L'année prochaine, je compte me rendre à Malaga. Je compte bien évidemment visiter Grenade et ses magnifiques jardins de l'Alhambra.
Je souhaiterais savoir si c'était plus pratique de prendre le train de Malaga et descendre à Grenade ou y aller en bus.
Quel est le moyen le plus rapide ?
Je voulais faire Paris / Grenade en avion, mais il n'y a pas de vol low cost pour cette destination, alors je me me décide pour Malaga.
Entre Malaga et Grenade, le plus pratique, le plus rapide, et le plus économique, est de louer une voiture à l'aéroport de Malaga
Aller simple, en bus :
* en transports en commun :
- temps d'attente du bus (15 minutes) +
- trajet 1 h 45 (au plus vite) +
- temps d'attente du bus (15 minutes) +
- bus pour aller en centre ville (20 minutes)
= prix : 15 € par personne (13 € pour le premier bus + 2 € prix du billet pour le deuxième bus)
= temps de trajet : environ 2h40
* en voiture
- location de voiture : + ou - 10 € la journée (voire, moins en hiver)
- carburant : + ou - 10 €
- parking : 0 € (si on se gare à côté du Palais des Congrès)
= prix : 10 € par personne
= temps de trajet : 1h15, sur la route, on peut visiter Antequera, et/ou des villages blancs ou picniquer au bord d'un lac, etc....
Donc
Aller-Retour :
* en transports en commun :
- 30 € par personne
- 5h20 de trajet
* en voiture :
- 20 € (location + carburant) par voiture (quelque soit le nombre d'occupants)
- 2h30 de trajet
Vous pouvez faire des simulations de prix sur Carigami.fr ou Malagacar.com
Ski-Addict
Le véritable voyage ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux
(M. Proust)
Si Anne n'a pas son permis, le problème ne se pose donc pas.
Elle n'a pas le choix.
On a déjà parlé de ce problème des dizaines de fois sur ce forum.
Vous n'êtes venu qu'une seule fois en Andalousie, alors vos conseils valent ce qu'il valent.
Si vous êtes retraité et que vous avez tout votre temps, tant mieux pour vous, mais tout le monde n'est pas dans votre cas.
Et moi, je préfère m'arrêter en route pour profiter de la nature.
Vos interventions ne me feront pas changer d'avis.
Maintenant, moi aussi, je regrette que la voiture pollue (comme les autocars).
On en a déjà parlé, à de multiples reprises, sur ce forum.
Reste peut-être aller de Malaga à Grenade, à dos d'âne, mais comme j'aime les animaux, cette solution ne me ravit pas non plus.
A pieds ou à vélo, ça c'est une bonne idée, mais attention ça grimpe et ça prend du temps.
1 - En plus on ne vit pas en égoïste à se foutre de l'écologie pour gagner 5 euros et une demi-heure. (et l'essence n'est semble-t-il pas pris en compte)
L'essence est pris en compte dans mes calculs.
On ne gagne pas une demi-heure, mais une journée entière.
Normal, quand il faut 5h30 aller-retour, en bus, on ne peut pas le faire dans la journée, et il faut ajouter une nuit d'hotel.
Alors qu'en voiture, on peut parfaitement passer la journée à Grenade, tous les habitants de Malaga le font, mais qu'est-ce que vous connaissez des habitants du coin ?
2 - Et quelle idée de partir en vacances pour chercher à gagner du temps à tout prix......gagner du temps sur quoi ?
Quand on travaille, on a pas 12 mois de vacances par an, si c'est votre cas, alors tant mieux pour vous.
3 - Et le temps pour faire les papiers pour louer la voiture ?
Ah oui, 5 minutes c'est grave.
Et le temps à aller à la station d'autobus, avec ses bagages, sous une chaleur de plomb et ensuite, attendre le bus, puis traverser la ville à nouveau ?
4 - Et le stress pour trouver l'endroit où il faut la rendre.
Ah bon ? Quel stress ? Quand je prends une voiture à un endroit, je peux la rendre au même endroit, ou alors, j'ai une case de moins.
Et chercher les arrêts d'autobus, les horaires de bus, les lignes de bus, c'est pas stressant peut-être ?
5 - Et le parking gratuit du Palais des Congrès, il faut le trouver, est ce que c'est plus pratique ?
Avec nos téléphones, nous avons des applications gratuites qui font GPS : "HERE", "WAZE" etc...
Donc, je ne vois pas où est le problème pour trouver le Palais des Congrès qui n'est pas un endroit inconnu à Grenade.
Il est indiqué sur toutes les cartes, tous les panneaux, tous les GPS.
6 - Et je maintient que c'est scandaleux de nos jours de vouloir absolument dissuader les gens déterminés à prendre les transports en communs
Je ne cherche pas à dissuader, "j'informe" simplement les gens qui peuvent penser que louer une voiture coûte plus cher que les transports en commun, alors que c'est exactement le contraire.
Après chacun fait comme il veut.
Moi, je viens pas vous emmerder, je ne passe pas mon temps à vous faire la morale.
Alors, oui, donnez votre avis, mais ici ce n'est pas un forum politique.
Merci d'en tenir compte. et de rester courtois.
Vous pouvez écrire "moi, je préfère les transport en commun, car c'est plus écologique" et ne pas fustiger les autres intervenants qui informent.
Bon week-end
Ski-Addict
Le véritable voyage ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux
(M. Proust)
Je n'ai pas le permis donc pas de voiture 😉 Donc je dois me décider pour le bus ou le train 😎
Merci Rhume pour tes conseils. 15€ pour moi c'est correct, j'ai vu pire comme prix
Hola Anne 😉
La liaison directe entre Malaga et Granada en train n'existe pas, tu dois t'arrêter à Antequera avec beaucoup d'attente.
Le bus -dans ce cas- s'avère être la meilleure solution. Le voyage est de l'ordre de 1h30 à 1h45 et coûte aux environs de 14 euros. Tu trouveras les horaires et les prix sur alsa.es
Le bus qui relie Malaga à Grenade ne s'arrête pas en centre-ville de Grenade, mais dans les faubourgs.
Il faut donc attendre, et prendre un deuxième bus pour aller dans le centre.
Par conséquent, le temps de trajet est plus long que 1h45.
Bonne journée
Ski-Addict
Le véritable voyage ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux
(M. Proust)
Je répondais pour un choix entre le train et le bus ... A Antequera, avec le train, il faut parfois attendre entre 3 et 5 heures, alors que le bus est direct entre Malaga et Granada. Le trajet en bus met entre 1h30 et 2h, donc 1h45 est aussi une moyenne 😉
Depuis fin mars 2017, il y a le tram à Granada avec un arrêt à la Estacion de autobus 😛
On est pas tous fait du même bois.
Le trajet de la gare de bus au centre ville de Grenade se fait aussi aisément à pied, surtout que ça descend tout le long.
La conception du temps est aussi différente pour chacun d'entre nous, et nous ne faisons sans doute pas les mêmes choses sur les mêmes lieux.
De mon trajet à pied de la gare routière au centre ville, je garderai un bon souvenir.
Merci pour vos réponses à débat😎 Concernant l'attente, je dois bien reconnaitre que je n'ai guère de patience (vacances ou pas !!) Perso si je dois attendre plus de 45 minutes mon train autant rester à Paris !!!
Marcher ne me pose aucun soucis, j'aime bien à condition qu'il ne fasse pas trop chaud. Je vais donc surement opter pour le bus car si j'ai bien compris vos discussions, c'est la meilleure solution !!
Ca doit être un côté latin (le débat passionné) quand notre coeur bat pour l'Andalousie.
Mais Fabrice ou Genal pourraient nous éclairer là dessus, est-ce que les andalous s'engueulent comme en France ?
Car dans ma maigre expérience de ces endroits, je n'ai vu que des gens très zen.
(pour la marche à Grenade, il vaut quand même mieux regarder avant sur google map pour se faire une idée...ça doit bien faire 1/2 h, car j'aime vraiment marcher, et en tout cas, je préfère toujours ça que d'attendre le bus ou le tram 10 mn)
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Voyager en train › France › Paris - Île de France / Espagne · 5 replies
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Here’s our itinerary:
Paris
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Aix-les-Bains (with day trips to Annecy and Geneva)
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Back to Paris
Do you think this itinerary is well-balanced? Any tips, must-see spots, or mistakes to avoid for a first-time visit?
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Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used?
Thanks in advance!
Charlie
I’m planning a family trip in a year. Our goal: traveling to China (and maybe Hong Kong) by train.
I’m all set with the route up to eastern Turkey.
However, I’m just starting my research for the rest of the journey—namely the Caucasus (no trains as far as I know, so buses and/or ferries), then Central Asia and China.
So, I’d love to hear any info or tips (general and forward-looking at this stage) about the train route through Central Asia and China to reach the east coast.
I’m particularly interested in details on:
- How far in advance to book / any potential difficulties with reservations
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- Day trains vs. night trains (the latter option lets you explore cities between two legs of the journey)
- A rough idea of ticket costs
...
A huge thank you to anyone who can share some info or experiences. It’s also a great opportunity to chat about adventure after (way too) many years away from this forum.
I’m planning a trip around Italy using only trains or public transport in October (hoping the weather stays nice!).
I’d obviously like to see some tourist destinations, but I also want to get off the beaten path a bit, and I’m hoping to find some help here? I don’t plan to linger too long in the cities.
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Hi there,
I’ll be traveling to Japan this coming August. We’ve finalized our itinerary and booked our flight tickets. Now I’m at the stage of buying train tickets for the few segments we’ll need to cover:
Tokyo - Hakone
Hakone - Kyoto
Kyoto - Osaka
Osaka - Tokyo
Here are my questions:
a) Is it possible to buy train tickets for these segments from Canada?
b) If so, which website should I use to do this?
c) And if it is possible, will we be able to print our tickets from Canada?
d) If it’s not possible, where in Tokyo should I go to buy these tickets when I arrive?
Hi everyone, I wanted to take the Paris-Berlin overnight train with a sleeper berth, the new service operated by European Sleepers.
24/05/2026 17:45 Paris-Nord (actually 16:00 from Paris Bercy Seine) -> 25/05/2026 9:59 (actually 7:30 in Berlin)
05/06/2026 18:31 Berlin (actually 20:00) -> 06/06/2026 10:00 Paris Nord (actually 12:30)
Part of the journey was operated by bus instead of the promised overnight train.
For 2 people: 340 € round trip
A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord.
2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord.
3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus.
4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones.
5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey.
6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee).
7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced.
8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day.
9) The overnight train arrived at Berlin station with a 30-minute delay on top of its initial delay (scheduled for 6:31 PM, then 7:30 PM, finally arriving at 8:00 PM). The heating was blasting in the compartment with no way to turn it off. No functional toilets in the carriage. From that point on, customer service stopped responding to my messages.
10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège.
11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM.
12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus.
13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time.
14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
I have little hope of getting even a partial refund. Customer service emails acknowledge the discomfort but only offer to reimburse the cost of a coffee on board if we send them the receipt... a bit weak.
I’m sharing this experience in the hope it might help others.
Hi there,
I’d like to take the Train of the Clouds from Lima to Huancayo.
I’ve heard it only runs during certain periods.
Does anyone have info on this?
Thanks!
HuancayoHuancayo
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I’ve put together a very quick (about 5-minute) and completely anonymous questionnaire. Your answers will help me better understand users' expectations regarding pricing, frequency, and environmental impact.
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Hello,
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Do you know how I can book this remotely?
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Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
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Hi there,
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Hi there,
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I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient).
But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this?
We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help,
and have a great Sunday!
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