Habituée à randonner dans divers pays sans guide et aidée de cartes topographiques, je me demandais si c'était envisageable dans le nord de la Thaïlande. Je suis à la recherche d'une randonnée qui me ferait sortir des sentiers battus - jusqu'à 15 jours de rando. Merci par avance de me donner de bonnes infos et éventuellement un lien pour acheter en ligne une carte topo. Isa
Randonnée dans le nord de la Thaïlande sans guide?
by Isatresbelle
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Habituée à randonner dans divers pays sans guide et aidée de cartes topographiques, je me demandais si c'était envisageable dans le nord de la Thaïlande. Je suis à la recherche d'une randonnée qui me ferait sortir des sentiers battus - jusqu'à 15 jours de rando. Merci par avance de me donner de bonnes infos et éventuellement un lien pour acheter en ligne une carte topo. Isa
Habituée à randonner dans divers pays sans guide et aidée de cartes topographiques, je me demandais si c'était envisageable dans le nord de la Thaïlande. Je suis à la recherche d'une randonnée qui me ferait sortir des sentiers battus - jusqu'à 15 jours de rando. Merci par avance de me donner de bonnes infos et éventuellement un lien pour acheter en ligne une carte topo. Isa
Tout est toujours possible, bien sûr;
mais en Thailande, surtout dans le nord (où dans le nord?),
il reste quand même pas mal d'animaux sauvages sans parler des sangsues....
Quant aux cartes, si elles existent, elles seront en thai; savez-vous lire le thai?
Et même plus au nord, du côté de Chiang Klang; c'est vraiment magnifique, forêts et montagnes, minorités au niveau de la frontière lao, parcs nationaux quasi déserts et enchanteurs..et par dessus tout! pas un farang à la ronde 😉
pas de problème, de sécurité, bon il ne faut pas provoquer .. région sympa Nan, ( nord de la thailande )
pas envahi par les trekeurs de 1 jour,
C'est ce que je vais faire en novembre prochain, la région de Nan et les alentours je connais pas cette région je me pose pas de question sur place découvrir en toute discrétion et surtout apprécié paysage et les gens du pays, tranquille à mon aise .
C'est ce que je vais faire en novembre prochain, la région de Nan et les alentours je connais pas cette région je me pose pas de question sur place découvrir en toute discrétion et surtout apprécié paysage et les gens du pays, tranquille à mon aise .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
des ifeditees a phuket khun barbot??
ne pas s'attendre a des choses fantastiques dans cette région, , seulement une vraie thailande comme on l'apprécie tant,
Phuket et ses environs ( îles ) 😉 j'adore mais j'aime aussi des coins de Thaïlande hors touristiques, un exemple un jour je me suis retrouver à Kuchinaraï un bled perdu un vrai régal, des gens super sympa malgré leur étonnement de voir un farang dans le coin ça n'a pas de prix ça .
Phuket et ses environs ( îles ) 😉 j'adore mais j'aime aussi des coins de Thaïlande hors touristiques, un exemple un jour je me suis retrouver à Kuchinaraï un bled perdu un vrai régal, des gens super sympa malgré leur étonnement de voir un farang dans le coin ça n'a pas de prix ça .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Essaie d'en profiter pour aller rendre visite à Nanyouth qui habite à Nan;
c'est un grand bonhomme:
http://www.nanyouth.org/
http://www.nanyouth.org/
Essaie d'en profiter pour aller rendre visite à Nanyouth qui habite à Nan;
c'est un grand bonhomme:
http://www.nanyouth.org/
Oui tu as raison, j'ai suivi son parcours depuis peu grâce à VF et j'irais lui rendre visite c'était dans mon programme en passant dans le coin .😉
http://www.nanyouth.org/
Oui tu as raison, j'ai suivi son parcours depuis peu grâce à VF et j'irais lui rendre visite c'était dans mon programme en passant dans le coin .😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Excellent le lien sur cette carte. Je ne connaissais rien d'aussi detaillé. Merci !
Attention, elle date quand meme de 1972 et les routes ont pas mal evoluées depuis.
A bientot.
Mme parle de randonnées SANS GUIDE (et je suppose qu'elle ne parle ni thai ni karen, ni lisu, .. )
je serais alors nettement moins optimiste quant a la securité, si elle sort de la route sans guide ( et je ne parles pas des animaux, car en foret ce sont les animaux qui fuient les promeneurs !)
cet été nous avions des amis en vadrouille en famille ( avec guide) dans du hors piste : ils ont du rebroussé chemin, la piste étant fermée par un groupe de militaires, suite a un clash la vieille avec les passeurs d'amphetamines ., et c'était dans un canyon a 1h de marche a peine à l'ouest a partir de la route goudronnée ChiangRai MaeSai
Quant a la région frontalière entre Nan et le Laos, c'est devenu la nouvelle porte d'entrée des amphets
Mais il n'y a que les candides ( dixit Voltaire) qui passent a travers les pires embuches sans se rendre compte de rien !
cet été nous avions des amis en vadrouille en famille ( avec guide) dans du hors piste : ils ont du rebroussé chemin, la piste étant fermée par un groupe de militaires, suite a un clash la vieille avec les passeurs d'amphetamines ., et c'était dans un canyon a 1h de marche a peine à l'ouest a partir de la route goudronnée ChiangRai MaeSai
Quant a la région frontalière entre Nan et le Laos, c'est devenu la nouvelle porte d'entrée des amphets
Mais il n'y a que les candides ( dixit Voltaire) qui passent a travers les pires embuches sans se rendre compte de rien !
Exact Christian, mais je n'ai pu trouver plus récent. De toute façon, un (e) marcheur ne recherche pas le macadam bien que, comme le souligne Lukmee, le hors piste dans le nord sans guide de surcroît n'est pas sans quelques risques. Entre les passeurs de tout genre, les gardes forestiers armés à la poursuite des coupeurs clandestins et le reste... 😉 Evidement, tout dépend dans quel coin on se ballade !
Quel dommge de prendre ce ton ...
J'essayais simplement de savoir si cette possibilité était envisageable et j'esperais des réponses précises (lieu de départ, nombres de jours, cartes ...) et peut-être correspondre avec des gens qui auraient parcouru des sentiers en indépendant.
Il semblerait que je ne sois pas sur le bon site pour ça...
Cette correspondance s'achève ici pour moi car elle est pauvre d'information.
Merci tout de même pour la carte.
Isabelle
Salut,
Peut-être peux-tu aussi envisager le nord-Laos, tellement plus "fort"... Bonne préparation,
321
Peut-être peux-tu aussi envisager le nord-Laos, tellement plus "fort"... Bonne préparation,
321
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
Malheureusement les docs sont "verrouillés", impossibles d'enregistrer/imprimer.
Merci quand-même.
A +
321
321
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
Bonjour.
tu maintien le bouton gauche de ta souris enfoncé et tu fais un click droit. le menu apparait et tu peut enregistrer et imprimer.
A bientot.
Salut,
Ok, ça marche. Merci !
A + 321
Ok, ça marche. Merci !
A + 321
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
Oui. Pour moi ça marche.
Il faut bien maintenir la bouton gauche de la souris enfonce pendant que tu fais le click avec le bouton droit.
A+
Mince ! j'ai modifié mon précédent message trop tardivement.
Ok, ça marche.
Merci ! A + 321
Ok, ça marche.
Merci ! A + 321
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
Ne te méprends surtout pas quant aux réponses que tu as eue. N'oublie pas que le nord du pays fait partie du Triangle d'Or et il est parfois très risqué de s'aventurer sans guide dans une région qui abrite une "faune" pas très "catholique" si j'ose m'exprimer ainsi. En effet, lors de certains transports, ces personnes n'apprécient pas du tout la présence de badauds et vue leurs objectifs commerciaux, le "nettoyage" dans ces contrées ne leur pose aucun problème, bien au contraire. Les locaux sont plus ou moins au courant des passages et c'est donc pour cela que l'appel ou les conseils d'un guide sont un atout favorable. 😇
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I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
Hello.
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada







