j aurai voulu connaitre votre position sur le fait de partir avec ou sans
guides types lonely, routard, futé ou autres.
ne sort t on pas plus des sentiers battus sans guide?
la qualité des hebergements ne se degrade t elle pas avec les guides?
le forum VF peu t il remplacer les guides papiers?
les formats PDF vous sont ils utile?
ETC.....
a vos claviers
amicalement
benoit
citation]Sujet qui est un des marronniers de VF, mais ça marche toujours, il y aura des réponses.
salut le piaf
j ai fait ma petite recherche et j ai pas trouvé ton marronnier alors peut etre
peux tu mettre les liens corespondant?
et puis ma question est plus large quid des applications pdf ou format numerique
pour c est memes guides ?
bonne peche aux marrons
amicalement
benoit
ps j attend des commentaires constructifs plutot que blasés ou aigris ...
Salut,
Lepiaf n'a pas tort, un peu bateau ta "pensée, réflexion de voyageur" mais bon, t'es ni le premier ni le dernier à lancer une discussion maintes fois débattue.
Tiens, voilà de quoi t'occuper et étoffer ta réflexion :
je te remercie pour tes liens mais seul celui ci mentionne precisement l objet
de mon post les autres sont plus sur tourisme de masse ou preparation de
voyage ou il est fait effectivement mention des guides
ce qui m interesse c est que depuis peu les netbooks font vraiment parti
de l equipement du voyageur ce qui n etait pas le cas il y quelque temps
avec l apparition de ces poids plumes de l informatique le comportement
de certain voyageurs a pu changer et cela m intersse car je suis dans
ce cas la
je pense que c est une interrogation legitime pour nos forumistes geeks
amicalement
benoit
http://voyageforum.com/...post=2061311#2061311
je te remercie pour tes liens mais seul celui ci mentionne precisement l objet
de mon post les autres sont plus sur tourisme de masse ou preparation de
voyage ou il est fait effectivement mention des guides
ce qui m interesse c est que depuis peu les netbooks font vraiment parti
de l equipement du voyageur ce qui n etait pas le cas il y quelque temps
avec l apparition de ces poids plumes de l informatique le comportement
de certain voyageurs a pu changer et cela m intersse car je suis dans
ce cas la
Libre à toi donc de faire "remonter" cette fameuse discussion ...
si je l avait trouvé avant je m en serai peu etre servi et
elle a deja plus d un an et ne parle pas du numerique
donc un topic sur le sujet on est loin du redondant
amicalement
benoit
citation]t'es bien avancé maintenant avec ta façon de repondre a ceux qui veulent t'aider!
[/citation
salut jason bourne j ai vu ta trilogie
on doit pas avoir la meme definition du mot aider
effectivement vouloir a tout prix demonter un post avec une reponse
glorieuse du type ta question c est (du marronniers, bateau, deja vu etc ...)
ca toujours eu tendance a enrichir les topics c est bien connu..
et si tu t imagines que je suis le genre a tout laisser passer et bien tu te tormpes
ma question etait legitime je voulait simplement expliquer que grace a l apparition
des minis portables et bien je me passe des guides papiers car j ai tout les
lonely planet dont j ai besoin en formats PDF et que ma foi c est bien plus leger
pour mon sac je part pour japon singapour malaysie thailande bali australie NZ
et fidji si j avait du emmener tous les guides papiers au depart je crois que mon dos
n aurait pas aimé.
autre chose jason je n ai jamais reclamé d aide car je n en ai pas besoins car
pour moi le probleme est réglé tout dans l assus...c est plus moi qui proposait d aider
je sais aussi qu il y a une forme de snobisme concernant l ancieneté dans ce forum
a quand l apparition de grades style 2 ans t est adjudant , 5 ans general
20 ans tu est dieu...
les forumistes qui aurait eté interessés par de telles applications peuvent te
remercier car j abandonne ce topic...
BENOIT
ps un coucou aux forumistes qui nous liront dans 20 ans....
je voulait simplement expliquer que grace a l apparition
des minis portables et bien je me passe des guides papiers car j ai tout les
lonely planet dont j ai besoin en formats PDF et que ma foi c est bien plus leger
pour mon sac je part pour japon singapour malaysie thailande bali australie NZ
et fidji si j avait du emmener tous les guides papiers au depart je crois que mon dos
n aurait pas aimé.
Si tu avais commencé par écrire ceci, les réponses auraient été bien différentes, c'est trop simple de rendre ceux qui répondent de la mauvaise direction d'un sujet alors que la raison est qu'il est mal posé au départ. L'ancienneté sur le forum n'a rien à voir.
Tu feras mieux la prochaine dois.
Peut-être pourrait-on suggérer à la modération un changement de titre de la discussion (parce que je n'avais pas du tout compris non plus que vous faisiez allusion aux mini-portables dans le message initial) ?
Quelque chose du genre : internet accessible grâce aux mini-portables* en voyage est-il susceptible de remplacer les guides papiers ? ou plus court : En voyage, mini-portable ou guides papiers ? ou...
Quant à m'encombrer d'un ordi, qu'il soit petit et très léger comme, donc, ces netbooks, lorsque je voyage, non merci. Ça me serait un sujet de préoccupation (ne pas le perdre, ne pas l'abîmer, ne pas se le faire piquer, etc...) qui me gâcherait quelque peu le plaisir.
Et puis quel plaisir que de pouvoir lâcher son ordinateur, son téléphone portable, quelques semaines, quelques mois.
Et si c'est vraiment nécessaire, il est souvent facile de se trouver un cybercafé pour consulter VF, quelques pages web utiles pour son voyage.
Un guide (papier), en plus, ça s'annote, ça se complète avec sa propre expérience et, après le voyage, ça se prête voire se donne. Je ne lui donne pas plus d'importance que celle de me donner quelques infos utiles, quelques adresses. Et je garde beaucoup de recul (voire de méfiance) vis-à-vis de ce que j'y lis.
Quant à m'encombrer d'un ordi, qu'il soit petit et très léger comme, donc, ces netbooks, lorsque je voyage, non merci. Ça me serait un sujet de préoccupation (ne pas le perdre, ne pas l'abîmer, ne pas se le faire piquer, etc...) qui me gâcherait quelque peu le plaisir.
Et puis quel plaisir que de pouvoir lâcher son ordinateur, son téléphone portable, quelques semaines, quelques mois.
Et si c'est vraiment nécessaire, il est souvent facile de se trouver un cybercafé pour consulter VF, quelques pages web utiles pour son voyage.
Lorsque nous voyageons, nous avons toujours un guide-papier du pays ou de l'état américain que nous visitons (en fait j'ai un atlas sur les Amériques) et il nous a maintes fois dépanné. Mon mari ne jure que par son GPS mais je trouve qu'un guide papier est l'excellent compagnon de ce GPS. Personnellement, je me passerais bien du GPS, j'aime beaucoup plus les guides-papier.
Le GPS cela pourrait remplacer les cartes routières, pas les guides papiers, non ?
Le GPS c'est pratique en ville, parce qu'un oeil et une main sur le plan et l'autre main sur le volant, l'autre oeil sur la route, c'est très acrobatique. Sur route non, beaucoup mieux la carte qui donne une vue d'ensemble incomparable.
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Depuis de nombreuses années, mon compagnon et moi voyageons toujours ensemble (principalement en Asie). De plus, nous avons de tout temps travaillé ensemble.…
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Many of us have noticed that bugs have been making it difficult to navigate the forum lately.
I’ll let Kate and Ticapi explain the issue:
I went to your profile to check out the Thailand travel journal, and when I clicked on it, it brought me back here again. All week, I’ve been dealing with bugs like this—it’s really discouraging from continuing on VF.🙁
I had the same thing happen, and multiple times. For me, it was Montagnard’s latest journal that kept coming up no matter which discussion I clicked on.
BOLIVIA: THE COUNTRY ON THE BRINK (What's Really Happening)
A dramatic saga is unfolding before our eyes in the Andes. Between suffocating blockades, clashes, an international airlift, and historic political decisions, Bolivia has just experienced 48 hours of rare intensity.
Here’s the full breakdown (economic, social, and political) of the last 48 hours:
For travelers and tourists: the article also includes an important note about the upcoming publication (starting tomorrow) of the precise status of roadblocks, route by route.
I’ll post the full update here on Voyage Forum!
Don’t miss this in-depth analysis. History is being written before our eyes! https://www.petitherge.com/bolivie-paralysie-et-ultimatum
I just discovered a great show on Arte.
It's called "7 en route": seven young European journalists travel around Europe in a fully converted bus, making reports on every city they visit. It's amazing! 🙂
Yesterday, for example, they were in Rome, Italy, and the reports included things like the world's smallest restaurant—a super romantic spot for two. There was also a report on the king of paparazzi in Italy.
They have to pick topics that let us discover the little quirks of each country. And at the end of each episode, we get to see the finished report.
It's such a great show, mixing journalism, travel, and discovery—basically, a must-watch!
It airs in the evening starting at 6:50 PM (I think), and it started this past Monday, July 14th.
If you watch it, let me know—we can chat about it!
I left my heart’s country eight days ago and returned to my adopted one—or was it the other way around? Scotland-Morvan, Morvan-Scotland, I’m not quite sure anymore.
After a quarter without dragging my slippers around here, even though I’d loudly declared I had no interest left in this site, here I am again!
My imagination never stays fallow for long. Just enough time for my inner land to rest. It gets overgrown with fresh nettles, the kind you can pick without getting stung. Then, it’s time to till the fragrant earth and let the story grow.
I hesitated over where to set this story.
Maybe the Highlands, maybe the Hebrides, maybe the Orkney Islands, maybe the Shetland Islands. All of Scotland is myth—easy to embroider.
But in the end, no. I’d almost be too afraid to bare my soul.
The story will take place at home. Simple, practical.
1)
This morning, I was up well before dawn, feeling a bit grumpy, but nothing a bowl of coffee won’t fix. I love my bowl, and no one dares take it. It’s porcelain, edged with intertwined blue flowers. On the bottom, it says "Revol." The factory has existed long before the Revolution. It was my great-grandmother’s bowl. She drank roasted barley from it during the war, then her Leroux chicory.
Last year, a little guy dropped it. My bowl broke into three pieces. A black anger vibrated deep inside me. The little boy was so upset, on the verge of tears. How could I scold him!
I picked up the three pieces and took Little Boy in my arms. His hair smelled of the light, sweet sweat of toddlers. A gentle hug that healed—his budding sorrow and my anger—everything vanished, and time carried on.
Today, my bowl is even prettier. Man fixed it using the traditional kintsugi technique, except he didn’t use gold powder or lacquer but superglue, and he delicately painted the cracks with woad blue. And my bowl is even more beautiful now.
I’m lingering, I can tell—it’s just that a story wraps itself in life, and life can’t be told in the snap of a finger. Life is long. Like in architecture, you start with a rough sketch, called a "sous-cul" (the initial pencil drawing), then you make a tracing, which is the work itself, the one you later carefully roll up in a wooden tube.
Life is like that: you erase, you start over, you use the nub of the pencil until it’s tiny, but you keep going—dreaming, loving.
"Living is a full-time occupation, a unique adventure. Always a surprise and a wonder, which sometimes turns into astonishment. And, from time to time, happiness."*
Alright, enough digressing—this introduction is definitely too long.
Tomorrow, I’ll get to the heart of the matter.
(I hate that expression; it feels like I’m cutting into someone’s skin.)
I’m Yann, a 28-year-old TikToker who loves traveling!
Since I’ve been to several destinations, I’d love to get a flag from each one as a sort of trophy. But from what I’ve seen online, a lot of sites sell them with what looks like really poor quality...
So I’m reaching out to you all to share a site you usually use—help me start my collection! :)
hi there
I’d love to get some opinions—I’ve never used Airbnb before.
They’re offering a key handover via lockbox.
Any tips or advice?
Is it reliable?
Best,
Hi there, I’m Laura, and I’m looking for a few people to answer some questions so I can understand your travel wishes and challenges. It won’t take long—I can chat here, by email, or by phone. Don’t worry, I’m not selling anything! 😊
On this forum, we talk a lot about trekking in the Himalayas, but I’d love to share another side of Nepal: its spiritual, cultural, and religious atmosphere, especially in Kathmandu.
Nepal, much like Tibet and Bhutan, is deeply connected to the Himalayas—the ultimate sacred mountain range. This small country exudes a calming vibe, shaped by a strong spiritual dimension. What I loved most was the unique sensory experience you get there. Walking around temples and tantric monasteries, a distinct scent fills the air—aromatic plants used for ritual fumigation. Locals mainly burn Himalayan juniper, cedar, sandalwood, and other local essences. This fragrant smoke is a way to purify the space and reach the deities, and you’re constantly enveloped in these aromas.
Another striking aspect is the sound. As soon as you step outside, you hear bells ringing in front of temples. People ring them three times before praying to announce their presence to the deities. Nepal is also the birthplace of singing bowls and sound meditation practices. In Kathmandu, you can easily find meditation sessions or "sound baths."
The spiritual dimension is everywhere: a Hindu sadhu practicing asceticism, a lama in deep red robes with his mala, turning a prayer wheel while murmuring "Om mani padme hum." Newar Buddhism, Tantrism, and Hinduism coexist harmoniously in daily life.
For those who love exploring a destination through its culture and spirituality, Nepal is an unforgettable place. What was your spiritual experience in Nepal like?
Hi,
I’m landing in Quebec and then heading to New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. I’d like to rent a pick-up. My question is: does this vehicle come with a cover and is it secure enough to store luggage in? I’ve heard two conflicting opinions. Thanks
I just installed the Maps.Me app on my phone. I only recently found out about this app. I’m traveling in 2 weeks and a few days, and I’m a bit stuck on how to use it.
I’m from the Montreal (Quebec) area, and I’d love to know if there’s a kind soul out there who could help me get started and use the app at least minimally.
If there are private lessons available, I’d be interested in those too.
Like many others, I’m overjoyed to hear that VoyageForum is reopening! I’ve been waiting hopefully for this, and it’s wonderful that it’s finally happening!
I just couldn’t bring myself to actively participate in other French-language travel forums—their format and way of doing things never appealed to me as much. I really hope that VF’s structure, categories, and interface won’t change too much despite the handover, because I’m very attached to them. Through thick and thin, the site has held strong—it’s amazing!
In a previous message, François mentioned that there were positions to fill ahead of the reopening, including moderators...
I’ve been eagerly waiting for this and hoping to send in my CV.
Now, after reading the latest message, it seems like the team is already fully formed. But are there still a few spots left to fill?
I’ve been a VF member for 20 years (since 2004). I’d love to contribute to this wonderful adventure as a moderator if VF would trust me with the role. If the team is open to reviewing it, I’m ready to send my CV. Could you let me know the next steps?
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Japan in May with Voyage Privé. The package includes a 5 GB eSIM, but my phone isn’t new enough to support it. VP told me I could buy a SIM card when I arrive at the airport.
Sure enough, I’ve seen online that this is possible with different providers.
I only need it for checking routes, looking up addresses, train schedules, etc.—basically using Google Maps, TripAdvisor, and similar apps. No heavy downloads or major internet use. All hotels should provide free Wi-Fi for that, right?
Has anyone got any tips for me on this? What have you tried, and how much did it cost?
Thanks for your help!
I’d like to know if you can buy reef-safe sunscreen sprays at 7-Eleven. If so, how much do they cost? We’re traveling with backpacks, so we’ll either buy 100ml here or in Thailand.
I wanted to share a really unpleasant experience from our last trip booked with Promoséjours and organized by FTI.
We booked an 8-day/7-night stay in Egypt, from June 8 to 15.
The flight initially scheduled was changed a week before departure to take off at 10 PM from Paris CDG.
In the end, it took off with a 1-hour delay and included an unmentioned stopover in Marsa Alam.
We landed in Hurghada at 4 AM and arrived at the hotel at 6 AM.
So, we spent our first night on the plane.
For the return trip, surprise—the flight was moved up. We left the hotel at 10:30 PM on Friday the 14th to take off at 2 AM and land at 7 AM at Paris CDG.
So, we spent our last night on the plane too.
After sending a complaint letter to Promoséjours / FTI, they replied that the first and last days can be dedicated to transport (which I already knew) and that no matter how many nights you book, you’re not guaranteed to spend them in the hotel—it could just as well be on the plane.
I’m really questioning this.
Isn’t there a law that protects customers in cases like this?
Because when I do the math, the first and part of the second day were spent on transport, same for the second-to-last and last day. And I paid for 7 nights for a stay that only lasted 5.
Anyway, I just want to say thanks to them—thanks to their two sleepless nights in transit, I’m coming back even more exhausted from a trip that was supposed to be restful!
I also want to warn anyone booking through this agency about visas for Egypt.
At booking, they told me the visa was included in the price, then they sent me an email saying I’d have to pay for it on-site at 25 €.
Once there, we were directed to a special line for FTI customers, and guess what? They charged us 30 €!
Basically, they’re great at making sure you *enjoy* your vacation—mostly by enjoying your wallet!
If anyone has dealt with this kind of situation and won their case, I’m all ears.
Hi there!
I’m heading to Thailand for two months.
So I thought I’d get a Thai SIM card to use Google Maps for getting around cities, mostly.
Here’s my question: will this SIM affect my apps? Or will they work the same as with my Orange SIM?
Is there any setup I need to do, or can I just pop in the Thai SIM?
I’d also like to switch back to my Orange SIM now and then while I’m in Thailand—on the same phone. Will I need to reset the phone, or will it reconnect without any issues?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best,
Huiclos
Hi, I’d like to know where we can buy beer or wine in Chefchaouen and around Merzouga. We’ll be doing a circuit and staying at the Parador Hotel in Chefchaouen and in a bivouac in Merzouga.
Thanks for any info you can share!
Hello everyone,
I’m reaching out to all travelers and globe-trotters on this forum. I’m a teacher in Creuse working in a ULIS program (which welcomes children aged 6 to 12 with disabilities into a mainstream school). This year, I’m launching a school journal project that will involve the kids in many different topics. A big part of this journal will focus on opening up to the world, embracing differences, travel, global cultures, and more.
I’m putting out a call to invite as many of you as possible to send us a postcard (from France or anywhere in the world)! The goal is to help us "travel" and discover new places, countries, and horizons in a way that’s much more fun and exciting than a geography textbook. One section of our journal could be called "We received a letter from ," where we’d research the location and share what we learn with our readers—a really enriching activity for the classroom.
The project starts in September 2025 but doesn’t have a strict end date, since this journal and world-discovery initiative will span several school years (the kids stay in the ULIS program for multiple years). Postcards can be sent anytime—throughout the year, across seasons, even during holidays! The kids will find them when they return.
I hope this idea appeals to as many of you as possible, and that you’ll spread the word to your fellow travelers. Help us dream and explore!
For those who’d like to write to us in a language other than French, no problem—quite the opposite!
Thank you in advance for your participation! Below is our address. If you’d like us to write back, feel free to leave your address on a corner of the postcard! 😊
ULIS program students
Bonnat Elementary School
12 rue Georges Sand
23220 BONNAT
Thank you, and I hope to hear from you soon! 😊
Julien
🙂
Hi there! I have to leave Ivato/Antananarivo on December 16th. I have a lot of ariary that I’d like to exchange for euros since I might not be coming back to Madagascar (after this 21st trip). I think the exchange office at Ivato also buys ariary back. If any of you have seen the rate for this buyback in advance, thanks a million!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for a website that would let me plot my travel route in advance so I can print it out. The idea is to create a map with a little “me” on a bike that my parents can move along as I progress, since I’m planning to cycle all the way to Nepal.
If any of you have done something similar or know of a good tool, I’d love to hear your tips!
Thanks in advance! 😊
I'm looking to buy an ultra-lightweight 50/55L travel backpack with a suitcase or front opening.
Does anyone have any brand and/or model recommendations?
Thanks,
Emma
Hello. We’re a retired couple heading to Sri Lanka from January to March. After the November floods, I’d like to know if we can offer hands-on help to the locals, maybe pack some clothes or other items people might need in our luggage, and who we could give them to. Thanks for any info from those on the ground.
Be careful when sailing between Somalia and northern Madagascar.
It appears to be Somali pirates who have widened their search in the Mozambique Channel, far from their usual attack zone, since, to my knowledge, there are no Malagasy pirates.
Not sure if this is the right section, but just wanted to warn future travelers...
Where’s Cape Vidal?
It’s in iSimangaliso, an independent park in KZN Wildlife, stunning and just a stone’s throw from St Lucia (KwaZulu-Natal, Maputaland).
It’s the beach spot at the end of the Eastern Shores road. You can swim, fish... but watch out for waves, currents, and sharks...
There’s a really nice game drive where you can get out of your car at certain points, especially at Cape Vidal.
That’s where the camp with bungalows and campsites is.
The vervets and samango monkeys (endemic to the area, and the males are pretty big) can be a bit of a nuisance if you’re trying to braai...
They’re super persistent and not shy at all—don’t let them intimidate you, and stay alert because their speed at snatching food is impressive.
Anyway...
I’m reporting two recent attacks by these hyenas... who were *not* in a playful mood...
The first one happened at night—a hyena tried to bite a camper’s nose off in their tent... and succeeded.
The other night, a camper returning to their tent in the early hours was violently attacked by two hyenas... and they had a close call!
So, if you’re camping there, be careful...
Measures are being taken, but for now, it’s a bit risky.
A white rental Toyota Land Cruiser 4x4 carrying foreign tourists was attacked at the entrance of Tsingy de Bemaraha National Park in the village of Bekopaka, western Madagascar, yesterday. So far, there’s been no response from the central government to curb these repeated armed attacks—usually between Malagasy people, but this time targeting foreign tourists.
After an engine failure in mid-2016 on a long-haul flight from BRISBANE to LYON, I developed a persistent aviophobia that I’m struggling to shake off. It’s becoming more and more of a hindrance.
Up until now, I’ve been using an avoidance strategy (for example, avoiding destinations that would require any other mode of transport than a car or train), but lately, it’s become really limiting.
I’m looking for a therapist—either in-person or via video call—who could help me get past this hurdle.
