La région du Guizhou et Yunan (Chine)
by Dom71
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Saut,
je pars dans le Guizhou et Yunan en Juillet et Aout. (J'ai renoncé à la birmanie qui est vraiment trop mouillée pendant la mousson parait il…)
Un amoureux du coin peut il me parler de la région…
Merci
dom
Salut Dom,
Tu vas dans la région que j'ai préférée durant mon année de voyage en Asie l'année dernière. J'ai passé 10 jours dans le Guizhou et 3 semaines dans le Yunnan. Un régal. Prends du temps pour sortir des sentiers battus dans le Yunnan. Dans le Guizhou, pas de soucis, il n'y a pas de sentiers battus (sauf ceux par les touristes chinois si tu vas voir des grottes ou des chutes d'eau à partir d'Anshun).
A voir absolument : un festival de minorités. Renseigne toi sur les dates avant de partir et essaye d'arranger ton itinéraire en fonction.
Dans le Yunnan, evite le Xishuangbanna. Pas terrible et trop identique à l'Asie du Sud-Est.
Je te laisse aller voir mes récits de voyage et photos pour avoir plus de détails sur mon itinéraire et mes coups de coeur. Choisit "Articles" ou "Albums" puis filtre ce qui t'intéresse en choisissant "Chine du Sud-Ouest".
http://fredtrip.affinitiz.com
Combien de temps prévois-tu ?
Fred
Tu vas dans la région que j'ai préférée durant mon année de voyage en Asie l'année dernière. J'ai passé 10 jours dans le Guizhou et 3 semaines dans le Yunnan. Un régal. Prends du temps pour sortir des sentiers battus dans le Yunnan. Dans le Guizhou, pas de soucis, il n'y a pas de sentiers battus (sauf ceux par les touristes chinois si tu vas voir des grottes ou des chutes d'eau à partir d'Anshun).
A voir absolument : un festival de minorités. Renseigne toi sur les dates avant de partir et essaye d'arranger ton itinéraire en fonction.
Dans le Yunnan, evite le Xishuangbanna. Pas terrible et trop identique à l'Asie du Sud-Est.
Je te laisse aller voir mes récits de voyage et photos pour avoir plus de détails sur mon itinéraire et mes coups de coeur. Choisit "Articles" ou "Albums" puis filtre ce qui t'intéresse en choisissant "Chine du Sud-Ouest".
http://fredtrip.affinitiz.com
Combien de temps prévois-tu ?
Fred
Salut,
je parts deux mois, départ le 2 juillet.
Je suis déjà allée sur ton site (quel succès…).
Où puis je me renseigner sur les festivités dont tu parles?
As tu des plan guesthouses dans les villes et villages ou tu es passé. C'est un peu pragmatique, mais si je peux éviter les corvées de recherche de chambres, c'est toujours ça de gagner pour visiter les allentours…
Merci
Merci
dom
2 mois, c'est génial. Tu vas vraiment pouvoir prendre ton temps. Honnêtement, même après 5 semaines dans le Sud-Ouest, je serai bien resté volontiers 1 mois de plus. Cette région de Chine est d'une richesse extraordinaire.
Pour les festivals, les dates sont en effet difficiles à trouver. Personnellement, j'avais trouvé la date du festival Miao de Nankai dans le Lonely Planet South-West China. Il s'agit sans doute de la meilleure source d'information. Pour le festival Bai près de Dali, je suis tombé dessus complètement par hasard en me baladant à vélo. Il ne devait être indiqué nulle part puisque j'étais le seul voyageur (il n'y avait même pas de touristes chinois).
Désolé, je n'ai pas noté le nom des hébergements par lesquels je suis passé. Ils étaient quasiment tous dans le Lonely Planet South-West China. Dans les villes touristiques du Yunnan (Kunming, Jinhong, Dali, Lijiang, Tiger Leaping Gorge, Zhongdian et même Deqin), tu trouveras toujours une guesthouse pas trop chere. Dans le Sud-Est du Yunnan (Jianshui, Yuanyang), une partie peu explorée par les routards, j'ai dormi dans des auberges gouvernementales (1 euro le lit à Jianshui !).
Dans le Guizhou et comme dans la plupart des coins peu visités de Chine, il n'y a pas de guesthouses. Il faut donc dormir dans des hotels. On en trouve en général des pas trop chers (10 euros la chambre), et le rapport qualité/prix est souvent correct. Ce fut le cas à Kaili, Anshun ou Liupanshui. Le LP South-West China est aussi assez fourni pour obtenir ce type d'info même si une mise à jour, notamment pour les prix, serait bienvenue. A noter qu'à Xijiang, l'hotel indiqué n'existait pas et j'ai donc été hébergé chez un habitant qui m'avait réperé en train d'errer dans le village. Inutile de dire que ce fut un grand moment du voyage !
En bref, n'oublie surtout pas d'acheter le Lonely Planet South-West China avant de partir, c'est une véritable mine d'informations pour voyager en indépendant. Les cartes de centre-ville te seront d'une grande utilité pour trouver les hotels ainsi que les traductions des noms de ville en caractère chinois pour demander des directions. Par contre, ne fais pas confiance aux prix et aux temps de trajet indiqués, c'est le plus souvent n'importe quoi.
A+ Fred
Pour les festivals, les dates sont en effet difficiles à trouver. Personnellement, j'avais trouvé la date du festival Miao de Nankai dans le Lonely Planet South-West China. Il s'agit sans doute de la meilleure source d'information. Pour le festival Bai près de Dali, je suis tombé dessus complètement par hasard en me baladant à vélo. Il ne devait être indiqué nulle part puisque j'étais le seul voyageur (il n'y avait même pas de touristes chinois).
Désolé, je n'ai pas noté le nom des hébergements par lesquels je suis passé. Ils étaient quasiment tous dans le Lonely Planet South-West China. Dans les villes touristiques du Yunnan (Kunming, Jinhong, Dali, Lijiang, Tiger Leaping Gorge, Zhongdian et même Deqin), tu trouveras toujours une guesthouse pas trop chere. Dans le Sud-Est du Yunnan (Jianshui, Yuanyang), une partie peu explorée par les routards, j'ai dormi dans des auberges gouvernementales (1 euro le lit à Jianshui !).
Dans le Guizhou et comme dans la plupart des coins peu visités de Chine, il n'y a pas de guesthouses. Il faut donc dormir dans des hotels. On en trouve en général des pas trop chers (10 euros la chambre), et le rapport qualité/prix est souvent correct. Ce fut le cas à Kaili, Anshun ou Liupanshui. Le LP South-West China est aussi assez fourni pour obtenir ce type d'info même si une mise à jour, notamment pour les prix, serait bienvenue. A noter qu'à Xijiang, l'hotel indiqué n'existait pas et j'ai donc été hébergé chez un habitant qui m'avait réperé en train d'errer dans le village. Inutile de dire que ce fut un grand moment du voyage !
En bref, n'oublie surtout pas d'acheter le Lonely Planet South-West China avant de partir, c'est une véritable mine d'informations pour voyager en indépendant. Les cartes de centre-ville te seront d'une grande utilité pour trouver les hotels ainsi que les traductions des noms de ville en caractère chinois pour demander des directions. Par contre, ne fais pas confiance aux prix et aux temps de trajet indiqués, c'est le plus souvent n'importe quoi.
A+ Fred
Voilà la liste des festivals pour les mois de juillet et août:
source: http://www.4panda.com/guizhou/festival.htm#Major%20Festival%20in%202004
Jul.12 -- The Miao Dragon Boat Race Festival at Shidong village Jul.22 -- The Telling Stories Festivalat Jingping’s Yaobo village Jul.31 -- The Crying for Heaven at Liping’s Huangang village, Kaili Jul.31 -- The Playing on swing at Basha Miao village, near Congjiang. Middle Jul-- The Miao and Dong Eating New Rice Festival at Jingping’s Jiuzhai village. Aug.29-31 --At Kaili’s Wengxiang village, --the Lusheng Festival Bon voyage
Sylvie
source: http://www.4panda.com/guizhou/festival.htm#Major%20Festival%20in%202004
Jul.12 -- The Miao Dragon Boat Race Festival at Shidong village Jul.22 -- The Telling Stories Festivalat Jingping’s Yaobo village Jul.31 -- The Crying for Heaven at Liping’s Huangang village, Kaili Jul.31 -- The Playing on swing at Basha Miao village, near Congjiang. Middle Jul-- The Miao and Dong Eating New Rice Festival at Jingping’s Jiuzhai village. Aug.29-31 --At Kaili’s Wengxiang village, --the Lusheng Festival Bon voyage
Sylvie
Je suis allée au Guizhou il y a quelques années et au Yunnan l'année dernière. Pour le Guizhou, tout est intéressant, la région de Kaili bien sûr assez touristique, mais aussi celles de Duyun ou de Luodian moins touistiques ou encore celle de Tongren dans le nord.
Pour le Yunnan, je suis d'accord avec Fred. Le Xishuangbanna bof, par contre la région de Yuanyang est fantastique (passer avant à Tonghai et Jianshui). Du côté de Dali, Weishan est une petite ville peu touristique (à une soixantaine de km si je m'en souviens bien) que j'ai beaucoup appréciée (les vieilles rues et bâtiments ainsi que le marché et la montagne daoiste à quelques kilomètres). Une autre région peu touristique du Yunnan (je n'y suis pas encore allée) est la vallée de Nujiang.
Si tu veux des infos plus précises sur un site ou l'autre, dis-le.
Sylvie
Pour le Yunnan, je suis d'accord avec Fred. Le Xishuangbanna bof, par contre la région de Yuanyang est fantastique (passer avant à Tonghai et Jianshui). Du côté de Dali, Weishan est une petite ville peu touristique (à une soixantaine de km si je m'en souviens bien) que j'ai beaucoup appréciée (les vieilles rues et bâtiments ainsi que le marché et la montagne daoiste à quelques kilomètres). Une autre région peu touristique du Yunnan (je n'y suis pas encore allée) est la vallée de Nujiang.
Si tu veux des infos plus précises sur un site ou l'autre, dis-le.
Sylvie
Salut,
peux tu me dire ce qui ne vaut pas le detour au Xishuangbanna?
Les lieux que tu me recommandes m'ont l'air d'etre bien loin les uns des autres. Penses tu qu'il soit trop ambitieux de prévoir de visiter les deux régions en 2 mois seulement? J'imagine qu'en circulant en bus et bateau comme je fais habituellement en Asie du SE, ça doit etre terriblement long.
A ce propos, y a t il des portions de rivières que je puisse réaliser en bateau?
dom
J'ai passé l'hiver dernier 6 semaines au Yunnan et j'ai visité Kunming, Dali et environs, Lijiang, une partie du Xishuangbanna et je suis allée jusqu'à Yuanyang (j'ai pris trois fois l'avion). Donc en 8 semaines sans avion il faut faire un choix. Si j'avais à le refaire, je n'irai pas au Xishuangbanna (c'est très loin, surtout en bus), parce que j'ai trouvé les régions de Dali/Lijiang et Yuanyang plus intéressantes au point de vue architecture, couleurs, costumes ethniques, marchés paysans, culture. Il s'agit d'une opinion personnelle et évidemment subjective. Avec ma façon de voyager, les deux régions en deux mois ce serait impossible. Je passe souvent quelques jours dans des petits villages sur ma route pour regarder la vie des gens et discuter avec eux.
Quant aux bateaux, je ne peux malheureusement pas te renseigner. Ce n'est pas mon moyen de transport préféré, car je n'ai toujours pas appris à nager!
A plus Sylvie
A plus Sylvie
Tout dépend de la vitesse à laquelle tu voyages. Si j'étais toi, j'essaierai de voir les 2 régions. Genre 3 semaines au Guizhou et 5 semaines dans le Yunnan.
Tu n'as qu'à commencer par le Guizhou, et puis selon tes humeurs et tes coups de coeur tu y restes ou tu passes au Yunnan. Au niveau des transports, il est très facile de se déplacer en bus pour aller n'importe où, même dans les villages les plus reculés. Tu peux donc improviser tes itinéraires sans souci. Il y a un train qui fait Guyang - Anshun - Kunming, que tu pourras prendre pour te rendre dans le Yunnan.
N'oublie pas aussi de te renseigner sur les dates de marché de minorité. Comme les festivals, a ne pas rater !
Dans le Yunnan, je te conseille de te concentrer sur le Sud-Est (la région de Jianshui/Yuanyang) et le Nord-Ouest (Lijiang/Dali et le plateau tibétain). Dans le Nord-Ouest, la vallée du Nujiang doit en effet valoir le détour (je n'ai pas pu y aller par manque de temps). Cela doit être un peu le bout du monde. Sinon, tu peux pousser jusqu'à Deqin depuis Zhongdian. Les paysages montagneux sont somptueux (des vallées à 2000 mètres bordés de montagnes montant à plus de 6500 mètres !), beaucoup plus impressionnants que la région de U ou de Tsang autour de Lhassa au Tibet (les vallées y sont déjà à 3500 mètres).
Je tiens à préciser que, outre le Xishuangbanna, d'autres endroits sont un peu surcotés dans le Yunnan. Par exemple les Tiger Leaping Gorge ou encore Dali. Inutile de t'y attarder à mon avis.
Tu n'as qu'à commencer par le Guizhou, et puis selon tes humeurs et tes coups de coeur tu y restes ou tu passes au Yunnan. Au niveau des transports, il est très facile de se déplacer en bus pour aller n'importe où, même dans les villages les plus reculés. Tu peux donc improviser tes itinéraires sans souci. Il y a un train qui fait Guyang - Anshun - Kunming, que tu pourras prendre pour te rendre dans le Yunnan.
N'oublie pas aussi de te renseigner sur les dates de marché de minorité. Comme les festivals, a ne pas rater !
Dans le Yunnan, je te conseille de te concentrer sur le Sud-Est (la région de Jianshui/Yuanyang) et le Nord-Ouest (Lijiang/Dali et le plateau tibétain). Dans le Nord-Ouest, la vallée du Nujiang doit en effet valoir le détour (je n'ai pas pu y aller par manque de temps). Cela doit être un peu le bout du monde. Sinon, tu peux pousser jusqu'à Deqin depuis Zhongdian. Les paysages montagneux sont somptueux (des vallées à 2000 mètres bordés de montagnes montant à plus de 6500 mètres !), beaucoup plus impressionnants que la région de U ou de Tsang autour de Lhassa au Tibet (les vallées y sont déjà à 3500 mètres).
Je tiens à préciser que, outre le Xishuangbanna, d'autres endroits sont un peu surcotés dans le Yunnan. Par exemple les Tiger Leaping Gorge ou encore Dali. Inutile de t'y attarder à mon avis.
J'ai envoyé 2 colis depuis la Chine par terrestre. Cela a pris entre 2 et 3 mois, et ils sont tous les 2 arrivés à bon port.
Attention à la poste chinoise qui, comme l'administration, impose des contraintes parfois un peu bizarres. Ainsi, si tu veux envoyer des colis depuis Lhassa, tu ne peux pas envoyer de pellicules non développées ou de CD-ROM qu'ils ne savent pas lire... J'ai eu aussi des problèmes à la poste de Lanzhou. Je voulais envoyer mon sac de couchage et des fringues, mais il fallait d'abord les donner à un labo pendant 1 semaine pour vérifier que les tissus n'étaient pas contaminés (c'était l'année dernière, à l'époque du SRAS)... Quelques semaines plus tard, je n'ai pourtant eu aucun problème depuis la poste de Xian...
Fred
Attention à la poste chinoise qui, comme l'administration, impose des contraintes parfois un peu bizarres. Ainsi, si tu veux envoyer des colis depuis Lhassa, tu ne peux pas envoyer de pellicules non développées ou de CD-ROM qu'ils ne savent pas lire... J'ai eu aussi des problèmes à la poste de Lanzhou. Je voulais envoyer mon sac de couchage et des fringues, mais il fallait d'abord les donner à un labo pendant 1 semaine pour vérifier que les tissus n'étaient pas contaminés (c'était l'année dernière, à l'époque du SRAS)... Quelques semaines plus tard, je n'ai pourtant eu aucun problème depuis la poste de Xian...
Fred
Salut,
je vais passer au Yunan cet été par le Laos. Comme je n'ai pas beaucoup de temps et que je ne veux pas rester au xishuangbanna, j'aimerais prendre un avion de Jinhong a Lijiang. Le probleme c'est que j'en trouve pas... Savez vous si ca existe, s'il y a des directs ou si il faut passer par Kunming?
Sinon Fred je voulais savoir pourquoi tu trouves les gorges du saut du tigre surcotees? De plus dans le Lonely, il disent que c'est dangereux d'y aller seule, qu'en pensez vous? peut-on prendre un guide sinn??
merci beaucoup
Sinon Fred je voulais savoir pourquoi tu trouves les gorges du saut du tigre surcotees? De plus dans le Lonely, il disent que c'est dangereux d'y aller seule, qu'en pensez vous? peut-on prendre un guide sinn??
merci beaucoup
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**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?
Hi there,
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
I'm planning a 19-day itinerary in Japan this summer.
For a first trip, Kyoto seems like a must. For the rest, I'm torn between:
- Matsumoto, Takayama, Kanazawa for 5 to 6 days
- Kyoto 4 days
- Nara 2 days
- Koyasan 1 day
- Hakone/Mount Fuji 2 to 3 days
- Tokyo 3 days
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Hello,
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
Hi there!
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
Hi everyone who’s reading this!
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi. From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance for your replies! !
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi. From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance for your replies! !
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
Thanks in advance! !
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
Thanks in advance! !
Hello everyone,
I’m reaching out to you because I’m planning our next big trip (Japan is really tempting us for the autumn!) and I have to admit, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed.
My husband and I have always loved traveling, and at 75, we have no intention of stopping... But I find that everything’s getting so complicated. I try to be "modern" by booking online, but as soon as there’s a problem, we hit a wall.
A friend nearly missed her departure last year because of a visa issue that wasn’t explained properly on a website... and no one to call for help, just automated messages.
It makes me a little nervous to be alone in front of a screen so far away, especially since at our age, we like knowing there’s real support if our health takes a turn while we’re there.
Anyway, I’m tired of seeing my file passed from one person to another without ever having the same contact... Do you know of any small, trustworthy agencies or people who still work the "old-fashioned" way and really look after their clients? I love my independence, but I need a real face behind my project.
Thanks in advance for your advice, and I look forward to reading your replies, Catherine
I’m reaching out to you because I’m planning our next big trip (Japan is really tempting us for the autumn!) and I have to admit, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed.
My husband and I have always loved traveling, and at 75, we have no intention of stopping... But I find that everything’s getting so complicated. I try to be "modern" by booking online, but as soon as there’s a problem, we hit a wall.
A friend nearly missed her departure last year because of a visa issue that wasn’t explained properly on a website... and no one to call for help, just automated messages.
It makes me a little nervous to be alone in front of a screen so far away, especially since at our age, we like knowing there’s real support if our health takes a turn while we’re there.
Anyway, I’m tired of seeing my file passed from one person to another without ever having the same contact... Do you know of any small, trustworthy agencies or people who still work the "old-fashioned" way and really look after their clients? I love my independence, but I need a real face behind my project.
Thanks in advance for your advice, and I look forward to reading your replies, Catherine
Hi everyone,
I’m planning our trip to Japan from March 21 to April 11, 2026. We’re planning to travel by plane for long distances (Okinawa) and by train for the rest. I’d like to know if renting a car is easy and, most importantly, if driving with road signs written in Japanese isn’t too complicated. For trains, are there any tips to save money?
Thanks for your advice!
I’m planning our trip to Japan from March 21 to April 11, 2026. We’re planning to travel by plane for long distances (Okinawa) and by train for the rest. I’d like to know if renting a car is easy and, most importantly, if driving with road signs written in Japanese isn’t too complicated. For trains, are there any tips to save money?
Thanks for your advice!
hi everyone, and first of all, I wish you all a happy new year and good health!
This coming October or November, we’re planning our first trip to Japan. The only downside is we’ll only have two weeks off.
For this first visit, I’m thinking of sticking to the Kyoto and Osaka area… saving Tokyo for another trip. Do you think that’s a good choice for a first-time visit?
I’ve put together a little itinerary below to get some feedback from those in the know. I’m only counting the days we’re actually there, not travel days.
Day 1: Kyoto Ginkaku-ji – Philosopher’s Path with stops at a few shrines temples Eikan-dō and Nanzen-ji visit to the Samurai Ninja Museum in the late afternoon
Day 2: Kyoto Fushimi Inari (allow 4 hours for the hike through the park) visit to Sanjūsangen-dō temple Shōseien garden participate in a tea ceremony
Day 3: Kyoto Kiyomizu-dera temple stroll through the historic district up to Kennin-ji temple visit Kennin-ji temple Yasaka-jinja shrine and Gion district in the late afternoon return to the hotel via Pontochō Street
Day 4: Kyoto visit Kinkaku-ji and Nijō Castle visit the Imperial Palace gardens end the day in the shopping streets (Shibkyogoku and Teramachi, among others)
Day 5: Kyoto Arashiyama area Togetsukyo Bridge, walk along the river, visit the Bamboo Forest explore the area up to Otagi Nenbutsu-ji temple
Day 6: Kyoto hike from Kibune to Kurama
Day 7: Kyoto day trip to Nara (full day)
Day 8: stroll around Kyoto before heading to Osaka
Day 9: Osaka Katsuo-ji temple, then head to Minoh Falls and hike back via the Minoh Trail end the day in the Osaka Castle area
Day 10: Osaka Himeji Castle and an afternoon in Osaka
Day 11: Osaka Osaka and return to the airport in the late afternoon for the flight home
Do you think this itinerary is doable? Are some days too relaxed or too packed? I was thinking of adding a trip to Lake Biwa and Uji, but in that case, I’d have to cut some things. Are those places worth dropping some of the planned spots? And if so, which ones would you recommend cutting or shortening?
Thanks in advance—I’m all ears for both positive and negative feedback! stephane
This coming October or November, we’re planning our first trip to Japan. The only downside is we’ll only have two weeks off.
For this first visit, I’m thinking of sticking to the Kyoto and Osaka area… saving Tokyo for another trip. Do you think that’s a good choice for a first-time visit?
I’ve put together a little itinerary below to get some feedback from those in the know. I’m only counting the days we’re actually there, not travel days.
Day 1: Kyoto Ginkaku-ji – Philosopher’s Path with stops at a few shrines temples Eikan-dō and Nanzen-ji visit to the Samurai Ninja Museum in the late afternoon
Day 2: Kyoto Fushimi Inari (allow 4 hours for the hike through the park) visit to Sanjūsangen-dō temple Shōseien garden participate in a tea ceremony
Day 3: Kyoto Kiyomizu-dera temple stroll through the historic district up to Kennin-ji temple visit Kennin-ji temple Yasaka-jinja shrine and Gion district in the late afternoon return to the hotel via Pontochō Street
Day 4: Kyoto visit Kinkaku-ji and Nijō Castle visit the Imperial Palace gardens end the day in the shopping streets (Shibkyogoku and Teramachi, among others)
Day 5: Kyoto Arashiyama area Togetsukyo Bridge, walk along the river, visit the Bamboo Forest explore the area up to Otagi Nenbutsu-ji temple
Day 6: Kyoto hike from Kibune to Kurama
Day 7: Kyoto day trip to Nara (full day)
Day 8: stroll around Kyoto before heading to Osaka
Day 9: Osaka Katsuo-ji temple, then head to Minoh Falls and hike back via the Minoh Trail end the day in the Osaka Castle area
Day 10: Osaka Himeji Castle and an afternoon in Osaka
Day 11: Osaka Osaka and return to the airport in the late afternoon for the flight home
Do you think this itinerary is doable? Are some days too relaxed or too packed? I was thinking of adding a trip to Lake Biwa and Uji, but in that case, I’d have to cut some things. Are those places worth dropping some of the planned spots? And if so, which ones would you recommend cutting or shortening?
Thanks in advance—I’m all ears for both positive and negative feedback! stephane
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Japan in April/May.
I’ll start my journey in Tokyo for 3 to 4 days.
I’d love your advice on accommodation, transportation, an itinerary, and whether a guide would be useful.
I’m traveling solo and could use a little reassurance.
Before I forget... how do payments work?
Thanks for your help, Petra
Thanks for your help, Petra
Hi there,
I’m looking for someone who could help me organize a trip to Japan for my niece and her son. I’ve seen that French-speaking guides are expensive, and the same goes for going through a tour operator.
Airline, local transportation, hotels, etc.
Thanks for your replies!
Betsyl