Pistes cyclables en Vendée: soucis pour récupérer des traces GPX
by Bouaye
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
J'ai besoin d'aide !!!
La Vendée a fait un super effort pour les pistes cyclables et dispose d'un site entièrement dédié au vélo. Juste un souci, je n'arrive pas à récupérer les traces au format GPX.
Voici le site :
http://vendeevelo.vendee-tourisme.com/itineraire/11055-circuit-de-coex-a-aizenay.html
je récupère un fichier, je le mets sur mon appli BaseCamp de Garmin, et là, ça donne des trucs bizarres, avec des bouts de tracés normaux, puis des sauts d'un bout à l'autre du tracé. Bref, une trace inutilisable. Pourtant je charge régulièrement des fichiers de ce type, par exemple sur la Vélodyssée.
J'ai écrit au site qui me répond que, pour eux, tout est normal. Je ne suis pas un expert en fichiers pour GPS, et je n'ai pas vraiment envie de le devenir. Mais à lire ce forum, j'ai vu qu'il y a des vedettes sur le sujet. Je fais donc appel aux bonnes volontés pour m'éclairer. Reconnaissance éternelle en retour !
Le circuit suivant n'est pas mal non plus.
Dans un éditeur on voit bien que c'est une suite de segments dans le désordre.
Donc non tout n'est pas normal.
Dans un éditeur on voit bien que c'est une suite de segments dans le désordre.
Donc non tout n'est pas normal.c'est exactement le même dysfonctionnement que moi. Mais d'où ça vient ?
Il doit bien y avoir quelque chose à faire ?
Salut Christian,
voyageant sans GPS je ne saurai t'aider ; les pistes sont cependant bien fléchées sur l'ensemble du parcours. Il y a toujours parfois un poteau inexistant, ou des marquages au sol qui dans les villes ou villages ont disparu (à cause notamment des réfections des voies). Mais si tu traces le parcours sur une carte Michelin en t'aidant du site du département, tu devrais t'en sortir sans problème !
Bonne route,
seb
J'ai écrit au site qui me répond que, pour eux, tout est normal.
Mouais… S'ils faisaient l'effort de le charger par exemple sur VisuGpx, ils verraient que le fichier est mal fichu, même en virant les timetamps ou en fusionnant les deux segments.
Mouais… S'ils faisaient l'effort de le charger par exemple sur VisuGpx, ils verraient que le fichier est mal fichu, même en virant les timetamps ou en fusionnant les deux segments.
Bonjour,
J'ai déjà eu le même problème et la solution existe.
La trace GPX est composée de segments qui ne sont pas déclarés de manière consécutives : on fait un saut pour aller de l'un à l'autre et on revient au précédent, ce qui explique les traits.
Pour corriger cela, il suffit d'éditer la trace GPX (avec GPX Editor par exemple) et de remettre en ordre chronologique les segments, cela prend quelques minutes. Ensuite, il faut sauver la trace GPX et c'est fini.
Dans certains cas, on peut être amené à inverser l'ordre des points d'un segment, mais ce n'est pas le cas la trace que tu donnes. J'ai fait les corrections et la trace fait 14.6 kms.
Bon courage
Je n'ai pas trouvé comment faire dans GPX Editor.
Après avoir manipulé l'ordre des tracks pour qu'il soit cohérent puis exporté le fichier, il affiche toujours dans VisuGPX les abberations mentionnées plus haut.
Que faire d'autre?
Après avoir manipulé l'ordre des tracks pour qu'il soit cohérent puis exporté le fichier, il affiche toujours dans VisuGPX les abberations mentionnées plus haut.
Que faire d'autre?

Je vais essayer d'expliquer ...
Lorsque l'on clique sur un segment, il est matérialisé en rouge sur la partie droite. Lorsque l'on charge le fichier, et que l'on clique sur les segments numérotés 1, 2, ...7, on se rend compte qu'il ne sont pas dans le bon ordre, c'est à dire consécutifs. J'ai supprimé le segment 7. En faisant un drag and drop, j'ai remis les segments dans le bon ordre et exporter en gpx. Voici un lien pour télécharger le fichier modifié : http://dl.free.fr/wLArlsjFa
Bon courage
Lorsque l'on clique sur un segment, il est matérialisé en rouge sur la partie droite. Lorsque l'on charge le fichier, et que l'on clique sur les segments numérotés 1, 2, ...7, on se rend compte qu'il ne sont pas dans le bon ordre, c'est à dire consécutifs. J'ai supprimé le segment 7. En faisant un drag and drop, j'ai remis les segments dans le bon ordre et exporter en gpx. Voici un lien pour télécharger le fichier modifié : http://dl.free.fr/wLArlsjFa
Bon courage
C'est aussi ce que j'ai fait, en commençant par la gauche cette fois, et ça continue à être incorrect:

Pas simple 😠
Morale de l'histoire : les traces GPS même sur les sites officiels, ça peut être bof.

Pas simple 😠
Morale de l'histoire : les traces GPS même sur les sites officiels, ça peut être bof.
Je pense que tu as raison. Mais je n'ai pas trop envie de soulever le capot pour voir ce qu'il y a dans le moteur.
Pourquoi ces incidents ne sont-ils pas réglés au niveau des créateurs de fichiers ?
ça me semble plus judicieux qu'ils regardent leurs logiciels.
Parce que, si pour 14 km de trace il faut passer un quart d’heure à tout remettre en place, on ne va pas s'y retrouver...
en tous cas, merci à tous ceux qui se creusent la tête...
Encore un effort, il ne reste plus que une inversion à faire !!
En fait, avec certains logiciels cela fonctionne même si les segments ne sont pas dans le bon ordre, mais ce ne sont pas des logiciels utilisables en suivi de trace.
En fait, avec certains logiciels cela fonctionne même si les segments ne sont pas dans le bon ordre, mais ce ne sont pas des logiciels utilisables en suivi de trace.
Pourtant, l'ordre avait l'air OK dans GPX Editor. S'il faut à chaque fois 1) enregistrer, puis 2) ouvrir dans VisuGPX pour 3) vérifier que c'est effectivement bon, c'est pénible :-/
Sait-on quel est le fond du problème?
L'auteur de la trace aurait effectué les segments à différentes occasions, et aurait concaténé les segments après coup, sans faire attention à l'ordre?
Sait-on quel est le fond du problème?
L'auteur de la trace aurait effectué les segments à différentes occasions, et aurait concaténé les segments après coup, sans faire attention à l'ordre?
Je ne connais pas le fond du problème.
J'ai eu le problème avec le Loir à vélo, où les segments étaient dans le bon ordre, mais le tracé des segments n'était partout le même. Par exemple pour un tracé Nord-Sud, certains segments étaient décrit Sud-Nord. En les inversant tout est revenu correct.
Je ne sais pas comment l'auteur à fabriquer le trace, mais il y a un segment avec 2 points (le n°7). Cela sent le bricolage, mais je me trompe peut être.
Je ne sais pas comment l'auteur à fabriquer le trace, mais il y a un segment avec 2 points (le n°7). Cela sent le bricolage, mais je me trompe peut être.
De toute façon, il est probable que les parcours officiels ne sont jamais effectués en condition réelle (dans l'ordre, par la même personne, avec le même équipement, etc.) et sont assemblés après coup… ce qui impose discipline et connaissances.
Une suggestion: un simple outil de conversion de format gpx -> autre format -> gpx peut peut-être corriger le gpx.
sinon
un contournement du problème:
j'utilise www.openrouteservice.org qui permet de récupérer un gpx.
en mode vélo je demande les options (roue dentée) "itinéraire recommandé" et "ballade à vélo" il te propose un itinéraire tranquille.
si il y a des itinéraires cyclables alors il va les inclure. Il y a des fortes chance qu'il te propose tes itinéraires cyclables à condition qu'il soient enregistrés sur openstreetmap.
je l'ai testé pour ma randonnée au pied des Pyrénées de Bayonne à Rivesaltes (500 km). il a bien inclus les morceaux existant de la V80. J'ai pu importer dans OSMAND sur Android l'itinéraire sans problème et le suivre en mode carte et en mode routage(déconseillé car ça vide la batterie en un rien de temps)
note: le "I" en haut à droite permet de franciser l'interface
j'utilise www.openrouteservice.org qui permet de récupérer un gpx.
en mode vélo je demande les options (roue dentée) "itinéraire recommandé" et "ballade à vélo" il te propose un itinéraire tranquille.
si il y a des itinéraires cyclables alors il va les inclure. Il y a des fortes chance qu'il te propose tes itinéraires cyclables à condition qu'il soient enregistrés sur openstreetmap.
je l'ai testé pour ma randonnée au pied des Pyrénées de Bayonne à Rivesaltes (500 km). il a bien inclus les morceaux existant de la V80. J'ai pu importer dans OSMAND sur Android l'itinéraire sans problème et le suivre en mode carte et en mode routage(déconseillé car ça vide la batterie en un rien de temps)
note: le "I" en haut à droite permet de franciser l'interface
Bien sûr, on peut redessiner soi-même un parcours, mais c'est quand même agaçant que les parcours ne fonctionnent pas alors qu'on les récupère de sites qui ont officiellement pour but de promouvoir le cyclotourisme.
Dans le même genre, voir la galère pour récupérer un itinéraire complet sur le site FranceVeloTourisme : il faut cliquer manuellement sur chaque étape pour obtenir un GPX, et importer chaque fichier dans son GPS.
Et pourtant, on est en 2017 et les mecs ont tous un GPS dans leur bagnole.
Dans le même genre, voir la galère pour récupérer un itinéraire complet sur le site FranceVeloTourisme : il faut cliquer manuellement sur chaque étape pour obtenir un GPX, et importer chaque fichier dans son GPS.
Et pourtant, on est en 2017 et les mecs ont tous un GPS dans leur bagnole.
et ma suggestion de conversion dans un autre format pour corriger les erreurs?
autrefois j'utilisais gpsbabel
autrefois j'utilisais gpsbabel
De GPX en KML et retour? Pourquoi est-ce que ça corrigerait des erreurs dans la création du fichier d'origine?
-- Edit : de fait, ça fonctionne si on utilise GpsBabel pour convertir le GPX d'origine en KML, avant de le reconvertir en GPX:
GPX to KML gpsbabel -w -r -t -i gpx -f C:/Piste_64.gpx -x nuketypes, waypoints -o kml -F C:/Piste_64.gpsbabel.kml
KML to GPX gpsbabel -w -r -t -i kml -f C:/Piste_64.gpsbabel.kml -x nuketypes, waypoints -o gpx -F C:/Piste_64.gpsbabel.back.gpx
Ce sont les paramètres utilisés par défaut par l'interface graphique de GpsBabel.
Un peu laborieux, mais solution si on a juste quelques fichiers à corriger.
-- Edit : de fait, ça fonctionne si on utilise GpsBabel pour convertir le GPX d'origine en KML, avant de le reconvertir en GPX:
GPX to KML gpsbabel -w -r -t -i gpx -f C:/Piste_64.gpx -x nuketypes, waypoints -o kml -F C:/Piste_64.gpsbabel.kml
KML to GPX gpsbabel -w -r -t -i kml -f C:/Piste_64.gpsbabel.kml -x nuketypes, waypoints -o gpx -F C:/Piste_64.gpsbabel.back.gpx
Ce sont les paramètres utilisés par défaut par l'interface graphique de GpsBabel.
Un peu laborieux, mais solution si on a juste quelques fichiers à corriger.
oui j'ai pensé à ça car j'utilise le même procédé pour corriger des video ts un peu vérolées en les convertissant en mp4
Bonjour Bouaye,
Plusieurs approches :
1 - ne pas utiliser de gps : suivre le balisage (ou pas), demander le chemin aux locaux 2 - utiliser un GPS parce que les locaux ne sont pas forcément nomades, et ne font pas forcément du vélo
Suggestion en cas d'adoption de l'approche 2 :
a - mettre les traces récupérées en vrac dans Google Earth b - re-dessiner le parcours dans Google Earth au dessus des traces brutes (avec une couleur distinctive) c - exporter au format kml d - convertir au format gpx (nombreux sites en ligne)
Cette approche a plusieurs avantages. Déjà cela supprime les chevauchements. Ensuite l'outil étant très visuel et disposant d'une multitude de couches, cela donne l'impression d'être sur le terrain avant même d'avoir commencé. On entre dans le voyage avant le premier tour de roue.
Pierre
https://aventuregps.wordpress.com/ https://loireavelo.wordpress.com/ https://velodysseehorssaison.wordpress.com/ https://dahuenbretagne.wordpress.com/
Plusieurs approches :
1 - ne pas utiliser de gps : suivre le balisage (ou pas), demander le chemin aux locaux 2 - utiliser un GPS parce que les locaux ne sont pas forcément nomades, et ne font pas forcément du vélo
Suggestion en cas d'adoption de l'approche 2 :
a - mettre les traces récupérées en vrac dans Google Earth b - re-dessiner le parcours dans Google Earth au dessus des traces brutes (avec une couleur distinctive) c - exporter au format kml d - convertir au format gpx (nombreux sites en ligne)
Cette approche a plusieurs avantages. Déjà cela supprime les chevauchements. Ensuite l'outil étant très visuel et disposant d'une multitude de couches, cela donne l'impression d'être sur le terrain avant même d'avoir commencé. On entre dans le voyage avant le premier tour de roue.
Pierre
https://aventuregps.wordpress.com/ https://loireavelo.wordpress.com/ https://velodysseehorssaison.wordpress.com/ https://dahuenbretagne.wordpress.com/
Merci pour les conseils, mais je tiens à préciser que je ne suis pas dans la panique...
en fait, je fais moi-mm mes parcours avec les cartes IGN 25 millième, très chères mais très bien.
et ça marche.
sauf que de temps en temps, j'aime bien récupérer du boulot tout fait et que là, ce n'est pas possible. techniquement, ça me semble un peu absurde de produire des traces qu'on ne peut pas lire. je pensais avoir mal paramétré mon appli, mais ça en semble pas être le cas puisque plusieurs autres membres du forum rencontrent les mêmes difficultés.
sauf que de temps en temps, j'aime bien récupérer du boulot tout fait et que là, ce n'est pas possible. techniquement, ça me semble un peu absurde de produire des traces qu'on ne peut pas lire. je pensais avoir mal paramétré mon appli, mais ça en semble pas être le cas puisque plusieurs autres membres du forum rencontrent les mêmes difficultés.
J'avais testé moi aussi (voir capture de la trace sur St Gilles Croix de Vie!!!) et voyant le résultat j'avais envoyé un mail à vendée-tourisme :
Suite à un message dans voyage forum je viens de télécharger sur le site vendeevelo.vendee-tourisme une de vos trace autour de St Gilles ou je dois me rendre prochainement.
Pensez-vous que ce soit utilisable ????? (voir pj).
C’est une très bonne in initiative de proposer les traces encore faudrait-il les tester avant de les diffuser !
J'ai reçu hier la réponse suivante:
Bonjour Monsieur,
Nous vous prions de bien vouloir nous excusez pour la gêne occasionnée suite aux problèmes de lecture des itinéraires GPS sur le site Vendée Vélo.
Nous vous informons que le problème de lisibilité des itinéraires téléchargeables sur notre site Internet a bien été pris en charge par nos services et que nous sommes actuellement en train de mettre à jour les fichiers GPX. Les nouveaux fichiers sont remis sur le site Vendée Vélo au fur et à mesure que nous les actualisons.
En attendant que l’ensemble des fichiers soient mis à jour, si vous le souhaitez, nous pouvons vous adresser l’itinéraire qui vous intéresse afin de vous permettre d’en disposer pendant votre séjour.
Vous remerciant de l’intérêt que vous portez à notre département.
Cordialement.
Sylviane RAMBAUD Chef de projet SI
Plus la peine de bidouiller, demandezà vendeevelo (http://vendeevelo.vendee-tourisme.com), mail de contact sur le site.

Suite à un message dans voyage forum je viens de télécharger sur le site vendeevelo.vendee-tourisme une de vos trace autour de St Gilles ou je dois me rendre prochainement.
Pensez-vous que ce soit utilisable ????? (voir pj).
C’est une très bonne in initiative de proposer les traces encore faudrait-il les tester avant de les diffuser !
J'ai reçu hier la réponse suivante:
Bonjour Monsieur,
Nous vous prions de bien vouloir nous excusez pour la gêne occasionnée suite aux problèmes de lecture des itinéraires GPS sur le site Vendée Vélo.
Nous vous informons que le problème de lisibilité des itinéraires téléchargeables sur notre site Internet a bien été pris en charge par nos services et que nous sommes actuellement en train de mettre à jour les fichiers GPX. Les nouveaux fichiers sont remis sur le site Vendée Vélo au fur et à mesure que nous les actualisons.
En attendant que l’ensemble des fichiers soient mis à jour, si vous le souhaitez, nous pouvons vous adresser l’itinéraire qui vous intéresse afin de vous permettre d’en disposer pendant votre séjour.
Vous remerciant de l’intérêt que vous portez à notre département.
Cordialement.
Sylviane RAMBAUD Chef de projet SI
Plus la peine de bidouiller, demandezà vendeevelo (http://vendeevelo.vendee-tourisme.com), mail de contact sur le site.

Merci pour ta réponse et ta démarche.
Il se trouve que je leur avais envoyé exactement le même message voici un ou deux ans ; et ils m'ont fait la même réponse.
Bon, à part ça, ils sont charmants, et je me procure régulièrement leur brochure très bien faite (en papier), gratuite dans tous les offices de tourisme. Et je me débrouille très bien avec.
sinon ils ont une appli pour smartphone pas mal du tout. on est guidés tout el long du trajet, pas possible de s'écarter par inadvertance (quand il manque un panneau par exemple).
ce qui me chiffonne, c'est pourquoi ce bug dans la reproduction de traces GPX ? c'est bizarre que pas plus de monde ne se manifeste ! à quoi sert une trace qu'on ne peut lire qu'en la triturant avec un tas de trucs dont je ne suis pas certain d'avoir compris tous les détails.
A suivre... en tous cas, j'ai parcouru toutes les véloroutes de Vendée (je n'habite pas loin) : elles sont exemplaires parce que bien indiquées (vraiment bien : pour se perdre il faut le faire exprès), bien revêtues et entretenues, et joliment tracées, par exemple dans le marais, sur des pistes en pilotis (entre St Gilles et les Sables par exemple). et les routes empruntées sont très calmes. bon, l'été, il vaut mieux éviter la côte, c'est l'horreur des embouteillages sur les pistes.
ce qui me chiffonne, c'est pourquoi ce bug dans la reproduction de traces GPX ? c'est bizarre que pas plus de monde ne se manifeste ! à quoi sert une trace qu'on ne peut lire qu'en la triturant avec un tas de trucs dont je ne suis pas certain d'avoir compris tous les détails.
A suivre... en tous cas, j'ai parcouru toutes les véloroutes de Vendée (je n'habite pas loin) : elles sont exemplaires parce que bien indiquées (vraiment bien : pour se perdre il faut le faire exprès), bien revêtues et entretenues, et joliment tracées, par exemple dans le marais, sur des pistes en pilotis (entre St Gilles et les Sables par exemple). et les routes empruntées sont très calmes. bon, l'été, il vaut mieux éviter la côte, c'est l'horreur des embouteillages sur les pistes.
Peut-être que 1) peu de gens téléchargent ces fichiers, et parmi ceux qui le font 2) la plupart passent leur chemin une fois constaté que les fichiers sont pourris → ils trouvent une trace ailleurs ou le refont eux-même.
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I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share with you the incredible feat my friend José, who’s 72 years old, is currently undertaking. He left Auterive near Toulouse on Monday, May 18, 2026, on his non-electric bike, heading for the North Cape in Norway!
You can follow his route on the link below—he’s currently in Sweden:
https://thierry-thomas.travelmap.net/jose-de-toulouse-a-nord-cap-2026
You can zoom in on the map and click on each stopover town to see the photos
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hello there, pedal-powered Young Boys!
Claudio (still from Faverges)
dreaming about a cycling getaway in Italy from Faverges (train all the way to Turin)
from Turin down to Venice along the Po River and back via the Padana (Alta Italia da attraversare – Northern Italy to cross)
The tricky part is getting from Chioggia to Venice.
I read it’s possible by hopping on a boat from island to island,
but it sounds a bit stressful.
Has anyone already tackled this route?
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio

Hi there,
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
