J'ai besoin d'un extrait intégral de naissance 12S de mon grand-père originaire de El Hadjar dans la willaya d'Annaba. Il semblerait que l'on puisse à présent l'obtenir via internet mais après avoir tenté de le faire, on me demande un No que je ne connais pas. Quelqu'un a-t-il réussi à obtenir ce fameux document par internet indispensable pour l'obtention de la nationalité algérienne ... ? Merci de vos retours. 🙂
Obtention de la nationalité algérienne: 12S en ligne
by Viléna
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Salam,
J'ai besoin d'un extrait intégral de naissance 12S de mon grand-père originaire de El Hadjar dans la willaya d'Annaba. Il semblerait que l'on puisse à présent l'obtenir via internet mais après avoir tenté de le faire, on me demande un No que je ne connais pas. Quelqu'un a-t-il réussi à obtenir ce fameux document par internet indispensable pour l'obtention de la nationalité algérienne ... ? Merci de vos retours. 🙂
J'ai besoin d'un extrait intégral de naissance 12S de mon grand-père originaire de El Hadjar dans la willaya d'Annaba. Il semblerait que l'on puisse à présent l'obtenir via internet mais après avoir tenté de le faire, on me demande un No que je ne connais pas. Quelqu'un a-t-il réussi à obtenir ce fameux document par internet indispensable pour l'obtention de la nationalité algérienne ... ? Merci de vos retours. 🙂
Salam,
J'ai besoin d'un extrait intégral de naissance 12S de mon grand-père originaire de El Hadjar dans la willaya d'Annaba. Il semblerait que l'on puisse à présent l'obtenir via internet mais après avoir tenté de le faire, on me demande un No que je ne connais pas. Quelqu'un a-t-il réussi à obtenir ce fameux document par internet indispensable pour l'obtention de la nationalité algérienne ... ? Merci de vos retours. 🙂
salut j'ai tester le site en question récemment et j'ai eu le 12s en 3 semaines parce que la démarche a été améliorée. pour info je vis en france. a+
J'ai besoin d'un extrait intégral de naissance 12S de mon grand-père originaire de El Hadjar dans la willaya d'Annaba. Il semblerait que l'on puisse à présent l'obtenir via internet mais après avoir tenté de le faire, on me demande un No que je ne connais pas. Quelqu'un a-t-il réussi à obtenir ce fameux document par internet indispensable pour l'obtention de la nationalité algérienne ... ? Merci de vos retours. 🙂
salut j'ai tester le site en question récemment et j'ai eu le 12s en 3 semaines parce que la démarche a été améliorée. pour info je vis en france. a+
Bonjour,
Merci à vous deux pour vos réponses. Je n'ai pas de carte consulaire car je n'ai pas encore la double nationalité ... Le No demandé est peut-être celui de naissance de mon grand-père ... Mais comment l'obtenir ?
Merci à vous deux pour vos réponses. Je n'ai pas de carte consulaire car je n'ai pas encore la double nationalité ... Le No demandé est peut-être celui de naissance de mon grand-père ... Mais comment l'obtenir ?
Bonjour,
Merci à vous deux pour vos réponses. Je n'ai pas de carte consulaire car je n'ai pas encore la double nationalité ... Le No demandé est peut-être celui de naissance de mon grand-père ... Mais comment l'obtenir ?
bonjour si ma mémoire est bonne les numéros qu'ils demandent sont celui qui figure sur la page du livret de famille de votre grand pere(extrait de l'acte de naissance) et celui qui est sur sa carte d'immatriculation (carte blanche consulaire) car ce site est fait pour les algeriens qui vivent à l'étranger mais bon ça vous le savez déja.
Merci à vous deux pour vos réponses. Je n'ai pas de carte consulaire car je n'ai pas encore la double nationalité ... Le No demandé est peut-être celui de naissance de mon grand-père ... Mais comment l'obtenir ?
bonjour si ma mémoire est bonne les numéros qu'ils demandent sont celui qui figure sur la page du livret de famille de votre grand pere(extrait de l'acte de naissance) et celui qui est sur sa carte d'immatriculation (carte blanche consulaire) car ce site est fait pour les algeriens qui vivent à l'étranger mais bon ça vous le savez déja.
Bonjour,
Merci pour ces précisions. Malheureusement je n'ai aucun document concernant mon grand-père. Je n'ai que la carte d'identité algérienne de mon père. Sur l'extrait intégral de l'acte de naissance de mon père, puis-je retrouver le No d'acte de naissance de mon grand-père ?
Merci pour ces précisions. Malheureusement je n'ai aucun document concernant mon grand-père. Je n'ai que la carte d'identité algérienne de mon père. Sur l'extrait intégral de l'acte de naissance de mon père, puis-je retrouver le No d'acte de naissance de mon grand-père ?
Bonjour,
Merci pour ces précisions. Malheureusement je n'ai aucun document concernant mon grand-père. Je n'ai que la carte d'identité algérienne de mon père. Sur l'extrait intégral de l'acte de naissance de mon père, puis-je retrouver le No d'acte de naissance de mon grand-père ?
bonjour je vous dis bonjour car il est 8h35 , alors que vous qui est censé etre de paris vous aviez dit bonjour alors qu'il était 21h09 lol c'est pour rire 😛
sans indiscrétion votre grand père vit en france ?
Merci pour ces précisions. Malheureusement je n'ai aucun document concernant mon grand-père. Je n'ai que la carte d'identité algérienne de mon père. Sur l'extrait intégral de l'acte de naissance de mon père, puis-je retrouver le No d'acte de naissance de mon grand-père ?
bonjour je vous dis bonjour car il est 8h35 , alors que vous qui est censé etre de paris vous aviez dit bonjour alors qu'il était 21h09 lol c'est pour rire 😛
sans indiscrétion votre grand père vit en france ?
Bonsoir,
Il est décédé. Ainsi que mon père.
Il est décédé. Ainsi que mon père.
Bonjour,
Je ne comprend pas pourquoi on vous demande ce document concernant votre grand-père !
Normalement on vous demande des documents relatifs aux parents (mère/père)
Donc il y a quelque chose qui cloche d'autan plus que votre père était Algerien donc a part
Les documents concernant votre père je ne vois pas ce que le consulat
Vous demande ? Revoir avec eux si possible pour plus de renseignement et bon
Courage vu le monde !!
Bonjour,
Oui, je trouve cela consternant, mais selon le consulat c'est pour s' assurer que mon père était bien Algérien, ce qui ne fait aucun doute puisque j'ai sa carte de nationalité algérienne ... 🤪 Je vais retourner au consulat mais en septembre, ce sera plus calme ! 😉
Oui, je trouve cela consternant, mais selon le consulat c'est pour s' assurer que mon père était bien Algérien, ce qui ne fait aucun doute puisque j'ai sa carte de nationalité algérienne ... 🤪 Je vais retourner au consulat mais en septembre, ce sera plus calme ! 😉
bonsoir
le consulat a raison pour démontrer sa nationalité algérienne tu dois avoir deux parents(parmi tes ascendants direct) nés en Algérie et musulman ou soit prouvé que ton père ou ta mère est algérienne de là, un tribunal te de livrera un certificat de nationalité que tu pourra remettre aux autorités civils qui te demanderont de prouver ta nationalité. a défaut de fournir un certificats les autorités consulaires se cantonnent aux actes de naissances de tes 2 ascendants direct. je ferai la remarque suivante l'acte de naissance S12 ne sert qu'a se voir délivrer un passeport biométrique il te serra refusé pour la délivrance de tout autre documents le plus simple serait pour toi qu'une personne sur place te fasse un certificat de nationalité délai obtention le jour même
bien cdlt
le consulat a raison pour démontrer sa nationalité algérienne tu dois avoir deux parents(parmi tes ascendants direct) nés en Algérie et musulman ou soit prouvé que ton père ou ta mère est algérienne de là, un tribunal te de livrera un certificat de nationalité que tu pourra remettre aux autorités civils qui te demanderont de prouver ta nationalité. a défaut de fournir un certificats les autorités consulaires se cantonnent aux actes de naissances de tes 2 ascendants direct. je ferai la remarque suivante l'acte de naissance S12 ne sert qu'a se voir délivrer un passeport biométrique il te serra refusé pour la délivrance de tout autre documents le plus simple serait pour toi qu'une personne sur place te fasse un certificat de nationalité délai obtention le jour même
bien cdlt
vive les martyrs de 54
Bonjour,
le plus simple serait pour toi qu'une personne sur place te fasse un certificat de nationalité délai obtention le jour même
Tu veux dire sur place, au tribunal d'Annaba ?
ou soit prouvé que ton père ou ta mère est algérienne
Justement, vu que j'ai retrouvé la carte d'identité algérienne de mon père, cela ne devrait-il pas suffire ?
le plus simple serait pour toi qu'une personne sur place te fasse un certificat de nationalité délai obtention le jour même
Tu veux dire sur place, au tribunal d'Annaba ?
ou soit prouvé que ton père ou ta mère est algérienne
Justement, vu que j'ai retrouvé la carte d'identité algérienne de mon père, cela ne devrait-il pas suffire ?
oui sur n'importe quel tribunal sur le territoire national et non malheureusement la cni a elle seule ne suffit pas
je reste a ta disposition pour de plus ample renseignements
bien cdlt
bien cdlt
vive les martyrs de 54
Le certificat de nationalité est délivré par le Tribunal soit sur présentation de la CNI Algérienne, ou de l'acte de naissance du père et du grand-père...
Merci à tous les deux ...
C'est quand même un peu le serpent qui se mord la queue ...
Savez-vous si sur l'extrait d'acte de naissance intégral de mon père se trouve le No de naissance de son père ? Car sans ce No, impossible d'obtenir l'extrait d'acte de naissance de mon grand-père par internet...🤪😮
Savez-vous si sur l'extrait d'acte de naissance intégral de mon père se trouve le No de naissance de son père ? Car sans ce No, impossible d'obtenir l'extrait d'acte de naissance de mon grand-père par internet...🤪😮
oui
en dessous de wilaya, daira , commune tu as la mention état civil n°, tres exactement en haut a gauche si c'est en arabe c'est en haut a droite
en dessous de wilaya, daira , commune tu as la mention état civil n°, tres exactement en haut a gauche si c'est en arabe c'est en haut a droite
vive les martyrs de 54
Merci !
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1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.




