J'ai lu que si on le voulait, embarquer dans le train Yamanote, payer 160y faire le tour de la ligne et en resortant a la même station, on pouvait faire un tour de la ville assez rapide et à ce prix...est-ce exact??
Prendre le train Yamanote Line au Japon
by Robertlesage
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Question très simplet.
J'ai lu que si on le voulait, embarquer dans le train Yamanote, payer 160y faire le tour de la ligne et en resortant a la même station, on pouvait faire un tour de la ville assez rapide et à ce prix...est-ce exact??
J'ai lu que si on le voulait, embarquer dans le train Yamanote, payer 160y faire le tour de la ligne et en resortant a la même station, on pouvait faire un tour de la ville assez rapide et à ce prix...est-ce exact??
Salut !
Alors oui c'est possible, le prix c'est 160y. Par contre si tu resort a la meme station tu va faire biper les ticket gates. ^^ Il te suffit de t'arreter une station avant ou après. ( Ou sinon ya dans 90% des cas un gars a coté des barière tu lui fait voir ton ticket et tu passe).
Mais sinon je vois pas trop le sens de ta question ? tu veux prendre un billet aller retour pour tokyo faire le tour de la yamanote en une heure et revenir chez toi ? ^^
Alors oui c'est possible, le prix c'est 160y. Par contre si tu resort a la meme station tu va faire biper les ticket gates. ^^ Il te suffit de t'arreter une station avant ou après. ( Ou sinon ya dans 90% des cas un gars a coté des barière tu lui fait voir ton ticket et tu passe).
Mais sinon je vois pas trop le sens de ta question ? tu veux prendre un billet aller retour pour tokyo faire le tour de la yamanote en une heure et revenir chez toi ? ^^
La yamanote a déjà servi a toutes des activités que le JR n'aiment pas. Les américains expatriés s'enservent comme point de rendez-vous le soir d'halloween, déguisé comme il se doit. 1 h de fête a bord le temps de faire un tour de ville et de ramasser tout le monde avant d'aller ailleurs.
On remarque au passage le sans gène des américains qui contraste avec le savoir vivre japonais. On comprends que le JR n'apprécient pas.
Si non, le tour de la Yamanote est un sport d'Otaku bien connu au japon.
tu veux prendre un billet aller retour pour tokyo faire le tour de la yamanote en une heure et revenir chez toi ? ^^
On remarque au passage le sans gène des américains qui contraste avec le savoir vivre japonais. On comprends que le JR n'apprécient pas.
Si non, le tour de la Yamanote est un sport d'Otaku bien connu au japon.
tu veux prendre un billet aller retour pour tokyo faire le tour de la yamanote en une heure et revenir chez toi ? ^^
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le but est surtout de faire un survol de la ville, vu que cette ligne de train est extérieur....j'ai vu la suggestion dans le Lonely planet je crois.....
Ok;) Je m'en douter un peut mais j'aimer mieux demander.
Ba perso j'ai jamais fait ( enfin si quand je m'endors lol ), c'est pas trop ma facon de visiter mais je pense que ca peut etre simpas si ta pas trop le temps mais bon faut faire d'autre truc a coté ;)
Pour le sans gène des Américains et la plus part des occidentaux d'ailleur je préfére pas m'etendre sur le sujet ici . ( Le pire c'est que le japon pour moi c'est un peu un états des USA a voir comment il ce comporte et tous les echanges a sens uniques entre les banques japonaise et américaine ...)
Ba perso j'ai jamais fait ( enfin si quand je m'endors lol ), c'est pas trop ma facon de visiter mais je pense que ca peut etre simpas si ta pas trop le temps mais bon faut faire d'autre truc a coté ;)
Pour le sans gène des Américains et la plus part des occidentaux d'ailleur je préfére pas m'etendre sur le sujet ici . ( Le pire c'est que le japon pour moi c'est un peu un états des USA a voir comment il ce comporte et tous les echanges a sens uniques entre les banques japonaise et américaine ...)
hum ..j'aimerai comprendre ce que tu veux dire par le sans gene des americain ou occidentaux, non pas que je le prenent mal...point du tout j'aime pas les maniere en general des americain mais etant une occidental je peux avoir des comportement deplacer. y a t-il des comportements a avoir sur les ligne de transports ou autre?
Franchement, rester dans le train tout du long sur la Yamanote Line, ça n'est vraiment pas très intéressant. J'ai du mal à imaginer que le Lonely conseille quelque chose d'aussi stupide... Le survol de la ville en train ? Idéal... pour ne rien voir. Pour découvrir la ville, fais des étapes et, tout en suivant la Yamanote (si tu y tiens...) descend régulièrement dans les différents quartiers.
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I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)