Je suis dégoûtée. J'ai envoyé un mail dans un beau lodge ou le prix du logement est différent pour les indiens et les occidentaux. J'ai envoyé un mail en demandant pourquoi et voilà la réponse. "... Votre argent soutiendra plus de 100 familles, c'est pourquoi nous pratiquons un prix différent." Déjà qu'on paie 40 fois plus que les indiens le prix d'entrée dans certains parcs, 1000 rps pour les étrangers, 20 rps pour les indiens, et maintenant pour se loger certains font la différence aussi! Shanti, shanti, ouais, faut pas pousser bobonne, elle est a marre la bobonne!😠
Prix touriste et prix indien
by Parvat
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
Je suis dégoûtée. J'ai envoyé un mail dans un beau lodge ou le prix du logement est différent pour les indiens et les occidentaux. J'ai envoyé un mail en demandant pourquoi et voilà la réponse. "... Votre argent soutiendra plus de 100 familles, c'est pourquoi nous pratiquons un prix différent." Déjà qu'on paie 40 fois plus que les indiens le prix d'entrée dans certains parcs, 1000 rps pour les étrangers, 20 rps pour les indiens, et maintenant pour se loger certains font la différence aussi! Shanti, shanti, ouais, faut pas pousser bobonne, elle est a marre la bobonne!😠
Je suis dégoûtée. J'ai envoyé un mail dans un beau lodge ou le prix du logement est différent pour les indiens et les occidentaux. J'ai envoyé un mail en demandant pourquoi et voilà la réponse. "... Votre argent soutiendra plus de 100 familles, c'est pourquoi nous pratiquons un prix différent." Déjà qu'on paie 40 fois plus que les indiens le prix d'entrée dans certains parcs, 1000 rps pour les étrangers, 20 rps pour les indiens, et maintenant pour se loger certains font la différence aussi! Shanti, shanti, ouais, faut pas pousser bobonne, elle est a marre la bobonne!😠
Fainéanter dans un monde neuf est la plus absorbante des occupations... (N.Bouvier)
Va juste ailleurs, ce n'est pas du tout courant pour les logements en Inde. D'ailleurs le contraire existe aussi, moins cher si on est un etranger sac a dos que des Indiens arrivant en 4x4.
Il n'y a pas qu'en Inde qu existe une double ou triple tarification...
Après, sur place, ça peut se négocier hors saison pour tout ce qui est du domaine privé.
Ce que je trouve le plus gênant, c'est de payer plus cher pour des prestations auxquelles n'ont recours que des locaux ayant un même niveau de vie que moi.
Payer plus que l'Indien lambda qui gagne des clopinettes pour voir le Taj Mahal, oui .
Payer plus que l'indien fortuné pour loger dans le même palace que lui, non.
Après, sur place, ça peut se négocier hors saison pour tout ce qui est du domaine privé.
Ce que je trouve le plus gênant, c'est de payer plus cher pour des prestations auxquelles n'ont recours que des locaux ayant un même niveau de vie que moi.
Payer plus que l'Indien lambda qui gagne des clopinettes pour voir le Taj Mahal, oui .
Payer plus que l'indien fortuné pour loger dans le même palace que lui, non.
Exactement! 🙂
J'en parlais avec Niclaude tout à l'heure, "Ce que je trouve le plus gênant, c'est de payer plus cher pour des prestations auxquelles n'ont recours que des locaux ayant un même niveau de vie que moi."
Si pas supérieur... Et payer plus cher pour exactement les même prestations...
De plus j'aide à mon niveau qui je veux! Même à distance ils nous prennent pour des DAB...
Fainéanter dans un monde neuf est la plus absorbante des occupations... (N.Bouvier)
Tout à fait !
Il faut leur dire , ça finira par entrer , et surtout , ne pas ou plus aller chez eux dans ces conditions .
Mais aller chez ceux qui ne pratiquent pas cette politique .
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
Hello 😉
Tu en as mis du temps avant de te rendre compte que ...
... le prix du logement est différent pour les indiens et les occidentaux.
Je l'avais déjà noté en décembre ... 2006 😛 à Baripada (Orissa) d'où je voulais me rendre dans le Similipal Park.
En plus du prix doublé des logements dans les lodges du parc (de 400Rs à 800Rs) il me fallait payer 1.600Rs pour une journée de jeep, 1.000Rs de droit d'entrée pour un étranger au lieu de 40Rs pour un Indien, 100Rs d'entrée pour ... la jeep, 40Rs pour l'entrée ... du chauffeur et last but not lease ( encore que une fois sur place y'aurait peut être eu des surprises) 100Rs pour l'appareil photo. Du coup j'y suis pas allé 😐.
Rien n'a changé : www.similipal.org/accommodation.php
Inde, pays en voie de sous-développement. Constatation personnelle 🤪
L'Inde enseigne à accepter l'inévitable avec sérénité Alexander Frater - A la poursuite de la mousson (1991)
PS c'est qui ces gens qui se préoccupent si gentiment de (ton) argent (qui) soutiendra plus de 100 familles 🏴☠️
Amarkantak (MP), 1er Janvier 2012
Tu en as mis du temps avant de te rendre compte que ...
... le prix du logement est différent pour les indiens et les occidentaux.
Je l'avais déjà noté en décembre ... 2006 😛 à Baripada (Orissa) d'où je voulais me rendre dans le Similipal Park.
En plus du prix doublé des logements dans les lodges du parc (de 400Rs à 800Rs) il me fallait payer 1.600Rs pour une journée de jeep, 1.000Rs de droit d'entrée pour un étranger au lieu de 40Rs pour un Indien, 100Rs d'entrée pour ... la jeep, 40Rs pour l'entrée ... du chauffeur et last but not lease ( encore que une fois sur place y'aurait peut être eu des surprises) 100Rs pour l'appareil photo. Du coup j'y suis pas allé 😐.
Rien n'a changé : www.similipal.org/accommodation.php
Inde, pays en voie de sous-développement. Constatation personnelle 🤪
L'Inde enseigne à accepter l'inévitable avec sérénité Alexander Frater - A la poursuite de la mousson (1991)
PS c'est qui ces gens qui se préoccupent si gentiment de (ton) argent (qui) soutiendra plus de 100 familles 🏴☠️
Amarkantak (MP), 1er Janvier 2012"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Hello Raga 🙂
Bé oui mais ca ne m'était jamais arrivé. Déjà que je ne vais vraiment pas souvent dans les hôtels à+ de 1000 roupies, et ceux ou j'ai été ne faisaient pas de différence... Le parc Similipal ou les autres, oui je sais, c'est pareil dans tous les parcs, c'est pour ca que je n'y ai jamais été. (sauf à Bharatpur ou ce n'était pas grand chose et Bhitakarnika ou j'ai été invitée :)) Amarkantak je n'y ai jamais été, j'envie mais ta photo ne donne pas envie :o) Le lodge dont je parle est le Mangalajodi eco tourism, quoi que je viens devoir sur airbb qu'ils font le prix indien! Je me demande s'ils s'en tiendront à ce prix là si on réserve par airbb...
L'Inde enseigne à accepter l'inévitable avec sérénité " (Alexander Frater) Très joli 😎
Bé oui mais ca ne m'était jamais arrivé. Déjà que je ne vais vraiment pas souvent dans les hôtels à+ de 1000 roupies, et ceux ou j'ai été ne faisaient pas de différence... Le parc Similipal ou les autres, oui je sais, c'est pareil dans tous les parcs, c'est pour ca que je n'y ai jamais été. (sauf à Bharatpur ou ce n'était pas grand chose et Bhitakarnika ou j'ai été invitée :)) Amarkantak je n'y ai jamais été, j'envie mais ta photo ne donne pas envie :o) Le lodge dont je parle est le Mangalajodi eco tourism, quoi que je viens devoir sur airbb qu'ils font le prix indien! Je me demande s'ils s'en tiendront à ce prix là si on réserve par airbb...
L'Inde enseigne à accepter l'inévitable avec sérénité " (Alexander Frater) Très joli 😎
Fainéanter dans un monde neuf est la plus absorbante des occupations... (N.Bouvier)
Bé oui mais ca ne m'était jamais arrivé.
En même temps, on ne le sait pas tout le temps!
En même temps, on ne le sait pas tout le temps!
Payer plus que l'Indien lambda qui gagne des clopinettes pour voir le Taj Mahal, oui .
Payer plus que l'indien fortuné pour loger dans le même palace que lui, non.
Absolument d'accord !!! Mais nous (deux de mes meilleurs potes indiens et moi qui voyageons actuellement ensemble) avons remarqué que malheureusement la plupart des indiens pauvres ne vont pas visiter les palais et musées que visitent les riches. Mes amis indiens m'ont maintes fois fait remarquer que les touristes indiens (tous Etats confondus) ne s'intéressent ni aux monuments historiques en tant que tels, ni à l'architecture, et encore moins aux somptueux paysages qu'ils visitent (d'où les gamelles et gobelets en cartons, sachets de chips et autres saloperies qui envahissent désormais des coins paradisiaques, encore intacts il y a seulement 4 ou 5 ans et d'après eux ça ne va pas aller en s'améliorant au fur et à mesure du développement touristique indien à grande échelle. Ce qui les passionne c'est de se prendre en photos, même devant un tas d'immondices. Vivant en Inde de 6 à 8 mois sur 12, parfois davantage, fréquentant plusieurs familles indiennes, vivant souvent chez elles comme eux-mêmes et connaissant maintenant très bien ce pays avec des yeux "indiens" et non un regard de touriste qui occulte la réalité, je sais maintenant que même l'indien "moyen" qui voyage, compte tenu de son pouvoir d'achat, a plus d'argent que je n'en ai moi-même. Mon ami prof gagne 30 000 Rs = moins de 400 euros par mois. Et il vit particulièrement bien, il a une superbe grande maison dont je ne pourrais pas me payer l'équivalent en France. Son frère qui est mon meilleur ami, tire un peu le diable par la queue par moments avec ses 15000 Rs mensuels soit moins de 200 euros dit qu'il n'a pas à se plaindre, il a aussi sa propre maison, s'est même acheté une chouette voiture d'occasion depuis deux ans. Donc il faut arrêter de dire "le pauvre", il ne gagne que 150 euros par mois ! En revanche les centaines de millions d'indiens qui vivent dans des taudis et des bidonvilles ou couchent dans la rue dans des conditions aussi dramatiques que sordides n'émeuvent pas leurs compatriotes, les indiens riches (et moins riches) s'en foutent complètement et ceux-là n'iront jamais visiter le Taj ou autre Fort, Palais, Musée, etc... Et la réponse de l’hôtelier à Parvat est ignoble car ils ne feront jamais un geste pour aider les plus démunis. En conclusion : peu de gens savent que ces tarifs de visites des monuments, est en fait la conservation d'une ancienne règlementation des anglais qui avaient compris qu'il y avait du fric à tirer aussi de ce côté là. A cette époque ce n'était pas le touriste lambda qui visitait l'Inde. Et l'indien, lui, ne bougeait pas de son coin, pas de risque qu'il aille visiter des palais et des musées. Donc facile de décréter, apparemment démocratiquement, en faveur de l'indien, tel prix pour les indiens et 50 fois plus pour les étrangers. Ben voyons ! Ça ne leur suffisait pas de piller les trésors de l'Inde à tous les niveaux. (L'Angleterre refuse toujours de rendre à l'Inde, le Kohinor "confisqué" à je ne sais plus quel Maharadja. Pas volé, bien sûr, seulement confisqué...)
Payer plus que l'indien fortuné pour loger dans le même palace que lui, non.
Absolument d'accord !!! Mais nous (deux de mes meilleurs potes indiens et moi qui voyageons actuellement ensemble) avons remarqué que malheureusement la plupart des indiens pauvres ne vont pas visiter les palais et musées que visitent les riches. Mes amis indiens m'ont maintes fois fait remarquer que les touristes indiens (tous Etats confondus) ne s'intéressent ni aux monuments historiques en tant que tels, ni à l'architecture, et encore moins aux somptueux paysages qu'ils visitent (d'où les gamelles et gobelets en cartons, sachets de chips et autres saloperies qui envahissent désormais des coins paradisiaques, encore intacts il y a seulement 4 ou 5 ans et d'après eux ça ne va pas aller en s'améliorant au fur et à mesure du développement touristique indien à grande échelle. Ce qui les passionne c'est de se prendre en photos, même devant un tas d'immondices. Vivant en Inde de 6 à 8 mois sur 12, parfois davantage, fréquentant plusieurs familles indiennes, vivant souvent chez elles comme eux-mêmes et connaissant maintenant très bien ce pays avec des yeux "indiens" et non un regard de touriste qui occulte la réalité, je sais maintenant que même l'indien "moyen" qui voyage, compte tenu de son pouvoir d'achat, a plus d'argent que je n'en ai moi-même. Mon ami prof gagne 30 000 Rs = moins de 400 euros par mois. Et il vit particulièrement bien, il a une superbe grande maison dont je ne pourrais pas me payer l'équivalent en France. Son frère qui est mon meilleur ami, tire un peu le diable par la queue par moments avec ses 15000 Rs mensuels soit moins de 200 euros dit qu'il n'a pas à se plaindre, il a aussi sa propre maison, s'est même acheté une chouette voiture d'occasion depuis deux ans. Donc il faut arrêter de dire "le pauvre", il ne gagne que 150 euros par mois ! En revanche les centaines de millions d'indiens qui vivent dans des taudis et des bidonvilles ou couchent dans la rue dans des conditions aussi dramatiques que sordides n'émeuvent pas leurs compatriotes, les indiens riches (et moins riches) s'en foutent complètement et ceux-là n'iront jamais visiter le Taj ou autre Fort, Palais, Musée, etc... Et la réponse de l’hôtelier à Parvat est ignoble car ils ne feront jamais un geste pour aider les plus démunis. En conclusion : peu de gens savent que ces tarifs de visites des monuments, est en fait la conservation d'une ancienne règlementation des anglais qui avaient compris qu'il y avait du fric à tirer aussi de ce côté là. A cette époque ce n'était pas le touriste lambda qui visitait l'Inde. Et l'indien, lui, ne bougeait pas de son coin, pas de risque qu'il aille visiter des palais et des musées. Donc facile de décréter, apparemment démocratiquement, en faveur de l'indien, tel prix pour les indiens et 50 fois plus pour les étrangers. Ben voyons ! Ça ne leur suffisait pas de piller les trésors de l'Inde à tous les niveaux. (L'Angleterre refuse toujours de rendre à l'Inde, le Kohinor "confisqué" à je ne sais plus quel Maharadja. Pas volé, bien sûr, seulement confisqué...)
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Bonjour
Je suis dégoûtée. J'ai envoyé un mail dans un beau lodge ou le prix du logement est différent pour les indiens et les occidentaux. J'ai envoyé un mail en demandant pourquoi et voilà la réponse. "... Votre argent soutiendra plus de 100 familles, c'est pourquoi nous pratiquons un prix différent." Déjà qu'on paie 40 fois plus que les indiens le prix d'entrée dans certains parcs, 1000 rps pour les étrangers, 20 rps pour les indiens, et maintenant pour se loger certains font la différence aussi! Shanti, shanti, ouais, faut pas pousser bobonne, elle est a marre la bobonne!😠
Bonjour Fabienne, Je suis tout à fait d'accord avec ton coup de gueule. Chaque fois que j'ai osé aborder cette question sur ce forum je m'y suis fait taper sur les doigts. Voilà déjà 5 ou 6 ans que cette pratique de la différence des prix sur les hôtels d'un certain standing entre étrangers et indiens se pratique couramment au Kérala devenu littéralement la Côte d'Azur indienne pour les touristes indiens riches. Moi j'avais eu une réponse plus méchante mais moins hypocrite au moins de la part du patron de l'hôtel : "we don't need flip flop shoes foreigners for our tourism business", que j'avais traduit ici par nous n'avons pas besoin d'étrangers traîne-savates pour notre tourisme. Et cette pratique est en train de se généraliser dans d'autres Etats, Karnataka par exemple, mais je ne sais plus où j'ai eu aussi cette surprise dans le nord. Dans quel Etat as-tu reçu cette réponse ? Non, faut pas pousser bobonne. Elle en a marre bobonne. J'ai beaucoup galéré pour obtenir un appartement ou une maison à louer au mois dans la ville où je réside principalement au Kérala. Soit on me refusait tout simplement de me louer parce que j'étais "foreigner", porteur de tous les vices, soit le proprio exigeait un loyer de 4 à 5 fois le prix du loyer pour un indien. Du genre 40000 roupies au lieu de 12000 (ce qui est déjà un loyer élevé pour un autochtone). 160 m2 trois grandes chambres, terrasse, très grand séjour, chouette cuisine, 3 salle de bains, vue superbe au 8ème étage d'une résidence de luxe. 40000 + charges ça me faisait un peu chérot pour 8 mois, mais je me suis dit que j'allais sous louer une ou deux chambres à des copains/voyageurs. Tu parles ! Un mois après, j'invite un couple d'amis à partager l'appart avec moi et le proprio me dit : je te loue à toi seul, pas question que tu reçoives de la famille ou des amis, sinon j'augmente le loyer en fonction du nombre d'occupants. Alors je lui ai dit merde et j'ai résilié, mais du coup il a exigé 60000 Rs de loyer au lieu des 40000 annoncés et payés d'avance, en disant qu'il avait refusé du monde car je m'étais engagé pour plusieurs mois, etc...Le super riche business man bourré de fric que je mettais dans l'embarras d'argent en me dédisant... Difficile de ne pas rajouter les 20000 supplémentaires exigés sans faire intervenir flics, avocat, tribunal, etc... Tous mes amis m'ont dit de payer que ce serait lui qui aurait raison face à l'étranger. Je lui ai craché ses 20000 Rs à la figure. Le lendemain l'appart était déjà occupé par d'autres gens !!! Une autre fois j'ai trouvé un chouette appartement pensant le garder 8 mois, voire le louer à l'année, mais au bout des 11 mois fatidiques (à 12 mois le proprio paie un impôt), le loyer était doublé. Ah non faut vraiment pas pousser bobonne ! Chaque année il faut faire des tas de complications, faire intervenir des gens "bien placés" pour être "recommandé" et montrer patte blanche. Ou loger chez les uns et les autres. Mais si gentils soient-ils, si intéressant culturellement que ce soit, je me sens un peu pris en otage et peu libre. L'indien a le sens de la famille et de l'amitié un peu intrusif et envahissant. Du genre puisque je suis français et chrétien, et que je loge chez des catholiques syriaques, considéré comme un membre de la famille, je dois me taper la prière chaque soir avant le dîner (1 heure de prière !!!), les innombrables messes, processions, chemin de croix sur des kilomètres en plein soleil d'avril = 40° à 45° pendant la "Semaine Sainte". Mais j'ai vécu la même chose ou presque l'an dernier chez mes amis... hindous. Pour novembre ou décembre prochain, je ne sais toujours pas si je vais trouver un appart à louer au mois ou pas... Il paraît que "quand on aime, on ne compte pas..." Alors chaque année je dis c'est la dernière fois, et chaque année je reviens. J'ai même mis ma maison en vente car je suis plus souvent en Inde qu'en France. Plusieurs personnes se mobilisent pour m'aider à trouver une maison ou un appart à louer à l'année, mais je suis moins optimiste qu'eux. Je sens que je vais me retrouver à l'hôtel, ou en famille, ou avec un loyer surévalué 4 fois plus.
Je suis dégoûtée. J'ai envoyé un mail dans un beau lodge ou le prix du logement est différent pour les indiens et les occidentaux. J'ai envoyé un mail en demandant pourquoi et voilà la réponse. "... Votre argent soutiendra plus de 100 familles, c'est pourquoi nous pratiquons un prix différent." Déjà qu'on paie 40 fois plus que les indiens le prix d'entrée dans certains parcs, 1000 rps pour les étrangers, 20 rps pour les indiens, et maintenant pour se loger certains font la différence aussi! Shanti, shanti, ouais, faut pas pousser bobonne, elle est a marre la bobonne!😠
Bonjour Fabienne, Je suis tout à fait d'accord avec ton coup de gueule. Chaque fois que j'ai osé aborder cette question sur ce forum je m'y suis fait taper sur les doigts. Voilà déjà 5 ou 6 ans que cette pratique de la différence des prix sur les hôtels d'un certain standing entre étrangers et indiens se pratique couramment au Kérala devenu littéralement la Côte d'Azur indienne pour les touristes indiens riches. Moi j'avais eu une réponse plus méchante mais moins hypocrite au moins de la part du patron de l'hôtel : "we don't need flip flop shoes foreigners for our tourism business", que j'avais traduit ici par nous n'avons pas besoin d'étrangers traîne-savates pour notre tourisme. Et cette pratique est en train de se généraliser dans d'autres Etats, Karnataka par exemple, mais je ne sais plus où j'ai eu aussi cette surprise dans le nord. Dans quel Etat as-tu reçu cette réponse ? Non, faut pas pousser bobonne. Elle en a marre bobonne. J'ai beaucoup galéré pour obtenir un appartement ou une maison à louer au mois dans la ville où je réside principalement au Kérala. Soit on me refusait tout simplement de me louer parce que j'étais "foreigner", porteur de tous les vices, soit le proprio exigeait un loyer de 4 à 5 fois le prix du loyer pour un indien. Du genre 40000 roupies au lieu de 12000 (ce qui est déjà un loyer élevé pour un autochtone). 160 m2 trois grandes chambres, terrasse, très grand séjour, chouette cuisine, 3 salle de bains, vue superbe au 8ème étage d'une résidence de luxe. 40000 + charges ça me faisait un peu chérot pour 8 mois, mais je me suis dit que j'allais sous louer une ou deux chambres à des copains/voyageurs. Tu parles ! Un mois après, j'invite un couple d'amis à partager l'appart avec moi et le proprio me dit : je te loue à toi seul, pas question que tu reçoives de la famille ou des amis, sinon j'augmente le loyer en fonction du nombre d'occupants. Alors je lui ai dit merde et j'ai résilié, mais du coup il a exigé 60000 Rs de loyer au lieu des 40000 annoncés et payés d'avance, en disant qu'il avait refusé du monde car je m'étais engagé pour plusieurs mois, etc...Le super riche business man bourré de fric que je mettais dans l'embarras d'argent en me dédisant... Difficile de ne pas rajouter les 20000 supplémentaires exigés sans faire intervenir flics, avocat, tribunal, etc... Tous mes amis m'ont dit de payer que ce serait lui qui aurait raison face à l'étranger. Je lui ai craché ses 20000 Rs à la figure. Le lendemain l'appart était déjà occupé par d'autres gens !!! Une autre fois j'ai trouvé un chouette appartement pensant le garder 8 mois, voire le louer à l'année, mais au bout des 11 mois fatidiques (à 12 mois le proprio paie un impôt), le loyer était doublé. Ah non faut vraiment pas pousser bobonne ! Chaque année il faut faire des tas de complications, faire intervenir des gens "bien placés" pour être "recommandé" et montrer patte blanche. Ou loger chez les uns et les autres. Mais si gentils soient-ils, si intéressant culturellement que ce soit, je me sens un peu pris en otage et peu libre. L'indien a le sens de la famille et de l'amitié un peu intrusif et envahissant. Du genre puisque je suis français et chrétien, et que je loge chez des catholiques syriaques, considéré comme un membre de la famille, je dois me taper la prière chaque soir avant le dîner (1 heure de prière !!!), les innombrables messes, processions, chemin de croix sur des kilomètres en plein soleil d'avril = 40° à 45° pendant la "Semaine Sainte". Mais j'ai vécu la même chose ou presque l'an dernier chez mes amis... hindous. Pour novembre ou décembre prochain, je ne sais toujours pas si je vais trouver un appart à louer au mois ou pas... Il paraît que "quand on aime, on ne compte pas..." Alors chaque année je dis c'est la dernière fois, et chaque année je reviens. J'ai même mis ma maison en vente car je suis plus souvent en Inde qu'en France. Plusieurs personnes se mobilisent pour m'aider à trouver une maison ou un appart à louer à l'année, mais je suis moins optimiste qu'eux. Je sens que je vais me retrouver à l'hôtel, ou en famille, ou avec un loyer surévalué 4 fois plus.
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Bonsoir a tous,
Au debut cela m’énervait comme la plus-part d'entre-nous français, depuis 15 ans que je viens a Mamallapuram, je dois payer 300 rps pour la visite du Shore Temple (je le connais bien, mais lorsque je le fais découvrir a des amis de passage, je peux pas rester devant les grilles...)
Les indiens paient 50 roupies, par apport a nos 4 euros, c'est dérisoire. mais comme on parle chiffre, en voici au moins un sur l’année 2015...
Le tourisme étranger (foreign) représente meme pas 10% du chiffre d'affaire global du tourisme indien au niveau national.
Ils sont très amoureux de visiter leur grand pays et ceci des leur enfance, les écoles organisent des petits voyages en bus, comme les collégiens se font des week end découvertes dans les états limitrophes cela est très frequents, ils ont la "bougeotte".
A partir du moment ou ils ont un emploi, comme la couche sociale moyenne, ils partent le week end pour se la "peter" entre copains ou couples....ici on ne regarde pas la dépense, mais on dépense pour montrer que l'on a de l'argent. nous vous étonnez pas de voir des immenses salles de séminaire, elles sont remplies trés souvent ( même a Pondichéry ou j'habite a l’année et qui est une petite ville).
Il n'ont rien a faire de notre tourisme ( c'est mon point de vue personnel) et de ce fait beaucoup de nos compatriotes sont partis voir d'autres pays comme le Sri Lanka qui a fait beaucoup ses dernières années, et qui affichait l'an dernier une progression de son chiffre du tourisme de plus de 7%, ce qui a fait rire jaune les responsables indiens au gouvernement.
Bon peut- être cela va changer...?
Un dernier petit mot de mon vécu, le prix d'entree du Taj Mahal plus de 20 euros m'avait surpris a cette époque quand je l'ai visité, j'ai vite compris qu'il était une des 7 merveilles du monde et qu'ils faisaient de gros efforts d'entretien sur le monument mais aussi sur les règles anti pollutions qui ont été imposées au alentours, et cela ne se calcule pas.
au plaisir de vous rencontrer en passant par le Tamil Nadu,
Jacques
Les indiens paient 50 roupies, par apport a nos 4 euros, c'est dérisoire. mais comme on parle chiffre, en voici au moins un sur l’année 2015...
le prix d'entree du Taj Mahal plus de 20 euros m'avait surpris a cette époque quand je l'ai visité,
Bonjour, Je confirme ton analyse et tes chiffres et oui, le gouvernement indien et son Ministère du tourisme n'en ont rien à faire des touristes étrangers. Evidemment avec 40% d'indiens qui ont assez d'argent pour voyager ça fait pas mal de millions de touristes potentiels, donc nous sommes une peccadille dans leur budget. De plus les français ont la mauvaise réputation d'être fauchés et de toujours marchander. Cependant les indiens sont très francophiles. Dès que tu dis France ou français, c'est Sésame. Cela dit, ce serait sympas, parlant des prix en Inde, surtout toi vivant en Inde, que tu t'exprimes en roupies et non en euros. C'est assez agaçant tous ces gens qui ne s'expriment qu'en euros ou qui convertissent sans cesse en euros du style : je ne l'ai payé que 10 euros, sauf que ça fait 750 roupies payées pour une cochonnerie qui n'en vaut pas 100. Un repas à 10 € ça peut paraître pas cher mais à 750 roupies ça l'est... Merci
Bonjour, Je confirme ton analyse et tes chiffres et oui, le gouvernement indien et son Ministère du tourisme n'en ont rien à faire des touristes étrangers. Evidemment avec 40% d'indiens qui ont assez d'argent pour voyager ça fait pas mal de millions de touristes potentiels, donc nous sommes une peccadille dans leur budget. De plus les français ont la mauvaise réputation d'être fauchés et de toujours marchander. Cependant les indiens sont très francophiles. Dès que tu dis France ou français, c'est Sésame. Cela dit, ce serait sympas, parlant des prix en Inde, surtout toi vivant en Inde, que tu t'exprimes en roupies et non en euros. C'est assez agaçant tous ces gens qui ne s'expriment qu'en euros ou qui convertissent sans cesse en euros du style : je ne l'ai payé que 10 euros, sauf que ça fait 750 roupies payées pour une cochonnerie qui n'en vaut pas 100. Un repas à 10 € ça peut paraître pas cher mais à 750 roupies ça l'est... Merci
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Mais nous (deux de mes meilleurs potes indiens et moi qui voyageons actuellement ensemble) avons remarqué que malheureusement la plupart des indiens pauvres ne vont pas visiter les palais et musées que visitent les riches.
J'ai une vision légèrement différente. Les indiens misérables oui. Mais les indiens du bas de la classe moyenne, non.
J'ai eu particulièrement cette impression au Gujarat et au Madhya Pradesh. Je me souviens par exemple d'un groupe de villageois à Gwalior .
Je les ai tout d'abord croisés au fort où ils sont entrés puis au Jai vilas palace où ils ont fait demi-tour après avoir demandé le prix de la visite...
La différence entre le fort et le palais est que l'un coûtait quelque chose comme 5 roupies pour les indiens alors que l'autre en valait 50... (C'était il y a quelques années...)
Il y a donc une envie de découvrir mais cette envie est vite freinée par des tarifs inaccessibles aux budgets réduits.
J'ai une vision légèrement différente. Les indiens misérables oui. Mais les indiens du bas de la classe moyenne, non.
J'ai eu particulièrement cette impression au Gujarat et au Madhya Pradesh. Je me souviens par exemple d'un groupe de villageois à Gwalior .
Je les ai tout d'abord croisés au fort où ils sont entrés puis au Jai vilas palace où ils ont fait demi-tour après avoir demandé le prix de la visite...
La différence entre le fort et le palais est que l'un coûtait quelque chose comme 5 roupies pour les indiens alors que l'autre en valait 50... (C'était il y a quelques années...)
Il y a donc une envie de découvrir mais cette envie est vite freinée par des tarifs inaccessibles aux budgets réduits.
Un repas à 10 € ça peut paraître pas cher mais à 750 roupies ça l'est...
Ça dépend où et ça dépend quoi...😇
Ça dépend où et ça dépend quoi...😇
Un repas à 10 € ça peut paraître pas cher mais à 750 roupies ça l'est...
Ça dépend où et ça dépend quoi...😇
Oui, mon exemple était mal choisi car je pensais à un restau où nous avons payé ça pour un repas très quelconque voire pas bon. Mais tu ne pouvais pas le deviner. J'ai en effet fait de véritables gueuletons rafinés pour 750 ou 800 Rs et effectivementc'est cher par rapport au prix moyen d'un repas en Inde, mais c'était l'équivalent d'un dîner à 50 euros chez nous...
Ça dépend où et ça dépend quoi...😇
Oui, mon exemple était mal choisi car je pensais à un restau où nous avons payé ça pour un repas très quelconque voire pas bon. Mais tu ne pouvais pas le deviner. J'ai en effet fait de véritables gueuletons rafinés pour 750 ou 800 Rs et effectivementc'est cher par rapport au prix moyen d'un repas en Inde, mais c'était l'équivalent d'un dîner à 50 euros chez nous...
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Bonjour à tous et toutes!
J‘envisage une petite visite à Pokhara vers mi février 2027 (ce sera ma 4ème fois au Népal …. en plus de 40 ans !). Je voudrais réserver une chambre à l‘avance plutôt que de chercher en arrivant. J‘ai cherché un peu sur Bxxking.com et je vois bcp d‘offres. J‘ai l‘habitude de vérifier un peu les abords des endroits proposés, histoire de ne pas tomber dans des environs peu ragoutants et / ou éloignés de tout.
Donc, je vois pas mal d‘offre aux abords du lac (Lake Side ?) mais à chaque fois que je vérifie à quoi ca ressemble je trouve que les rues sont très peu attirantes. C‘est assez genre chantier et constructions à droite et à gauche… Rien à voir avec Bhaktapour (par example) ou même Thamel, ou les rues me semblent bcp plus agréables.
Qqn pourrait me conseiller ?
Aussi, je n‘ai pas l‘impression que Pokhara vaille vraiment une visite de plusieurs jours. Le lac, d‘accord, mais une fois qu‘on l‘a vu : quoi d‘autre ?
Hi there,
After a false start in March 2026 due to my Qatar flights being canceled, I’m rescheduling a trip to Kerala for November. Back in March, I’d booked and paid for the 2-day/1-night trek: Tiger Trail in Periyar National Park. Then I read some terrible reviews about the park. On VF, the reviews are old and don’t mention the Tiger Trail. So, before I book again (I’ve got time), has anyone done it recently and can share their experience and impressions? I’m specifically talking about the Tiger Trail, not the park’s jeep/boat activities, which seem more like an amusement park. Thanks
After a false start in March 2026 due to my Qatar flights being canceled, I’m rescheduling a trip to Kerala for November. Back in March, I’d booked and paid for the 2-day/1-night trek: Tiger Trail in Periyar National Park. Then I read some terrible reviews about the park. On VF, the reviews are old and don’t mention the Tiger Trail. So, before I book again (I’ve got time), has anyone done it recently and can share their experience and impressions? I’m specifically talking about the Tiger Trail, not the park’s jeep/boat activities, which seem more like an amusement park. Thanks
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Assam and I’d like to know what type of electrical adapter I need—is it M or D, or both?
Thanks
Hello,
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
Hi there, I think you're on the right track—you plan the itinerary and book the rooms in advance, and that’s it.
Not only do you save time, but you also know where you’ll be staying each night. Choosing well on Booking (or elsewhere) is actually a pleasure!
For safaris, given the number of jeeps with drivers available, it’s unlikely you’ll be turned away... the real issue is more about the concentration of jeeps around the animals.
I travel like you do—train, bus, tuk-tuk, and sometimes taxi. Ride-hailing apps like PickMe and other VTCs are mostly in big cities.
For the mountain train, due to severe flooding, service was interrupted on the line between Kandy and Ella. Check ahead, because reservations for this train are very complicated, if not impossible.
For the Colombo/Kandy train, you reserve your seats by buying the ticket before boarding. In the south, no need to book in advance for trains.
In Sri Lanka, there’s always a solution for getting around—just ask your hosts. They have trusted contacts at their fingertips. But still, compare prices—😏 smart move!
I stick to booking my nights and keep pre-planned activities to a minimum.
For reservations you can’t skip, it’s the beach stays you’ll want to secure.
Hi there,
I’m trying to find out if it’s still possible to travel from Mumbai to Goa by ferry or any other sea route. My search results aren’t very clear, and if it *is* possible, I can’t figure out where to book... If anyone has any info, I’d really appreciate it—thanks in advance!
Have a great day,
Virginie
I’m trying to find out if it’s still possible to travel from Mumbai to Goa by ferry or any other sea route. My search results aren’t very clear, and if it *is* possible, I can’t figure out where to book... If anyone has any info, I’d really appreciate it—thanks in advance!
Have a great day,
Virginie
It seems there’s a ferry from Nagapattinam to Jaffna in India. Has anyone here taken this ferry before? My main question is how to get to Nagapattinam—by train, bus? And from which town further south, of course.
Thanks, friends!
Gaston
Gaston
Hi there.
We’re spending a month in Sri Lanka in March, and we’ll have one week left after leaving Polonnaruwa.
We’re torn between spending it in the Jaffna region or on the east coast between Batticaloa and Trincomalee.
We’re divers, so the east coast appeals to us for snorkeling, beaches, and lagoons—but it seems like late March might not be the best time for that coast. What do you think?
As for Jaffna, the culture of the region, its more authentic feel since it’s less touristy, and the offshore islands all appeal to us too—but it seems far from the rest of the country and harder to access.
We have to choose because we won’t be able to visit both sides, and I’d love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks, Marie
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to Sri Lanka as a couple, and while planning the trip, we found plenty of info on the itinerary, places to see, and transportation, but much fewer clear reports on the actual budget to expect once there. Yet, that was an important point for us because we like to plan ahead a little before traveling.
So, we took the time to break down our complete budget after the trip. In our case, we spent around **930 € per person** for 2 weeks, being careful without depriving ourselves, mixing guesthouses, more comfortable hotels, quite a few activities, and even a private driver for part of the stay.
What we found interesting when crunching the numbers is that in Sri Lanka, it’s not necessarily meals or short trips that blow the budget, but rather flights, certain accommodations, cultural activities, and all those little expenses we sometimes forget, like tips.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea, we’ve put everything together on our blog with our experience, a detailed breakdown of expenses, and practical info on money while there, withdrawals, and tipping:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-sri-lanka-pour-un-voyage-de-2-semaines/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Hi everyone,
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
Hi there,
We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
Thanks in advance.
We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Nepal and would love to do a helicopter tour to Everest with Namche Heli Service. Has anyone here used this agency? I can’t seem to find any reviews online. Thanks in advance!
Kloki
We’re planning a trip to Nepal and would love to do a helicopter tour to Everest with Namche Heli Service. Has anyone here used this agency? I can’t seem to find any reviews online. Thanks in advance!
Kloki
Hey fellow travelers,
I’m spending two weeks studying Hindi in the mornings in Delhi, in the Hauz Khas neighborhood. What spots should I check out in this area? Any cafés to chill at? How do I get to other parts of Delhi? By rickshaw? Is it easy to negotiate the price upfront?
Thanks in advance. 😊 Marlène
I’m spending two weeks studying Hindi in the mornings in Delhi, in the Hauz Khas neighborhood. What spots should I check out in this area? Any cafés to chill at? How do I get to other parts of Delhi? By rickshaw? Is it easy to negotiate the price upfront?
Thanks in advance. 😊 Marlène
Hi,
I’m leaving this Saturday for Northern India from 15/02 to 27/02. I’m planning to visit New Delhi, Agra, Chand Baori, Jaipur, Ranthambore, Bundi, Udaipur, and Jodhpur.
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
I’d like to arrive in India at New Delhi Airport with some cash. I was wondering if the exchange rates at the airport are any good or if it’s best to avoid them (and exchange in the city instead?).
Thanks for your help.
Thanks for your help.
NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Hi there,
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
Hello my fellow globetrotters, could anyone tell me how to find the French colonial cemetery in Pondicherry? It seems tricky to locate.
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
I'm looking for a small, not-too-touristy restaurant in Fort Kochi. Do you know one not too far from Jacob Road?
Thanks
Hi there,
My wife and I are getting ready for this tour from March 27 to April 8.
I’d love to know if anyone’s traveled with Salaun Holidays before? How many people are usually in a group? How much cash should we bring?
We’re also unsure about what clothes to pack..... plus sheets and pillowcases?
And if you’ve got any tips to avoid being too bothered by beggars and touts.
Any advice you’ve got would be really helpful.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’d like to travel to Rajasthan and the Ganges Valley—it’s my first time going on a long-haul trip, and I’m thinking of booking with BTtours from Belgium (or Salaün in France). Has anyone here traveled with this agency before and can share their experience? I was planning to go around November, but some people tell me it might still be pretty cold (around 8°C)—is that true?
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
Hi there.
We’re heading to India at the end of December for a month.
I planned an itinerary: Delhi, Nawalgarh, Sikar, Jodhpur, Udaipur, Chittaurgarh, Bundi, Jaipur, Bharatpur, and back to Delhi.
Our driver told us it’s not possible because there are no roads.
He’s suggesting the usual tourist circuit, which we don’t want to do.
What do you think of my route?
Any tips?
Thanks, community!
Hello,
We’re a group of 4 looking for a driver and car for our stay in Kerala from November 22 to December 12, 2025. We’ve already planned an itinerary starting from Cochin.
We’ve traveled with a driver before during our trip to Rajasthan.
Thanks for your replies!
Yves
Hi everyone,
we’re heading to Tamil Nadu and Kerala at the start of the year for 30 days. We did Rajasthan 12 years ago, but things change fast.
I’ve read that to get a SIM card, you have to buy it at a shop and then go to the operator to get a number; you’d also need an Indian mobile number. Has anyone here had recent experience with this?
For buses and trains, do you need to book them well in advance?
Any tips are welcome—thanks in advance!
Happy holidays to all,
Philippe
Hi everyone! 🙂
My partner (who’s a teacher—hence the summer holidays) and I are heading to Eastern India for 23 days in July. This is my 5th trip to India, but her first.
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
hi everyone, I’m putting together an itinerary for Sri Lanka in September 2026, so I’m focusing on the east side of the island because of the monsoon on the west coast:
Day 1 Kandy: botanical garden, fruit and vegetable market, traditional dance show
Day 2 Kandy-Ella train
Day 3-4 Kumana NP or Lunugamvehera Block 6+5
Day 5-6 Komari / Pottuvi lagoon safari
Day 7 head up the east coast along the beaches to reach Wasgamuwa NP
Day 8 Wasgamuwa NP early morning safari, then Polonnaruwa (temple and palace)
Day 9-10 Sigiriya Lion’s Rock and Dambulla, cave temple
Day 11-12 Wilpattu NP early morning safari, then late afternoon
Day 13-14 Kalpitiya, snorkeling and chilling
Day 15 return to Colombo
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on whether this route is doable—we’ll be traveling with a driver-guide.
Feel free to mention any great tips or good homestay experiences you’ve had, since we prefer those.
Hi everyone, Kerala experts (especially Marien!)
In January, I’m planning another trip to Kerala. We’ll arrive in Kochi and travel up the coast by train to Gokarna.
So I’m reaching out to ask if it’s worth stopping for a few days in any of the following spots (not all, of course—just one or two that are really worth it...). From what I’ve seen, few Western tourists stop along this coast, given how little info there is about it:
Mahe, Thalassery, Taliparamba, Nileshwar, Bekal, Kasaragod
I’m not mentioning Kannur because we’ve already been there, specifically Thottada Beach, and we’re familiar with the southern destinations (Trivandrum, Kovalam, etc.).
Thanks for your replies!
Anne
Hello,
My husband and I usually spend a month in January/February in southern India. We end our trip in Gokarna and fly back from Vasco de Gama Airport in Dabolim. So, it might make sense to spend a few days in a nice, quiet spot in southern Goa. Do you have any recommendations?
Thanks