Location de voiture aux États-Unis: Alamo, mise en garde!
by Topusa
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonsoir à tous,
Nous revenons de notre énième voyage aux USA, et je voudrais mettre en garde les futurs voyageurs .Nous avons déjà loué une voiture chez Alamo à maintes reprises, mais il semblerait qu'ils prennent les touristes pour des pigeons cette année.A chaque location, nous choississons l'option GOLD, qui inclut toutes les taxes ainsi que 3 chauffeurs et un plein de carburant.Cette année, en rentrant chez moi, j'ai constaté sur mon relevé de carte de crédit qu'ils m'ont facturé du carburant sur mes deux locations:celle du mois d'avril louée à Los Angeles et remise à San Diego, et la deuxième louée à San Diego après la croisière et remise à Las Vegas à la fin de notre séjour.Je suis très déçue par leurs pratiques, car j'avais toute confiance en cette société en qui nous avions confiance.
Ne faites pas comme moi et vérifiez bien qu'ils ne remplissent aucune souche à la remise du véhicule.
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Bonjour,
effectivement pas cool mais il est certain que nous sommes vulnérables puisque dès lors qu'ils ont l'empreinte de notre carte ils peuvent faire ce qu'ils veulent .
Ne faites pas comme moi et vérifiez bien qu'ils ne remplissent aucune souche à la remise du véhicule.
De quelle souche parles tu?
Merci
effectivement pas cool mais il est certain que nous sommes vulnérables puisque dès lors qu'ils ont l'empreinte de notre carte ils peuvent faire ce qu'ils veulent .
Ne faites pas comme moi et vérifiez bien qu'ils ne remplissent aucune souche à la remise du véhicule.
De quelle souche parles tu?
Merci
Bonjour,
Pas de panique : ça va s'arranger.
Si vous avez loué directement chez Alamo, contactez le service client à partir du site américain si vous voulez traiter en direct avec eux. Si vous êtes passé par le site alamo.fr pour faire votre résa, vous pouvez également voir avec le service client de National/Citer, représentant Alamo en France.
Si vous êtes passé par un broker, c'est lui qu'il faut contacter. Les erreurs de facturations sont fréquentes. Et si votre broker est sérieux le problème devrait être rapidement réglé par leur intermédiaire.
Pas de panique : ça va s'arranger.
Si vous avez loué directement chez Alamo, contactez le service client à partir du site américain si vous voulez traiter en direct avec eux. Si vous êtes passé par le site alamo.fr pour faire votre résa, vous pouvez également voir avec le service client de National/Citer, représentant Alamo en France.
Si vous êtes passé par un broker, c'est lui qu'il faut contacter. Les erreurs de facturations sont fréquentes. Et si votre broker est sérieux le problème devrait être rapidement réglé par leur intermédiaire.
Maybe you should be a little more afraid of me than you are right now.
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Bonjour, je profite de cette discussion pour demander un renseignement ALAMO. Comment peut t'on se procurer le N° de téléphone de l'agence ALAMO de l'aéroport de Washington?? je n'arrive pas à le trouver ??
Merci d'avance pour ceux qui connaissent la réponse !
Merci d'avance pour ceux qui connaissent la réponse !
Alamo Rent A Car
www.alamo.com23430 Autopilot Drive
Dulles, VA 20166
(888) 826-6893
Google est assurément une ressource très utile !! 😛
Google est assurément une ressource très utile !! 😛
Merci beaucoup, j'avais cherché sur Google, mais je n'avais pas dû faire la bonne recherche !
En parlant de souche, je veux dire le petit reçu qu'ils vous rendent à la remise de la voiture, sur laquelle il était mentionné Alamo Gold prepaid (=prépayé).En dessous, en tout petit, le montant du carburant à payer en sus.
Il est vrai que l'erreur est humaine, et je sais qu'ils me rembourseront tôt ou tard, mais deux erreurs, une à San Diego et l'autre à Las Vegas, j'ai comme un gros doute.
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Merci pour l'info.🙂
Bonjour
J'ai l'impression que maintenant chez Alamo, on te facture systématiquement un plein à la fin de la location. C'est ce que j'avais vu sur leur site, du coup en février, j'ai rendu la voiture avec le réservoir vide 😉 Il m'ont bien sur facturé le plein (38$ pour une compacte), c'est un peu cher mais mieux que si je l'avais rendu le véhicule avec le réservoir plein 🙂 Ils m'ont aussi proposé une assurance remorquage - perte de clefs ainsi qu'un surclassement )payant bien entendu) car soi disant la voiture serait trop petite pour nous. J'ai tout refusé en bloc et la voiture s'est avérée très spacieuse vu qu'on ne faisait pas vraiment de route pendant ce voyage là. J'ai vu sur ce post http://voyageforum.com/voyage/etats-unis_location_voiture_aux_etats_unis_D2439235-5/ que maintenant, ils proposaient aussi une sorte d'assurance maladie. Il va falloir faire bien attention avant de signer le contrat 😠 L'avantage chez eux, c'est que tu choisis ton véhicule et que suivant tes besoins tu privilégies la taille du coffre, la hauteur de la garde ou le confort 😎 Mais plus de vrais 4x4 😕
Pour le plein, extrait des conditions générales de vente sur le site français : Carburant Votre voiture vous est remise avec le réservoir plein. Sauf disposition contraire dans votre forfait de location, vous êtes tenu de régler le plein de carburant lors de la prise de votre véhicule. Aucun remboursement ne sera accordé pour le carburant acheté mais non utilisé. Le plein d'essence n'est pas nécessaire à la fin de la location.
J'ai l'impression que maintenant chez Alamo, on te facture systématiquement un plein à la fin de la location. C'est ce que j'avais vu sur leur site, du coup en février, j'ai rendu la voiture avec le réservoir vide 😉 Il m'ont bien sur facturé le plein (38$ pour une compacte), c'est un peu cher mais mieux que si je l'avais rendu le véhicule avec le réservoir plein 🙂 Ils m'ont aussi proposé une assurance remorquage - perte de clefs ainsi qu'un surclassement )payant bien entendu) car soi disant la voiture serait trop petite pour nous. J'ai tout refusé en bloc et la voiture s'est avérée très spacieuse vu qu'on ne faisait pas vraiment de route pendant ce voyage là. J'ai vu sur ce post http://voyageforum.com/voyage/etats-unis_location_voiture_aux_etats_unis_D2439235-5/ que maintenant, ils proposaient aussi une sorte d'assurance maladie. Il va falloir faire bien attention avant de signer le contrat 😠 L'avantage chez eux, c'est que tu choisis ton véhicule et que suivant tes besoins tu privilégies la taille du coffre, la hauteur de la garde ou le confort 😎 Mais plus de vrais 4x4 😕
Pour le plein, extrait des conditions générales de vente sur le site français : Carburant Votre voiture vous est remise avec le réservoir plein. Sauf disposition contraire dans votre forfait de location, vous êtes tenu de régler le plein de carburant lors de la prise de votre véhicule. Aucun remboursement ne sera accordé pour le carburant acheté mais non utilisé. Le plein d'essence n'est pas nécessaire à la fin de la location.
Nathalie
L'honnêteté, ce n'est pas dire ce que l'on pense mais penser ce que l'on dit 😉
Bonjour,
Effectivement, et comme tu le cites, quand on loue en prépayé chez Alamo par l'intermédiaire d'un broker européen, l'option achat du réservoir sera systématiquement souscrite lors de la prise de la voiture. Il n'est pas possible de la refuser, et Alamo facturera systématiquement cette option.
D'où l'intérêt de rendre la voiture réservoir vide... 😕
Je deteste cette contrainte 🙁, étant assez grand pour faire le plein avant de rendre la voiture, mais détestant par contre devoir calculer pour rendre le réservoir au plus vide... 🤪
J'ai l'impression que maintenant chez Alamo, on te facture systématiquement un plein à la fin de la location.
Pour le plein, extrait des conditions générales de vente sur le site français : Carburant Votre voiture vous est remise avec le réservoir plein. Sauf disposition contraire dans votre forfait de location, vous êtes tenu de régler le plein de carburant lors de la prise de votre véhicule. Aucun remboursement ne sera accordé pour le carburant acheté mais non utilisé. Le plein d'essence n'est pas nécessaire à la fin de la location.
Pas toujours hélas... ça dépend des agences. Personnellement, il n'y a qu'une seule fois où j'ai pu choisir mon véhicule dans la rangée (c'était à FLL). Dans tous les autres cas (BUF, SAN, RAP, SEA, PDX, TUS), le véhicule était déjà attribué et je n'ai pas eu le choix.
L'avantage chez eux, c'est que tu choisis ton véhicule
Effectivement, et comme tu le cites, quand on loue en prépayé chez Alamo par l'intermédiaire d'un broker européen, l'option achat du réservoir sera systématiquement souscrite lors de la prise de la voiture. Il n'est pas possible de la refuser, et Alamo facturera systématiquement cette option.
D'où l'intérêt de rendre la voiture réservoir vide... 😕
Je deteste cette contrainte 🙁, étant assez grand pour faire le plein avant de rendre la voiture, mais détestant par contre devoir calculer pour rendre le réservoir au plus vide... 🤪
J'ai l'impression que maintenant chez Alamo, on te facture systématiquement un plein à la fin de la location.
Pour le plein, extrait des conditions générales de vente sur le site français : Carburant Votre voiture vous est remise avec le réservoir plein. Sauf disposition contraire dans votre forfait de location, vous êtes tenu de régler le plein de carburant lors de la prise de votre véhicule. Aucun remboursement ne sera accordé pour le carburant acheté mais non utilisé. Le plein d'essence n'est pas nécessaire à la fin de la location.
Pas toujours hélas... ça dépend des agences. Personnellement, il n'y a qu'une seule fois où j'ai pu choisir mon véhicule dans la rangée (c'était à FLL). Dans tous les autres cas (BUF, SAN, RAP, SEA, PDX, TUS), le véhicule était déjà attribué et je n'ai pas eu le choix.
L'avantage chez eux, c'est que tu choisis ton véhicule
Maybe you should be a little more afraid of me than you are right now.
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Ah et bien ça ce n'est pas une bonne nouvelle 😠
Il va falloir ouvrir un post pour voir quelles agences permettent de choisir...Alamo (Las Vegas) 2007 via Autoescape : On a pu choisir le véhiculeAvis (San Diego) 2007 en direct : pas de choix mais voiture nous allant car on restait 3 jours sur place sans vraiment faire de routeHertz (Salt Lake City) 2008 en direct : pas de choix mais après avoir raler on a pu changer le véhicule pour une Chevrolet Impala avec grand coffre (là on faisait beaucoup de route Yellowstone, Moab)Alamo (Orlando) 2010 en direct : on a pu choisir le véhiculeCette année ce sera encore une location de Las Végas. J'espère que comme en 2007 on pourra choisir.
On voudrait un 4x4 mais hélas, on aura plus probablement un SUV, vu la difficulté de trouver un vrai 4x4 😕
J'aimerais quand même un véhicule qui nous permette de faire des pistes "bleues" (DV, Yosémite, Sedona, Page, GC north)
Ceci dit, je n'attendrai pas des heures pour avoir celui de mes rêves comme Philippe (Sedonax) 😛
Mais lui en a un réel besoin pour ses trips...
On n'a jamais conduit de 4x4 alors pour cette fois, on va laisser les pistes "noires" aux pros... 😉
Ceux qui nous font rêver avec leurs circuits hors des sentiers battus 😎
Nathalie
L'honnêteté, ce n'est pas dire ce que l'on pense mais penser ce que l'on dit 😉
Juste pour info ci joint un contrat type ALAMO en Français. Les points en jaune sont ceux qu'il faut impérativement vérifier avant de signer le contrat.
Pour les Frais estimatifs, si vous avez déjà payé(voucher) via un brooker il ne doit apparaitre que les frais du plein d'essence et éventuellement les frais d'assurances en option que vous aurez choisi. Bien vérifier que soit bien stipulé :
Je refuse la couverture de protection personnelle CAREFREE
si vous ne la souhaiter pas car ils ont tendance a l'ajouter d'office. Il est bon de savoir que nous avons de toute manière 24h00 pour nous rétracter le cas échéant et c'est toujours bon de le savoir .
Je refuse la couverture de protection personnelle CAREFREE
si vous ne la souhaiter pas car ils ont tendance a l'ajouter d'office. Il est bon de savoir que nous avons de toute manière 24h00 pour nous rétracter le cas échéant et c'est toujours bon de le savoir .
Salut,
Merci mais ce n'est pas super lisible... 🤪
Tu devrais passer par imageshack ou autre pour déposer une image haute définition.
Merci mais ce n'est pas super lisible... 🤪
Tu devrais passer par imageshack ou autre pour déposer une image haute définition.
Maybe you should be a little more afraid of me than you are right now.
http://flightdiary.net/friendly45
http://flightdiary.net/friendly45
Toujours dans un souci de pédagogie, un autre exemple de contrat Alamo.
Les assurances Roadside Plus et CareFree ont bien été déclinées.
Les frais estimés de 104.70 USD correspondent à un conducteur supplémentaire et l'option "achat du réservoir" obligatoire... 😕
Les assurances Roadside Plus et CareFree ont bien été déclinées.
Les frais estimés de 104.70 USD correspondent à un conducteur supplémentaire et l'option "achat du réservoir" obligatoire... 😕
Maybe you should be a little more afraid of me than you are right now.
http://flightdiary.net/friendly45
http://flightdiary.net/friendly45
Bonjour,
Je pars pour New York et Washington dans deux semaines.
Je suis passé par un broker Francais (BSP-auto)pour louer un véhicule de Washington à Montréal Chez ALAMO.
J'ai pris le maximum de ce que l'on me proposait, à savoir : Toutes taxes locales - KM illimités -Assurance LDW avec rachat de franchise+ LIS (1 000 000 $) - GPS + 3 conducteurs + plein d'essence inclus le tout pour une somme de 292.00€ + 199.00$ de drop off - pour 7 jours pour une voiture catégorie Pontiac G5
il est effectivemnet précisé que le réservoir doit être vide au retour.
Voilà, j'ai un voucher de location. j'espère que tout ira bien à l'arrivée ? et pour passer la frontière US/CANADA ??
J'ai pris le maximum de ce que l'on me proposait, à savoir : Toutes taxes locales - KM illimités -Assurance LDW avec rachat de franchise+ LIS (1 000 000 $) - GPS + 3 conducteurs + plein d'essence inclus le tout pour une somme de 292.00€ + 199.00$ de drop off - pour 7 jours pour une voiture catégorie Pontiac G5
il est effectivemnet précisé que le réservoir doit être vide au retour.
Voilà, j'ai un voucher de location. j'espère que tout ira bien à l'arrivée ? et pour passer la frontière US/CANADA ??
Merci à tous pour vos commentaires et conseils.
Un premier mail d'Alamo-états-unis me confirme que le carburant n'était pas comprit dans mon contrat, puis un deuxième mail m'est parvenu , cette fois de Alamo Internationnal, qui confirme que le carburant est comprit dans le contrat "Alamo Gold", et qu'ils vont me rembourser les deux sommes déduites de ma carte de crédit.
Je ne m'inquiétais pas trop, car je loue toujours avec le même contrat chez Alamo, et je n'ai jamais dû payer le carburant en la rendant.Il s'agissait donc effectivement de deux erreurs!
Pour ce qui est de choisir e véhicule chez Alamo, c'est possible à Miami, à Orlando, à Port Canaveral, à Tampa , à Los Angeles et à San Diego.A chaque fois on nous a laissé choisir , et souvent la categorie n'est pas disponible et vous avez droit gratuitement à une classe supérieure.
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Une mini mise en garde concernant National (NationalCar).
Je vais donc chercher ma voiture (un Chevy Tahoe) Mercredi prochain à Denver, tout était bon depuis deja 2/3 mois, soit 1380.86$ pour 2 semaines (avec un retour à Phoenix).
Ce matin, je reçois un mail me disant que ma réservation est bien confirmée etc. mais je clic tout de meme pour voir ma réservation et surprise! Elle est passée à 1550$!
Je regarde de plus prêt, et je vois que un GPS à été ajouté à ma commande! 170$ de GPS pour 2 semaines! Sont sympa! J'ai remodifié ma commande et j'ai hate d'être sur place pour voir si celle-ci a encore bougé!
Juste un doute concernant le "Upfront fuel" qui est "included", cela veux bien dire que si je ramène le véhicule avec le plein ou sans, ils vont me facturer un plein d'essence?!
Merci!
Je vais donc chercher ma voiture (un Chevy Tahoe) Mercredi prochain à Denver, tout était bon depuis deja 2/3 mois, soit 1380.86$ pour 2 semaines (avec un retour à Phoenix).
Ce matin, je reçois un mail me disant que ma réservation est bien confirmée etc. mais je clic tout de meme pour voir ma réservation et surprise! Elle est passée à 1550$!
Je regarde de plus prêt, et je vois que un GPS à été ajouté à ma commande! 170$ de GPS pour 2 semaines! Sont sympa! J'ai remodifié ma commande et j'ai hate d'être sur place pour voir si celle-ci a encore bougé!
Juste un doute concernant le "Upfront fuel" qui est "included", cela veux bien dire que si je ramène le véhicule avec le plein ou sans, ils vont me facturer un plein d'essence?!
Merci!
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Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!








