Je suis allé en voiture en Chine depuis la France en 1996. A l'époque, il fallait payer 45 000 FF pour entrer en Chine avec son véhicule personnel. Nous l'avions donc laissé à la frontière...
Je souhaite retourner en Chine cet été. Savez-vous s'il faut toujours payer une taxe exorbitante pour entrer en Chine avec sa voiture personnelle, ou si c'est plus ouvert ?
1 - a une agence de voyage établie en Chine, de faire la demande d'immatriculation Chinoise du véhicule en (genre plaque TT, les francais comprendrons.)
2 – le permis de conduire traduit en Chinois.
3 - déposer l’itinéraire, en Chinois.
4 – l’objet de la démarche, en Chinois.
4 - louer les services d'un agent de voyage chinois résident de Chine, servant de guide durant tout le trajet 24/24h.
5 - caution variable apparemment suivant la douane ou tu passes
6 – Visa chinois
J'arrive toujours pas a comprendre quel besoin il y a venir avec sa caisse en Chine … 🤪
En septembre dernier, je suis rentré en Chine en moto, (j'ai fait venise-pékin), en passant par le kazakhstan, et sans débourser un centime à la douane, mais je ne peux pas t'assurer que ça serait passé avec une voiture..., c'était par le poste frontière de Druzba, au nord est d'Almaty, mais cela me laisse penser que la législation s'assouplit, ou est différente, tout au moins si on évite les points de passage "touristiques"
Chris
Et comment es-tu sorti de Chine ensuite ? es-tu reparti par voie terrestre en moto ? ou en avion sans la moto ? as-tu dû payer qq ch pour la moto en quittant le pays ?
je suis rentré en avion, manque de temps pour rentrer par la route et puis la période ne s'y prêtait plus... idem pour la moto, je l'ai mise en caisse, démontée et renvoyée depuis Pékin.
Difficile de la laisser sur place car j'avais un carnet de passage que j'avais utilisé uniquement pour l'iran à l'aller, sinon pas de taxes à l'entrée ni à la sortie, la moto était uniquement enregistrée sur mon formulaire de déclaration de douane à l'entrée et ils ne m'ont rien demandé à la sortie.
Néanmoins, je pense qu'il aurait été possible de la laisser sur place, rien sur mon passeport n'indiquait que j'étais rentré avec un véhicule, le tampon du passage de la frontière terrestre Druzba/Anasenko n'en faisait pas mention et cela n'a soulevé aucune question de la part des douaniers lors de mon départ.
Une agence à Almaty annonce qu'elle peut organiser un voyage sur les routes de la soie chinoise en ayant son propre véhicule, le prix annoncé tourne autour de 2200 USD pour 15 jours, mais cela semble négociable. Voici leur lien pour ce service particulier : .http://www.silkroadcn.com/horgos.htm
Ma recherche est en gros la même, mais pour 2008 (l'idée est de relier Albertville et Turin, villes des JO d'hiver 1992 et 2006) à Pékin où auront lieu les JO en 2008, en débutant le voyage par Athènes, berceau de l'olympisme. Le tout en voiture. Pour ne pas perdre de temps en formalités pendant le voyage, mieux vaut en accomplir le maximum avant, donc dès à présent... et effectivement l'entrée en Chine avec son propre véhicule semble être une des questions les plus compliquées administrativement et financièrement parlant.
Paradoxalement pour un pays aussi règlementé, la latitude d'appréciation des autorités locales paraît immense. Quelqu'un aurait-il une idée du point d'entrée (à l'ouest de la Chine forcément) le plus "cool"? Apparemment pas Torugart, où les formalités semblent très pointilleuses...
Khorgos (à l'est d'almaty) non, j'ai testé il y a 10 ans, ça n'est pas passé !
apparemment Druzba au nord-est d'almaty : il y a au moins 2 motards et 1 scooter (!) qui sont passés sans rien payer. Mais pas encore d'automobiliste à ma connaissance !
je confirme, ça ne passe toujours pas par khorgas, tous au moins sans assistance d'une (très chère) agence chinoise. mais par contre c'était ok par Druzba, j'y suis passé en moto cet été et ce qui est très encourageant c'est qu'une fois en Chine tu te déplaces sans problème.
Chris
Par la Torugart pass ou Irkeshtam, à mon sens c'est verrouillé par les agences, ils ont un super business et ils ne sont pas près de le laisser tomber 😕
Merci à tous... Apparemment ça reste très verrouillé pour les bagnoles. Reste à savoir s'il s'agit d'une règlementation policière ou juste d'un accord à portée économique avec des "agences de voyage" locales. Les motards sont-ils supposés être moins riches que les automobilistes? Ou alors les chinois considèrent-ils qu'on ne peut leur mettre personne sur le siège arrière? En tout cas ce qui est plutôt encourageant c'est qu'une fois en Chine, on a le droit de rouler et de conduire...
Il y aurait aussi par la Karakorum highway depuis le Pakistan, mais çà suppose au préalable de traverser l'Afghanistan et la Khyber pass, et ça ressemble un peu à se créer beaucoup de gros ennuis pour vouloir en éviter un moyen... Quelqu'un a-t-il des infos contraires?
Je crois que ce n'est pas une question de moyens entre motards et conducteurs de voitures, je m'étais fait refouler avec ma moto peu de temps auparavant à la Torugart Pass mais pour avoir essayé sans l'assistance d'une agence...
Je connais aussi le cas d'un motard qui est passé avec l'assistance d'une agence par Irkhestam et il avait un véhicule suiveur qui l'a accompagné sur la route jusqu'a Kashgar.
Au poste frontière de Druzba/Anasenko où je suis passé, mon sentiment est que ce cas de figure n'est tout simplement pas prévu !!! Ce poste de douane gère principalement un trafic de poids lourds et de trains, et les voitures particulières ne sont pas légion.
il n'y a aucun document d'importation temporaire prévu pour le véhicule, le carnet de passage en douane ne les intéresse pas et en fait la moto est rajoutée sur une déclaration de douane comme n'importe quel objet de valeur.
Comme au niveau réglementation, je ne vois pas les Chinois laisser les choses au hasard et ne pas appliquer partout la même règle (tout au moins dans la même province) ; alors ce n'est qu'un avis personnel bien sur, mais c'est qui m'amène à penser que les seules restrictions sont d'ordre "business" dans les endroits à forte fréquentation touristique... je pense que cela laisse beaucoup de chances d'y parvenir par d'autres endroits
Après au niveau liberté de circulation, je ne me suis fait refouler qu'une seule fois dans les montagnes au Xinjiang, je n'avais visiblement pas le permis nécessaire, mais ma présence ne les a pas surpris outre mesure, il m'ont juste renvoyé d'où je venais en m'expliquant que je n'avais rien à faire là !
Bonne chance à ceux qui vont essayer😉
Chris
😉 nous on va essayer fin juillet de rentrer en chine depuis la mongolie en vieille citroen ami 6.
Est-ce que quelqu'un a déja essayé depuis la Mongolie ?
Est-ce que c'est jouable comme depuis le Kazakhstan ou est-ce qu'il faut prendre un guide etc ...
Le seul hic que je voit, c'est que en chine pour conduire une moto il ne faut pas de permit (enfin c'est tolléré), mais pas pour la voiture, après chaqu'un à une chance de passé, avec un peut de bagou ...
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
ba en fait y a k au lancement de l AX y a quelques années qu'on pouvait voir une pub avec cette bonne vieille petite voiture rouge rouler sur la muraille, alors en Ami 6 pourquoi pas...
merci pour les infos, nous sommes au kazakhtsan a Almaty, nous rentrons en Mongolie le 5 juin pour 2 mois ensuite on improvise peut-etre la chine avec ou sans l'ami6
notre blog http://routedeleau.blog.com
En parlant d'AX ! En fait c'est bien avec une AX que nous avons pu entrer en Chine cet été ! Les autres marques de voitures sont-elles permises ? Je ne sais pas... J'ai suivi les conseils de Taklamakan en passant par Druzba et en étant seulement munis d'un carnet de passage pour le véhicule. Aucune taxe à payer.
Hi there,
I know there are similar topics here and elsewhere, but they’re a few years old, and I need an up-to-date answer to make sure I don’t throw over 1000 € out the window. Thanks for your patience.
I’m planning a trip from France to Alberta/British Columbia, and I’m unsure about which bank card to use for the security deposit with the rental company (I’m thinking of going with AVIS).
I contacted Avis Canada, and they told me a credit card is absolutely required. I asked my bank for a credit card (a *real* credit card), but they only offered me a deferred debit card.
My question: For a rental with Avis Canada, is a Gold International Mastercard deferred debit card usable for the security deposit needed to finalize the rental? Is the "CREDIT" label enough? (Some cards say "CREDIT" and others say "CARTE DE CREDIT"—seems minor, but it’s actually a big deal in how the card works.)
I’ve seen conflicting info everywhere I look... My bank says it’s *usually* okay (the deferred debit card), while Avis Canada insists it *must* be a credit card, not debit—even when I mention the deferred debit card.
I know the whole credit card concept is already confusing, and on top of that, some sites say a deferred debit card counts as a credit card, while others say it doesn’t.
Thanks to anyone who can share a recent experience!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’m heading to Senegal in January for a month and was wondering if I just need my French driver’s license or if I should get an international permit?
Thanks!
JL
Hi,
I’m bringing Seresta, an anxiolytic (tranquilizer) from the benzodiazepine family,
to help me sleep.
I’ll have the prescription with me.
Will this be a problem at customs, and do I need to declare it?
Same question for antibiotics?
Thanks a bunch!
I’m heading to Laos next spring, but I have a question about the Thai arrival/departure form. I’ll be flying PAR-BKK, then taking the train to Laos (so exiting Thailand), and later re-entering Thailand by train to catch my return flight. Do I need to fill out two forms in this case?
Hi there,
I have a 9-seater passenger vehicle that I use for my business in Paris, transporting people.
I’m planning to go to Algeria with my family.
The vehicle registration lists my company as the owner.
Can I get a TPD (Temporary Admission Document)?
Will I need a KBis extract or a power of attorney?!?
Thanks for your help.
Worst case, I can add my personal name as a co-owner on the registration, but that would be a real shame!
Hi,
I’m writing to ask for some info—I’ve heard that you **must** have travel insurance to land in Zanzibar.
What’s the process, and which insurance should I get?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Best,
Seb
Hi, are there any travelers who’ve recently crossed the border between Karakalpakstan (Uzbekistan) and Beineu in Kazakhstan?
It was closed for a while.
Thanks for any info!
I bought a one-way flight (Ryanair) and a return flight (EasyJet) to spend a week in Morocco in April.
My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date.
Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry.
However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht).
This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea?
Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast!
Cheers,
Bruno.
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident.
I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia.
For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France?
Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted.
Is this real or just a hoax?
Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received.
Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding?
Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival?
Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient?
Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month.
I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival?
How long do the formalities take on the spot?
Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay.
If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand,
do I need to submit a new TDAC application?
Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window.
The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days.
2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date.
If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period.
In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th.
The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.