Maladie de chagas au Pérou et en Bolivie
by Cedric15
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Nous nous apprêtons à partir pour ces deux beaux pays.
Au service des maladies tropicales d'un hopital, on nous a mis en garde contre la maladie de chagas.
Cette maladie se transmet par les déjections de punaises, particulièrement dans des zones rurales et les maisons en torchi (même si les grandes ne sont pas épargnées).
On aimerait savoir si vous y avez été confronté? Comment vous vous en êtes prémunis? Quelles zones sont selon vous les plus à éviter?
Avez vous par exemple des infos sur la côte péruvienne, le canyon de colca, le lac titicaca et le sud lipez?
Merci à vous
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cédric
Bonjour
Le medecin Bresilien Carlos Chagas avait decouvert cette terrible maladie, elle provient effectivement d un petit scarabé transmisseur de cette maladie, elle est egalement tres connue au Bresil dans toutes les regions ..
Il faut faire particulierement attention a la propreté du local et en particulier : Ne buvez pas de jus de canne a sucre fait par les ambulants qui utilisent les machines a broyer la canne a sucre pour en extraire le jus, bien souvent les machines sont vieilles et sales et peuvent avoir cette contamination par ce scarabé, nous avons eu un cas semblable au Bresil ou 12 personnes avaient ete contaminé par la maladie en buvant ce jus de canne a sucre ..
Il n y a aucun medicament pouvant guerir la maladie de Chagas et aucun vaccin pouvant l eviter ..
La propreté du local est tres importante, evitez de boire des jus de fruit fait par des ambulants qui vendent leurs produits dans la rue ...
a bientot jean marc / rio de janeiro
Le medecin Bresilien Carlos Chagas avait decouvert cette terrible maladie, elle provient effectivement d un petit scarabé transmisseur de cette maladie, elle est egalement tres connue au Bresil dans toutes les regions ..
Il faut faire particulierement attention a la propreté du local et en particulier : Ne buvez pas de jus de canne a sucre fait par les ambulants qui utilisent les machines a broyer la canne a sucre pour en extraire le jus, bien souvent les machines sont vieilles et sales et peuvent avoir cette contamination par ce scarabé, nous avons eu un cas semblable au Bresil ou 12 personnes avaient ete contaminé par la maladie en buvant ce jus de canne a sucre ..
Il n y a aucun medicament pouvant guerir la maladie de Chagas et aucun vaccin pouvant l eviter ..
La propreté du local est tres importante, evitez de boire des jus de fruit fait par des ambulants qui vendent leurs produits dans la rue ...
a bientot jean marc / rio de janeiro
Merci pour ta réponse,
nous ne connaissions pas ce moyen de contamination.
On nous a expliqué que le moyen principal de contamination passait par les déjections de ces punaises ou petits scarabes après vous avoir mordu (pendant notamment le sommeil).
La première précaution étant de ne pas écraser la punaise et ne pas se gratter pour ne pas favoriser la contamination.
Peut être que certains auront plus de vécu que moi sur le sujet.
Merci encore
cédric
Bonjour
Oui egalement par piqure de cette punaise mais les cas les plus commun sont par contamination de ce genre de machine a faire le jus de canne ou autres jus de fruit, car les punaises font leur nid dans les engrenages des machines ...dans tous les cas les machines etaient sales ou mal entretenues, cet insecte est vraiment tres dangereux et le pire ...aucun medicament actuel n arrive guerir cette terrible maladie ..
a bientot jean marc
Oui egalement par piqure de cette punaise mais les cas les plus commun sont par contamination de ce genre de machine a faire le jus de canne ou autres jus de fruit, car les punaises font leur nid dans les engrenages des machines ...dans tous les cas les machines etaient sales ou mal entretenues, cet insecte est vraiment tres dangereux et le pire ...aucun medicament actuel n arrive guerir cette terrible maladie ..
a bientot jean marc
La maladie de Chagas est essentiellement présente sur le pourtour amazonien. Il n'y en a pas sur la côte.
Mais elle remonte assez haut en altitude, par exemple elle est très fréquente dans la région de Sucre, et j'ai une cliente qui l'a attrapée à Machu Picchu.
Il n'y a aucun traitement préventif ou curatif contre cette maladie
Il n'y a aucun traitement préventif ou curatif contre cette maladie
Salut Cedric,
Bien pour la maladie de Chagas c'est simple présence amérique du sud et centrale bon je te dis pas le nb de mort ms c'est pas énorme qd meme ... c'est une punaise volante et hematophage qui te pique la nuit ++ et ce n'est pas douloureux, En gros la clinique une ulcération ganglions en qq Jours puis fievre ganglions grosse rate et gros foie en qq mois dispârait ss traitement puis apres qq années environ 10 ans si non traité il se developpe une myocardite et troubles neurologiques
Le diagnostic se fait surtt en regardant les Glogules rouges sous microscope on voit le parasite appellé trypanosoma cruzi ou pas sérologie (anticorps)
Le traitement existe ++++ (benznidazole) dure plusieurs mois et guerri (à traiter surtt lors de la phase aigue ou subaigue) la maladie te sera diagnostiqué en france en maladie infectieuse car rare mais en amerique du sud ils y penseront plus facilement face à la clinique. l Pour 'éviter utilise moustiquaire et évite de dormir le long des cours d'eau, il n'y a pas de vaccin !! et si la bas tu vois que tu as des ganglions va voir un médecin. Si tu veux j'ai fais un cours facile à lire en ppt à ce sujet je peux te l'envoyer car il y a des photos . A+ Bastien
Bien pour la maladie de Chagas c'est simple présence amérique du sud et centrale bon je te dis pas le nb de mort ms c'est pas énorme qd meme ... c'est une punaise volante et hematophage qui te pique la nuit ++ et ce n'est pas douloureux, En gros la clinique une ulcération ganglions en qq Jours puis fievre ganglions grosse rate et gros foie en qq mois dispârait ss traitement puis apres qq années environ 10 ans si non traité il se developpe une myocardite et troubles neurologiques
Le diagnostic se fait surtt en regardant les Glogules rouges sous microscope on voit le parasite appellé trypanosoma cruzi ou pas sérologie (anticorps)
Le traitement existe ++++ (benznidazole) dure plusieurs mois et guerri (à traiter surtt lors de la phase aigue ou subaigue) la maladie te sera diagnostiqué en france en maladie infectieuse car rare mais en amerique du sud ils y penseront plus facilement face à la clinique. l Pour 'éviter utilise moustiquaire et évite de dormir le long des cours d'eau, il n'y a pas de vaccin !! et si la bas tu vois que tu as des ganglions va voir un médecin. Si tu veux j'ai fais un cours facile à lire en ppt à ce sujet je peux te l'envoyer car il y a des photos . A+ Bastien
Salut Bastien,
merci 1000 fois pour ces renseignements bien utiles. Ils m'ont un peu plus éclairé sur le sujet et j'en suis sûr beaucoup d'autres membres du forum. C'est rassurant de savoir qu'un traitement existe. Ton cours m'intéresse. Si tu peux me l'envoyer: cedricbouyge@caramail.fr merci encore a +
merci 1000 fois pour ces renseignements bien utiles. Ils m'ont un peu plus éclairé sur le sujet et j'en suis sûr beaucoup d'autres membres du forum. C'est rassurant de savoir qu'un traitement existe. Ton cours m'intéresse. Si tu peux me l'envoyer: cedricbouyge@caramail.fr merci encore a +
cédric
Bonjour à tous, j'ai suivi votre discussion avec intérêt puisque je pars en voyage organisé au Pérou/Bolivie en septembre prochain.
Voici notre circuit dans les grandes lignes : Lima - Arequipa - Juliaca - Puno - Chucuito - Copacabana - La Paz - Tiwanaku - Desaguadero - Sicuani - Cuzco - Machu Picchu - Aguas Calientes - Vallée sacrée - retour à Lima - Ica - Paracas - Nazca.
Nous sommes supposés résider dans des hotels plutot "pas mals" genre 3 ou 4 étoiles.
Dans ces conditions, doit-on craindre ou se prémunir activement contre cette maladie de chagas ?
Merci beaucoup à tous, et bons voyages !
Voici notre circuit dans les grandes lignes : Lima - Arequipa - Juliaca - Puno - Chucuito - Copacabana - La Paz - Tiwanaku - Desaguadero - Sicuani - Cuzco - Machu Picchu - Aguas Calientes - Vallée sacrée - retour à Lima - Ica - Paracas - Nazca.
Nous sommes supposés résider dans des hotels plutot "pas mals" genre 3 ou 4 étoiles.
Dans ces conditions, doit-on craindre ou se prémunir activement contre cette maladie de chagas ?
Merci beaucoup à tous, et bons voyages !
Cedric
Toujours difficile de répondre formellement.
Mais après 5 semaines au Pérou et en Bolivie (en ayant fait l'ensemble de ton trajet), nous n'avons pas croisé de punaises ni eu de symptomes de cette maladie.
Peut être est ce plus le cas en Amazonie?
Peut être davantage dans des endroits insalubres?
Dans tous les cas, si tu croises des punaises, tu peux toujours te protéger avec des produits répulsifs comme "repel insect".......
Mais avant tout profite, car tu vas faire un super voyage. Et tout ceci ne devrait être que de la prévention, au cas où......
Bon voyage
cedric
Dans tous les cas, si tu croises des punaises, tu peux toujours te protéger avec des produits répulsifs comme "repel insect".......
Mais avant tout profite, car tu vas faire un super voyage. Et tout ceci ne devrait être que de la prévention, au cas où......
Bon voyage
cedric
cédric
Bonjour,
En rpévision de mon prochain séjour en Bolivie, on m'a affirmé que le risque était trèèèès élevé (dixit la perosnne au centre de vaccin) de contracter chagas dans les zones rurales, peu importe le type de logement.
Or je me prépare a être 2 mois dans la région du parc Amboro (Samaipata etc...) dans des zones bien rurales et probablement en logeant chez l'habitant..
Quelqu'un a-t-il des informations concernant cette région? quand est-il du risque? est-ce aussi risqué dans les auberges?
merci d'avance!
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I need 2 dental implants and I'd like to get them done abroad (it's a question of price).
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Can you tell me if you're satisfied with the services provided by Dentist Miguel at Club Amigo in Holguin? I'd like to go there in mid-December. Is it worth the trip to get dental prosthetics done?
Thanks for getting back to me... Michelle from Quebec
Hello,
I’m looking for a dentist who can do a full lower-arch implant with a complete prosthesis. I’m in Quebec and available to travel to Cuba. Need full contact details. Thanks everyone!
Hi there,
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!