Les parcs animaliers du Rajasthan méritent-ils le détour?
by Pygmalion19
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Nous sommes quelques uns à nous demander si les parcs animaliers du Rajasthan, notamment Ranthambore Tiger Reserve, valent le détour. Certains n'y voient que poussières et bruit, d' autres l'occasion trop rare d'approcher le tigre, d'autres encore se demandent si la faune est si abondante et visible que cela et en quelles périodes? Quelqu'un, quelqu'une pourrait-il répondre. A plusieurs c'est bien aussi 🙂.
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pygmalion
Bonjour,
C'est mon parc favori, pourquoi : c'est le parc où les tigres viennent au plus près et j'en connais plusieurs générations (2000 à 2016).
Le problème : le prix, c'est le parc le plus cher, tarif équivalent à l'Afrique pour privatiser une jeep (comptez 200 € par safari 3h30 ou 4h), ça calme. Sinon on peut partager des jeeps, le problème est de devoir aller d'hôtel en hôtel pour récupérer les clients (6 au plus dans la jeep). Il y a un système quasi mafieux pour obtenir les billets malgré un site internet qui vend les billets, en 2 minutes, tout est réservé 90 jours à l'avance.
Meilleure saison : mars à juin, à éviter pour moi : janvier.
Moins de faune qu'en Afrique mais le tigre est bien présent et là franchement, c'est tout simplement merveilleux.
Le système de zones : 1 à 10, les meilleures ont généralement les 2 à 5 avec le must pour la plus scénique, la 3.
Après vous avez Bharatpur, réserve tranquille pour les oiseaux, mi-novembre à février, à visiter à pied ou à vélo. Du calme, reposant pour l'inde.
Egalement Sariska, possibilité moindre de voir des tigre , certains ont des colliers, le problème ici est l'hébergement. Saison = idem Ranthambore.
Tal Chappar pour ses Blackbucks (antilopes cervicapres), peut s'envisager sur la route de Bikaner, mieux vaut y aller de novembre à mars.
C'est déjà pas mal.
Après vous avez Bharatpur, réserve tranquille pour les oiseaux, mi-novembre à février, à visiter à pied ou à vélo. Du calme, reposant pour l'inde.
Egalement Sariska, possibilité moindre de voir des tigre , certains ont des colliers, le problème ici est l'hébergement. Saison = idem Ranthambore.
Tal Chappar pour ses Blackbucks (antilopes cervicapres), peut s'envisager sur la route de Bikaner, mieux vaut y aller de novembre à mars.
C'est déjà pas mal.
Bonsoir Did et merci pour ton exposé,
Arté vient dans son journal de 19h45 de publier un document sur les tigres de Ranthambore. Ils sont en augmentation d'1/3 mais cette augmentation est fragile en raison de la pression braconnière, villageoise pour l'essentiel. Je reviendrais sur ton post un peu plus tard pour cause de cinéma ce soi. A+
Arté vient dans son journal de 19h45 de publier un document sur les tigres de Ranthambore. Ils sont en augmentation d'1/3 mais cette augmentation est fragile en raison de la pression braconnière, villageoise pour l'essentiel. Je reviendrais sur ton post un peu plus tard pour cause de cinéma ce soi. A+
pygmalion
Bonsoir,
Peut être pourriez-vous aussi contacter ce spécialiste... http://www.tigresetnature.fr/index.html
Si les villageois tuent (parfois) un tigre, c'est que parfois un tigre tue un(e) villageois(e) qui ramassait du bois et n'avait pas remarqué le tigre, endormi ou tapi dans les herbes d'un bosquet ..
C'est de bonne guerre.
Bonsoir François,
Sympa le site. A consulter sans modération.
Bonne soirée
Sympa le site. A consulter sans modération.
Bonne soirée
pygmalion
Bonsoir Anna,
Pour se venger, se protéger ou pour marchander sa dépouille?
Pour se venger, se protéger ou pour marchander sa dépouille?
pygmalion
Bonsoir Did,
Le système de zones : 1 à 10, les meilleures ont généralement les 2 à 5 avec le must pour la plus scénique, la 3.
Comment sont attribué ces zones? Par tirage au sort? A chaque réservation de safari?
Personnellement je ne suis pas obsédé par le Tigre. Donc si je n'en voit pas je ne serai pas désespéré et si j'en vois un ou plusieurs j'en serais très heureux. En fait les autres animaux m'intéressent aussi ainsi que leur biotope (paysage). Les animaux de l'Inde dans leur environnement c'est ce qui nous plaît. Le problème c'est que nous ne sommes pas tous sur la même longueur d'onde. Et là ou nous ne voulons voir que différentes espèces animales dans leur biotope d'autres visiteurs veulent absolument voir du tigre. Donc j'imagine que dans une Jeep cela ne doit pas être facile. C'est pourquoi privatiser une jeep pour ma femme et moi serait une façon de nous préserver.Est-ce possible?
Il y a un système quasi mafieux pour obtenir les billets malgré un site internet qui vend les billets, en 2 minutes, tout est réservé 90 jours à l'avance.
Tu peux développer stp ?
Le système de zones : 1 à 10, les meilleures ont généralement les 2 à 5 avec le must pour la plus scénique, la 3.
Comment sont attribué ces zones? Par tirage au sort? A chaque réservation de safari?
Personnellement je ne suis pas obsédé par le Tigre. Donc si je n'en voit pas je ne serai pas désespéré et si j'en vois un ou plusieurs j'en serais très heureux. En fait les autres animaux m'intéressent aussi ainsi que leur biotope (paysage). Les animaux de l'Inde dans leur environnement c'est ce qui nous plaît. Le problème c'est que nous ne sommes pas tous sur la même longueur d'onde. Et là ou nous ne voulons voir que différentes espèces animales dans leur biotope d'autres visiteurs veulent absolument voir du tigre. Donc j'imagine que dans une Jeep cela ne doit pas être facile. C'est pourquoi privatiser une jeep pour ma femme et moi serait une façon de nous préserver.Est-ce possible?
Il y a un système quasi mafieux pour obtenir les billets malgré un site internet qui vend les billets, en 2 minutes, tout est réservé 90 jours à l'avance.
Tu peux développer stp ?
pygmalion
Bonjour,
Je commence par le système "quasi mafieux " : les 6 sièges d'une jeep sont vendus sur le site internet www.rajasthanwildlife.in zone par zone de la 1 à la 8, 90 jours à l'avance à 00h00 indienne., zones 9 et 10 sur place. Donc en théorie, nous pouvons de France acheter 6 sièges pour privatiser une jeep. Le problème est que des petites mains indiennes les réservent tous en moins de 2 minutes...pour les agents locaux.
Le prix d'une jeep revient en théorie à 9000 roupies hors pourboire pour des étrangers mais en réalité on doit rajouter au moins 3000 de plus...
Pour réserver, il faut donc s'y prendre le plus tôt possible en indiquant les choix des zones (même si ce n'est pas assuré à 100%). Ce qui explique que la façon de voyager de beaucoup de français avec la réservation à la dernière minute ne fonctionne pas pour ces parcs.
Pour réserver, il faut donc s'y prendre le plus tôt possible en indiquant les choix des zones (même si ce n'est pas assuré à 100%). Ce qui explique que la façon de voyager de beaucoup de français avec la réservation à la dernière minute ne fonctionne pas pour ces parcs.
Bonjour Did,
90 jours, soit 3 mois. Donc si je réserve 2 ou 6 places 3 mois à l'avance par internet je ne suis pas assuré de la réservation car à l'heure indienne et 3 mois à l'avance les places seront déjà réservées par les petites mains qui alors les revendent sans doute +chères . C'est cela?
90 jours, soit 3 mois. Donc si je réserve 2 ou 6 places 3 mois à l'avance par internet je ne suis pas assuré de la réservation car à l'heure indienne et 3 mois à l'avance les places seront déjà réservées par les petites mains qui alors les revendent sans doute +chères . C'est cela?
pygmalion
Bonjour Did,
Valable également pour les TO postés en France? C'est bien embêtant 😕. Alors comment faire, réserver une place dans un transport de troupe (le camion à 35 places) et ne rien voir ni apprécier de la visite ou se déplacer à Rantambhore au risque de n'avoir aucune jeep de disponible? Autre alternative: ne pas y aller du tout!
Valable également pour les TO postés en France? C'est bien embêtant 😕. Alors comment faire, réserver une place dans un transport de troupe (le camion à 35 places) et ne rien voir ni apprécier de la visite ou se déplacer à Rantambhore au risque de n'avoir aucune jeep de disponible? Autre alternative: ne pas y aller du tout!
pygmalion
Oui c'est valable pour toutes les agences de tourisme française. Par exemple en avril, les clients d'une agence française n'ont eu quasiment que des zones 6, 7 ou 8... On peux y voir des tigres tout de même mais c'est plus rare.
C'est bien pour cela que certaines agences ne font plus de voyages incluant Ranthambore.
Merci Did pour toutes ces précieuses infos. Est-ce la même chose pour les autres parcs par exemple le parc National de Corbett ou de Benvagarth dans le Madhya-pradesh? Quand est-il de la visite du Keoladeo en Novembre (réserve aux oiseaux estimée patrimoine de L’UNESCO ) ?
Cordialement
Cordialement
pygmalion
Pour les autres parcs, il n'y a pas cette magouille pour les entrées. Par contre, bien réserver 4 mois à l'avance pour Bandhavgarh, c'était plein la dernière saison.
Keoladeo ou Bharatpur (c'est le même parc sous 2 noms), meilleur à partir de la 2eme quinzaine de novembre, les oiseaux migrateurs sont en plus grand nombre.
Si vous comptez y aller en novembre, passez en MP. Merci, réponse demain, sortie prévue ce soir.
Si vous comptez y aller en novembre, passez en MP. Merci, réponse demain, sortie prévue ce soir.
De fait sur la page dédiée aux zones: www.ranthamborenationalpark.com/...tiger-territ... on voit bien que les zones 6/7/8 sont les moins intéressantes pour les tigres mais qu'en est-il des autres espèces (prédateurs ou antilopes ou autres) ? Oui nous partirons sans doute en Novembre de l'année prochaine et il est dans nos intentions de visiter au moins deux ou trois parcs dont le Kaeladeo Ghana. Mais pour le moment rien n'est fait. Nous construisons et déconstruisons !
Un post de VF sur la question de la fréquentation des parcs: un vrai cirque à milles lieues de nos habitudes africaines. Bon ce post date un peu mais quand même: http://voyageforum.com/discussion/inde-parc-en-parc-5-bandhavgardh-d402993
Bonne soirée
Un post de VF sur la question de la fréquentation des parcs: un vrai cirque à milles lieues de nos habitudes africaines. Bon ce post date un peu mais quand même: http://voyageforum.com/discussion/inde-parc-en-parc-5-bandhavgardh-d402993
Bonne soirée
pygmalion
Au Ranthambore NP, c'est trop la foule (bruyante) .. et la probabilité de voir un tigre à moins de 30 m est selon mes informations de 1 / 15 .. mais un ami qui a pris quatre tickets (2 matins, 2 après-midis) d'affilée (obligation) a eu la chance d'en voir un deux fois.
Ceci dit, le guide dans la jeep vous montrera systématiquement des traces, fraiches de quelques heures !
Je crois que CDarnault a écrit un texte assez vrai .. tout récemment : lire ce fil de discussion :
Circuit "Réserves et tigres" en Inde avec Nouvelles Frontières
Ce qui est important est ce qui m'a été rapporté de source sure : si vous payez à peu près 100 (cent) euros, on vous emmènera (moins de quatre personnes) dans un endroit de la réserve où vous verrez effectivement un-des tigres. C'est ce que font les huiles indiennes. Sic.
Tout est question d'argent. Le touriste lambda, on le balade et dix jeeps, grosses ou petites, donnent à ces fournées un caractère "kermesse" totalement mercantile et attrape-nigaud.
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Au Bandhavgar NP, les choses ont peut être évolué mais si effectivement 30 à 40 tigres sont recensés, ils sont farouches et là aussi, la probabilité d'en voir est faible. Ce serait dommage que les gestionnaires de ce parc, éloigné des centres citadins, se soient inspirés du Ranthambore NP ..
Mais l'Inde sait "faire de l'argent" avec de nombreuses choses .. et de plus en plus.
Voilà voilà ..
Bonsoir Anna,
100€ par personne? A payer sur place pour une Jeep pas trop surchargée. La question que je me pose en ce moment est celle ci: une fois là bas comment procède t on a l'achat de ces places ou au versement de ce bakchich
Bonne fin de soirée
100€ par personne? A payer sur place pour une Jeep pas trop surchargée. La question que je me pose en ce moment est celle ci: une fois là bas comment procède t on a l'achat de ces places ou au versement de ce bakchich
Bonne fin de soirée
pygmalion
C'est assez simple : tu énonces clairement tes desiderata.
Tu demandes le prix pour être assuré de voir un tigre. Tu ajoutes que tu peux payer un prix plus élevé, que tu ne souhaites pas être en transport de masse .. mais en petit comité.
On va te donner le prix, tu redemanderas si ceci et cela seront bien "acquis", quasi certains.Bien sur, ne t'adresse pas à un quidam dans la rue, mais à un gérant d’hôtel ayant pignon sur rue. Sa réputation, si tu n'étais pas satisfait et parlais, en pâtirait .. Tu peux aussi t'adresser à un responsable du parc ou des excursions. Pas un sous-fifre ..
Avec l'argent, tout le monde s'engage plus solidement.
Ne t'inquiète pas, tu ne seras pas le premier à bénéficier d'un régime, non pas de faveur, mais directement fonction de ce que tu as payé.
Tu peux aussi ne payer que la moitié de la somme à l'avance, le reste au retour de la balade.
J'ai fait ainsi avec mon boucher-charcutier pour une petite fête que j'ai récemment organisée. Ça a marché impec. J'avais la solution de déballer des produits sous blister achetés bon marché à la supérette .. mais la qualité n'était pas au RV. Avec ce deal bien clair, j'ai obtenu un excellent service. 😏 J'étais heureuse du résultat.
Tu peux essayer de négocier le tarif à 160 euros pour deux personnes, mais parfois, ce n'est pas possible. Ton argent n'ira pas qu'à une seule personne, chacun dans la filière ayant participé à ta satisfaction recevra sa petite part. Chez nous, on paye double les employés qui travaillent le dimanche ou un jour férié.
Pour les tigres, il existe de nombreux jours fériés ! 😉
Le tourisme de masse, ça craint ..
PS : ne te fatigue pas avec les réservations à l'avance. Arrive et négocie "en grand".
Bonjour
Que pensez vous de Kanha ?
Bonjour Anna,
Merci pour ces précisions.Elles seront très utiles sur le terrain.
Merci pour ces précisions.Elles seront très utiles sur le terrain.
pygmalion
Bonjour Anna,
Merci pour ces précisions.Elles seront très utiles sur le terrain.
Si c'était aussi simple que d'aligner 160 ou 200€... J'aimerais juste savoir combien de fois Anastasia a visité ce parc... La foule s'est trouvée très réduite le printemps dernier (contrôle de toutes les jeeps, de tous les passeports à l'intérieur du parc), j'espère que cela durera.
Merci pour ces précisions.Elles seront très utiles sur le terrain.
Si c'était aussi simple que d'aligner 160 ou 200€... J'aimerais juste savoir combien de fois Anastasia a visité ce parc... La foule s'est trouvée très réduite le printemps dernier (contrôle de toutes les jeeps, de tous les passeports à l'intérieur du parc), j'espère que cela durera.
Bonjour Did,
Le point de vue d'Anna est il contestable? Y a t-il autre chose à faire ou ne pas faire?
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Le point de vue d'Anna est il contestable? Y a t-il autre chose à faire ou ne pas faire?
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pygmalion
Bonjour,
Je vais préciser mon premier post où je dis que je connais plusieurs générations de tigres de Ranthambore de 2000 à 2016 : j'y suis aller toutes ces années, j'irai cette année pour la 3 eme fois en novembre.
Revenons sur les propos d'Anastasia : obligation d'aller sur des safaris matin et après midi??? On peut très bien y aller le matin ou l'après-midi, les 2 ou même si vous êtres prêts à payer environ 1000€ la journée, vous pouvez y rester la journée et dans ce cas vous pouvez aller dans toutes les zones.
La probabilité de voir un tigre de 1/15 : tout dépend comment vous organisez votre safari. J'en vois à plus de 50%. "de source sûre" : un visiteur épisodique ou un connaisseur?
Acheter son ticket à la dernière minute : c'est le parc le plus visité, la magouille y règne donc le prix...vous pouvez aller au booking office et "batailler" avec les autochtones pour les places vendues juste avant le safari (prévoyer d'y être 2 h avant l'ouverture ). Cela peut se tenter pour un safari, je pense qu'après l'avoir fait une fois...
Grosso modo, les français qui visitent les parcs indiens chaque année, y restent au moins 6 semaines se comptent sur les doigts d'une main...
Grosso modo, les français qui visitent les parcs indiens chaque année, y restent au moins 6 semaines se comptent sur les doigts d'une main...
Justement nous pensons éviter Ranthambore et faire Bharatpur, Bhandavgarh et Kanha (au moins 2 jours par site) . Et si nous ne voyons pas de tigre tant pis, nous ne sommes pas au zoo.. Pour les villes Agra, Jaipur et en descendant vers les 2 parcs Orchha et Khajuraho .
Mais vous déconseillez décembre : les températures sont fraiches voire froides la nuit ? Mars serait-il selon vous un meilleur mois ?
MLaure
En fait, quand je repense à tous ces parcs que je n'ai visités que sur le rythme d'un de temps en temps sur une vingtaine de voyages en Inde, celui qui m'a laissé le meilleur souvenir, c'est Barathpur : par un beau matin de février, très tôt, nous étions en vélo et avons vu beaucoup d'oiseaux au milieu d'une végétation un peu fantômatique...beaucoup de brume et surtout, à l'époque, beaucoup de calme.
Did est un vrai connaisseur qui doit rester certainement plusieurs jours à chaque réserve et en connaît les codes...à l'opposé de ce que proposent les TO (du moins la majorité) qui osent annoncer 4 ou 5 villes différentes et 3 parcs en 17jours! C'est ce que nous avons vainement tenté d'expliquer à un gentil monsieur qui nous a renvoyé sur les roses et m'a conseillé de consulter un psy....
A ta place, je me cantonnerais en effet à quelques endroits et demanderais à Did comment procéder, sinon tu vas tomber sur les mêmes problèmes qui auront les mêmes effets, à savoir te retrouver dans une jeep "surbookée" fonçant plein pot sur le même chemin, le tout préoccupé d'une seule chose : trouver le tigre. Je suis comme toi, je m'en fichais un peu (quoique, ça ne m'aurait pas déplu...) mais je n'ai souvent rien vu du paysage, ni des quelques herbivores qui n'avaient pas été effrayés par le bruit du moteur et les cris des touristes indiens...A Ranthambore, nous revenions juste d'un superbe voyage au Kenya...ça nous a fait un choc...
Pour le reste de ton voyage, je n'ai connu ces villes qu'en septembre, octobre ou février où le climat est plutôt agréable. Par contre, un copain y était il y a quelques années en décembre et il a eu froid, même la journée et en plus c'est la "peak season" (beaucoup de touristes et des prix qui grimpent); mars, choisis le début du mois parce qu'à partir du 15, ce sont les températures qui grimpent très vite; si j'avais à choisir, je prendrais plutôt le mois de mars mais il faut surtout que tu demandes aux amateurs de parcs quelle saison est la meilleure pour voir les animaux.
Bon voyage
Christine
Did est un vrai connaisseur qui doit rester certainement plusieurs jours à chaque réserve et en connaît les codes...à l'opposé de ce que proposent les TO (du moins la majorité) qui osent annoncer 4 ou 5 villes différentes et 3 parcs en 17jours! C'est ce que nous avons vainement tenté d'expliquer à un gentil monsieur qui nous a renvoyé sur les roses et m'a conseillé de consulter un psy....
A ta place, je me cantonnerais en effet à quelques endroits et demanderais à Did comment procéder, sinon tu vas tomber sur les mêmes problèmes qui auront les mêmes effets, à savoir te retrouver dans une jeep "surbookée" fonçant plein pot sur le même chemin, le tout préoccupé d'une seule chose : trouver le tigre. Je suis comme toi, je m'en fichais un peu (quoique, ça ne m'aurait pas déplu...) mais je n'ai souvent rien vu du paysage, ni des quelques herbivores qui n'avaient pas été effrayés par le bruit du moteur et les cris des touristes indiens...A Ranthambore, nous revenions juste d'un superbe voyage au Kenya...ça nous a fait un choc...
Pour le reste de ton voyage, je n'ai connu ces villes qu'en septembre, octobre ou février où le climat est plutôt agréable. Par contre, un copain y était il y a quelques années en décembre et il a eu froid, même la journée et en plus c'est la "peak season" (beaucoup de touristes et des prix qui grimpent); mars, choisis le début du mois parce qu'à partir du 15, ce sont les températures qui grimpent très vite; si j'avais à choisir, je prendrais plutôt le mois de mars mais il faut surtout que tu demandes aux amateurs de parcs quelle saison est la meilleure pour voir les animaux.
Bon voyage
Christine
Bonjour François,
J'ai lu ses carnets de Pierre Chiron et admiré quelques unes de ses belles images. Son site web confirme ce qui se dit ici. L'observation du tigre n'est pas facile et donne lieu à des pratiques que nous n'acceptons pas et que nous ne voudrions surtout pas encourager (Tiger show sur dos d'éléphant ou en jeep) . Et puis je crois que Pierre Chiron est un obstiné et passionné qui n'hésite pas dans ses voyages à revenir souvent sur les sites. Ce qui ne sera pas notre cas: trois semaines au plus avant de passer notre chemin.
Je ne serais pas surpris que mettant la main à la poche ce photographe animalier puisse obtenir d'autres conditions pour les safaris, ce que nous ne pourrions sans doute pas prétendre (dans un de ses carnets 01:00 d'observation du même tigre!) .
Enfin j'ai bien lu qu'en Inde, dans les parcs, la faune est présente mais compris aussi qu'il n'est pas aisée de la voir. Alors si la poussière et le bruit s'en mêlent ! ... Je pense qu'à moins d'un revirement, nous allons laisser tomber les parcs animaliers de l'Inde pour concentrer notre voyage sur d'autres stops. Peut-être qu'à Delhi il existe un zoo ou toutes ces espèces de l'Inde seront visibles. Ce n'est pas le pied mais un pis aller. En revanche nous maintenons le Keoladeo Ghana.
Salutations à tous
J'ai lu ses carnets de Pierre Chiron et admiré quelques unes de ses belles images. Son site web confirme ce qui se dit ici. L'observation du tigre n'est pas facile et donne lieu à des pratiques que nous n'acceptons pas et que nous ne voudrions surtout pas encourager (Tiger show sur dos d'éléphant ou en jeep) . Et puis je crois que Pierre Chiron est un obstiné et passionné qui n'hésite pas dans ses voyages à revenir souvent sur les sites. Ce qui ne sera pas notre cas: trois semaines au plus avant de passer notre chemin.
Je ne serais pas surpris que mettant la main à la poche ce photographe animalier puisse obtenir d'autres conditions pour les safaris, ce que nous ne pourrions sans doute pas prétendre (dans un de ses carnets 01:00 d'observation du même tigre!) .
Enfin j'ai bien lu qu'en Inde, dans les parcs, la faune est présente mais compris aussi qu'il n'est pas aisée de la voir. Alors si la poussière et le bruit s'en mêlent ! ... Je pense qu'à moins d'un revirement, nous allons laisser tomber les parcs animaliers de l'Inde pour concentrer notre voyage sur d'autres stops. Peut-être qu'à Delhi il existe un zoo ou toutes ces espèces de l'Inde seront visibles. Ce n'est pas le pied mais un pis aller. En revanche nous maintenons le Keoladeo Ghana.
Salutations à tous
pygmalion
Justement nous pensons éviter Ranthambore et faire Bharatpur, Bhandavgarh et Kanha (au moins 2 jours par site) . Et si nous ne voyons pas de tigre tant pis, nous ne sommes pas au zoo.. Pour les villes Agra, Jaipur et en descendant vers les 2 parcs Orchha et Khajuraho .
Mais vous déconseillez décembre : les températures sont fraiches voire froides la nuit ? Mars serait-il selon vous un meilleur mois ?
MLaure
En décembre, la végétation est beaucoup plus dense qu'en mars, il peux faire froid le matin dans les jeeps ouvertes. Mars sera meilleur, attention à la date de "holi", les parcs du Madhya Pradesh seront sûrement fermés 1 journée. La végétation commencera a être moins dense. Prévoyez si possible 6 safaris par parc. Vous verrez plus d'animaux mais moins d'oiseaux à Bharatpur. Décembre si vous y allez avant Noël est un mois plus creux au niveau tourisme, pas de vacances pour les autochtones. Pour ces sites, un exemple de trajet votre voyage : Delhi, Jaipur, Bharatpur (repos après la ville), Agra, Orchha, Khajurâho, Bandhavgarh...entre les 2 1eres villes, transport en voiture puis le reste peux se faire en train, reprendre une voiture à Khajurâho...
En décembre, la végétation est beaucoup plus dense qu'en mars, il peux faire froid le matin dans les jeeps ouvertes. Mars sera meilleur, attention à la date de "holi", les parcs du Madhya Pradesh seront sûrement fermés 1 journée. La végétation commencera a être moins dense. Prévoyez si possible 6 safaris par parc. Vous verrez plus d'animaux mais moins d'oiseaux à Bharatpur. Décembre si vous y allez avant Noël est un mois plus creux au niveau tourisme, pas de vacances pour les autochtones. Pour ces sites, un exemple de trajet votre voyage : Delhi, Jaipur, Bharatpur (repos après la ville), Agra, Orchha, Khajurâho, Bandhavgarh...entre les 2 1eres villes, transport en voiture puis le reste peux se faire en train, reprendre une voiture à Khajurâho...
En fait, quand je repense à tous ces parcs que je n'ai visités que sur le rythme d'un de temps en temps sur une vingtaine de voyages en Inde, celui qui m'a laissé le meilleur souvenir, c'est Barathpur : par un beau matin de février, très tôt, nous étions en vélo et avons vu beaucoup d'oiseaux au milieu d'une végétation un peu fantômatique...beaucoup de brume et surtout, à l'époque, beaucoup de calme.
A ta place, je me cantonnerais en effet à quelques endroits et demanderais à Did comment procéder, sinon tu vas tomber sur les mêmes problèmes qui auront les mêmes effets, à savoir te retrouver dans une jeep "surbookée" fonçant plein pot sur le même chemin, le tout préoccupé d'une seule chose : trouver le tigre. Je suis comme toi, je m'en fichais un peu (quoique, ça ne m'aurait pas déplu...) mais je n'ai souvent rien vu du paysage, ni des quelques herbivores qui n'avaient pas été effrayés par le bruit du moteur et les cris des touristes indiens...A Ranthambore, nous revenions juste d'un superbe voyage au Kenya...ça nous a fait un choc...
Bon voyage
Christine
Bharatpur est effectivement une halte super sympa et reposante, pas de bruit... La solution pour la jeep : la privatiser et demander au chauffeur de s'arrêter quand quelque chose vous intéresse. La préoccupation est effectivement de trouver le tigre pour 99% des touristes et pour les guides et chauffeurs qui espèrent un pourboire plus conséquent. Ranthambore a été plus sympa cette saison après la réduction des jeeps VIP ...
Pour répondre à Pygmalion, Pierre Chéron connait très bien ces parcs, il organise des séjours pour 2 ou 3 clients et effectivement, il n'y a rien à voir avec un TO français... Pygmalion, les parcs permettent aussi de se reposer du tumulte des villes indiennes.
A ta place, je me cantonnerais en effet à quelques endroits et demanderais à Did comment procéder, sinon tu vas tomber sur les mêmes problèmes qui auront les mêmes effets, à savoir te retrouver dans une jeep "surbookée" fonçant plein pot sur le même chemin, le tout préoccupé d'une seule chose : trouver le tigre. Je suis comme toi, je m'en fichais un peu (quoique, ça ne m'aurait pas déplu...) mais je n'ai souvent rien vu du paysage, ni des quelques herbivores qui n'avaient pas été effrayés par le bruit du moteur et les cris des touristes indiens...A Ranthambore, nous revenions juste d'un superbe voyage au Kenya...ça nous a fait un choc...
Bon voyage
Christine
Bharatpur est effectivement une halte super sympa et reposante, pas de bruit... La solution pour la jeep : la privatiser et demander au chauffeur de s'arrêter quand quelque chose vous intéresse. La préoccupation est effectivement de trouver le tigre pour 99% des touristes et pour les guides et chauffeurs qui espèrent un pourboire plus conséquent. Ranthambore a été plus sympa cette saison après la réduction des jeeps VIP ...
Pour répondre à Pygmalion, Pierre Chéron connait très bien ces parcs, il organise des séjours pour 2 ou 3 clients et effectivement, il n'y a rien à voir avec un TO français... Pygmalion, les parcs permettent aussi de se reposer du tumulte des villes indiennes.
Merci pour ton message et tes conseils. Nous partons à 4, donc je pense que ce sera quand même plus cool qu'avec un TO qui transporte au moins 20 personnes.
je crois que notre trajet est trouvé, reste la période.
Cordialement
Mlaure
Merci pour vos informations. Maintenant il reste à se décider en espérant que le choix soit le bon.
cordialement
MLaure
réponses : à Ranthambore je ne sais plus, mais à Bandhawgar, on devait prendre des entrées successives. Impossible par exemple de prendre trois matins de suite, c'était matin, aprèm et matin suivant. point.
Si la possibilité avait existé, je serais restée bien plus longtemps que deux jours pleins. Une erreur de casting de la part de l'administration du parc. Les autorités de tous les parcs savent bien désormais qu'avec cet attrait pour les tigres, elles peuvent remplir les caisses.
J'allais dire "je ne sais pas si les indiens se rendent compte de ces arnaques" mais j'ai la réponse : j'en ai vu un ou deux carrément se rebeller, ayant le sentiment (vrai) d'avoir été couillonnés ... mais sur la masse d'indiens qui désormais ont les moyens de visiter leur propre pays, rares sont ceux qui ont le sentiment d'être plumés ou surtout l'audace de râler ouvertement.
Tarifs : je dirais qu'en payant de 200 à 500 euros aujourd'hui, on peut obtenir un service "garanti" .. il est aussi possible que de riches indiens payent le double.
Très souvent, si un indien propose une solution, il y a de grandes chances pour que ce soit sérieux, surtout en y mettant le prix. C'est le but de la manœuvre, n'est ce pas ?
Je n'ai pas visité dix fois, vingt fois les NP d'Inde, comme certains (chanceux) mais pour le "peu" que j'en ai vu, mon sentiment est donc mitigé. Je dois dire que dans ma petite expérience, ce sont surtout les humains (occidentaux) rencontrés à ces occasions qui m'ont le plus enseignée (pas les fauves ni les oiseaux) :
- un vieux routard de l'Inde, dont les avis étaient d'une grande richesse : une bible en quelque sorte; un homme très intéressant.
- un couple de formateurs au sein de l'Ashram d'Osho à Pune, qui m'ont renseignée de manière très sincère sur le métier qu'ils avaient exercé (yoga et méditation) durant une quinzaine d'années : un métier très lucratif, surtout lorsque les adeptes étaient japonais. Cet enseignement leur avait parmi de visiter plusieurs pays (dont ce Japon) tout en "travaillant" et de vivre richement. Cette époque est close, ont ils aussi ajouté. Ils étaient intéressants et zen.
Bonjour Anna,
Bien que ce soit à Did de répondre, merci de ce bel exposé qui finalement m'encourage à voir le voyage en Inde un peu différemment.
Bonne journée
Bien que ce soit à Did de répondre, merci de ce bel exposé qui finalement m'encourage à voir le voyage en Inde un peu différemment.
Bonne journée
pygmalion
Peut-être qu'à Delhi il existe un zoo ou toutes ces espèces de l'Inde seront visibles. Ce n'est pas le pied mais un pis aller.
Bonjour pygmalion19, Oui, ça existe www.nzpnewdelhi.gov.in/ mais je ne l'ai pas visité.
Bonjour pygmalion19, Oui, ça existe www.nzpnewdelhi.gov.in/ mais je ne l'ai pas visité.
réponses : à Ranthambore je ne sais plus, mais à Bandhawgar, on devait prendre des entrées successives. Impossible par exemple de prendre trois matins de suite, c'était matin, aprèm et matin suivant. point..
Bonjour Anastasia, sur place on vous a affirmé cela mais c'est faux, j'y vais depuis 2002 on peut toujours choisir quand aller ou pas dans le parc. Des changements sont advenus depuis 2012 : fermeture le mercredi après-midi, réduction drastique des véhicules autorisés dans chaque zone (exemple de Tala : de 50 environ à 10 par safari).
Bonjour Anastasia, sur place on vous a affirmé cela mais c'est faux, j'y vais depuis 2002 on peut toujours choisir quand aller ou pas dans le parc. Des changements sont advenus depuis 2012 : fermeture le mercredi après-midi, réduction drastique des véhicules autorisés dans chaque zone (exemple de Tala : de 50 environ à 10 par safari).
Bonjour, j'ai oublié : prévoir le transfert de Bandhavgarh à Kanha le mercredi après-midi, les parcs du Madhya Pradesh sont fermés cette demi-journée.
Merci Didier pour cette précision.
Merci Didier pour cette précision.
Pour ma part au Rajasthan, je vous recommande près de Jodhpur d'aller voir les "demoiselle crane" à Khichan, mais attention ce sont des oiseaux migrateurs alors bien vérifier avant à quelle période les grues sont là. En principe de octobre à mars inclus. Vous verrez aussi pas mal d'antilopes dans cette région. C'est un spectacle magnifique, des grues par millier, un régal pour la photo avec un bon zoom.
Sinon, oui Rathambore Park, mais il faut avoir de la chance pour voir des tigres. Nous n'en avons pas vu. J'ai des amis qui ont eu cette chance. C'est touristique, mais bon si vous aimez la photo il y a aussi quantité d'autres animaux. Autrement vous avez aussi Sariska National Park, mais je ne connais pas.
M
Merci Charles,
J'avais comprendre que Ranthambore était si fréquenté que voir une tigre ou les autres espèces surtout et en nombre est mission impossible. Pourquoi ? A cause du dérangement suscité par des visiteurs bruyants et peu respectueux . Serait-ce inexact ?
J'avais comprendre que Ranthambore était si fréquenté que voir une tigre ou les autres espèces surtout et en nombre est mission impossible. Pourquoi ? A cause du dérangement suscité par des visiteurs bruyants et peu respectueux . Serait-ce inexact ?
pygmalion
Bonjour Marie Laure
Je cherche des infos sur le parc de Bandhavgarh et accessoirement Orccha et Kajuraho. Avez vous effectué votre voyage? Pouvons nous échanger sur votre expérience? Merci d'avance
Christelle
Je cherche des infos sur le parc de Bandhavgarh et accessoirement Orccha et Kajuraho. Avez vous effectué votre voyage? Pouvons nous échanger sur votre expérience? Merci d'avance
Christelle
Le monde est comme un miroir, si tu lui souris, il te sourit aussi!
Bonsoir Christelle, oui nous avons effectué ce voyage en février. Que désirez vous avoir comme renseignements, si je peux vous aider.
cordialement
MLaure
Ah cool 😏
Que pouvez vous me dire du parc Bandhavgarh (je trouve trés peu d'infos). Visite guidée obligatoire j'imagine? avez vous vu des animaux et lesquels? Vos impressions générales sur le coin et l'aspect du paysage (jungle, brousaille??). Je ne sais rien en fait et ça titille ma curiosité 😉
Et pour Orchha et Kajuraho, vos impressions?
Nous on est trés "branché" petit bled tranquille, nature, contact avec la population voyez le genre 😎.
Est ce que ces 3 coins peuvent répondre à nos attentes selon vous (et si vous en avez d'autres dans les environs qui peuvent nous plaire, je prends aussi!)
Merci encore et à bientôt Marie Laure
Christelle
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NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Hi there,
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
Hello my fellow globetrotters, could anyone tell me how to find the French colonial cemetery in Pondicherry? It seems tricky to locate.
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
I'm looking for a small, not-too-touristy restaurant in Fort Kochi. Do you know one not too far from Jacob Road?
Thanks
Hi there,
My wife and I are getting ready for this tour from March 27 to April 8.
I’d love to know if anyone’s traveled with Salaun Holidays before? How many people are usually in a group? How much cash should we bring?
We’re also unsure about what clothes to pack..... plus sheets and pillowcases?
And if you’ve got any tips to avoid being too bothered by beggars and touts.
Any advice you’ve got would be really helpful.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’d like to travel to Rajasthan and the Ganges Valley—it’s my first time going on a long-haul trip, and I’m thinking of booking with BTtours from Belgium (or Salaün in France). Has anyone here traveled with this agency before and can share their experience? I was planning to go around November, but some people tell me it might still be pretty cold (around 8°C)—is that true?
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
Hi there.
We’re heading to India at the end of December for a month.
I planned an itinerary: Delhi, Nawalgarh, Sikar, Jodhpur, Udaipur, Chittaurgarh, Bundi, Jaipur, Bharatpur, and back to Delhi.
Our driver told us it’s not possible because there are no roads.
He’s suggesting the usual tourist circuit, which we don’t want to do.
What do you think of my route?
Any tips?
Thanks, community!
Hello,
We’re a group of 4 looking for a driver and car for our stay in Kerala from November 22 to December 12, 2025. We’ve already planned an itinerary starting from Cochin.
We’ve traveled with a driver before during our trip to Rajasthan.
Thanks for your replies!
Yves
Hi everyone,
we’re heading to Tamil Nadu and Kerala at the start of the year for 30 days. We did Rajasthan 12 years ago, but things change fast.
I’ve read that to get a SIM card, you have to buy it at a shop and then go to the operator to get a number; you’d also need an Indian mobile number. Has anyone here had recent experience with this?
For buses and trains, do you need to book them well in advance?
Any tips are welcome—thanks in advance!
Happy holidays to all,
Philippe
Hi everyone! 🙂
My partner (who’s a teacher—hence the summer holidays) and I are heading to Eastern India for 23 days in July. This is my 5th trip to India, but her first.
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
hi everyone, I’m putting together an itinerary for Sri Lanka in September 2026, so I’m focusing on the east side of the island because of the monsoon on the west coast:
Day 1 Kandy: botanical garden, fruit and vegetable market, traditional dance show
Day 2 Kandy-Ella train
Day 3-4 Kumana NP or Lunugamvehera Block 6+5
Day 5-6 Komari / Pottuvi lagoon safari
Day 7 head up the east coast along the beaches to reach Wasgamuwa NP
Day 8 Wasgamuwa NP early morning safari, then Polonnaruwa (temple and palace)
Day 9-10 Sigiriya Lion’s Rock and Dambulla, cave temple
Day 11-12 Wilpattu NP early morning safari, then late afternoon
Day 13-14 Kalpitiya, snorkeling and chilling
Day 15 return to Colombo
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on whether this route is doable—we’ll be traveling with a driver-guide.
Feel free to mention any great tips or good homestay experiences you’ve had, since we prefer those.


