcantara Gorge (day trip) + more time in Taormina
Day 6: Trip to SYRACUSE, visit Ortigia Day 7: Ortigia Day 8: NOTO (day trip) (or another Baroque town?) Day 9: Syracuse Archaeological Park + more time in Ortigia (or leave for Enna?)
Day 10: Transport via Enna? TO BE RESOLVED (long, 2 or 3 changes, limited accommodation in Enna...)
Day 11: AGRIGENTO: town and Scala dei Turchi (optional) Day 12: Valley of the Temples + archaeological museum
Day 13: Departure for TRAPANI (4h), afternoon: town (+ salt flats?) Day 14: Segesta (day trip) + town/Erice Day 15: Monte Cofano Nature Reserve (hike + summit) (day trip) Day 16: Zingaro Nature Park (coastal route out, ridge route back) (day trip)
Day 17: Departure for the AEGADIAN ISLANDS: Levanzo and Favignana (bike), overnight if possible Day 18: Egadi Islands
Day 19: Departure for PALERMO + first visits Day 20: The city Day 21: The city (Monreale?) Day 22: Options: - Capo Gallo hike (3.5h round trip) (via Mondello) - Cefalù (45 min by train) Day 23: Return flight
Hello,
We’re heading to Bavaria from May 13 to 23, with a side trip to Austria.
Here’s our itinerary:
Day 1: Brussels-Munich
Day 2: Munich
Day 3: Munich and departure for Salzburg
We’ll be staying three nights in Salzburg.
Then we’ll head to Garmisch-Partenkirchen, where we’ll stay for five nights.
Visiting Munich and Salzburg isn’t too tricky.
Once in Garmisch, we’re planning a day in Innsbruck, a day for Neuschwanstein Castle, and the rest is still up in the air.
What’s really got me stumped is that we’d love to see Königssee Lake—everyone says it’s a must-see.
We’d also like to visit the Eagle’s Nest (Kehlsteinhaus), where the landscapes are supposedly stunning.
This would either be a round trip while we’re in Salzburg or on the way between Salzburg and Garmisch, but I’m guessing it’s impossible to do the drive from Salzburg to Garmisch, the Eagle’s Nest, *and* Königssee Lake all in one day.
Plus, the Alpine route between Salzburg and Garmisch seems prettier than the highway.
But honestly, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with the planning.
We should’ve added a stop between Salzburg and Garmisch, but the hotels are already booked.
Thanks for any advice on the itinerary and visits!
Another question: How far in advance should we book Neuschwanstein, Königssee, and the Eagle’s Nest in May?
Thanks so much in advance for your tips and ideas!
hi
I’ll be in Copenhagen this coming May for a few days.
Do you have any recommendations for things to visit?
If I had to pick one castle to visit, which one would it be?
I’m torn between: Rosenborg Castle, Amalienborg Palace, or Frederiksborg and Charlottenborg Palaces
Any suggestions?
Thanks
I’ll be in Copenhagen this coming May for a few days.
Do you have any recommendations for things to visit?
If I had to pick one castle to visit, which one would it be?
I’m torn between: Rosenborg Castle, Amalienborg Palace, or Frederiksborg and Charlottenborg Palaces
Any suggestions?
Thanks
hi
I’m wondering if anyone can give me some info on how to get from Mallorca to Menorca.
Since flights are cheaper to Mallorca, I’d like to go that way.
Thanks so much for your help!
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Finland and Norway this summer, starting in Oulu to explore Lapland, heading up to the North Cape, and then making our way down to Bergen.
This route means renting a car in Finland and dropping it off in Norway. My initial searches are showing rental rates that are... astronomical—about three times the price compared to returning it at the starting point.
I’m guessing I’m not the only one wanting to visit both countries. Are there any great tips to drastically reduce the cost of renting a car?
Thanks to the community for your suggestions!
We’re planning a trip to Finland and Norway this summer, starting in Oulu to explore Lapland, heading up to the North Cape, and then making our way down to Bergen.
This route means renting a car in Finland and dropping it off in Norway. My initial searches are showing rental rates that are... astronomical—about three times the price compared to returning it at the starting point.
I’m guessing I’m not the only one wanting to visit both countries. Are there any great tips to drastically reduce the cost of renting a car?
Thanks to the community for your suggestions!
Hi there, we’re a couple of bikers planning a trip to Majorca in June 2026, and I’d love to organize a half-day or full-day boat or catamaran outing. Which coast do you think is the nicest for this, and do you have any suggestions or personal experiences to share? Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’ll be staying in London for 3 nights in September.
Could you recommend a hotel near a tube station, at a good price, with fairly spacious rooms?
Thanks! 🌸
We’ll be staying in London for 3 nights in September.
Could you recommend a hotel near a tube station, at a good price, with fairly spacious rooms?
Thanks! 🌸
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there are any works in progress at Torcello, and if so, what type of works and how long they’re expected to last?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’m sharing my draft itinerary with you because I just booked our flight tickets, and I feel like it’s quite late in the season. So, I’d like to be sure about my stops before reserving the hotels. I’ll be traveling alone with my two adult children. We want to prioritize outdoor walks, avoid too many indoor visits (both for budget and preference), and not spend too much time on the road.
D1: Arrival at 9 AM in Malaga, day in Malaga and overnight stay D2: Head straight to Nerja (1-hour drive) and spend the night there D3: Head straight to Granada (1.5-hour drive), spend the day and night there D4: Granada. Visit the Alhambra (Nasrid Palaces tour at 5 PM) and spend the night D5: Head to Ronda (2.5-hour drive) and spend the night D6: White Villages and overnight in Ronda D7: Head straight to the Costa del Sol (e.g., Estepona), spend the day and night there D8: Return to Malaga to catch our flight
There you go! This itinerary takes into account that we’d like to do a circuit starting from Seville in a few years. That said, it’d be a shame to miss something doable from Malaga.
Questions: Since the Alhambra visit is only at 5 PM, and we’d already have the day to explore Granada, would arriving the day before be a mistake? Or should we skip this day and dedicate it elsewhere (Costa del Sol? Head toward Tabernas?)? The old town appeals to me, but maybe the Sacromonte neighborhood isn’t essential... Same question for Ronda: should we dedicate a full day to it, or combine Ronda and the White Villages in one day? Note that we love wandering around villages outside, so that might answer my question! :)
Final question: Is it better to rent the car at Malaga Airport or in the city? If we rent at the airport, we’d need a hotel with parking, which doesn’t seem easy. Or stay outside the city and park for free near the center if possible? I’ve read comments about taking a taxi to Malaga and then picking up the rental car at the airport the next morning. The taxi would really need to be affordable...
Thanks so much for your feedback and suggestions for visits during this little circuit. Have a great day, everyone! Christine
D1: Arrival at 9 AM in Malaga, day in Malaga and overnight stay D2: Head straight to Nerja (1-hour drive) and spend the night there D3: Head straight to Granada (1.5-hour drive), spend the day and night there D4: Granada. Visit the Alhambra (Nasrid Palaces tour at 5 PM) and spend the night D5: Head to Ronda (2.5-hour drive) and spend the night D6: White Villages and overnight in Ronda D7: Head straight to the Costa del Sol (e.g., Estepona), spend the day and night there D8: Return to Malaga to catch our flight
There you go! This itinerary takes into account that we’d like to do a circuit starting from Seville in a few years. That said, it’d be a shame to miss something doable from Malaga.
Questions: Since the Alhambra visit is only at 5 PM, and we’d already have the day to explore Granada, would arriving the day before be a mistake? Or should we skip this day and dedicate it elsewhere (Costa del Sol? Head toward Tabernas?)? The old town appeals to me, but maybe the Sacromonte neighborhood isn’t essential... Same question for Ronda: should we dedicate a full day to it, or combine Ronda and the White Villages in one day? Note that we love wandering around villages outside, so that might answer my question! :)
Final question: Is it better to rent the car at Malaga Airport or in the city? If we rent at the airport, we’d need a hotel with parking, which doesn’t seem easy. Or stay outside the city and park for free near the center if possible? I’ve read comments about taking a taxi to Malaga and then picking up the rental car at the airport the next morning. The taxi would really need to be affordable...
Thanks so much for your feedback and suggestions for visits during this little circuit. Have a great day, everyone! Christine
Hello,
we’re a couple planning a 2-week road trip this August, with a must-stop (about 3 days on Skye). Any route suggestions? Hotel recommendations? Photo spots?
Hello,
My husband and I are planning a trip to Ireland in September 2026. We’ll be flying from Montreal to London, where we’ll spend three nights. After that, we’ll head to Dublin for a few days and take trains to visit the main attractions. Our ideal plan would be to choose hotels near train stations and take tours to the interesting spots. Would 8 days in Ireland be enough for this kind of trip?
My husband and I are planning a trip to Ireland in September 2026. We’ll be flying from Montreal to London, where we’ll spend three nights. After that, we’ll head to Dublin for a few days and take trains to visit the main attractions. Our ideal plan would be to choose hotels near train stations and take tours to the interesting spots. Would 8 days in Ireland be enough for this kind of trip?
Hi there,
We’re a group of 4 heading out at the end of June for 11 days. I’m just starting my research. We’ll be renting a regular car, not a 4x4. I’m not finding a ton of info on the North. Would love your take on all those kilometers—is there a route that lets us cut out a section? Thanks
We’re a group of 4 heading out at the end of June for 11 days. I’m just starting my research. We’ll be renting a regular car, not a 4x4. I’m not finding a ton of info on the North. Would love your take on all those kilometers—is there a route that lets us cut out a section? Thanks