Retour de 4 semaines à Singapour et en Indonésie
by Rastad
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Bonjour
voici un petit compte rendu de notre voyage en ASE en famille de fin juin à fin juillet
vol Zurich- Abu dahbi- Singapour
un stop de 3 jours 2nuits à Singapour ville agréable propre et sans trop de circulation mais chère voire très chère par comparaison à l'Indonésie
vol de Singapour à Semarang et voiture trajet de 2h 30 h jusqu'à Jepara pour 75 km beaucoup de circulation à Java😕
2 jours 3nuits à Jepara au bayfront village hotel agréable avec sa chambre au bord de la piscine
assez cher 50 euros mais confortable pdj inclus
puis ferry pour Karimunjawa assez galère pas moyen d'avoir des billets en avance pour le ferry rapide car plus de place!! obligés d'etre tot le matin au port pour avoir des billets en faisant la queue au bout d'une heure on nous dit qu'il n'y a plus de billets!!!!! ensuite enèrvement quasi général avec palabres et enfin on doit inscrire notre nom et le nombre de personnes sur une liste
et qu'on nous appelle pour enfin avoir les billets pour le ferry lent un peu plus de 4 heures de trajet avec pas mal de monde à bord)
Karimunjawa 8 jours passés là bas hotel casa vellion que je ne conseille pas spécialement ensuite avons été au mangrove in correct
archipel décontracté ballade à faire en scooter ou voiture, plus 2 sorties snorkeling avec barbecue
snorkeling correct mais sans plus sympa mais passablement de touristes indonésien en cette période de vacances indo mais bien pour etre en contact avec la population( et faire des photos photos)
très beau temps (beaucoup de soleil)
retour en ferry rapide sans problème en 2h30 environ et voiture vers semarang
1 jour 2 nuits à Semarang avant de prendre l'avion pour Makassar une nuit au Harper(très bon hotel 4 étoiles près de l'aéroport)
le lendemain vol pour wangi wangi à Wakatobi 4 nuits sur place avec visite de l'ile en voiture et 2 sorties bateau snorkeling beau snorkeling
ensuite ferry lent pour L'ile de Tomia petite ile très paisible ( un havre de paix) avec visite de l'ile en voiture plages désèrtes pas de touristes (seulement 2 croisés à Waha)
Magnifique excurtion en bateau(1h 30) sur l'ile de N'daa le paradis...... l'ile pour nous tout seul....
on en fait le tour en 20 minutes , Magnifique tombant à proximité avec superbe snorkeling...😉
nous avons aussi été à l'ilot de Sawa pour faire du snorkeling très beau ainsi que plusieurs autres spots
en résumé Tomia est l'endroit que j'ai préféré très calme , beau paysage terrestre et tés bon snorkeling, population sympathique😏
j'aurais bien voulu visiter Kaledupa, Hoga et binonko .....mais pas assez de temps dommage , peut etre une prochaine fois
retour sur wang wangi en ferry pour l'avion de retour
fin de cette aventure trop courte mais ce n'est que partie remise
Hello,
Merci pour CR, car il n'y a pas bcp d'infos, dans quels hôtels es tu allés à Wakatobi/Tomia ?
Mes vidéos de voyages et surtout de snorkeling https://www.youtube.com/user/tsarabanjina
oui préférence à Wakatobi Tomia encore peut atteind par le tourisme
il y a un resort sur une petite ile à coté mais ce sont des touristes plongeurs qui font leurs plongées et restent au resort
si l'on recherche la tranquilité Tomia est parfaite en plus d'un très bon snorkeling😏
Mon seul regret est de ne pas avoir eu plus de temps cette année afin de visiter le autres iles Kaledupa, Bignonko
Danilo
A Tomia on était chez ABY JAYA à 200 mètres du petit port à Waha
chambre confortable et grande avec de supers lits en bois sculptés de Jepara (j'aurais bien ramenés le lit chez moi😄) bonne literie, AC, sdb, toilettes 20euros
on peut y manger pour 12 euros pour 6 personnes plusieurs sortes de poissons, satay, légumes, riz rouge, fruits, salades, thé , café à gogo, excellent rapport qualité prix
il y 2 autres petit hotel à proximité et quelques autres dans le reste de l'ile
Avec plaisir de vous informer
Danilo😎
Merci Danilo pour ce compte rendu
Bonne soirée
Fabienne
en MP
Merci pour le retour! Voilà donc encore un spot sympa en Indonesie...
Pour info on est allé 5 jours à Alor, c'est sympa mais snorkelling en dessous de Bunaken. Cette année le meilleur aura été au large de Maumere vers Pulau Babi. On vient d'arriver à Labuan Bajo et on attend de voir Komodo...
Marifb
Aaah tu me fais regretter de ne pas être allé à Pulau Ndaa... il y avait trop de vagues 🙁
Je suis d'accord avec toi pour Tomia, c'est aussi ma préféré à Wakatobi et l'hôtel Abi Jaya est excellent, tant pour les chambres que pour la nourriture (petit point négatif sur la location de scooter à 100.000 la journée).
Sinon sur Jepara on peut loger chez l'habitant pour moins de 200.000 (tout confort avec la clim et au calme). Je vois qu'ils sont google maps maintenant: www.google.com/...592672!4d110.6789088
Moi perso j'ai beaucoup aimé Karimunjawa mais j'y étais hors saison (avril), par contre avec un temps mitigé. Idem pas de galère particulière avec le ferry si ce n'est un réveil matinal pour rien (gros retard du bateau).
Loic
Sinon sur Jepara on peut loger chez l'habitant pour moins de 200.000 (tout confort avec la clim et au calme). Je vois qu'ils sont google maps maintenant: www.google.com/...592672!4d110.6789088
Moi perso j'ai beaucoup aimé Karimunjawa mais j'y étais hors saison (avril), par contre avec un temps mitigé. Idem pas de galère particulière avec le ferry si ce n'est un réveil matinal pour rien (gros retard du bateau).
Loic
Merci Danilo🙂
Mes vidéos de voyages et surtout de snorkeling https://www.youtube.com/user/tsarabanjina
as-tu eu l'occasion de visiter Kaledupa, Hoga et Bignonko lors de ton passage à Waka ?
La prochaine fois j'aimerais aller aux Moluques(iles Banda) et Raja ampat😏
es tu passé par là-bas? si oui que peux tu en dire? d'après ce que j'ai pu voir ca me donne envie d'y aller..........
Merci d'avance de ta réponse
Danilo
Oui j'étais resté 3 semaines à Wakatobi, une semaine Wanci, une semaine Kaledupa & Hoga, une semaine Tomia (j'avais fait l'impasse sur Binongko).
Kaledupa très jolie également, et bien sûr Hoga, petit paradis plus connu (mais il n'y avait personne lors de mon séjour).
J'aime particulièrement la pointe ouest de Kaledupa
Les habitants du village d'à côté pourront t'indiquer une curiosité: un lac ou vit plein de petites crevettes rouges (elles sortent au soleil couchant):
Ils pourront aussi te payer un coup à boire 😉
Snorkeling sympa (pas le meilleur de Wakatobi mais déjà très bon), par contre il faut nager loin (ou louer une pirogue au village):
Quant à Hoga, voila le genre d'ambiance quelques jours avant Noel 2016 🙂
Les iles Banda, j'y suis allé il y a plus longtemps, très belles également, snorkling superbe (je n'en a pas fait assez) et très belles plages dans certaines îles. Une particularité aux iles Banda: c'est l'endroit où j'ai le mieux mangé en 20 voyages en Indonésie (mais il faut choisir là où on loge car on se se régale pas partout).
Petite photo souvenir des iles Banda (janvier 2010):
J'aime particulièrement la pointe ouest de Kaledupa

Les habitants du village d'à côté pourront t'indiquer une curiosité: un lac ou vit plein de petites crevettes rouges (elles sortent au soleil couchant):

Ils pourront aussi te payer un coup à boire 😉

Snorkeling sympa (pas le meilleur de Wakatobi mais déjà très bon), par contre il faut nager loin (ou louer une pirogue au village):

Quant à Hoga, voila le genre d'ambiance quelques jours avant Noel 2016 🙂

Les iles Banda, j'y suis allé il y a plus longtemps, très belles également, snorkling superbe (je n'en a pas fait assez) et très belles plages dans certaines îles. Une particularité aux iles Banda: c'est l'endroit où j'ai le mieux mangé en 20 voyages en Indonésie (mais il faut choisir là où on loge car on se se régale pas partout).
Petite photo souvenir des iles Banda (janvier 2010):

J'y étais un mois de janvier. On a eu une météo mitigée, plusieurs jours de pluie non stop puis du beau temps avec ciel laiteux pas toujours génial pour la photo. Ceci étant dit l'absence de montagnes dans la région fait que les nuages passent très vite et n'ont pas de point d'accroche, ce qui réserve de beaux passages ensoleillés entre les gros nuages 🙂

Les orages peuvent nous tomber dessus en quelques minutes...

De mémoire les locaux me disaient que septembre-octobre étaient les meilleurs mois pour les iles Banda. Il y a eu des retours sur VF de voyageurs reportant une météo très mauvaise en juillet-août...
Non je n'ai jamais été aux Raja Ampat. J'aime voyager longtemps et du coup je fais attention à mon budget quotidien, et puis je n'aime pas trop ressentir le sentiment d'être une vache à traire.
Loic

Les orages peuvent nous tomber dessus en quelques minutes...

De mémoire les locaux me disaient que septembre-octobre étaient les meilleurs mois pour les iles Banda. Il y a eu des retours sur VF de voyageurs reportant une météo très mauvaise en juillet-août...
Non je n'ai jamais été aux Raja Ampat. J'aime voyager longtemps et du coup je fais attention à mon budget quotidien, et puis je n'aime pas trop ressentir le sentiment d'être une vache à traire.
Loic
J'adorerai voir ces crevettes rouges, superbes photos. Merci, les Bandas sont programmées (octobre ou novembre 2019) et j'irai surement faire un tour du coté de Wakatobi aussi, mais quand !! Quelle est la meilleure période pour Wakatobi ?
Mes vidéos de voyages et surtout de snorkeling https://www.youtube.com/user/tsarabanjina
Donc notre été, merci Danilo.
Mes vidéos de voyages et surtout de snorkeling https://www.youtube.com/user/tsarabanjina
de rien on est là pour ca
non pas de regret d'etre passé par Kari avant Waka ce qui est fait est fait et Kari c'était bien aussi
si je devais refaire sachant que j'ai déjà été à Karimunjawa je n'y retournerai pas , je préfèrerai passer 4 semaines (c'est le temps de mon séjour cette année) à Wakatobi et visiter l'archipel plus longtemps pour moi 4 semaines c'est le temps nécessaire pour bien voyager à Wakatobi
J'adorerai voir ces crevettes rouges, superbes photos. Merci, les Bandas sont programmées (octobre ou novembre 2019) et j'irai surement faire un tour du coté de Wakatobi aussi, mais quand !! Quelle est la meilleure période pour Wakatobi ?
Je ne crois pas que Wakatobi obéisse à de véritables saisons, car l'archipel subit à la fois le climat des Banggai et de Nusa Tenggara, climats qui sont plus ou moins inversés. On a des graphiques 2017/18 sur cette page: https://www.wakatobi.com/the-diving-experience/seasons/current-weather/
Sinon par rapport au débat Karimunjawa vs Wakatobi, moi je suis quand même un peu partagé 😛
(Karimunjawa avril 2016)



Je ne crois pas que Wakatobi obéisse à de véritables saisons, car l'archipel subit à la fois le climat des Banggai et de Nusa Tenggara, climats qui sont plus ou moins inversés. On a des graphiques 2017/18 sur cette page: https://www.wakatobi.com/the-diving-experience/seasons/current-weather/
Sinon par rapport au débat Karimunjawa vs Wakatobi, moi je suis quand même un peu partagé 😛
(Karimunjawa avril 2016)




C'est vraiment magnifique au-dessus de l'eau🙂 Par contre au-dessous, y a pas photo en faveur de Wakatobi, c'est bien cela ?
Et merci aussi pour le lien.
Mes vidéos de voyages et surtout de snorkeling https://www.youtube.com/user/tsarabanjina
Tout à fait 🙂
Karimunjawa c'est sympa sous l'eau

Mais Wakatobi c'est un autre niveau !


Mais Wakatobi c'est un autre niveau !

Merci à tous les deux
Mes vidéos de voyages et surtout de snorkeling https://www.youtube.com/user/tsarabanjina
Merci Lolo,
Je cherchais des infos surtout le temps car aimerais y être en mars, peu d'infos de ce côté.
Cordialement.
Emma.
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Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!






