Marrakech vers Merzouga en décembre: location de voiture?
by Argi64
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour et merci à tous
Nous allons nous poser à Marrakech, le 20 déc, et voudrions partir vers Merzouga, en faisant un arrêt à Ait Ben Haddou, traverser Ouarzazate, aller dormir ds les dunes, et revenir par Goulmina, vu vos conseils sur le forum
Suis déjà allée à Merzouga, et à Chegaga par Mhamid en déc, et je sais que nous n'aurons pas très chaud, mais qu'importe,
Cette fois je pars avec mon fils de 6 ans, habitué aux randonnées pyrénéennes,
J'envisage de louer une voiture : vaut-il mieux le faire à Marrakech ou a Ouarzazate ? à votre avis
Merci de vos conseils
Salut le Biarrot (je le suis de naissance) Il vaut mieux que tu loues ta voiture a Marrakech ce sera plus simple .circuit = Ait Bennhaddou, Ouarzazate, Skoura , boulmane du dades (les gorges dades et Todra) Tinerirt , sur Rissani , Merzouga retour par Tazarine nekob Agdz , Ouarzazate .c'est ci dessous
http://campingcaraumaroc.blog4ever.com/blog/photo-369775.html
Bon voyage
bonsoir et merci
as tu une idée du nombre de kms que cela représente ?
possible sur trois jours ?
pas de difficulté pour passer le col sur la route de Marrakech vers Ouarzazate ,
merci de tes conseils
la biarrotte
salut toutes et tous : pour le kilometrage c est à peu pres 600KM ; je crois que 3jours ne suffisent pas ;
Le problème quand on a perdu ses lunettes c'est que l'on est obligé de les retrouver pour pouvoir les chercher."
Mieux vaut compter en temps et non en kms
Marrakech Ouarzazate = 4 heures
Ouarzazate Merzouga = 5 heures
Sans compter les arrêts pipi/repas/photos/bobos....
Au Maroc en moyenne on roule à 30 kms/h en ville et 60 kms/h en campagne.🙂
Au Maroc en moyenne on roule à 30 kms/h en ville et 60 kms/h en campagne.🙂
Mes photos sur Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums
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bonjour,
environ 500-600 km. Il faut compter une moyenne de 50km/h
comptez 2 jours pour l'aller, voire plus selon les arrêt-visites. Idem pour le retour.
Risque de neige sur les cols de la route Mkch-Ozz. Mais c'est généralement déblayé assez rapidement.
cordialement
cordialement
... là-bas si j'y suis...
Tout d'abord merci à tous pour vos réponses
Je lis et relis le forum, et je commence à y voir plus clair (enfin je crois !)
1 - arrivée Marak voiture loc départ 14H pour Ait Ben H, ou nous dormirons - 3H de route ? je croise les doigts pour que la neige ne soit pas là, 2 - fin de matinée départ pour Skoura, journée sur place, chez Slimani, et lendemain 9H départ Merzouga - 5H de route ? nuit bivouac, l'Oasis, 3 - fin de matinée, départ vers Tazzarine, et là difficile de faire un choix : Nuit à Tazzarine, ou Mezgarne ? on cherche du calme, 4 - départ et arrêt à Agdz 5 Retour Marrak
Dates du 20/12 au 24 ou 25 on peut se rajouter un jour, pensez vous qu'il y aura du monde ds le sud à cette époque ? que pensez-vous de l'itinéraire, j'ai zappé Goulmina 2 filles vieillissantes mais pas vieilles filles, et un enfant de 6 ans merci
vol Madrid-Marrakech (route depuis Biarritz) because le prix : 3 billets = 170 euros
Je lis et relis le forum, et je commence à y voir plus clair (enfin je crois !)
1 - arrivée Marak voiture loc départ 14H pour Ait Ben H, ou nous dormirons - 3H de route ? je croise les doigts pour que la neige ne soit pas là, 2 - fin de matinée départ pour Skoura, journée sur place, chez Slimani, et lendemain 9H départ Merzouga - 5H de route ? nuit bivouac, l'Oasis, 3 - fin de matinée, départ vers Tazzarine, et là difficile de faire un choix : Nuit à Tazzarine, ou Mezgarne ? on cherche du calme, 4 - départ et arrêt à Agdz 5 Retour Marrak
Dates du 20/12 au 24 ou 25 on peut se rajouter un jour, pensez vous qu'il y aura du monde ds le sud à cette époque ? que pensez-vous de l'itinéraire, j'ai zappé Goulmina 2 filles vieillissantes mais pas vieilles filles, et un enfant de 6 ans merci
vol Madrid-Marrakech (route depuis Biarritz) because le prix : 3 billets = 170 euros
Re salut .A Agdz un coin chouette ou dormir Casbah de la palmeraie (Gaelle une franco-marocaine ) super sympa . autre chose Madrid /Marrakech vol pas cher !!.Voir au départ de Bordeaux vol low cost nouvelle compagnie de air Maroc = Jet4you.com bons prix égalements A+André
merci de tes infos des Landes !!!
vol madrid marrak = 170 pour 3
vol bx marrak low cost = 390 euros par personne
donc mes calculs sont vite fait, même en rajoutant le trajet et le parking
bonne soirée
kasu les avions depuis madrid souvent les tarifs sont interressants a condition de voyager juste avec un petit sac apres les kgs de bagages en surplus sont facturés une fortune
bidai ona
askatasuna
ce que tu dis est vrai, mais tout est bien expliqué qd tu achetes ton billet, pas de surprise, et tu peux toujours aller à Parme mesurer ta valise de cabine avant le départ,
nous avons pris cette compagnie cet été pour aller à Marak, nikel
le vol était complet, personne n'a eu de souci de bagage,
merci de ta réponse
gau on
bonjour,
J1 : Marrakech-Aït Ben Haddou, c'est plutôt 4 que 3 heures, sauf si on s'arrête pas et selon la météo. et compte qu'en décembre, ce sont les journées les plus courtes donc il restera peu de temps pour visiter le Ksar, si la rivière est franchissable...
J2 : Pour Aït Ben Haddou-Skoura : 2 heures, en revanche, l'auberge Chez Talout est le must dans le quoi à mon sens pour le rapport qualité-prix.
J3 - J4 :Ensuite, tracer de Skoura à Merzouga en une fois ok, mais pas possible de visiter l'une des gorges (Roses, Dadès, Todghra) et d'enchaîner sur la nuit au bivouac. mieux vaut dormir à mi chemin dans l'une des nombreuses auberges, ou dormir à l'hotel à Merzouga le soir et faire la nuit en bivouac (qui ne sera pas très reposante) le lendemain.
J5 : pour le retour, Nkob est à mi chemin grossièrement, beaucoup plus petit que Agdz et très tranquille. zéro pression touristique, le choix entre plusieurs bonnes auberges à prix variables. je préfère Imdoukal personnellement. BahaBaha c'est bien aussi.
J6 : toujours le problème du Tichka qui peut être fermé en cas de fortes précipitations neigeuses, donc prévoir un plan bis avec escale avant Marrakech. Pas mal d'hébergement à Aït Benhaddou avant la montagne.
bon voyage
le Pays Dogon par Massina
Salut camarade tu as raison .pour le nom de la casbah(autant pour moi😄 mais pour Gaelle etant Francaise mariée a un Marocain est une Franco-marocaine. !!!! Beslama André Bonne apres midi
Bonjour,
* ** pour visiter le Ksar, si la rivière est franchissable.. **** une passerelle en béton défigure maintenant le site .... plus de problème de franchissement. Et dire que l'Unesco est censée protéger ce site ? A éviter , la nouvelle maison d'hotes dans la kasbah, accueil décevant.
Je confirme pour Skoura, Talout est un ton au dessus, mais dans les petits budgets Slimani est excellent , surtout depuis les nouvelles chambres dans la kasbah rénovée.
A cette époque, je rayerais Merzouga, et surtout la nuit dans le désert, c'est une vraie corvée ou on se les gèle dès 16 h dans le noir en attendant le repas.
Pour le retour, il y a les hébergements cités à N'kob, j'aime bien les 2, mais aussi à 7 km avant Agdz, à Tamnougalt, l'auberge Yacoub, dans le ksar. J'éviterais Caid Ali à Agdz , mauvaise expérience.
* ** pour visiter le Ksar, si la rivière est franchissable.. **** une passerelle en béton défigure maintenant le site .... plus de problème de franchissement. Et dire que l'Unesco est censée protéger ce site ? A éviter , la nouvelle maison d'hotes dans la kasbah, accueil décevant.
Je confirme pour Skoura, Talout est un ton au dessus, mais dans les petits budgets Slimani est excellent , surtout depuis les nouvelles chambres dans la kasbah rénovée.
A cette époque, je rayerais Merzouga, et surtout la nuit dans le désert, c'est une vraie corvée ou on se les gèle dès 16 h dans le noir en attendant le repas.
Pour le retour, il y a les hébergements cités à N'kob, j'aime bien les 2, mais aussi à 7 km avant Agdz, à Tamnougalt, l'auberge Yacoub, dans le ksar. J'éviterais Caid Ali à Agdz , mauvaise expérience.
Salam Raoulx
J'éviterais Caid Ali à Agdz , mauvaise expérience
Moi aussi 😉 J'ai cette adresse où je reviendrai sûrement: maison d'hôtes Tabhirte. Très bon rapport qualité/prix. Juste 3 chambres et le calme assuré.
J'éviterais Caid Ali à Agdz , mauvaise expérience
Moi aussi 😉 J'ai cette adresse où je reviendrai sûrement: maison d'hôtes Tabhirte. Très bon rapport qualité/prix. Juste 3 chambres et le calme assuré.
Mes photos sur Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums
"Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
La dernière fois que je suis parti au Maroc, j'ai loué une voiture que j'avais réservée par Internet sur ce site de tonus-cars.com dont le siège est à Agadir et qui met la voiture à ta disposition où tu veux.
C'était les mieux placés au niveau prix ; la voiture était impeccable et je n'ai pas eu de problème.
Bon voyage
Fred
Ben voilà j'hésitais beaucoup à faire toute cette route, et surtout celle de montagne autour de Ait Ben Haddou, et au vu de ton message je renonce, merci de tes conseils
Je vais opter pour la côte vers Agadir-Taroudant, en tenant compte de vos messages, puis Essaouira et retour Marrakech
Au passage as tu une idée de haltes entre Essaouira et Agadir ?
Merci encore
Myriam
Merci Raoulx, à quand le Raoulx des bons plans ? tu pourrais écrire un guide, ;;;
exit le projet désert, on va aller sur la côte Marrakech vers Agadir-Taroudant (pas trouvé coordonnées de l'hôtel Le Taroudant ???)
Peut-être un saut jusqu'à Tiznit, mais suis preneuse d'autres idées,
au vu de tes conseils j'ai acheté la 742 et le LP
peux tu m'en dire un peu plus sur la route dont tu parles entre Taroudant et Essaouira ? avec visite au rucher, cette route est-elle facile ? ou petite route étroite de montagne ?
encore merci
Myriam
Bonjour,
Voici les précisions pour accéder au rucher d'Inzerki : http://terriermichel.wordpress.com/rucher-dinzerki/
Voici les précisions pour accéder au rucher d'Inzerki : http://terriermichel.wordpress.com/rucher-dinzerki/
" Nous ne saurons jamais tout le bien qu'un simple sourire peut être capable de faire."
Mère Teresa
c'est sans doute plus sage à cette période de l'année. faudra revenir lors d'une saison plus clémente.
entre Essaouira et Agadir, je n'ai pas de bon plan hébergement, mais la côte redouble de petits villages et donc d'auberges. Agadir, jamais mis les pieds juste passé vite fait en voiture. même s'il faut avoir vu Essaouira et y passer au moins deux nuits, ça devient plus intéressant au Sud d'Agadir avec notamment le Parc Naturel de l'Oued Massa (oiseaux) et en direction de Aglou PLage, les cabanes de pêcheurs qui s'étendent le long de la côte sur des kilomètres.
Ensuite tu peux remonter un peu, rentrer dans les terres vers Tafraout, puis éventuellement Taroudant.
Pour revenir à Marrakech, il faudra plutôt reprendre l'autoroute en revenant vers Agadir que tenter le Tizi-n-Test, plus élevé, escarpé et incertain que le Tichka.
le Pays Dogon par Massina
Bonjour,
Effectivement, pas évident de recommander une adresse entre Agadir et Essaouira............. Par contre à Agadir, "Paradis Nomade" est un bon plan, tout comme "Riad El Aïssi" à Taroudant. Paradis Nomade se trouve exactement à 12 kms d'Agadir loin des "all inclusive" du front de mer. Petite précision : le Tizi N'test est plus escarpé et plus incertain que le Tichka, mais moins élevé 😉 @+
Effectivement, pas évident de recommander une adresse entre Agadir et Essaouira............. Par contre à Agadir, "Paradis Nomade" est un bon plan, tout comme "Riad El Aïssi" à Taroudant. Paradis Nomade se trouve exactement à 12 kms d'Agadir loin des "all inclusive" du front de mer. Petite précision : le Tizi N'test est plus escarpé et plus incertain que le Tichka, mais moins élevé 😉 @+
Bonjour,
Voila plus de 30 ans (avant son goudronnage) que je passe le Tizi n' Test plusieurs fois par an et en toute saison, jamais il ne m'a inquiété! tout bonnement splendide. à Taroudant , OK pour el Aissi, mais un peu excentré, j'ai une préférence pour dar Dzhara, en plein centre ville , moins de 100m de la place Assarag, et pour les petits budgets, l'hotel Taroudant , sur cette place (pas de site internet, mais charme désuet, et un des seuls endroits de la ville ou on peut manger une entrecote avec un verre ou une bouteille de vin)
Sur Agadir, à une dizaine de kms, pas loin du Paradis Nomade, sur la même route, j'ai visité Atlas Kasbah, qui semble une adresse sympa.
Voila plus de 30 ans (avant son goudronnage) que je passe le Tizi n' Test plusieurs fois par an et en toute saison, jamais il ne m'a inquiété! tout bonnement splendide. à Taroudant , OK pour el Aissi, mais un peu excentré, j'ai une préférence pour dar Dzhara, en plein centre ville , moins de 100m de la place Assarag, et pour les petits budgets, l'hotel Taroudant , sur cette place (pas de site internet, mais charme désuet, et un des seuls endroits de la ville ou on peut manger une entrecote avec un verre ou une bouteille de vin)
Sur Agadir, à une dizaine de kms, pas loin du Paradis Nomade, sur la même route, j'ai visité Atlas Kasbah, qui semble une adresse sympa.
Bonjour Raoulx,
Je confirme pour Dar Dzhara à Taroudant, excellente adresse dans la Médina bénéficiant d'une piscine, une vraie, et d'un superbe accueil !!! A Taroudant, l'hôtel éponyme (hum, hum) 😉 vaut vraiment le détour, rien ne doit avoir changé depuis des décennies, à part l'arbre géant du patio......... @+
Je confirme pour Dar Dzhara à Taroudant, excellente adresse dans la Médina bénéficiant d'une piscine, une vraie, et d'un superbe accueil !!! A Taroudant, l'hôtel éponyme (hum, hum) 😉 vaut vraiment le détour, rien ne doit avoir changé depuis des décennies, à part l'arbre géant du patio......... @+
Merci à tous de ces infos,
je vais noter vos adresses autour d'Agadir, et descendrais un peu au sud, car la ville ne me tente pas, puis Taroudant ou Tafraoute, fonction des kms, et boucle vers Essaouira (on s'en lasse pas, ben oui !)
Pour le Sahara je reverrai ça aux beaux jours, j'ai déjà fait Merzouga et Chegaga (en déc) mais seule, et là avec mon fils de 6 ans, ça va pas le faire
Merci encore de prendre sur votre temps pour donner toutes ces infos
Bon plan l'idée d'un verre de vin ( moi qui suis bordelaise, élevée au médoc)
Myriam
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I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
