Bus Casablanca-Essaouira
by Assia84
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour a tous
et pour commencer merci a tous ceux qui ont apporté des reponses relatives a lhuile d'argan.
maintenant, comment je me rend a essouira au depart de casablanca ?
par les cars CTM, supratours....je ne sais meme pas ou se trouve les gares.lol
alors encore un ptit effort svp,
ou se trouve les gares respectives? les tarifs? les horaires de depart?
le mieux serait que jaille très tot, parce ke je ne compte pas passer la nuit la bas.
merci encore et bon dimanche
Gare CTM, rue Léon l'Africain... tous les taxis connaissent.🙂
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je connait que ya un bus ctm a 5h de soir de casa 12h la nuit a essaouira si vpus voulez plus d'info d'essaouira avec plaisire 😉
welcom to essaouira
merci pour ton coup de main
mais jai di au depart de casablanca pour essaouira
merci
tu prends un taxi et tu lui demandes de te ramener a la gare des cars tu lui expliques que tu veux aller a essaouira il saura ou te ramener mais pour faire un aller retour sans dormir a essaouira c raide il faut peut etre que tu prennes la route la nuit pour arriver très tot a essaouira et repartir vers 21h je crois qu'il ya un car ctm qui part vers casa
Comme Raoulx l'a signalé, pas évident de faire l'aller retour...
Mais si tu veux, il y a un bus qui part de la gare routière (pas celle de la CTM), je ne reviens pas sur le nom de la compagnie (bus blancs) qui part vers 10 - 11h de Casa. Il arrive à Essaouira vers 16h. Le soir, un CTM quitte Essaouira vers 23 h, +- 6h du matin à Casa. Bon courage!
Mais si tu veux, il y a un bus qui part de la gare routière (pas celle de la CTM), je ne reviens pas sur le nom de la compagnie (bus blancs) qui part vers 10 - 11h de Casa. Il arrive à Essaouira vers 16h. Le soir, un CTM quitte Essaouira vers 23 h, +- 6h du matin à Casa. Bon courage!
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alors pour la CTM elle se trouve exactement a rue l'eon l'afriquain juste derriere l'hotel sheraton et l'hotel farah et ce que tu veux faire je l'ai dejà fait avec la ctm et c que les gens içi t'ont dejà conseillé mais c'est trop dure alors depart 23h casa avec l'autocars qui fait agadir en passant par essaouira de la CTM arrive a essaouira à 5h du mat car y'a 390 km faut compter entre 5 ou 6 h de route et retour avec le mm le depart essaouira a 21h le soir. mais pour l'huile d'argan je vous conseille vivement un vendeur tres reputé sur la route d'agadir! il se trouve entre chichawa et imintanout c un resto pour les routier patlin dans le nom est GWIDIR ON NE PEUX PAS LE RATTER Y4AS TJRS TROP DE CAMIONS STATTIONER DEVANT?ou si non le café des touriste a imintanuout vous demander BRAHIM le serveur, et vous lui dite que c le chasseur a la c15 qui t'envoie et il va te guider sans problem.
si vous voulez plus d'info voilà mon msn kossayRAJI@hotmail.com
bien venu à tous ceux qui desire avoir des infos sur le maroc ou pour des voyages en groupe ou en covoiturage.
bonjour.
tu peux faire ton petit voyage d'affaire en une journée à condition de prendre le bus la nuit.
pour ce, le bus pulman au quartier MAARIF desserve la ligne casa-agadir par la route côtière te déposera
à destination sans problème si ce n'est d'être là de bonne heure.
la matinée tu feras ce que tu auras à faire et tu rentreras l'aprés midi à casa soit par auto car directement ou à défaut tu prendras un grand taxi qui se remplit facilement pour joindre safi un autre pour el jadida avant de voir casa mais cette fois avec une autre option:le train.
à plus
tu peux faire ton petit voyage d'affaire en une journée à condition de prendre le bus la nuit.
pour ce, le bus pulman au quartier MAARIF desserve la ligne casa-agadir par la route côtière te déposera
à destination sans problème si ce n'est d'être là de bonne heure.
la matinée tu feras ce que tu auras à faire et tu rentreras l'aprés midi à casa soit par auto car directement ou à défaut tu prendras un grand taxi qui se remplit facilement pour joindre safi un autre pour el jadida avant de voir casa mais cette fois avec une autre option:le train.
à plus
Bonjour,
La derniere x j'ai essayé la compagnie de bus SICR qui est nettement moins chere que CTM et tres bien.
Ce bus se prend à la gare routiere de Casablanca.
Par contre, ca me parait difficile de faire A/R dans la journée mais pourquoi pas.
Pourquoi ne pas rester une soirée à Essaouira pour manger du poisson grillé?
La vieille ville vaut la peine de s'arreter au moins une soirée.
sylvia
Sache qu 'il y a 350 km entre Casa et Souira. mas pas d autoroute pour toute la distance. Par consequent en car tu en a pour 6h. Pour 90 dirhams "le pull man "depart du Maarif (pres des bus et de de la poste, pres charih el fourate, face grands taxi) depart a 21h arrivée a Souira à 3heures du mat. Idem pour le retour SOUIRA Casa : minuit à 6h du mat meme tarif. Il y a aussi la CTM depart à 8 h du mat de Casa arrivée à 14h pour 80 dirhams je crois. je suis sur de mes info pour le pull man c'est ce que je fais depuis des années. C'est le plus sur et surtt confortable. Sans compter que c'est fiable au niveau securité, bagages et horaires). il fait qq arrets sur la route comme el jadida et Safi.
Sinon tu peux aussi faire Casa MArrakech en train 2h (confortable et climatisé). et à la gare ferroviaire de MArrakech prendre le supratour (60 dirhams) pour souira qui est en correspondance avec le train (c'est sur place et en correspondance horaire, donc pas de galere de bagages, de taxi, d'attente...) c nikel, ca te fais en tt 5 h de route au lieu de 6. mais c un peu plus cher. qd tu achete le billet de train tu peux acheter le billet de supratour en mm temps, c'est fais expres 120 dh le tout (train + bus) comme ca tu bloques tes places et c bon. je n'ai plus les horaires de train mais je sais que les supratours de marrakech partent à 11h, 15h 19h pour Souira y en a plus en periode d ete et festival gnaoua (juin).
Pour la journee ce sera crevant mais tu peux prendre la CTM du matin et retour avec le supratour de minuit.
Les grands taxis de marrakech font 600 dhs pour Souira. A toi de voir si tu prends le taxi seule (600)dhs ou si tu attends kil trouve d autres passagers pour partager la note. De Casa ca se fait aussi mais c plus loin ca doit faire du 1000 dhs le taxi complet je pense mais je ne peux pas t en dire plus je l ai jamais fais. A la gare de Souira il y a des taxis ttes la nuit mm si tu arrives avec le pullman de 3h du mat.
Je te deconseille de prendre les cars de la gare routiere OULED ZIANE à Casa niveau ponctualité (+10h de route !!!!!!!!), securité et confort (siege et mecanique, vitesse, depassement, queue de poisson...) sans parler des arrets perpetuels sur la route pour ramasser des passagers en route ou en deposer entre les douars... C'est horrible. La plupart de ces cars pourris prennent 60 dhs ca vaut pas le coup. surtt par la chaleur de l ete (la clim c'est quoi?) SUPRATOUR SOUIRA 044475317 SUPRATOUR MARRAKECH 044435525 CTM MARRAKECH 044448328 Voila pour tte info concernant Souira hesite pas c'est chez moi, je connais comme ma poche. Cordialement.
Sinon tu peux aussi faire Casa MArrakech en train 2h (confortable et climatisé). et à la gare ferroviaire de MArrakech prendre le supratour (60 dirhams) pour souira qui est en correspondance avec le train (c'est sur place et en correspondance horaire, donc pas de galere de bagages, de taxi, d'attente...) c nikel, ca te fais en tt 5 h de route au lieu de 6. mais c un peu plus cher. qd tu achete le billet de train tu peux acheter le billet de supratour en mm temps, c'est fais expres 120 dh le tout (train + bus) comme ca tu bloques tes places et c bon. je n'ai plus les horaires de train mais je sais que les supratours de marrakech partent à 11h, 15h 19h pour Souira y en a plus en periode d ete et festival gnaoua (juin).
Pour la journee ce sera crevant mais tu peux prendre la CTM du matin et retour avec le supratour de minuit.
Les grands taxis de marrakech font 600 dhs pour Souira. A toi de voir si tu prends le taxi seule (600)dhs ou si tu attends kil trouve d autres passagers pour partager la note. De Casa ca se fait aussi mais c plus loin ca doit faire du 1000 dhs le taxi complet je pense mais je ne peux pas t en dire plus je l ai jamais fais. A la gare de Souira il y a des taxis ttes la nuit mm si tu arrives avec le pullman de 3h du mat.
Je te deconseille de prendre les cars de la gare routiere OULED ZIANE à Casa niveau ponctualité (+10h de route !!!!!!!!), securité et confort (siege et mecanique, vitesse, depassement, queue de poisson...) sans parler des arrets perpetuels sur la route pour ramasser des passagers en route ou en deposer entre les douars... C'est horrible. La plupart de ces cars pourris prennent 60 dhs ca vaut pas le coup. surtt par la chaleur de l ete (la clim c'est quoi?) SUPRATOUR SOUIRA 044475317 SUPRATOUR MARRAKECH 044435525 CTM MARRAKECH 044448328 Voila pour tte info concernant Souira hesite pas c'est chez moi, je connais comme ma poche. Cordialement.
Laam.
desole j'ai le souvenir d un voyage assez agreable et rapide. 2h30 tout au plus. J'ai du me croire dans le tgv effectivement.
Laam.
bsr
est ce que je peux acheter mon billet a casa pour marrakech essouira ou bien sur place a marrakech j'achete mon billet, je veux faire casa -marrakech par train et marrakech souira en bus climatisé
desole j'ai le souvenir d un voyage assez agreable et rapide. 2h30 tout au plus. J'ai du me croire dans le tgv effectivement.
ta montre a du tomber en panne!
ou à moins que tu l'as poussé par derriere
ta montre a du tomber en panne!

ou à moins que tu l'as poussé par derriere
Bonsoir,
Au guichet, à la gare ferrovière, au moment de prendre ton billet pour Marrakech, tu demandes la correspondance pour Essaouira (si tu ne comptes pas t'arrêter à Marrakech). Sinon, tu le fais une fois arrivée à Marrakech. Il y a un premier train depuis Casa-Voyageurs à 4h50 puis toutes les deux heures jusqu'à 20h50, le dernier. Durée du trajet 3h15, prix en 2ème classe 84 dhs, en 1ère 125.
5 bus Sopratour pour Essaouira (8h30, 10h45, 14h45, 17h, 18h45). Durée du trajet 2h30, prix 65 dhs.
bjr
merci pour tes informations concernat le train autre chose, pour l'hebergement est ce que je peux trouver facilement un hotel le jour de mon arrivée ou bien je dois reserve d'avance, (je ne possede pas une carte de credit pour faire ma reservation par internet) et combien ça coute une nuiteé dans un hotel 3 ou 2 etoile a peu pré merci d'avance
Bonjour,
Si c'est pendant la période du festival, il te sera compliqué de trouver un hôtel, auquel cas, tu pourras opter pour l'option "appartement meublé" ou "chez l'habitant" (la moitié des habitants d'Essaouira louent leurs appartement pendant cette semaine)
Les prix des 2-3 étoiles au Maroc varie entre 250 dhs et 400 dhs la chambre double avec petit déjeuner.
bsr
je te remercie infinement pour tes amples informations, le festival debute a quell date, comment je peux ces gens qui louent leur appartement et est ce qu'ils louens des chambres ou bien leur apprtement entier et a quel pris et aussi ces gens sont de confiance que je laisse mes bagages
merci d'avances
merci d'avances
Ca peut aller de la simple pièce à tout l'appartement. Tu trouveras plein de rabatteurs à ton arrivée à la gare routière pour t'en proposer. Nous n'avons jamais eu de problèmes de vol (mais ça ne veut pas dire que ça n'existe pas)
Le festival se déroule la dernière semaine de juin.
Si tu veux le numéro d'une personne chez qui nous avons loué, je te le passe en MP.
re
moi je serai là ba les enviros du 05 ou 6 aout mon email tarekdj@hotmail.com merci
Par contre, 1 an pour répondre à unmessage, c'est plutot lent !!

ton calendrier a du tomber en panne 
eh oui mon calendrier VF a qques problemes!


ton calendrier a du tomber en panne 
eh oui mon calendrier VF a qques problemes!

Bonjour,
moi aussi ça m'intéresse, si c'était une bonne adresse...je serai là-bas le 16 aoûtsi c'était une bonne adresse...et tu as payé combien???
Tu peux m'evoyer un mp s'il te plaît paul.istasse@yahoo.fr
sinon, tout bon plan, activités à faire à Esaouira m'intéresse aussi si l'un de vous à de bons tuyaus...
moi aussi ça m'intéresse, si c'était une bonne adresse...je serai là-bas le 16 aoûtsi c'était une bonne adresse...et tu as payé combien???
Tu peux m'evoyer un mp s'il te plaît paul.istasse@yahoo.fr
sinon, tout bon plan, activités à faire à Esaouira m'intéresse aussi si l'un de vous à de bons tuyaus...
Ca peut aller de la simple pièce à tout l'appartement. Tu trouveras plein de rabatteurs à ton arrivée à la gare routière pour t'en proposer. Nous n'avons jamais eu de problèmes de vol (mais ça ne veut pas dire que ça n'existe pas)
Le festival se déroule la dernière semaine de juin.
Si tu veux le numéro d'une personne chez qui nous avons loué, je te le passe en MP.
Bonjour,
moi aussi ça m'intéresse, est-ce que tu peux m'envoyer les coordonnées sur mon mail paul.istasse@yahoo.fr
merci,
paul
Bonjour,
moi aussi ça m'intéresse, est-ce que tu peux m'envoyer les coordonnées sur mon mail paul.istasse@yahoo.fr
merci,
paul
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!






