ca y'est on est sur le depart (lundi ) et on a encore une grosse hésitation sur l'anti palu !!
mon medecin m'a prescrit de la savarine et le medecin de ma collegue de la malarone !!!
j'ai toujours entendu dire que le malarone étant moins bien toléré que la savarine est ce exacte ?
voici notre itineraire : jakarta, yogyjarkarta, bromo, bali et gili
a l'aide !!! il faut qu'on achete ca demain ca urge
Pour Bali, pas besoin de traitement.
Pour Java, savarine ou malarone peuvent être prescrits.
Les effets secondaires sont très variables selon les individus, il n'y pas plus d'intolérance à l'un ou l'autre.
Pour info, voici un extrait du très intéressant site du CHU de Rouen (Java fait partie du groupe II):
Séjour dans un pays du groupe II : la prophylaxie repose sur l'association de chloroquine 100 mg (ex:Nivaquine®) et proguanil 200 mg (ex: Paludrine®), se présentant aussi sous une nouvelle forme commerciale associant les deux produits: Savarine® pour les adultes pesant plus de 45 kg. (traitement journalier commencé 4 à 5 jours avant l'exposition au risque de paludisme, et poursuivi pendant 4 semaines après le retour). En alternative à chloroquine + proguanil, il est possible d'utiliser préventivement : une association d'atovaquone 250 mg et de proguanil 100 mg (ex: Malarone®). L'association d'atovaquone et de proguanil doit être débuter la veille du départ prise une fois par jour au cours d'un repas (ou à l'occasion d'une prise d'aliment lactée) et poursuivie tout le séjour, plus 7 jours au retour/citation]
L'arrêter immédiatement, de nombreux touristes ont vu leur voyage gâché par les effets secondaires d'un traitement préventif anti-palu.
Personnellement, je n'en prendrais pas pour Java.
Traitement préventif ou pas, il faut de toutes façons se protéger au maximum des piqûres de moustiques, vecteurs de bien d'autres maladies que le paludisme. Il ne faut pas non plus s'inquiéter exagérément, mais faire rapidement des examens en cas de symptômes grippaux (quoique on puisse aussi avoir une grippe, ça m'est arrivé en Thaïlande).
.... ca y'est on est sur le depart (lundi ) et on a encore une grosse hésitation sur l'anti palu !!
Un peu tard pour se renseigner a un service spécialisé
... pour un mm voyage avec Lombok (en balnéaire) a la place de Gilli en mai .... rien pris sur recommandation très claire d'un sercice medecine specialisé ! mais avec précautions "mécaniques" car ton mode de voyage a bcp d'importance, si tu es en camping pres des rizieres ou en hotels avec clim et/ou moustiquaires efficaces c'est très different
... par contre attention a la dengue tres presente dans ces regions
... le pbl est comme evoqué celui des effets seconadires des traitements anti-palu et le fait que bcp sous pretexte d'avoir pris son "ptit medoc" ne font plus attention apres!
... donc a toi de voir ! je ne fais que rapporter mon experience dans un cas tres voisin !
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Je pars en Indonésie cet été également. Je fais Java et Bali.
Je ne prends rien comme traitement paludéen, comme je n'avais non plus rien pris pour 3 semaines en guyanne.
Pourquoi ?
Pour moi les inconvénients du traitement sont beaucoup trop lourd, 2 personnes de mon entourage ont déprimé à cause du traitement et on dû arrêté, d'autres ont une des problèmes intestinaux et coincés à l'hotel pendant plusieurs jours (sénégal).
De plus les traitements paludéens ne protègent pas contre le mal mais atténue les effets si on le contracte.
J'ai un amis qui part régulièrement travailler au Brésil en pleine jungle amazonienne, il ne prend jamais rien, pour toutes les raisons citées plus haut. Le palu n'est plus une maladie mortelle dans les pays riches et le traitement est très cher pour beaucoup d'inconvéniant.
Je ne dis pas que je pars moi-même l'esprit tranquille, mais avec un minimum de protection : pantalon long, manche longue, spray, ne pas trainer près d'un étang à la tombée de la nuit, préférer dormir dans les villes. On fait baisser les risques qui existent toujours. Je ne connais pas les stats mais il est fort possible d'avoir plus de chance d'être victime d'un accident de la circulation en indonésie que de contracter le palu.
ca y'est j'ai finalement opté pour la savarine, on verra bien et puis si je ressens des effets secondaires j'arreterai
je prends egalement spray 5/5 et spray vetement repuls insecte, je pense qu'avec ca on devrait etre tranquille
Je prends connaissance de ce massage tardivement, et je voulais juste préciser que l'Indonésie est en groupe III et non en groupe II (sauf Bali, naturellement, puisqu'il n'y a pas de palu là-bas) . Voici la dernière publication sur le sujet :
http://www.invs.sante.fr/beh/2010/21_22/beh_21_22_2010.pdf
page 234 et suivantes ...
Donc c'est la Malarone et non la Savarine qu'il faut prendre pour se prémunir.
Il semblerait que le site du CHU de Rouen n'a pas noté les mises à jour 2010 de l'OMS. Je dirais même qu'il n'a pas non plus fait les rectifications de 2009 (par exempels, le Mali et le Burkina étaient en groupe III déjà en 2009, alors que le site les note toujours en II. Je ne me souviens pas pour l'Indonésie)
Après la liste des pays, on trouve un article sur les pays à "situation complexe selon les régions" : l'Indonésie est mentionnée, mais ce qu'il en est dit n'est pas très contributif, je trouve, et l'avis d'un service spécialisé aurait été interessant, sachant que vous allez être en hiver là-bas.
Bonnes vacances
Je pars egalement en indonesie ce dimanche. Qu'as tu pensé du traitement savarine? J'hesite aussi entre le malarone et savarine. (sachant que je suis migraineuse)
Quel est ton retour d'experience sur la savarine?
Je pars egalement en indonesie ce dimanche. Qu'as tu pensé du traitement savarine? J'hesite aussi entre le malarone et savarine. (sachant que je suis migraineuse)
Quel est ton retour d'experience sur la savarine?
merci d; avance,
(itineraire : java et bali)
En as-tu vraiment besoin ?
Aucun risque dans les villes de
Java et de Sumatra, ni dans les centres de villégiature de Java
ou de Bali. Remarque : La transmission survient surtout dans les
régions rurales non fréquentées par la plupart des touristes. Il
existe un risque au complexe des temples de Borobudur dans
l'île de Java.
Oui, pas de risques a Jakarta mais nous serons ensuite dans les zones rurales de Java. Ce qui m'interesse c'est de connaitre quel traitement est le mieux supporté.
Moi j'ai pris la savarine et aucun probleme pas d'effet secondaire, mon amie a prit la malarone est idem aucun soucis
La prochaine fois je choisirais peut etre la malarone car le traitement est moins long
On a surtout prit le traitement pour Java car à Bali il n'y a pas de risque
Mon medecin m'a conseillé la savarine qui est en principe mieux toléré que Malarone
Apres je pense que cela depend des tolerances de chacun
la seule chose c'est que le traitement de la savarine est bien plus long
mon amie qui avait la malarone a arreté le traitement quelques jours après etre arrivée sur Bali (pas besoin de traitement sur Bali) alors que moi j'ai du continuer encore 4 semaines apres notre retour
Oui, pas de risques a Jakarta mais nous serons ensuite dans les zones rurales de Java. Ce qui m'interesse c'est de connaitre quel traitement est le mieux supporté.
Merci d'avance,
Va voir ton médecin alors.
Enfin je ne m'y connais pas spécifiquement, mais si tu prends des médocs pour les migraines et qu'il y a (hypothétiquement) des interactions déconseillées entre ces médocs et un médoc anti-palu, ça ajoute une raison pour aller voir le doc'.
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