Randonnée en Thaïlande du Nord et de l'Est
by Emmajune
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous,
Nous partons avec mon copain pour 2mois en Thaïlande majoritairement, Laos et cambodge.
Nous sommes des randonneurs ageris sans vouloir nous vanter, et cherchons des randonnées à faire seuls dans les montagnes et les petits villages. Tout les renseignements que je trouve passent par des organismes qui font payer un guide, etc.
Avez vous une carte, une application, ou autres à nous conseiller qui nous permettrait de voyager à la journée ou sur plusieurs jours ?
Merci d'avance
Bonjour,
Personnellement les meilleures cartes d'un coin précis sont celles que l'on imprime au départ de Google Earth.
Une carte globale voir du coté de Michelin. Les cartes d'office du Tourisme sont rarement à l'échelle et on a parfois des surprises.
Personnellement les meilleures cartes d'un coin précis sont celles que l'on imprime au départ de Google Earth.
Une carte globale voir du coté de Michelin. Les cartes d'office du Tourisme sont rarement à l'échelle et on a parfois des surprises.
Bjr
Vous trouverez des cartes routieres avec titres en anglais
Mais pas de cartes de randonnees
Sauf des cartes type ign a tres petite echelle mais du coup toutes en thai
Pas forcement a jour et surtout sans vraiie indication du trajet a suivre
Autre facteur les thais sont tres protectionistes de leur vie privee On ne rentrd pas facilement dans une maison a fortiori quand c est une maison avec une piece sans en plus mentionner la question des toilettes et douche Du coup vous aurez sans aucun soucis de grands accueils souriants Une invitation a partager un diner sur la terrasse Mais ensuite se faire inviter a entrer et a dormir .?? C est a la fois timidite et gene
En pkus de la barriere de la langue
Vous ne trouverez pas ce qu on trouve en se baladant en afrique par ex ou tout le village vient vous voir vous invite de suite etc La en thailande ce sera totalement different
Tout cela pour vous dire que tous ces eccueils langue culture contact et surtout le passage de porte ne se fera que si vous avez un "local" qui connaisse les gens du village et vous ouvre les portes
Bref independemment de la question "monetaire" trouvez vous un bon guide local qui connaisse specifiquement le coin A fortiori si ce sont des villages de minorites donc avec une languee encore autre que le thai
D
Autre facteur les thais sont tres protectionistes de leur vie privee On ne rentrd pas facilement dans une maison a fortiori quand c est une maison avec une piece sans en plus mentionner la question des toilettes et douche Du coup vous aurez sans aucun soucis de grands accueils souriants Une invitation a partager un diner sur la terrasse Mais ensuite se faire inviter a entrer et a dormir .?? C est a la fois timidite et gene
En pkus de la barriere de la langue
Vous ne trouverez pas ce qu on trouve en se baladant en afrique par ex ou tout le village vient vous voir vous invite de suite etc La en thailande ce sera totalement different
Tout cela pour vous dire que tous ces eccueils langue culture contact et surtout le passage de porte ne se fera que si vous avez un "local" qui connaisse les gens du village et vous ouvre les portes
Bref independemment de la question "monetaire" trouvez vous un bon guide local qui connaisse specifiquement le coin A fortiori si ce sont des villages de minorites donc avec une languee encore autre que le thai
D
On eu le siècle des Lumières,
puis un con a dû éteindre
Merci pour vos tuyaux!
Auriez vous a tout hasard des randonnées à me conseiller?
Je comprend qu'ils ne laisse pas rentrer tout le monde chez eux et je ne veux pas leur imposer ca...
D'habitude nous voyageons avec notre couchage, tentes, etc
Est ce mal vu de planter la tente en Thaïlande?
Bjr
Bref independemment de la question "monetaire" trouvez vous un bon guide local qui connaisse specifiquement le coin A fortiori si ce sont des villages de minorites donc avec une languee encore autre que le thai
D
connaissez vous des bon guides qui puisse nous amener dans les régions de l'est?
Bref independemment de la question "monetaire" trouvez vous un bon guide local qui connaisse specifiquement le coin A fortiori si ce sont des villages de minorites donc avec une languee encore autre que le thai
D
connaissez vous des bon guides qui puisse nous amener dans les régions de l'est?
bonjour les aventuriers
Est ce mal vu de planter la tente en Thaïlande?
En dehors des parcs nationaux = oui
Avez vous une carte, une application, ou autres
rubrique Autres, oui, voir un des modes d'emploi >> ICI <<
pour vous répondre + précisément A quelle période partez vous ? (météo, festivités?)
Est ce mal vu de planter la tente en Thaïlande?
En dehors des parcs nationaux = oui
Avez vous une carte, une application, ou autres
rubrique Autres, oui, voir un des modes d'emploi >> ICI <<
pour vous répondre + précisément A quelle période partez vous ? (météo, festivités?)
Bonjour nous souhaitons partir de mi janvier à mi mars.
Mais suivant notre travail nous pourrions avancer le voyage et partir novembre et décembre
nous pourrions avancer le voyage et partir novembre et décembre
A ces périodes vous profiterez pleinement des meilleures festivités voir anglais https://www.tourismthailand.org/home français http://www.tourismethaifr.com/Accueil/index.tpl
A ces périodes vous profiterez pleinement des meilleures festivités voir anglais https://www.tourismthailand.org/home français http://www.tourismethaifr.com/Accueil/index.tpl
Bjr
a noter que en Thailade en decembre janvier, des qu'on monte en altitude, il peut faire tres froid (et humide) avec des temperatres de 10 degres voire moins on trouve des hebergements partout - et dans les parcs nationnaux des tentes de camping pré-installées ( ou des emplaceet camping ) - mais ne comptez pas sur du camping sauvage
La Thailande est n pays riche et les thais se baladent beaucoup le week-end On trouve donc fcilement des guides de randos ( et des randos en petits groupe (avec exclusivement des Thais- donc langue thaie uniquement ) ou en guide privé anglophone ou plus rarement francophone
oui je connasi de bon guides privés de rando (meme thai francophone) mais question budget - à vous de preciser ? un bon guide se paie au moins 60 euro , par jour a cela il faut ajouter son logement ses repas et son transport .. ce qui double ou tiple le cout journalier
a noter que en Thailade en decembre janvier, des qu'on monte en altitude, il peut faire tres froid (et humide) avec des temperatres de 10 degres voire moins on trouve des hebergements partout - et dans les parcs nationnaux des tentes de camping pré-installées ( ou des emplaceet camping ) - mais ne comptez pas sur du camping sauvage
La Thailande est n pays riche et les thais se baladent beaucoup le week-end On trouve donc fcilement des guides de randos ( et des randos en petits groupe (avec exclusivement des Thais- donc langue thaie uniquement ) ou en guide privé anglophone ou plus rarement francophone
oui je connasi de bon guides privés de rando (meme thai francophone) mais question budget - à vous de preciser ? un bon guide se paie au moins 60 euro , par jour a cela il faut ajouter son logement ses repas et son transport .. ce qui double ou tiple le cout journalier
On eu le siècle des Lumières,
puis un con a dû éteindre
Tout d'abord excusez moi pour la longueur de mes réponses...
Me conseilleriez vous de prendre quand même ma tente pour un séjour de 1 mois?
Sachant que j'irai au Laos et au Cambodge pendant 2 semaines. Peut être dans ces pays la tente est elle plus tolérée?
Si vous avez des conseils à me donner sur ces pays aussi je suis preneuse!
🙂 trop cool! Merci pour les infos sur les fêtes et festivités! Je vais étudier ca! 👍👍👍
Bjr
Il n y a pas d interdiction mais simplement je pense que c est inutile et probablementpeu adapte Il y a des logements partout et vraiment pas chers Car il vous faut deja une tente servant de moustiquaire mais qui ne soit pas chaude sauf en montagne Il faut que ce soit plutot hors sol a cause des animaux et en cas de pluie Enfin quand il pleut en general il pleut fort et il fait chaud
Donc a part les tentes suspendues qu on tend entre 2 arbres et faites pour les randos en foret tropicale ?
Il n y a pas d interdiction mais simplement je pense que c est inutile et probablementpeu adapte Il y a des logements partout et vraiment pas chers Car il vous faut deja une tente servant de moustiquaire mais qui ne soit pas chaude sauf en montagne Il faut que ce soit plutot hors sol a cause des animaux et en cas de pluie Enfin quand il pleut en general il pleut fort et il fait chaud
Donc a part les tentes suspendues qu on tend entre 2 arbres et faites pour les randos en foret tropicale ?
On eu le siècle des Lumières,
puis un con a dû éteindre
Merci bon on oublie la tente alors! 😉
auriez vous a me conseiller des sites qui vous ont marqués même si c'est loin de tout? Ou d'autres sites qui ne sont pas peux connu? 🙂
Bjr
95% des touristes etrangers vont aux memes endroits (ceux references dans les guides en langue anglaise et sur Internet ) donc tres facile de se retrouver dans des coins hors tourisme
et donc 95% du pays est zone hors tourisme pour etrangers Par contre alors ce sont des destinations non referencees dans vos guide ni sur internet EN LANGUE ANGLAISE meme si ce sont des lieux du tourisme thai
donc rassurez vous des que vous ferez 1 km de plus que le 'touriste lambda' vous etes en Thailande ''normale''
donc la solution :: vous preparer un iteneraire classique puis des que souhaité , prendre la première deviation a droite ou a gauche
95% des touristes etrangers vont aux memes endroits (ceux references dans les guides en langue anglaise et sur Internet ) donc tres facile de se retrouver dans des coins hors tourisme
et donc 95% du pays est zone hors tourisme pour etrangers Par contre alors ce sont des destinations non referencees dans vos guide ni sur internet EN LANGUE ANGLAISE meme si ce sont des lieux du tourisme thai
donc rassurez vous des que vous ferez 1 km de plus que le 'touriste lambda' vous etes en Thailande ''normale''
donc la solution :: vous preparer un iteneraire classique puis des que souhaité , prendre la première deviation a droite ou a gauche
On eu le siècle des Lumières,
puis un con a dû éteindre
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Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
Hello.
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada