Informations sur nouvelle écolodge près de Vientiane
by Arina
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Je tenais à vous signaler un hôtel (écolodge) qui se trouve à environ 30km de Vientiane, sur la Nam Ngum, et qui est un moyen idéal d’entrer en contact avec la culture Lao en arrivant dans le pays. Il ne se trouve malheureusement pas encore sur les guides car il n’a ouvert qu’en janvier, et il faut au moins 2 ans (si ce n’est plus) pour qu’il apparaisse sur les pages de Lonely Planet par exemple. J’y suis depuis un mois, car étant à la retraite, je voyage en prenant mon temps et j’avais décidé de donner des cours d’anglais de base à des élèves d’une école primaire voisine. Pendant mon séjour j’ai tellement entendu des hôtes dire ‘Si j’avais connu cet endroit plus tôt… Si mes parents avaient su que ce type d’endroit existait si près de Vientiane… etc etc’ que je me suis décidée à en parler sur les forums, et pour que leur site soit plus accessible aux français que cela intéresserait, mais qui trouveraient un site entièrement en anglais rébarbatif, j’ai traduit tout ce qui concerne la présentation du lieu. Renseignements sur http://rivertimelaos.com/ (De nombreux renseignements complémentaires en anglais sur la vie au Laos)
C’est un lieu idéal pour des personnes arrivant par exemple directement de Paris. Elles pourraient par exemple y passer 3 nuits, ce qui leur permettrait de faire des ballades sur la rivière, et d’aller visiter les villages et temples voisins.
J’ai eu la chance d’aller à un nouvel an Hmong dans un village voisin il y a 15 jours, et nous n’étions que 3 occidentaux… On se trouve donc entièrement hors des sentiers battus, et n’est-ce pas ce que nous cherchons tous ???
Par ailleurs il y a le grand bonheur de prendre des repas (très bonne nourriture) sur le restaurant flottant. Après un mois j’y trouve toujours autant de plaisir, car il y fait toujours une brise agréable, et on peut suivre toute la vie de la rivière : les pêcheurs, le tout petit mais très actif ferry (de nombreux clients viennent pour le guérisseur très réputé), les villageois qui cultivent les berges après la baisse des eaux… Le rythme de la vie lao que je retrouve ici presque identique à celle que j’ai connue il y a 50 ans quand j’ai vécu dans le pays.
Pour ceux que cela intéresse les 2 directeurs (un britannique et un laotien) ont passé de très longues périodes en tant que moines dans les temples voisins. Un jeune hollandais est même venu une dizaine de jours pour une première approche à la méditation.
Un lieu très spécial…
Au niveau pratique on peut très facilement se rendre à Vientiane en ½ heure en tuk-tuk commun pour simplement 10 000kips, cad 1 €. Négocier le prix avant d’y monter bien sûr !!! Pour venir de Vientiane en tuk-tuk il faut absolument imprimer la carte qui se trouve sur le site et mentionner le nom ‘Philip’. Départ près du petit marché à côté de la gare routière centrale.
Dortoir à $8 comprenant un déjeuner copieux. Sans me priver je paie environ 8€ pour les 2 repas. Tout à fait correct pour le plaisir de séjourner dans un endroit aussi agréable.
Je souhaite simplement que d’autres personnes ne passent pas bêtement à côté de ce lieu tout simplement parce qu’il n’est pas sur les guides. Je l’ai moi-même trouvé par hasard en lisant un message sur un forum anglo-saxon, ce que tout le monde n’a pas la possibilité, ou le temps de faire.
Je souhaite que ce message ne soit pas pris pour de la publicité par les modérateurs. Je pense avoir mis assez d’infos lors de mon voyage en Afrique il y a 3 ans pour que l’on ne se méprenne pas sur mon compte… Je partage tout simplement mes infos avec les autres voyageurs !http://rivertimelaos.com/
Arina
J’ai eu la chance d’aller à un nouvel an Hmong dans un village voisin il y a 15 jours, et nous n’étions que 3 occidentaux… On se trouve donc entièrement hors des sentiers battus, et n’est-ce pas ce que nous cherchons tous ???
et une fois dans les guides ???
et une fois dans les guides ???
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Je comprends très bien ce que tu sous-entends...
Mais Rivertime Resort n'est pas la première écolodge près de Vientiane. Il y en a une autre qui existe depuis je crois plus de 10 ans, et elle a gardé toute son authenticité. Quand le resort sera dans les guides, il aura plus de clients, et son avenir sera assuré. Mais il est certain que quand il faut faire 30km pour s'y rendre, il est protégé de ceux qui veulent voyager comme on va au Mac Do. Seuls ceux qui ont vraiment envie de rencontrer la vie rurale lao viendront, les autres resteront dans les bars de Vientiane...
Je sais quel a été le cheminement des deux directeurs du resort (as-tu lu que tous les deux ont été moines dans un monastère près d'ici) et je sais que leur projet est profondément ancré sans l'éco tourisme. Ils disent bien que ce lieu s'adresse avant tout à de vrais 'voyageurs' qui ont profondément envie de rencontrer le pays.
Si au prochain nouvel an Hmong on rencontre une vingtaine d'étrangers, je pense que cela ne dénaturera pas la fête!!! Il ne s'agit en aucune manière d'un hôtel de 200 chambres, et d'ailleurs je ne pense pas que cela puisse intéresser ce type d'hôtellerie. De toute façon le gouvernement laotien semble vouloir s'engager dans l'écotourisme.
Mais Rivertime Resort n'est pas la première écolodge près de Vientiane. Il y en a une autre qui existe depuis je crois plus de 10 ans, et elle a gardé toute son authenticité. Quand le resort sera dans les guides, il aura plus de clients, et son avenir sera assuré. Mais il est certain que quand il faut faire 30km pour s'y rendre, il est protégé de ceux qui veulent voyager comme on va au Mac Do. Seuls ceux qui ont vraiment envie de rencontrer la vie rurale lao viendront, les autres resteront dans les bars de Vientiane...
Je sais quel a été le cheminement des deux directeurs du resort (as-tu lu que tous les deux ont été moines dans un monastère près d'ici) et je sais que leur projet est profondément ancré sans l'éco tourisme. Ils disent bien que ce lieu s'adresse avant tout à de vrais 'voyageurs' qui ont profondément envie de rencontrer le pays.
Si au prochain nouvel an Hmong on rencontre une vingtaine d'étrangers, je pense que cela ne dénaturera pas la fête!!! Il ne s'agit en aucune manière d'un hôtel de 200 chambres, et d'ailleurs je ne pense pas que cela puisse intéresser ce type d'hôtellerie. De toute façon le gouvernement laotien semble vouloir s'engager dans l'écotourisme.
Arina
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Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!





