Motel or RV in the American West?
by Thierry1961
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Hey everyone,
we’re heading to the American West for 21 days in August.
Two options for us:
renting a regular car and staying in motels, or going with an RV.
We’ve traveled a lot in Southern Africa on our own with a 4x4 roof-top tent, but the US is a whole different story.
I’d love to hear your thoughts—budget-wise, we’re probably looking at similar costs.
Thanks for your input!
Thierry
Hi Thierry,
Some friends who, like you and us, have their "spot" in Southern Africa just got back from a trip in the West. They rented a Jeep Wrangler with a rooftop tent (photo). This rental option is pretty new in the USA.
As for us, we’d really miss bivouacking, but that doesn’t stop us from mixing in motels. Here, like anywhere else, it’s still a great way to meet people. Spending the night outside in landscapes like that (Valley of the Gods, Utah) reminds us of… Africa ;)
If you go for an RV, opt for a camper van for better maneuverability.
Some friends who, like you and us, have their "spot" in Southern Africa just got back from a trip in the West. They rented a Jeep Wrangler with a rooftop tent (photo). This rental option is pretty new in the USA.
As for us, we’d really miss bivouacking, but that doesn’t stop us from mixing in motels. Here, like anywhere else, it’s still a great way to meet people. Spending the night outside in landscapes like that (Valley of the Gods, Utah) reminds us of… Africa ;)

If you go for an RV, opt for a camper van for better maneuverability.
Hi,
I think the RV option is more expensive (insurance, added cost of campsites, fuel, etc.) and doesn’t necessarily let you go everywhere (Death Valley is off-limits, for example).
How about a mix of car camping in the parks and motels elsewhere?
I think the RV option is more expensive (insurance, added cost of campsites, fuel, etc.) and doesn’t necessarily let you go everywhere (Death Valley is off-limits, for example).
How about a mix of car camping in the parks and motels elsewhere?
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Hi everyone,
we’re heading to the American West for 21 days in August.
Two options for us:
Rental car and motel or RV.
We’ve traveled a lot in Southern Africa independently with a 4x4 rooftop tent, but of course, it’s nothing like the USA.
I’d love your thoughts—budget-wise, we’re probably in the same ballpark.
Thanks for your feedback!
Thierry
Hello,
Car or RV? Only those who’ve tried it can give an "authorized" opinion...
But to help, you need to be more specific: 1) About the route (from where to where, and which parks and cities). 2) Who’s going—adults, kids, ages. 3) Any experience in other countries or regions DOESN’T apply to the USA. 4) YES, an RV is more expensive, but only by 5 to 10% overall (based on high season/3 weeks/4 people), but it’s a completely different way to travel!
You’ll find ALL the details on my USA blogs in my signature—the Grand West one is from 2009, so of course, costs need updating! Click everywhere there are files, and especially on the "annexes" tab for RVs, campgrounds, visits, and costs.
See you, Oh... Vénissieux—I worked there (and knew a Thierry!).
Hello,
Car or RV? Only those who’ve tried it can give an "authorized" opinion...
But to help, you need to be more specific: 1) About the route (from where to where, and which parks and cities). 2) Who’s going—adults, kids, ages. 3) Any experience in other countries or regions DOESN’T apply to the USA. 4) YES, an RV is more expensive, but only by 5 to 10% overall (based on high season/3 weeks/4 people), but it’s a completely different way to travel!
You’ll find ALL the details on my USA blogs in my signature—the Grand West one is from 2009, so of course, costs need updating! Click everywhere there are files, and especially on the "annexes" tab for RVs, campgrounds, visits, and costs.
See you, Oh... Vénissieux—I worked there (and knew a Thierry!).
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Hello,
It’s really easy to camp in the West—there are tons of spots in all the parks.
There are shared (dry) toilets and a barbecue at each site. Some also have water.
It’s paid (between $5 and $10), so it’s best to book on weekends and during peak season.
If you can’t find a vehicle with a roof-top tent, you can always use a regular tent, which would be cheaper than an RV. A night in a motel varies in price depending on the location and time—I just got back and paid between $60 and $120 per night.
It’s really easy to camp in the West—there are tons of spots in all the parks.
There are shared (dry) toilets and a barbecue at each site. Some also have water.
It’s paid (between $5 and $10), so it’s best to book on weekends and during peak season.
If you can’t find a vehicle with a roof-top tent, you can always use a regular tent, which would be cheaper than an RV. A night in a motel varies in price depending on the location and time—I just got back and paid between $60 and $120 per night.
Hello,
You can go to Death Valley in an RV. However, you must absolutely park overnight in a designated campground. I only know of one near Furnace Creek (Sunset Campground).
I stayed at this campground, which is pretty minimalist. Basically, there are just parking spots. $15 if I remember correctly.
That said, not all roads are suitable.
Also, following the recent floods, even fewer roads are open. Recently, the road to Badwater was closed, and the 20 Mule Team Drive was also closed.
I don’t know the current status...
Hello,
I’d really love to know who you rented the Jeep with a rooftop tent from if you have that info.
I’d really love to know who you rented the Jeep with a rooftop tent from if you have that info.
Hi there,
It all depends on what you're planning to do during your trip. For me, camping is ideal, but in August, expect it to be really hot in many places. However, when I say "camping," I mean a tent. RVs, in my opinion, aren’t suitable for many trails and end up costing more than staying in small hotels.
Another option is a pickup truck with a bed tent, but that won’t work if there are more than two of you.
So, it’d help to share a bit more about yourselves and your trip.
It all depends on what you're planning to do during your trip. For me, camping is ideal, but in August, expect it to be really hot in many places. However, when I say "camping," I mean a tent. RVs, in my opinion, aren’t suitable for many trails and end up costing more than staying in small hotels.
Another option is a pickup truck with a bed tent, but that won’t work if there are more than two of you.
So, it’d help to share a bit more about yourselves and your trip.
Hi Olive,
thanks for your feedback.
Well, yes—the rooftop is fine; we’ve been traveling around Africa like this for years, so we’re really comfortable with this kind of trip.
But for the USA and this particular journey, due to some specific reasons, our only options are an RV or motels. There are two of us on this trip, starting in LA and ending in Yellowstone over 21 days.
So for the cities, we’re covering LA/San Francisco/Las Vegas/Salt Lake City, plus Yosemite, Death Valley, Grand Canyon, Monument Valley, Grand Teton, and Yellowstone.
I was thinking a car and hotels might be a bit more suitable given our timeframe,
but an RV could be another adventure.
That’s a quick summary of my thoughts!
So, an RV might be a bit of a hassle in San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Las Vegas.
And in Death Valley, you’ll likely be *very* hot in August in an RV.
Otherwise, I admit that an RV is perfect for Yellowstone and Grand Teton. I camped at Colter Bay Campground for several nights—it was really nice and not too expensive compared to the price of a hotel.
Also, make sure to check the mileage, as it’s not always unlimited for RVs and minivans. Some agencies charge a lot for extra kilometers, and it can end up doubling the rental price. And it seems like you’ll be covering a lot of miles to get to Yellowstone.
You’ll really need to run the numbers for both scenarios to get a better idea.
My advice: Plan your itinerary and start estimating both options. Both have pros and cons. But I’d lean toward saying the best option is a hotel and a good car for the trip, which will be pretty long. And if you’re not afraid of driving, you could also stay a little farther away to save on the cost of hotels in Yellowstone and Grand Teton, which will be the most expensive on your route.
RVs are generally much less practical once you’re in cities. And you’ll have a harder time getting around given the number of miles you’ll be covering...
Personally, I live in my car most of the time—I rent a big car, and it works out great ;)
Otherwise, I admit that an RV is perfect for Yellowstone and Grand Teton. I camped at Colter Bay Campground for several nights—it was really nice and not too expensive compared to the price of a hotel.
Also, make sure to check the mileage, as it’s not always unlimited for RVs and minivans. Some agencies charge a lot for extra kilometers, and it can end up doubling the rental price. And it seems like you’ll be covering a lot of miles to get to Yellowstone.
You’ll really need to run the numbers for both scenarios to get a better idea.
My advice: Plan your itinerary and start estimating both options. Both have pros and cons. But I’d lean toward saying the best option is a hotel and a good car for the trip, which will be pretty long. And if you’re not afraid of driving, you could also stay a little farther away to save on the cost of hotels in Yellowstone and Grand Teton, which will be the most expensive on your route.
RVs are generally much less practical once you’re in cities. And you’ll have a harder time getting around given the number of miles you’ll be covering...
Personally, I live in my car most of the time—I rent a big car, and it works out great ;)
Hi there,
The terms and conditions of the rental companies I checked included a ban on driving through Death Valley.
This was only for the summer months, not all year round.
The terms and conditions of the rental companies I checked included a ban on driving through Death Valley.
This was only for the summer months, not all year round.
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Okay, thanks for the info. I didn’t know that.
Hi everyone,
we’re heading to the American West for 21 days in August.
Two options for us:
Rental car and motel, or RV.
We’ve traveled a lot in Southern Africa self-sufficiently with a 4x4 rooftop tent, but of course, it’s nothing like the USA.
I’d love your thoughts—budget-wise, we’re probably in the same ballpark.
Thanks for your feedback!
Thierry
My best memories in the US are from camping. This country is made for it ⛺️—a good 4x4 with a tent in the trunk is, in my opinion, the best way to go. Once you try it, you’ll love it. RVs are comfortable but so limiting, not to mention the cost of the trip.
My best memories in the US are from camping. This country is made for it ⛺️—a good 4x4 with a tent in the trunk is, in my opinion, the best way to go. Once you try it, you’ll love it. RVs are comfortable but so limiting, not to mention the cost of the trip.
Hello,
I’d really love to know where they rented the Jeep with a rooftop tent
They rented the Jeep from Escape Campervans in Denver. Indie Campers also offers this model. Regarding Thierry’s trip and after his clarifications, like you, I’d go for a car + motels.
I’d really love to know where they rented the Jeep with a rooftop tent
They rented the Jeep from Escape Campervans in Denver. Indie Campers also offers this model. Regarding Thierry’s trip and after his clarifications, like you, I’d go for a car + motels.
Hey Fabrice,
A Lyonnais can only be right!!
Listen, I think we’re gonna go with the motel and camping option.
We’ll pick up a tent and some gear at Walmart and do both, especially for Yellowstone and Death Valley.
It’ll keep that African spirit we love so much alive for us!!
Thanks for your help.
See you soon,
Thierry
we’re buying a tent and some gear at Walmart and we’ll mostly do both for Yellowstone and Death Valley
Hello! Don’t forget that for Yellowstone and likely Death Valley, no reservations are possible. It’s first come, first served. That said, there’s still plenty of space for a tent. 😉
Hello! Don’t forget that for Yellowstone and likely Death Valley, no reservations are possible. It’s first come, first served. That said, there’s still plenty of space for a tent. 😉
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Great choice! ... And it's coming from a local from Saint-Étienne, so you know it's got weight! 😄
If you're heading to Grand Teton, you can book ahead at Colter Bay Campground.
It's 1 hour from Yellowstone, and in the end, we stayed there for 4 nights and explored both Grand Teton and Yellowstone from there... it's totally doable by leaving early in the morning and getting back late.
We even made it all the way to Lamar Valley without any issues.
I know I’ll get criticized for this choice, but if I had to do it again, I wouldn’t change a thing 😏
I know I’ll get criticized for this choice, but if I had to do it again, I wouldn’t change a thing 😏
Thanks for the info! I’ll check it out!.. 😉
Oh yeah, for my 26 days, it cost me 3980 €.
I’ll be sleeping on my mattress in the car. I got a big SUV for 1190 € for 26 days. That saves me 2790 € 😮
The Jeep Wrangler, though, isn’t very comfy in the back (I’m 1.65m). This year, I went for a Jeep Wagoneer—super comfy. You can fit a 140cm mattress in the back 😎
😄😄
Oh wow, if it's a Stéphanois!!
Perfect, I think this solution could work since we’ll be in Grand Teton, but we’ll still try to find something in Yellowstone at the two main campgrounds.
Thanks again!
Hi there.
We did a mix of camping, motels, and sleeping under the stars in the back of the pickup.
On the heights above Gardiner, take the track toward Jardine. There’s a primitive campsite (toilets only). We used to shower in Yellowstone hotels (public showers) after our visits.
One little quirk at the campsite: share the space! 😊
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Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan









