Maroc authentique
by Tiznit
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Pour moi, le vrai Maroc, ce n'est pas Marrakech, Essaouira, Ouarzazate, etc...pièges à touristes....mais bien les douars perdus dans les montagnes de l'Atlas avec leur population de vrais bèrbères, des gens authentiques, souriants, chaleureux, un peu craintifs, et curieux à la fois;c'est ça le vrai Maroc qu'il faut visiter😎😎😎
Le Maroc athentique, ce n'est pas non plus cette horde de campings cars, qui ont investi chaque recoin de la cote, raboté chaque dune, vidangé n'importe où, ceux qui ont connu Taghazout il y a 20 ans ont connu l'authentique, qu'en reste t'il?
On ne peut plus prendre une photo d'un lac de montagne, comme à Imilchil, sans cube en plastique.
Vous avez un outil formidable, le gachez pas! Le Camping car, lié aux nouveaux goudrons, vous permet de vous enfoncer dans l'Atlas, mais pas de provoc, ces gens 'souriants, chaleureux, et un peu craintifs' (citation) peuvent changer devant l'étalage de richesse.
Excusez moi mais je n'ai pas encore digéré le spectacle de 2 couples, la soixantaine, en maillots de bain, auvent déroulé, musique à fond et glacière et bières bien en vue, devant le souk d'Asni, village encore authentique.
Vous avez un outil formidable, le gachez pas! Le Camping car, lié aux nouveaux goudrons, vous permet de vous enfoncer dans l'Atlas, mais pas de provoc, ces gens 'souriants, chaleureux, et un peu craintifs' (citation) peuvent changer devant l'étalage de richesse.
Excusez moi mais je n'ai pas encore digéré le spectacle de 2 couples, la soixantaine, en maillots de bain, auvent déroulé, musique à fond et glacière et bières bien en vue, devant le souk d'Asni, village encore authentique.
je ne suis pas d'accord!
le Maroc authentique il est dans chaque habitant, du moment ou tu t'interesse un peu a eux tu peux le decouvrir, il faut juste ne pas se limiter aux visites touristiques .
bonjouren reponse, un exemple : ouarzazate, etait un trou perdu il y a vingt ans.................on pouvait le qualifié d'authentique....pour nous europeens peut etre....les gens crevait de faims......grace aux "piege a touriste" ca s'est developpé et grace a nous...touristes, les marocains de cette regions vivent mieux......heureusement
le tourisme n'a pas que des mauvais cotés.....
esperons que ce sera le cas pour tout le reste de ces regions plus tard......
en ce qui me concerne, je prefere voir de superbe paysages, que de savoir que des enfants vivent dans de miserables cahutes, les prendre en photo avec mon dernier appareil numerique et les admirer dans mon beau canapé une fois rentré.
ceci dit, je suis en parti d'accord pour le reste.......
le tourisme n'a pas que des mauvais cotés.....
esperons que ce sera le cas pour tout le reste de ces regions plus tard......
en ce qui me concerne, je prefere voir de superbe paysages, que de savoir que des enfants vivent dans de miserables cahutes, les prendre en photo avec mon dernier appareil numerique et les admirer dans mon beau canapé une fois rentré.
ceci dit, je suis en parti d'accord pour le reste.......
Jacqlem,
Ouarzazate n'a jamais été authentique, à part la petite kasbah et encore elle est récente, c'est une ville crée autour des casernes de l'armée francaise.
Il y a 20 ans Ouarzazate était en plein boom du cinéma, les tournages se succédaient, des gens de Marrakech, de Casa, d'Agadir, et d'ailleurs, ne pensaient qu'à s'y faire une place et affluaient. La plupart des grands hotels éxistaient déja. et à partir de la on a vu fleurir les bidonvilles des laissés pour compte, comme dans toutes les agglomérations ou les gens sont attirés par les lumières de la ville. cette pauvreté est nettement plus redoutable (nid de l'intégrisme et des frustrations) que celle apparente (selon nos critères) du paysan dans un village isolé du haut atlas qui vit parfois dans une maison rudimentaire, mais pas une misérable cahute comme aux périphéries des villes. Le tourisme a peut etre des élus, et c'est tant mieux, mais il reste encore beaucoup d'exclus y compris dans les lieux les plus visités.
Et avant le tourisme, les gens ne crevaient pas plus de faim que maintenant., la famille existait, la tribu existait, l'agriculture et le commerce existaient, .................. soyons modestes, c'est pas grace à nous européens si les gens vivent mieux. (certains vivent différemment, mais à mon avis, pas mieux !)
Ouarzazate n'a jamais été authentique, à part la petite kasbah et encore elle est récente, c'est une ville crée autour des casernes de l'armée francaise.
Il y a 20 ans Ouarzazate était en plein boom du cinéma, les tournages se succédaient, des gens de Marrakech, de Casa, d'Agadir, et d'ailleurs, ne pensaient qu'à s'y faire une place et affluaient. La plupart des grands hotels éxistaient déja. et à partir de la on a vu fleurir les bidonvilles des laissés pour compte, comme dans toutes les agglomérations ou les gens sont attirés par les lumières de la ville. cette pauvreté est nettement plus redoutable (nid de l'intégrisme et des frustrations) que celle apparente (selon nos critères) du paysan dans un village isolé du haut atlas qui vit parfois dans une maison rudimentaire, mais pas une misérable cahute comme aux périphéries des villes. Le tourisme a peut etre des élus, et c'est tant mieux, mais il reste encore beaucoup d'exclus y compris dans les lieux les plus visités.
Et avant le tourisme, les gens ne crevaient pas plus de faim que maintenant., la famille existait, la tribu existait, l'agriculture et le commerce existaient, .................. soyons modestes, c'est pas grace à nous européens si les gens vivent mieux. (certains vivent différemment, mais à mon avis, pas mieux !)
Pour moi, le vrai Maroc, ce n'est pas Marrakech, Essaouira, Ouarzazate, etc...pièges à touristes....mais bien les douars perdus dans les montagnes de l'Atlas avec leur population de vrais bèrbères, des gens authentiques, souriants, chaleureux, un peu craintifs, et curieux à la fois;c'est ça le vrai Maroc qu'il faut visiter😎😎😎
entièrement d'accord avec toi mais bizarre pour qqn qui se déguise en homme bleue à la touriste belge dans les dunes de Merzouga.
entièrement d'accord avec toi mais bizarre pour qqn qui se déguise en homme bleue à la touriste belge dans les dunes de Merzouga.
Bonjour,
Le voyageur passe inévitablement par ces cités marocaines pour les visiter et rencontrer ses habitants qui sont également des gens authentiques, souriants et chaleureux. Un pays n'est pas fait de vrais ou faux gens. La découverte, l'enrichissement, l'émerveillement sont là où les uns s'ouvrent aux autres avec respect.
Le voyageur passe inévitablement par ces cités marocaines pour les visiter et rencontrer ses habitants qui sont également des gens authentiques, souriants et chaleureux. Un pays n'est pas fait de vrais ou faux gens. La découverte, l'enrichissement, l'émerveillement sont là où les uns s'ouvrent aux autres avec respect.
entre le tourisme de masse qui crée des revenus...surtout pour les plus gros (tours operators et chaines hôtelières, etc.) mais qui corrompt et ne respecte ni environnement ni cultures et modes de vie, et pas de tourisme du tout....il y a quand même maintenant quelque chose qui peut devenir très intéressant et qui commence à intéresser certains: un tourisme plus personnalisé, qui respecte le visiteur et celui qui l'accueille....le tourisme solidaire et équitable...plus proche des gens, plus humain....et qui rapporte à ceux qui sont le plus dans le besoin...et non le contraire!
ne l'oubliez pas!
ne l'oubliez pas!
salut Raoulx ayant parcouru pas mal de km au Maroc a pied, ouen 4x4 il est vrai que qu il est de plus plus dur de trouver des coins authentiques, d ailleurs je fus tres heureux de voir la plage blanche avant le projet de x milliers de lits, la route est deja terminee Guelmin plage blanche c est un vrai boulevard maintenant
QUand je lis que le tourisme fait vivre les locaux alors la c est vraiment beau a lire mais en realite c est tout autre .
Sur 100 europeens qui se rendent au Maroc combien d eux ont ils deja acheter des vivres sur le marche, combien d euux ont ete heberges chez l habitant, combien d eux ont vraiment mange une vrai tajine et je pourrais continuer .
QUand je vois defiler des bus entiers .............je fuis pour moi ce nest pas du tourisme .
En septembre 2004 nous avons relie Imilchil Tounfite a pied, je peux vs dire que mon fils de 14 ans a vecu de forts moment :une partie de foot avec les jeunes villageois au milieu de nule part cela s appelle de l authanticitee .
Manger des sardines grillees avec les pecheurs du port de Tarfaya, boire le the dans un poste militaire sur la plage reliant Laayoune a Tarfaya c est de l authanticitee, demander au chef du village de Tah la permission de remplir nos bidons d eau c est authentique et pour finir ensabler le patrol jusqu au chassis sur la plage et se faire pousser par des pecheurs qui arrivent de nulle part cela s appelle du savoir vivre .
Un autre probleme lie en partie au tourisme le deboisement des palmeraies personne n en parle et poutant cela se pratique tt les jours . cordialement
Un autre probleme lie en partie au tourisme le deboisement des palmeraies personne n en parle et poutant cela se pratique tt les jours . cordialement
Thierry & Angelika
http://voyagedumonde.oldiblog.com
j'habite au maroc a guelmim et ce n'est pas 800 campings cars aglutines mais cette année en hiver on en a compte 2000
donc c'est un vrai fléau
saliha et zineb
bonjour tiznit, je viens de m inscrire dans le groupe et je suis interesse pour aller au marroc a la fin de septembre, tu peux m indiquer ou dire que je dois visiter et comment faire la connexion pour les villes?
je vais partir de Montpellier, FRance
Merci de ta reponse
je vais partir de Montpellier, FRance
Merci de ta reponse
Tout depend de ce que l`on entend par ``authentique``...
Un marchand de tapis pour touristes c`est authentique !!
Bon blague a part, c`est vrai, que le voyageur un peu plus aventureux recherche avant tout est une certaine harmonie, un accord avec le paysage et les gens qui le peuple...Par exemple, rien de plus affreux qu`une horde de 4X4 qui debarque de nulle part alors que l`on est penard a discutailler avec un groupe de sarahouis au coin d`un puits !
ca casse un peu l`ambiance...mais bon a chacun son trip !
Mais d`une magniere generale, c`est loin des coins touristiques que l`on fait souvent de belles rencontres, authenthiques ds le sens ou l`on n`est pas percu comme un touriste, mais comme un voyageur authentique...justement.
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A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques







