Partir seul en 4x4 faire le tour de l'Atlas au Maroc
by Marcus73
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bje prudent ou pas de partir seul se promenner a travers l'atlas nord sud merci de vos conseils
Bonjour,
Aucun Pb, si ce n'est qu'à un seul véhicule, il faut faire attention à l'itinéraire, because, si Pb mécanique ou "plantage", il faudra bien se dépatouiller tout seul.
Donc: Bien avoir conscience des capacités réelles de l'engin et du savoir faire du conducteur. Enfin, à toute chose égale, l'engin sera un peu plus chargé car il ne pourra pas y avoir mutualisation de certains équipements.
Bon voyage
Razul
Si vous voulez dire "prudent" au sens de se faire kidnapper par des terroristes ou molester par des bandits de grands chemins, oui c'est prudent, il n'y a aucun danger.
Si vous voulez dire "prudent" au sens matériel, il n'est jamais prudent de partir seul sur du hors piste et/ou en montagne. Même les grands routards qui totalisent des millions de kilomètres sur les pistes au Maroc et ailleurs le disent noir sur blanc : il est recommandé de partir à deux véhicules.
Et pour partir se "promener" donc à pied, ben c'est pareil partout. Même sur "l'autoroute" du Mont Blanc, on ne part pas seul. Après il y a des tas de gens qui le font, et 95% qui n'ont pas de problèmes. (Cependant, les structures de sauvetage au Maroc, c'est un peu moins ça qu'en France, les gms ne passent pas partout, et il arrive que dans les recoins des montagnes, on ait un peu de mal à communiquer facilement avec les berbères qui ne parlent que le berbère).
Et pour partir se "promener" donc à pied, ben c'est pareil partout. Même sur "l'autoroute" du Mont Blanc, on ne part pas seul. Après il y a des tas de gens qui le font, et 95% qui n'ont pas de problèmes. (Cependant, les structures de sauvetage au Maroc, c'est un peu moins ça qu'en France, les gms ne passent pas partout, et il arrive que dans les recoins des montagnes, on ait un peu de mal à communiquer facilement avec les berbères qui ne parlent que le berbère).
Des infos pour vivre et travailler au Maroc : http://o-maroc.com
Salut
Nous rentrons (29/04) d'1 périple de 2mois, moitié routes/pistes, seuls en 4X4 & autonomie. Certaines pistes sont bien endommagées, voir éfondrée dût aux intempéries de cette année... C'est surtout dans le triangle de AZRHOU/KENITRA/MIDELT qu'ont a rencontré le + de difficultées. Avons crevé une seule fois. Il faut bien se renseigner sur l'état de la piste, à chaque départ (on a eut des surprises) Et auprès de plusieurs personnes, car bien souvent ils ne sont pas d'accord!! Et re-surprises!!! Enfin de compte, l'idéal est de rencontrer une personne qui conduit!!!!
Bon trip...............
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Bonjour Marcus73,
Je pars également à une seul véhicule en août au Maroc, apparemment ici même le sujet de la sécurité à déjà été débattu, il apparaît après quelques recherche, car moi aussi je me suis posé cette question, que la sécurité au Maroc n'est pas moindre qu'ici, et même, certain prétendent qu'elle est supérieur, car au Maroc, on ne badine pas avec la délinquance, les peines pour vol ou autre sont nettement plus sévèrement puni, qu'ici, ou la victime à souvent tort de tenter si ouvertement le pauvre petit délinquant. Bref, je pense qu’il ne faut pas tenter le diable, comme l’on dit et puis c’est tout.
Quand pars-tu ?
Bonjour,
Nous avons toujours voyagé seuls au Maroc avec nos deux enfants (depuis 2001). Aucun problème de sécurité. Seulement il ne faut pas aller chercher les difficultés (sables, pistes très défoncées, passage d'oued en eaux, cela dépend de son expérience). Ne pas oublier d'avoir toujours de l'eau et de la nouriture avec soi. Si on prend des pistes en bon état, il y aura toujours quelqu'un qui passera dans la journée en cas de panne (et donc ne jamais bivouaquer directement sur la piste, il faut se mettre au minimum juste à côté). Après, ne pas rouler de nuit et ne pas circuler sur les pistes montagneuses par temps de pluie.
Fabrice.
Nous avons toujours voyagé seuls au Maroc avec nos deux enfants (depuis 2001). Aucun problème de sécurité. Seulement il ne faut pas aller chercher les difficultés (sables, pistes très défoncées, passage d'oued en eaux, cela dépend de son expérience). Ne pas oublier d'avoir toujours de l'eau et de la nouriture avec soi. Si on prend des pistes en bon état, il y aura toujours quelqu'un qui passera dans la journée en cas de panne (et donc ne jamais bivouaquer directement sur la piste, il faut se mettre au minimum juste à côté). Après, ne pas rouler de nuit et ne pas circuler sur les pistes montagneuses par temps de pluie.
Fabrice.
Une famille autour du monde contre la pollution lumineuse. http://www.lesquatrevieux.com
Normalement il n'y a pas de problème, attention cependant à bien se renseigner avant de s'engager sur une piste. Éviter d'y aller aussitôt après un orage. Ne pa s'y engager si les conditions météo sont mauvaises.
Voir sur mon site : http://hzj79.free.fr
PS : je rentre de 5 semaines dans l'Atlas, il y a eu beaucoup de mauvais temps
Joël Talon
http://hzj79.free.fr
salut
à mon avis le seul risque c'est effectivement le plantage, la casse mécanique ou ce genre d'incident. Donc bonne révision avant de partir, quelques outils et quelques pièces et surtout savoir dire "stop demi-tour" si tu ne le sens pas !! De toute façon au Maroc dès que tu coupes le moteur il sors quelqu'un qui arrive de nulle part ! Simplement pour partir seul il faut être un grand débrouillard, pouvoir faire face à toute sorte de situation mentalement et "manuellement". A partir de là ce n'est que du bonheur !
bon voyage
marc
marc
SALUT A TUTE ET ATOUS
RIRI
JE voie que tous le monde a bien conciance du danger
pouvez vous me dire ce que jedois faire pour mes premier voyages en autonnomie et quele equipement dois je enmener moi qui ne connais pas gand cose en la matiere amicalement
riri
pouvez vous me dire ce que jedois faire pour mes premier voyages en autonnomie et quele equipement dois je enmener moi qui ne connais pas gand cose en la matiere amicalement
riri
ben il faudrait nous dire ou tu vas , avec qui famille ? enfants ? et quel type d'itinéraire tu prévois peut être ...
marc
marc
re bonjour a toi
pour l intant je pensse partir avec ma femme et mon chien , pour itineraire je pensse encore rester en france cette anné car mon navarra estpas encre fini de preparé
donc il faut que je m equipe en reservoire eau propre et usee avent tout+tente ou cellule
a bientot
riri kiki
riri kiki
Bonjour
Mais non il n'y a pas de danger au Maroc !
Ca fait quarante ans que j'y traine les pieds et mes roues et je n'ai jamais eu le moindre problème !
Un bon parcours, à partir du barrage de Bin el Ouidane, remonter la vallée d'Ahansal, puis aller vers le Tizi N'illissi, pour tourner ensuite vers la vallée d'Aït Bougmez. Ensuite remonter par la vallée d'Aït Boulli, par Abachkou et Demnate. Couper l'Atlas vers le sud en direction de Skoura, en coupant la vallée de la Tessaout, la remonter la Tessaout vers l'est en allant vers Amezri pour sortir sur la route des casbha. Remonter ensuite le Dadés pour gagner Imilchil en traversant le Haut Atlas et gagner les lacs de Isli et Tislit pour remonter au nord vers El Ksiba.
Il y a plein d'autres possibilités
Attention aux orages
Au plaisir
Joël Talon
http://hzj79.free.fr
Bonjour à tous.
Dans les différentes interventions fort interressantes et documentées sur les pistes du Haut Atlas, il n'est pas fait allusion à la jonction El Kelaa M Gouna-El Had dans la vallée des Ait Bou Guemes (selon la carte au 1/1000000 de Michelin)
L'un d'entre vous pourrait il me dire si cette piste est normalement praticable avec un 4x4 et un conducteur prudent mais pas très expérimenté en tout terrain.
Quelle durée faut il prévoir pour le trajet?Je compte la réaliser à la mi-septembre 2010.
Merçi d'avance,
Marcailloux.
Bonjour
De El Kelaa M Gouna à Bou Thrarar par Tourbist c'est goudronné.
De De Bouthrarar à Amejgag c'est une très bonne piste.
Ensuite on remonte les gorges d'Amejgag, trés beau parcours.
A la fin des gorges on atteint Amesker et ensuite difficultés pour gagner le col.
Après c'est la descente vers la vallée de l'Oulilimt, qui je pense est très endommagée par les dernières crues. Ensuite la piste n'est pas terminée pour gagner Bougmez car il faut passer le col de Tizi N'Aït Imi.
Achète le guide Gandini qui correspond à ce parcours et tout ce qu'il y a autour, tu auras toutes les précisions concernant ce secteur.
Sinon va sur mon site tu trouveras des beaux parcours originaux que tu pourras rentrer dans ton GPS.
Cordialement
PS : Voici une photo des gorges d'Amejgag
Joël Talon
http://hzj79.free.fr
SALUT A VOUS
Pour ma part je n est aucunne indication sur cette piste desolé merci por votre message
a+ amicalement
RIRI KIKI
Pour ma part je n est aucunne indication sur cette piste desolé merci por votre message
a+ amicalement
RIRI KIKI
Bonjour,
* ****il n'est pas fait allusion à la jonction El Kelaa M Gouna-El Had dans la vallée des Ait Bou Guemes (selon la carte au 1/1000000 de Michelin) ****
meme en VTT le passage du Tizi n'ait Imi, est difficile. La liaison n'existe pas pour des 4x4, même trialiste. Le passage du Tizi n'Ait Hamed est du meme tonneau.
Photos d'avril 2010
* ****il n'est pas fait allusion à la jonction El Kelaa M Gouna-El Had dans la vallée des Ait Bou Guemes (selon la carte au 1/1000000 de Michelin) ****
meme en VTT le passage du Tizi n'ait Imi, est difficile. La liaison n'existe pas pour des 4x4, même trialiste. Le passage du Tizi n'Ait Hamed est du meme tonneau.
Photos d'avril 2010
Bonsoir,
Grand merçi à AMEZRAY, LELOUPDESBOI, et RAOULX pour vos informations. A se rencontrer peut etre un jour prochain dans le Haut Atlas, qui sait?
Marcailloux.
SALUT A VOUS
MERCI POUR VOTRE REPONSES
J 'espere un jour peut etre que l ' on se rencontrera sur les pistes ou ailleur si vous avez des infos sur votre equipements je les prends tres volontié et aussi sur vos voyages
merci d' avance.
amicalement
RIRI KIKI
MERCI POUR VOTRE REPONSES
J 'espere un jour peut etre que l ' on se rencontrera sur les pistes ou ailleur si vous avez des infos sur votre equipements je les prends tres volontié et aussi sur vos voyages
merci d' avance.
amicalement
RIRI KIKI
SALUT JEAN-PIERE
Avec un peut de retard car je n arrivais pas a mettre les photos du navarra
que je voulais t envoyeravec milles excuses
les voicis avec la 1ere verssion et avecle ard top en bache l' interieur est pareil pour l' instant
merci pour tes photos qui vont bien m aider a+ AMITIE
RIRI KIKI
les voicis avec la 1ere verssion et avecle ard top en bache l' interieur est pareil pour l' instant
merci pour tes photos qui vont bien m aider a+ AMITIE
RIRI KIKI
Pas de soucis pour le temps qui passe....
Merci pour les nouvelles.
Bons voyages à toi.
Razul
bonjour , suis nouveau sur ce forum et découvre ta question aujourd'hui ...
as tu réponse pour le tour du maroc par l'atlas ?
je connais parfaitement toute cette region car je fais de l'humanitaire dans les écoles oubliées du Ht Atlas ..
si tu as besoin de renseignements
n'hesite pas
a+
SALUT A TOUTE ET A TOUS
SOIT LE BIEN VENU SUR LE FORUM
RIR KIKI
AMITIE
SOIT LE BIEN VENU SUR LE FORUM
RIR KIKI
AMITIE
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I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;) So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals? Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;) So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals? Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
Hello,
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries? I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode? If that happens, what should I do?
Thanks in advance
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries? I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode? If that happens, what should I do?
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
Can you tell me if the road between Zagora and M'Gouna is easy or difficult for a 4x4? How much time and how many kilometers should I plan for? I’m traveling in May.
Thanks!
Hi there,
My trip to South Africa is starting to take shape.
However, I'm struggling to figure out the route through Kruger Park. I can't seem to find the information I need about getting around.
Coming from the south, I plan to arrive on Day 1 in the early afternoon at Malelane or Crocodile Bridge.
Do some shopping in Malelane (or Crocodile Bridge main area) and stay overnight outside the park.
Leave on Day 2 at 5 AM for the park. Explore the southern part of the park.
Stay overnight around Skukuza or Lower Sabie. (We don’t want to stay in one of the park’s big camps. We’re looking for a lodge around 200 €.
Head out on Day 3 for a self-drive safari, maybe as far as Orpen.
We’d like to stay in a private reserve on nights 4 and 5.
We’re not sure which one or how to get into a private reserve. Do we need to exit Kruger Park?
On Day 5, we’d like to leave to visit Blyde Canyon (on Day 6).
Could you help us with these different locations?
Thanks
Could you help us with these different locations?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m planning to leave Morocco for the summer but want to leave my 4x4 there to avoid exceeding the famous 6-month limit. I’d like to park it in one of the two Spanish enclaves (Ceuta or Melilla). Does anyone know of people or companies that handle long-term parking (preferably secure) in either place? Once the car is parked, what’s the best way to get back to France using public transport? Is the nearest airport Tanger from Ceuta?... How do I get there easily, etc. etc.
Thanks in advance! Dominique
I’m planning to leave Morocco for the summer but want to leave my 4x4 there to avoid exceeding the famous 6-month limit. I’d like to park it in one of the two Spanish enclaves (Ceuta or Melilla). Does anyone know of people or companies that handle long-term parking (preferably secure) in either place? Once the car is parked, what’s the best way to get back to France using public transport? Is the nearest airport Tanger from Ceuta?... How do I get there easily, etc. etc.
Thanks in advance! Dominique
hello! I’d like to go to Kazakhstan and rent a fitted 4x4 locally so I can drive off-road trails and sleep inside the vehicle... could anyone share some local rental company addresses, please? Thanks! !
Hi,
I'm about to rent a self-drive 4x4 in Mongolia. Has anyone heard of GOBI.RENT? Otherwise, do you have any tips for checking this company since there's no info on their website (e.g., registration number on the RCS)?
Thanks
I'm about to rent a self-drive 4x4 in Mongolia. Has anyone heard of GOBI.RENT? Otherwise, do you have any tips for checking this company since there's no info on their website (e.g., registration number on the RCS)?
Thanks
Hi everyone,
I’m finalizing my trip starting from Namibia. When I arrive in Divundu, I’d like to head straight to the Khwai area early in the morning to one of the campsites in the Khwai Development Trust. Is the drive doable with a good 4x4 in a day? We’ll spend 2 nights in Khwai, then 2 or maybe 3 nights in the Moremi area (Third Bridge/Xakanaxa/Mboma) before heading back to Maun to wrap up our journey. Is that too much time to spend in each place?
We’d also like to do one or two boat excursions in the delta. Any suggestions for the best options and operators?
Thanks in advance for your tips and advice! Best, Patrick
I’m finalizing my trip starting from Namibia. When I arrive in Divundu, I’d like to head straight to the Khwai area early in the morning to one of the campsites in the Khwai Development Trust. Is the drive doable with a good 4x4 in a day? We’ll spend 2 nights in Khwai, then 2 or maybe 3 nights in the Moremi area (Third Bridge/Xakanaxa/Mboma) before heading back to Maun to wrap up our journey. Is that too much time to spend in each place?
We’d also like to do one or two boat excursions in the delta. Any suggestions for the best options and operators?
Thanks in advance for your tips and advice! Best, Patrick
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to explore the western part of Madagascar from May 1st to 5th, specifically to visit the Tsingy. I’ve heard different versions about the road conditions and access to the Tsingy during this time, so I’d love to hear from people who’ve actually made this trip during this time of year.
Have you traveled from Morondava → Tsingy between May 1st and 5th? Was the journey doable and safe? Did you have access to the Grands Tsingy, or just the Petits Tsingy?
Thanks so much for your feedback—it’ll really help me get a clearer picture! 😊 Also, if you have any recommendations for reliable and experienced driver-guides, I’d love to hear them. Thanks again!
Have you traveled from Morondava → Tsingy between May 1st and 5th? Was the journey doable and safe? Did you have access to the Grands Tsingy, or just the Petits Tsingy?
Thanks so much for your feedback—it’ll really help me get a clearer picture! 😊 Also, if you have any recommendations for reliable and experienced driver-guides, I’d love to hear them. Thanks again!
















