Merci d'avance pour tout vos conseilles. Brice
Randonner dans l'Atlas marocain en solitaire, itinéraires et cartes?
by Brice25
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjours a tous,
J'aimerais partir au moi de septembre au Maroc pour faire un trek dans l'Atlas (7 et 10 jours ou plus). Je fait appelle à votre expériences, existe t'il des cartes? Où peut on se les procuré?
Je pensais partir ou arriver dans la région du Toubkal, existe il des itinéraires baliser, qu'elle conseille d'itinéraire me donneriez vous?
Merci d'avance pour tout vos conseilles. Brice
Merci d'avance pour tout vos conseilles. Brice
http://www.martinpierre.fr/
sur ce site, tu as les randos de martin pierre, tu cliques randos en afrique et là tu trouves ses randos dans l'atlas ... détaillées ect ..... ça c'est de la rando ! 🙂
bon courage !
sur ce site, tu as les randos de martin pierre, tu cliques randos en afrique et là tu trouves ses randos dans l'atlas ... détaillées ect ..... ça c'est de la rando ! 🙂
bon courage !
je sais que ce n'est pas simple, envoie un message à martin pierre ????
Bonjour,
Merci en effet le site a l'aire vraiment bien, Pour l'histoire des cartes, est ce que quelqu'un sait où il est possible de s'en procurer?
en faisant une recherche sur ce forum.....sujet abordé maintes fois. Le Vieux Campeur en vend une , Piolet au 1/40000 mais elle ne couvre pas Setti Fatma c'est dommage. Donc si tu veux grimper sur le Adrar Yagour ce que je n'ai pas pu refaire à mon grand désespoir ( j'y étais monté en 1993), il faut se démerder à demander aux locaux le chemin passer par Ouigrène et Taddert comme le décrit le site de Martin Pierre. Ensuite de Ouigréne grimper au-dessus du village , j'au dû rebrousser chemin à cause de violents orage en avril de cette année. Ceci si tu veux grimper sur le Adrar Yagour. En complément j'ai utilisé la carte de Terra Quest au 1/100000 qui montre également les sentiers de randonnée dans le massif du Toubkal. La déception vient de la carte Garmin pour GPS du même nom qui n'indique pas toujours les sentiers... A Marrakech il y a une carte topo en vente à l'hôtel Ali au 1/200000 mais elle n'est pas assez détaillée. Sinon à Imlil on vend la même donc je conseille la Piolet , éditée par une maison d'édition espagnole.
Bonjours a tous, J'aimerais partir au moi de septembre au Maroc pour faire un trek dans l'Atlas (7 et 10 jours ou plus). Je fait appelle à votre expériences,
attention pour 7 jours ça commence à faire à emporter si tu veux être en autonomie. J'avais pour une dizaine de jours de rations le sac pesait plus de 20kg à l'aéroport sans compter les 1.6litres d'essence auto pour le réchaud et un litre d'eau de boisson. Ce qui ne m'a pas empêché de grimper le col de Tachedirt en laissant derrière-moi des autres randonneurs Gallois partis avec leur guide😉
Pour ce qui est de se ravitailler à part Imlil et Setti-Fatma il n'ya quasiment rien dans les villages berbères ou alors tu peux t'arrêter pour y rester la nuit et demander de te faire un couscous. Attention tu ne peux pas t'arrêter dans n'importe quel village parce qu'il faut que le gîte soit agrée... donc sur les tronçons que je connais il n'ya que Tachedirt et Timichi qui comportent des gîtes ( sur le site de Martin Pierre ces villages sont décrits) A Timichi il ya un gîte tenu par un guide qui parle bien français
Pour ce qui est d'acheter de la nourriture lyophilisée c'est très limité ; à Setti Fatma ça peut aller, à Imlil le choix demeure limité. On peut trouver des cartouches camping-gaz dans les 2 villages.
Merci en effet le site a l'aire vraiment bien, Pour l'histoire des cartes, est ce que quelqu'un sait où il est possible de s'en procurer?
en faisant une recherche sur ce forum.....sujet abordé maintes fois. Le Vieux Campeur en vend une , Piolet au 1/40000 mais elle ne couvre pas Setti Fatma c'est dommage. Donc si tu veux grimper sur le Adrar Yagour ce que je n'ai pas pu refaire à mon grand désespoir ( j'y étais monté en 1993), il faut se démerder à demander aux locaux le chemin passer par Ouigrène et Taddert comme le décrit le site de Martin Pierre. Ensuite de Ouigréne grimper au-dessus du village , j'au dû rebrousser chemin à cause de violents orage en avril de cette année. Ceci si tu veux grimper sur le Adrar Yagour. En complément j'ai utilisé la carte de Terra Quest au 1/100000 qui montre également les sentiers de randonnée dans le massif du Toubkal. La déception vient de la carte Garmin pour GPS du même nom qui n'indique pas toujours les sentiers... A Marrakech il y a une carte topo en vente à l'hôtel Ali au 1/200000 mais elle n'est pas assez détaillée. Sinon à Imlil on vend la même donc je conseille la Piolet , éditée par une maison d'édition espagnole.
Bonjours a tous, J'aimerais partir au moi de septembre au Maroc pour faire un trek dans l'Atlas (7 et 10 jours ou plus). Je fait appelle à votre expériences,
attention pour 7 jours ça commence à faire à emporter si tu veux être en autonomie. J'avais pour une dizaine de jours de rations le sac pesait plus de 20kg à l'aéroport sans compter les 1.6litres d'essence auto pour le réchaud et un litre d'eau de boisson. Ce qui ne m'a pas empêché de grimper le col de Tachedirt en laissant derrière-moi des autres randonneurs Gallois partis avec leur guide😉
Pour ce qui est de se ravitailler à part Imlil et Setti-Fatma il n'ya quasiment rien dans les villages berbères ou alors tu peux t'arrêter pour y rester la nuit et demander de te faire un couscous. Attention tu ne peux pas t'arrêter dans n'importe quel village parce qu'il faut que le gîte soit agrée... donc sur les tronçons que je connais il n'ya que Tachedirt et Timichi qui comportent des gîtes ( sur le site de Martin Pierre ces villages sont décrits) A Timichi il ya un gîte tenu par un guide qui parle bien français
Pour ce qui est d'acheter de la nourriture lyophilisée c'est très limité ; à Setti Fatma ça peut aller, à Imlil le choix demeure limité. On peut trouver des cartouches camping-gaz dans les 2 villages.
Pour les parcours soit partir de Setti Fatma soit de Imlil.
De Setti Fatma c'est peut-être plus progressif, tu vas grimper un col qui domine le début de la Vallée de l'Ourika et le patelin de Setti Fatma puis suivre le cours de l'Ourika en restant en hauteur sans avoir à grimper d'autres cols.
En quelques heures tu atteins Timichi ou alors tu peux planter la tente avant.
De là progression vers le Tizi n'Teralhine pour le lac d'Ifni , redescente sur le lac et bouclage vers le col du Toubkal.
Ensuite monter le col du Toubkal et descente vers SidI Chamharoud et pour finir à Ifni.
Si tu pars d'Ifni tu grimpes pour arriver dans le cirque montagneux environnant Sidi Chamharoud et après ça grimpe de manière soutenue au col du TOubkal et au refuge Netfner
Merci pour la réponse. En effet je n'avais pas fait de recherche sur le forum avant de poster mon messages.
Pour les carte, il faut absolument que je m'en trouve pour pouvoirs commencer a m'organiser.
pour se qui est de partir en autonomie sa me fait pas peur, l'ans dernier je suis partie marcher en Islande avec 17 jours de nourriture donc dans l'organisation je suis roder 😉.
Il faut cette fois que j’achète ses cartes pour pouvoir planifier mon parcours, et me rendre compte un peut mieux du relief et des distances.
"Attention tu ne peux pas t'arrêter dans n'importe quel village parce qu'il faut que le gîte soit agrée..."
pourquoi dis tu cela ? y-t-il une loi qui interdit un hébergement villageois lambda ???? une famille accueillante, un chef de village debrouillard et hospitalier qui nous trouve un hébergement ?
(c'est une question, pas une critique🙂)
pourquoi dis tu cela ? y-t-il une loi qui interdit un hébergement villageois lambda ???? une famille accueillante, un chef de village debrouillard et hospitalier qui nous trouve un hébergement ?
(c'est une question, pas une critique🙂)
Merci pour la réponse. En effet je n'avais pas fait de recherche sur le forum avant de poster mon messages.
Pour les carte, il faut absolument que je m'en trouve pour pouvoirs commencer a m'organiser.
pour se qui est de partir en autonomie sa me fait pas peur, l'ans dernier je suis partie marcher en Islande avec 17 jours de nourriture donc dans l'organisation je suis roder 😉.
Il faut cette fois que j’achète ses cartes pour pouvoir planifier mon parcours, et me rendre compte un peut mieux du relief et des distances.
attention le Haut Atlas c'est pas l'Islande ça parait évident quoique pas pour tout le monde... il y a tout de même de sacrés dénivelés.. pour arriver en haut du Tizi n'Tachedirt j'en ai bavé
attention le Haut Atlas c'est pas l'Islande ça parait évident quoique pas pour tout le monde... il y a tout de même de sacrés dénivelés.. pour arriver en haut du Tizi n'Tachedirt j'en ai bavé
"pourquoi dis tu cela ? y-t-il une loi qui interdit un hébergement villageois lambda ???? une famille accueillante, un chef de village debrouillard et hospitalier qui nous trouve un hébergement ?
(c'est une question, pas une critique🙂)
c'est Brahim le guide de Timichi qui me l'a affirmé ceci dit oui on peut toujours demander l'hébergement. Attention quand tu parles de chef débrouillard évidemment c'est moyennant bakchich
(c'est une question, pas une critique🙂)
c'est Brahim le guide de Timichi qui me l'a affirmé ceci dit oui on peut toujours demander l'hébergement. Attention quand tu parles de chef débrouillard évidemment c'est moyennant bakchich
non je ne parlais pas de bakchich en parlant débrouillard. le mot n'est pas le bon d'ailleurs. je voulais dire quelqu'un qui a envie de trouver une solution. on en trouve. sans bakchich. (mais je sais que ça existe, 🙁)
ensuite bien sur on dédommage la famille qui vous a logé et nourri, c'est normal, ça.
je pense qu'il faut toujours privilégier la famille qui fait l'effort de mettre un gite en agrément, il y en a si peu. Ensuite s'il n'y en a pas, il me semble qu'il n'y a rien qui interdit un autre hébergement.
je pense qu'il faut toujours privilégier la famille qui fait l'effort de mettre un gite en agrément, il y en a si peu. Ensuite s'il n'y en a pas, il me semble qu'il n'y a rien qui interdit un autre hébergement.
salut
la librairie de voyageurs du monde , 55 rue ste anne , 75002 paris , vend un certain nb de cartes au 1/100.000° du haut atlas , au vieux campeur, on ne trouve que le massif du toubkal, , sinon c'est la division de la carte a rabat mais ils sont très c...à mkch, quelques boutiques peuvent en vendre , c'est aléatoire
ciao
kiki
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I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra






