Avis sur parcours détaillé de 19 jours dans l'Ouest américain
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Avis sur parcours détaillé de 19 jours dans l'Ouest américain

by Eaglefoot

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VeteranPrès de l'Eau · 614 posts
Bonjour

Cette discussion est la suite d'une précédente : http://voyageforum.com/discussion/17-jours-dans-ouest-americain-avec-sans-san-francisco-yosemite-d6413659/

je présente ici notre parcours (très) détaillé pour un couple avec une fille de 13 ans, pour avoir vos avis et commentaires éclairés :

J1, 10 août : arrivée à Las Vegas (14h00), récupération de la voiture et direction hôtel Tuscany

J2, 11 août Las Vegas

Matin Visites :

Hôtel Venetian 36.12219, -115.171827 Hôtel Paris (face Bellagio) Coca cola store 3785 S Las Vegas Blvd (en face du MGM) 36.103625, -115.172646 M&M store 3785 S Las Vegas Blvd ouverture à 9h00

Repas : nombreux buffet (the wynn = le meilleur)

Après midi : Hôtel Bellagio (fontaine) : de 15hà20h toutes les 30min (éviter la foule du soir) Piscine hôtel Hôtels MGM Faire des provisions (par ex Wal Mart 36.099845, -115.108012)

J3=mardi 12 août (Overton sunrise : 5:53 sunset : 19h34) Matin démarrer tôt (chaleur)

Valley of Fire 36.429984, -114.51413 : 1h10min $10/véhicule prendre la route Mouse Tank Road, à environ 2kms à droite( 36.452666, -114.515011)

courte balade sur une piste qui mène à Fire Canyon/Silica Dome, revenir à la voiture se garer au bout de la route (36.486074, -114.532903) de là visiter les White Domes et la Fire Wave (panneau ou 36.48277, -114.522386 ) Durée de la visite = 2h00

Après midi : Outlet : Las Vegas Premium Outlets - 875 South Grand Central Parkway (Voucher)

Possibilité : Baignade Lake Mead à la plage du Stewart Point (36.37902, -114.401732). Passer prendre un American Beautiful Pass à l’entrée au Alan Bible Visitor Center (36.010297, -114.795727 Great Basin Highway, Boulder City, ) $80 Puis aller au Stewart Point : durée total du trajet depuis l’hôtel = 1h47

J4=mercredi 13août aller à Kanarraville (2h26 )+ 1h00 de décalage horaire)

à Kanarraville : faire Kanarra Creeks ($10 pour le parking ), environ 3h00, prévoir marche dans l’eau : Trailhead sur la 100N street : 37.537499, -113.177168 Retour à Hurricane pour dormir au Comfort Inn (50kms, 37min)

J5=jeudi 14 août

Aller à Cedar Breaks National Mon. 1h30 depuis Hurricane (America the Beautiful Pass valable) : 37.611614, -112.837618 démarrer très belle balade à : à Spectra point 37.6105, -112.845 puis à Rampart Overlook : 37.6145, -112.858 Au total 6kms de balade AR (1h30)

Puis aller à Willis Creek 37.476271, -112.056087(1h50 depuis Cedar Break NM) A partir de Cannonville, prendre la cottonwood road (indication kodachrome basin). après 2.9 miles, prendre la skutumpah road sur la droite (sud ouest) indication "bull valley gorge". suivre ensuite la piste pendant 6.3 miles jusqu'au trailhead Randonnée en slot canyon 2h00 (Narrows après 30min de marche)

Hôtel à Panguitch : 1h00 de route

J6=vendredi 15 août sunrise 6h45 Aller à Bryce Canyon National Park : 45min

Depuis la route s’arrêter à Sunrise Point 37.6281, -112.16287 et Inspiration Point revenir un peu sur nos pas pour aller à Fairyland Point (tourner à 37.651209, -112.163808) Point de départ de la rando Fairyland Loop (13kms 4-5h) Au retour de la balade, revenir sur la scenic drive et aller au bout, retour par sunset Point Retour Panguitch (45min)

J7=samedi 16 août Aller à Capitol Reef en passant par la très belle route Scenic Byway 12 (225kms, 3h05 en théorie, mais plusieurs arrêts, compter au moins 5-6h00 avec les arrêts : après Henrieville : Upper Blue/Powell Point overlook après Escalante : Head of the rock Overlook : très beau 37.746617, -111.454133 puis Boynton Overlook : 37.771461, -111.417764 on peut tourner à Boulder pour prendre un bout de la Burr trail (jusqu’à Long Canyon) et revenir (détour avec photos et arrêts = 1h30-2h00)

Après Torrey, prendre la route 24, on rentre dans Capitol Reef NP Arrêt possible à Gooseneck Overlook et Sunset Point (à voir au coucher du soleil, 20h19) Puis au visitor center (america beautiful OK) on prend la scenic drive, faire demi tour et retrouver la route et aller à droite pour faire rando à Hickman Bridge (1h30)

Hôtel à Torrey

J8 = dimanche 17 août destination finale = Moab avec arrêt rando à Little Horse Wild Canyon (300km, 4h20 avec le détour) Le matin, faire un petit arrêt photo à Panorama point (sunrise 6h42) dans le Capitol Reef NP

Prendre la 24 et aller jusqu’à l’embranchement (38.630684, -110.566763) de Temple Mount Road (à gauche)pour aller à Goblin Valley SP que l’on atteint après 1h20 et 109kms ; puis rejoindre le parc ($8) après encore 50min (27kms)

Le départ du Little Horse Wild Canyon est à 38.582493, -110.802447, c’est un slot canyon dont les narrows sont rapidement atteints

Repartir vers Moab (2h00)

J9=lundi 18 août Randonnée Devil’s garden (11,5kms) Démarrer très tôt le matin (chaleur) 50min de route depuis maison se garer à 38.783127, -109.595074 et démarrer. Arrivé à Double O Arch, La plus belle vue s’apprecie de l’autre côté de l’arche, après être passé par le petit " O " de l’arche et être grimpé sur la colline Revenir par la Primitive trail (plus difficile, marche dans le sable, bien suivre cairns)

Après midi : repos ou/et Delicate Arch : se garer à Delicate Arch Parking = Wolfe Ranch (38.735138, -109.520756) le mieux est de démarrer la balade vers 18h00-18h30 pour arriver juste avant le coucher du soleil (sunset : 20h11 sunrise : 6h34) compter 1h00 de marche pour l’aller (prévoir lampe et trépied) Compter 40min entre villa et parking, parking Delicate Arch petit : partir de la maison vers 17h00 au plus tard

J10=mardi 19 août Canyonlands Island in the Sky :

Dans l'ordre : Dead Horse SP (pass non valable) (50min depuis maison), balade au bout de la boucle (1h00), Mesa Arch 40min depuis Dead Horse, balade 40min Possibilité d’aller à White Rim : 11min au sud depuis Mesa Arch

False Kiva, 10 min de route à se garer au niveau d'une pancarte qui indique le départ de rando "Alcove spring trailhead" qui mène à Taylor canyon (environ 38.42468, -109.910858) Rando 2h00 . Mieux pour photo dans l’après midi mais risque de chaleur

Retour maison : 1h20

J11=mercredi 20 août Matin Negro Bill Canyon (20 min de la maison on longe la très belle route 128) : 38.610298, -109.53389, rando le long de la rivière (7km AR jusqu’au Morning Glory Bridge)

Possibilité aussi de faire The Windows : 38.687335, -109.536677 (40min de la maison), Turret Arch au coucher du soleil (rando 45min) Possibilité aussi de rajouter Bowtie et Corona Arch (départ : 38.5748, -109.632, 3,2 kms AR) 30 min de voiture depuis maison

Un peu moins tranquille : Klondike Bluff, se garer à 38.796080, -109.658861 (1h15 de voiture) ou, si possible à 38.792383, -109.674978 puis faire les Marching Men (38.785969, -109.677997) et Tower Arch (38.789434, -109.687872) (9kms) On peut aller voir Anniversary Arch en voiture 38.776355, -109.679204

J12=jeudi 21 août Le matin possibilité de petite balade à Mill Creek (38.561808, -109.516979) 10min de la maison

Visite de Monument Valley (entrée de la route = 37.004335, -110.173329) Moab à entrée de Valley Drive = 2h30 Il est conseillé de visiter MV en fin d’après midi, donc arriver à l’entrée de la route vers 16h30 (2h00 pour faire la route). Fermeture parc à 21h00, sunset=20h08 Hôtel San Juan Inn sur la route entre Moab et MV

J13=vendredi 22 août Changement d’heure en Arizona = -1h00 destination finale = Page (229 kms, 2h20 en direct) sunrise 5h44 (heure Arizona) : attention, Kayenta est en territoire Navajo donc heure Utah en août

Démarrer par : Valley of the gods : piste de terre de 25kms qui démarre à 10min de San Juan Inn au Nord Est (prendre cette entrée Est (37.235112, -109.814385) pour avoir le soleil dans le dos, meilleures vue et photos) : compter 2h00

à la fin de la piste, on débouche sur la 261, prendre à gauche et rouler 9kms, puis prendre à droite pour aller au Gooseneck State Park 37.173722, -109.927536, gratuit, panorama

Aller à Page

J14=Samedi 23 août Tôt le matin (avant 8h30), aller à Lower Antelope : 36.876462, -111.363114 12kms, 17min prendre le pass photo 2h00=$42+$8 pour rentrer sur territoire Navajo (il faut un trépied)

Horseshoe Bend : démarrer de 36.876325, -111.50098 (8kms, 10min) 50min de rando 2,4kms AR (+photos)

Baignade possible à Lone Rock : parking vers 37.016278, -111.545459 (20min du motel) puis continuer à pied vers la plage

Repartir de Page pour être à Grand Canyon vers 16h30-17h00 au plus tard, pour faire la scenic drive (avec arrêt), aller au Lodge et faire le sunset (assez tôt) Aller à Grand Canyon Village (218kms, 2h33) Sunset 19h09 Coucher de soleil à Shoshone 36.035045, -112.069265, 45min AR retour, prendre lampe. On est à 6km de Yavapai Lodge

J15 = Dimanche 24 août Grand Canyon Village : sunrise : 5h54

Partir à pied par la Rim Trail (11,4kms), et revenir en navette ou l’inverse, (soleil dans les yeux ?)

aller à Sedona (186kms, 2h07), partir assez tôt, le soleil se couche vers 19h00

J16=Lundi 25 août Sedona

Matin

West Fork Oak Trail Arriver assez tôt car parking petit, se garer à 34.990242, -111.741666 (22min de l’hôtel) $9 Rando 4h00,

Après midi

Red Rock Crossing/Crescent Moon : se garer à Forest Park : 34.826487, -111.809047. Rando courte (30min) à faire en fin d’après midi pour les photos (10min de l’hôtel), $7 (ou se garer à 34.824752, -111.808045, de l’autre côté de la rivière pour ne pas payer)

J17=Mardi 26 août Sedona

Matin Cathedral Rock se garer à 34.825386, -111.788625 (12min de l’hôtel), on peut monter entre les 2 monolithes (à faire le matin ou en fin d’après midi) 1h00 AR

Après midi

Devil’s Bridge : Parking à 34.889979, -111.819795 (7min de l’hôtel), puis marcher sur la route vers le nord jusqu’à 34.903003, -111.814173 et prendre à droite vers l’est (3,5kmAR 1h00)

Broken Arrow Trail se garer à 34.845561, -111.757053 (10min hôtel), 6km AR (2h15), Fin de journée plus belle lumière On peut faire un détour par la chapelle Holy Cross Chapel

J18=Mercredi 27 août Sedona

Matin

Brins Mesa se garer à 34.887937, -111.768336( 11min de l’hôtel), partir vers le nord. 2.5h AR On peut combiner avec Cibola Pass et Jordan trail pour une journée Rando (faire Soldier Pass tout près)

Chimney Rock se garer à 34.871639, -111.812102 rando de 1h00 en fin de journée

Autres randos à Sedona :

Airport Loop : les plus beaux couchers de soleil à voir : tlatepaque

J19 = Jeudi 28 août Aller à Phoenix par le Sycamore canyon 34.864173, -112.069695 (rando) puis aller à Montezuma Castle (visite)

puis Phoenix 3h40 en tout
IT Itat Globetrotter ·
Hello

Pour le Pass, tu peux l'acheter à la cahute d'entrée du Lake Mead National Recreation Area, tu y passeras forcément si tu ne passes pas par l'autoroute pour rejoindre Valley Of Fire.

A Capitol Reef , me semble que le Sunrise à Panorama Point, tu peux sauter, car de mémoire c'est plutôt au Sunset que ça s'apprécie, de même que le Sunset Point tout proche en fait 😛

C'est un beau parcours, il y a assurément quelques journées où il faudra alléger mais ça vous verrez sur place 😉.

Pour le pass photos à Antelope, renseigne toi bien, il me semble avoir lu que seul celui qui a le trépied peut rentrer... 🤪 D'autres pourront te confirmer ou infirmer. J'ai peut être mal compris !

Avis perso: je trouve qu'il y a beaucoup de temps de prévu à Sedona. J'aurais volontiers vu 2 jours en moins pour rajouter une nuit à Capitol Reef ou Moab et une nuit à Page ou prendre le temps de faire l'Apache Trail pour rejoindre Phoenix.
EA Eaglefoot Veteran ·
Merci pour ta réponse Thibaut, je prends note pour sunrise point à Capitol Reef

Pour l'histoire du trépied à Lower Antelope, j'ai aussi compris la même chose. Je pense qu'on va prendre 2 pass classiques et un pass photo puisque les prix du Lower semblent avoir bien augmentés récemment !
VA VallM17 Veteran ·
Hello,

C'est un beau programme !

Je trouve juste dommage de retourner à Panguitch les jours 5 et 6. Cette ville n'a pas beaucoup d'intérêt et ça te fait faire pas mal d'allers-retours. À ta place, je choisirais plutôt de passer ces 2 nuits du côté de Tropic ou Cannonville. Comme ça, en plus, tu gagnes quelques kilomètres et précieuses minutes dans ce programme bien dense pour aller vers Capitol Reef en J7.

Je n'ai pas encore testé mais j'ai réservé pour cet été une cabine dans le parc de Kodachrome Basin. À priori il reste des disponibilités pour tes dates et ça me paraît être une étape plus charmante que Panguitch, surtout pour 2 nuits. Et ça te fait découvrir un parc de plus ! Si ça t'intéresse : http://www.redstonecabins.com/

Sinon il y a un motel pas très cher à Cannonville et des possibilités aussi sur Tropic.
Tous nos voyages sur http://www.famille-morin.fr
IT Itat Globetrotter ·
Je confirme que le Grand Staircase Inn à Cannonville est très bien et d'un rapport qualité prix plus que correct pour un hébergement proche de Bryce Canyon !
EA Eaglefoot Veteran ·
Merci de ta réponse Virginie

Pour la distance, l'hôtel de Panguitch et cannonville sont à 20min de Bryce Canyon tous les 2 ; par contre à Cannonville il n'y a pas de resto. Et Tropic était plus cher en hôtel

Pour Kodachrome Basin, il a fallu faire des choix !!
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Hi everyone! 🙂 As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th. Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us. We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.

Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure

For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)

I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?

That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
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Ptitebulle59 5 months ago · Mitch341
What budget should I plan for 3 weeks on the US West Coast?
Hi everyone,

I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.

Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.

Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
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Arnaudbu 6 months ago · Nataly03
Need info on the road to White Pocket and Reflection Canyon
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
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Rodens 6 months ago · Nataly03
Where to stay in New York to cut costs?
Hi everyone! I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
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Coco3826 7 months ago
Feedback on West American Itinerary
Hello,

After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!

The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...

M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight

What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.

Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?

Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!

Christophe
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Usafan 7 months ago · Junkanoo
Annual National Parks Pass
Hi everyone.

I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.

So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.

This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.

Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.

The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.

Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!

That’s all for now.

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Voyage902 7 months ago · Tatra
Renting a car in the US with a deferred debit card
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
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Patoon 7 months ago
How can I tell the difference between cable cars and trams in San Francisco?
Hi VF community,

I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.

Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.

Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
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Arnale 7 months ago · Mitch341
Can you buy the national parks pass online in advance?
Hi, I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026. The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!! Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it? Thanks for your tips. Arnale
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Cup030680 7 months ago · Caussat
Feedback on a Florida road trip
Hi there,

I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure

Thanks in advance for your tips!
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Twachi06 8 months ago · Usafan
Our experience in the American West with a French-speaking guide
Hey everyone!

We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.

I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.

We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.

What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.

Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.

The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.

We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.

If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
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