Bonjour ,
Je n'arrive pas à situer cet oasis dans la region de Guelminn , si quelqu'un peut m'aider merci d'avance .
Est il loin de celui de Tighmert ?
Hannah
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Que se vuelva la tortilla
Oasis d'Asrir dans la région de Guelmim au Maroc
by Hannahannah
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
J'ai trouvé ceci sur trip Maroc , cet oasis semble près de Tighmert.
J'ai dans l'idée que je l'ai visité il y a quarante ans quand il y avait encore assez d'eau , il n'est pas loin de Guelminn ....." Asrir
Situé à une dizaine de kilomètres à l’est de Guelmim en direction d’Assa, Asrir dispose d’un héritage culturel riche et varié, d’oasis qui constituent un patrimoine de l’humanité, de sites historiques et de vestiges de la cité "Noul Lamta". Ce pittoresque village se caractérise également par un patrimoine culturel oral et symbolique qui véhicule des contes, des chants, des proverbes et des danses telles que "Guedra ou Ganga". Les deux moussems religieux de Sidi Mohammed Ben Amr sont organisés et célébrés aux débuts des mois de juin et août de chaque année.
Asrir était connu pour ses souks fournis où s’échangeaient les produits importés des pays subsahariens contre les produits marocains. Ses habitants, essentiellement de la tribu Azwafitt sont de grands commerçants. Ils ont étendu leur commerce au nord de la Mauritanie et du Mali. A Atar, dans le nord mauritanien, les originaires de cette tribu sont parmi les plus grands commerçants de la ville et bien qu’ils comptent dans leurs rangs des parlementaires et de hauts fonctionnaires de l’Etat mauritanien, ils gardent des contacts permanents avec leur oasis d’origine où ils se rendent chaque année à l’occasion du Moussem
Situé à une dizaine de kilomètres à l’est de Guelmim en direction d’Assa, Asrir dispose d’un héritage culturel riche et varié, d’oasis qui constituent un patrimoine de l’humanité, de sites historiques et de vestiges de la cité "Noul Lamta". Ce pittoresque village se caractérise également par un patrimoine culturel oral et symbolique qui véhicule des contes, des chants, des proverbes et des danses telles que "Guedra ou Ganga". Les deux moussems religieux de Sidi Mohammed Ben Amr sont organisés et célébrés aux débuts des mois de juin et août de chaque année.
Asrir était connu pour ses souks fournis où s’échangeaient les produits importés des pays subsahariens contre les produits marocains. Ses habitants, essentiellement de la tribu Azwafitt sont de grands commerçants. Ils ont étendu leur commerce au nord de la Mauritanie et du Mali. A Atar, dans le nord mauritanien, les originaires de cette tribu sont parmi les plus grands commerçants de la ville et bien qu’ils comptent dans leurs rangs des parlementaires et de hauts fonctionnaires de l’Etat mauritanien, ils gardent des contacts permanents avec leur oasis d’origine où ils se rendent chaque année à l’occasion du Moussem
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Je suppose que je pourrais y passer en Maî , je le situe a peu près au sud ouest de Tighmert , j'aurais aimé avoir plus de renseignements . Après avoir visionné une vidéo il m'a semblé que c'était mon " premier oasis visité" juste avant la marche verte , vers 1974 .
Quelques renseignements de plus , notamment sur Noul Lamta .....Un riche passé archéologique
Les environs de Guelmin sont riches d’un passé archéologique important. 270 sites y ont été répertoriés. Nombreux d’entres eux possèdent des gravures rupestres…
Parmi ceux-ci, le village d’Asrir à l’entrée de l’oasis de Tighmert, sensé héberger les vestiges de l’antique Noul Lamta, retient l’attention des archéologues hispano-marocains.
Cité médiévale, sa construction serait postérieure à la conquête arabe menée par Sidi Okba Ben Nafi à la fin d du VIIe siècle. De plus elle aurait été selon les écrits, dotée d’un atelier monétaire à une époque où elle commerçait avec les phéniciens et les carthaginois, rendant ces recherches très attractives.
Les environs de Guelmin sont riches d’un passé archéologique important. 270 sites y ont été répertoriés. Nombreux d’entres eux possèdent des gravures rupestres…
Parmi ceux-ci, le village d’Asrir à l’entrée de l’oasis de Tighmert, sensé héberger les vestiges de l’antique Noul Lamta, retient l’attention des archéologues hispano-marocains.
Cité médiévale, sa construction serait postérieure à la conquête arabe menée par Sidi Okba Ben Nafi à la fin d du VIIe siècle. De plus elle aurait été selon les écrits, dotée d’un atelier monétaire à une époque où elle commerçait avec les phéniciens et les carthaginois, rendant ces recherches très attractives.
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Bonjour
Moi je mets oasis au féminin.
A part ça tu as tout dit sur Asrir qui se trouve quelques petits kms avant Tighmert .
Les rabatteurs de la place du quartier Ali Baba de Guelmim ne parlent d' ailleurs que de Tighmert et jamais d' Asrir. Je crois qu' il y a un moussem au printemps.
La route a été refaite une jolie porte vient d' être construire et le village est doté d' un superbe rond- point.
Merci Aoreora , en effet les rabatteurs sur la place ne manquent pas surnTighmert , j'ai encore expérimenté en Octobre .
Mais je découvre l'histoire d'Asrî , il me semble que cette oasis ( féminin 😉) pourrait être celle que je cherche depuis longtemps et où il y avait une belle étendue d'eau en 1974 . J'avais omis cette histoire de secheresse quî a certainement fait disparaître l'eau .
Donc je peux y aller , la direction ce doit être la première route à droite avant celle de Tighmert . Peux tu me dire s'il y a une indication .
Bonne soirée .
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Bonjour , ta recherche de l'oasis perdu me donne avec toutes les indications et les souvenirs que tu relates , une envie folle de m'y rendre , c'est vrais que l'on va directement a Tighmert et la source d'eau chaude de fask . Merci et recherche encore d'autres souvenirs stp .
JiPé
JiPé
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C' est la même route que Tighmert et c' est avant. 1ère à droite en effet.
Pour la source de Fask qui en réalité est de l'autre côté du village de Fask et donc de la nationale, on peut y accéder au départ de Tighmert par une piste ( une dizaine de kms) ou en quittant la nationale en face de Faski en hors piste( environ 3 ou 4 kms)
🙂Bonjour. Petit rectificatif: Il faut écrire Nûl Lamta . Il faut suivre le cours de l'Oued NOUN pour trouver l'oasis d 'Asrir . Pour se documenter : un livre très documenté sur cette contrée :
Elément d'histoire sociale de l'oued Noun . Par Ahmed Joumani . Editions : La croisées des
chemins. Le titre du livre n'est pas très évocateur , le début traite des populations locales surtout et de leurs imbrications. Mais les pages concernant l'oued Noun que je connais fort bien
sont très intéressantes pour Asrir et Nûl lamta. Il faudrait aller aussi du côté d'Assaka et du Foum Assaka , (estuaire sur l'Atlantique ) et passer par Bou Jerrif , il y a un camping extra, mais aussi un ancien bord français à proximité , datant de la "pacification" et où on s'attend à rencontrer, dans un paysage sauvage de film notre sympathique Corto Maltaise....Une ambiance
extraordinaire de B.D.! Tout la région a été habitée par les hommes du paléolithique et du néolithique....De quoi rêver.....Et il y a de l'eau pérenne dans l'oued....Alors ? La culture, le voyage, la découverte, le rêve....... << y'a plus qu'à ...>> Patrick de Bergerac🙂
Patrick.
Bonjour Patrick ,
Quelle chance , que de détails et de références , merci pour ta reponse . Enfin autre chose que : " quel temps va t'ils faire le 15 avril " ou " où faire du quad dans les dunes " ....😉😉 Je suis déjà allé à Assaka , mais en 2006 . Cette année en Octobre j'ai juste vu le panneau . Le fort de Bou Jeriff il, me semble qu'il faut prendre une piste et en voiture de location je fais attention. Toute cette histoire d'Asrir est passionnante au niveau des civilisations passées , de la richesse culturelle de cette region quî se meurt à petit feu aujourd'hui . " y a plus qu'a " pour moi ce seras au mois de mai . Est ce que tu connais un peu les oasis autour de Tata ?
Quelle chance , que de détails et de références , merci pour ta reponse . Enfin autre chose que : " quel temps va t'ils faire le 15 avril " ou " où faire du quad dans les dunes " ....😉😉 Je suis déjà allé à Assaka , mais en 2006 . Cette année en Octobre j'ai juste vu le panneau . Le fort de Bou Jeriff il, me semble qu'il faut prendre une piste et en voiture de location je fais attention. Toute cette histoire d'Asrir est passionnante au niveau des civilisations passées , de la richesse culturelle de cette region quî se meurt à petit feu aujourd'hui . " y a plus qu'a " pour moi ce seras au mois de mai . Est ce que tu connais un peu les oasis autour de Tata ?
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Bonjour
Si tu es intéressée par Bou Jerif il faut prendre une piste à droite d' une dizaine de kms après Laksabi. Cette piste n ' est pas du tout accidentée. Vraiment cela vaut le coup bien plus qu' Asrir!
La photo de mon avatar a été prise à Foum Assaka....
Coucou Hannah
Je suis avec beaucoup d'attention les posts concernant l'oasis Asrir que je ne connais pas et que je compte bien découvrir lors de mon prochain périple .
Concernant Fort Bou Jeriff, tu peux tout à fait y accéder en voiture . J'y suis allée en novembre avec mon carrosse. Il suffit juste de rouler lentement. L'endroit est très sympa. On y mange bien (un peu cher peut être...)
Quelques images ...
"N'ayez pas peur de la vie. N'ayez jamais peur de l'aventure. Faites confiance au hasard, à la chance, à la destinée. Partez, allez conquérir d'autres espaces, d'autres espérances. Le reste vous sera donné de surcroît"
Henry de Monfreid - trilogie de la Mer Rouge.
Si je peux me permettre: l' endroit est plus que sympa. Il est grandiose ( je ne parle pas du camping des 2 premières photos où l' on déjeune, dîne, se baigne, dort sur un parking ou des chambres)
Je parle du site, du fort, des casemates qu' on voit au loin, de la faune avec les rats du désert, les dunettes, des pistes environnantes qui mènent à l' océan. ....
Salut la revenante de là bas 😉
Pour tout dire j'ai un mauvais souvenir d'une piste cassante pour aller à Bou Jeriff , c'était le soir et j'étais crevée , mais c'était dans les premières années de l'an 2000 . Si tu es passé par là avec ton carrosse alors je peux aussi tenter la prochaine fois .
Mon itineraire s'étoffe , j'ai pris un billet pour trois semaines en Maî j'aurais dû voir plus large .
Je ferais un retour d'Asrir , en espérant qu'il n'y auras pas trop de vent car mes yeux n'aiment pas du tout le sable . La deuxième intervention s'est bien passé , je peux pratiquement conduire de nuit 😉
Bonne journée
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Seul probleme pour moi les pistes menant à l'océan avec la voiture de location , je vais enrager , merci du retour .
Asnir pour moi c'est surtout l'importance du lieu et de son histoire , penser à ces civilisations disparues .
Que se vuelva la tortilla
hello Hannah
j'ai résolu le problème du vent de sable en emmenant un vieux masque de ski !
je me moquais d'une copine qui en utilisait 1 dans le désert , mais maintenant les yeux étant plus fragile j'apprécie !
je sens que l'on va être content de ton post de retour !
francia
le mérite d'un homme réside dans sa connaissance et dans ses actes et non point dans la couleur de sa peau ou de sa religion!
Khalil Gibran
bonjour
merci pour ces photos !
moi aussi j'ai hésité lorsque j'étais dans cette région à aller jusqu'à Fort Bou Jerrif , la prochaine fois j'irais !
c'est superbe !
francia
le mérite d'un homme réside dans sa connaissance et dans ses actes et non point dans la couleur de sa peau ou de sa religion!
Khalil Gibran
bonjour
je crois avoir quelques photos du coin ! 
estuaire du Noun
on vient de Sidi-Ifni par la route , puis Sidi Ouarsik et ensuite le fleuve Noun !
et la piste 
plus possible pour nous d'aller plus loin ! il y avait des camions Allemands qui campaient dans le coin ! peut-être un jour la route continuera , c'est prévu je crois ! francia
estuaire du Noun
on vient de Sidi-Ifni par la route , puis Sidi Ouarsik et ensuite le fleuve Noun !
et la piste plus possible pour nous d'aller plus loin ! il y avait des camions Allemands qui campaient dans le coin ! peut-être un jour la route continuera , c'est prévu je crois ! francia
le mérite d'un homme réside dans sa connaissance et dans ses actes et non point dans la couleur de sa peau ou de sa religion!
Khalil Gibran
Bonsoir Hannah,
Un petit truc qui peut aider à trouver les lieux (probablement pas tous, en tout cas beaucoup), est d'utiliser "Google Earth".
Je ne t'apprends peut-être rien, mais l'info peut être utile à d'autres.
Pas toujours facile d'utilisation (pour moi), mais cela permet en plus de visualiser les lieux et souvent bien détaillés.
Dans mon futur voyage de fin d'année, j'ai également prévu "d'écumer" toute cette région.
Tous tes retours (me) seront d'une grande utilité.
"Il vaut mieux faire des enfants quand on est vieux, on les em...de moins longtemps (Desproges)
Salut Alain ,
Il m'arrive de me servir de Google Earth bien sur , mais je me plante souvent . On peut tellement visualiser qu'une fois, en essayant GE , j'ai vu les vélos dans mon garage ....verte de rage envers cette violation de l'intimité .🏴☠️🏴☠️ Je ferait un retour bien sûr . Seule condition qu'il n'y ait pas de vent , mes yeux ne supportent pas .😕
Il m'arrive de me servir de Google Earth bien sur , mais je me plante souvent . On peut tellement visualiser qu'une fois, en essayant GE , j'ai vu les vélos dans mon garage ....verte de rage envers cette violation de l'intimité .🏴☠️🏴☠️ Je ferait un retour bien sûr . Seule condition qu'il n'y ait pas de vent , mes yeux ne supportent pas .😕
Que se vuelva la tortilla
coucou hannah, alors asrir ? comment y accéder depuis tighmert ? on peut se garer et explorer ? as tu un contact d'un e personne là bas pour manger le midi ou visiter? merci
A la recherche de l'oasis d'Asrir....
J'avais beaucoup lu sur cet oasis, j'avais vraiment envie de fouler ces lieux qui ont vus de nombreux échanges entrés les différentes civilisations. Helas, rien de rien...pas un chat dans les rues, et j'ai juste fait une photo du marabout qui a été repeint...... Tout à côté de Tighmert , je n'ai eu aucun contact , dommage . Il faudra que je retente , mais ce jour là il faisait très, trop chaud , et ensuite j'ai été déçue par Tighmert que j'avais connu sans toutes les maisons d'hôtes il y a ...plus de quarante ans 😉
J'avais beaucoup lu sur cet oasis, j'avais vraiment envie de fouler ces lieux qui ont vus de nombreux échanges entrés les différentes civilisations. Helas, rien de rien...pas un chat dans les rues, et j'ai juste fait une photo du marabout qui a été repeint...... Tout à côté de Tighmert , je n'ai eu aucun contact , dommage . Il faudra que je retente , mais ce jour là il faisait très, trop chaud , et ensuite j'ai été déçue par Tighmert que j'avais connu sans toutes les maisons d'hôtes il y a ...plus de quarante ans 😉
Que se vuelva la tortilla
ah oui ya 40ans ce devait être bien different. je trouve qu'il reste un côté tout de meme préservé par rapport aux villes hyper touritiques du nord. du coup autour de tighmert, genre à 100km à la ronde que me conseilles tu de voir?
Genre 100 kms , je n'ai pas ma carte mais il me semble que c'est bon ....
l'embouchure du Draa ....magique . Une route goudronnée qui part sur la droite apres Tan Tan , quand tu arrives sur l'embouchure tu peux poser ton camion pour dormir ( attention au vent ) .
Le marché de Guelminn le soir , avec petite bouffe de rue pour rien , surtout des poissons
l'embouchure du Draa ....magique . Une route goudronnée qui part sur la droite apres Tan Tan , quand tu arrives sur l'embouchure tu peux poser ton camion pour dormir ( attention au vent ) .
Le marché de Guelminn le soir , avec petite bouffe de rue pour rien , surtout des poissonsQue se vuelva la tortilla
joli! merci ! hier justement j'ai fait guelmim by night
Tu as goûté les poissons au petites terrasses de restos ?
Je crois qu'avec les restos de Tata c'est ce que j'ai trouvé de moins cher et de bon .
Tu es ou en ce moment ?
Que se vuelva la tortilla
pas hier mais c'est prévu. à tiznit j'avais goûté et apprécié. je suis à Tighmert.je cherche où je vais ensuite
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I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!