Retour d'un mois en Bolivie et un peu au Pérou
by Cecil34
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Hola,
Voilà, c'est fini, c'est la rentrée, je reviens d'un mois en Bolivie et un peu au Pérou, et comme plein de gens sur ce site m'ont donné des renseignements précieux avant mon départ, je suis prète à mon tour à répondre aux quelques questions que vous vous posez, vous heureux veinards qui allez partir maintenant ou dans pas longtemps, si c'est dans mes cordes, ce sera un plaisir.
Bon voyage
bonjour, je pars fin du mois etpour 3 semaines.J'espère bcp de ce voyage car tous les messages sur VF sont tellement sympa!!.Peux-tu me dire la température que tu as eue, eventuellement ce qui t'a manqué ds tes bagages et une idée des petits souvenirs à ramener (prix et lieux d'achat les meilleurs )?
Merci
Salut, on va faire le mm voyage que toi en novembre (à2). Peux tu nous dire un peu ce que tu as vu, le budget moyen, si tu as été vaccinée contre le fievre jaune. Nous on atteri a Calama au Chili et on repart de La Paz 3 semaines et demi plus tard. Si tu as fait un road book ou quoi tu peux nous l'envoyer.
Merci bcp par avance.
Mallory et Benoît
Salut,
c cool, moi je pars d'ici peu en bolivie plusieurs jours avant de rejoindre l'uruguay (montevideo). Peux tu me conseiller sur les trajets en bus (nom des compagnies, prix approximatifs...), ya t'il des compagnies d'ailleurs qui se rendent de pays en pays (on m'a dit que les voyages en bus se faisaient très bien en amerique du sud.). Merci pour ces renseignements, et bon courage a toi pour la rentree ;)
Nico
c cool, moi je pars d'ici peu en bolivie plusieurs jours avant de rejoindre l'uruguay (montevideo). Peux tu me conseiller sur les trajets en bus (nom des compagnies, prix approximatifs...), ya t'il des compagnies d'ailleurs qui se rendent de pays en pays (on m'a dit que les voyages en bus se faisaient très bien en amerique du sud.). Merci pour ces renseignements, et bon courage a toi pour la rentree ;)
Nico
Hola Cecil34, alors ça c'est bien passé ton voyage?
Nous revenons nous aussi de la Bolivie et du sud du Pérou où nous sommes restés 2.5 mois. Nous nous joignons à Cecil34 pour repondre à vos questions. Nous avons d'ailleurs un site sur nos voyages en Amérique latine (adresse ci-dessous); Je vois qu'il y a beaucoup de questions concernant le budget. Notre budget figurera très rapidement sur notre site! A bientôt et bons voyages à tous!
Patrice et Carine de Toulouse
http://ameriklatina.free.fr (Amérique latine)
Donc au niveau températures, c'est l'hiver. Les journées pas de problème, ça peut monter facile à 25 - 30 degrés, mais dès que le soleil se couche, c.a.d vers 18 heures, ça dégringole. Genre 0 à 5 degrés, voire moins 15 dans le sud lipez ou le salar.
Les hotels que nous avons pris n'étaient pas chauffés, on avait environ 10 degrés dans les chambres, mais il y a toujours une pile de couvertures. On avait nos gros duvets, des fois il a fallu les rajouter dans certaines chambres. En tout cas, dans le lipez et le salar, c'est indispensable.
Pour les bagages, un cadenas peut être bienvenu, et aussi un sursac à dos, pour éviter qu'ils ne se pourrissent dans les soutes des bus.
Si tu randonnes, prévois du micropur pour éviter de te trimballer des litres d'eau minérale.
Coté souvenirs, la bolivie est moins chère que le pérou, mais tu n'as pas tout à fait les mêmes choses.
En tout cas, toujours beaucoup de textile, des aguayos magnifiques (tissages), plus beaux en bolivie, bruts ou taillés en ponchos, multiples sacs, trousses, coussins... Des pulls des gants et des bonnets en alpaga, toujours très baba, des instruments de musique (charangos et flutes), au Pérou de la poterie, imitation style inca. La Paz est le meilleur endroit pour les achats d'après moi.
Bon voyage, tu en as de la chance !
Cécile
Des endroits à éviter, aucun. Tu as la chance d'etre motorisé, et de t'arreter partout ou tu veux, profite !
Si tu vas dans le Lipez, discute avant avec des chauffeurs d'agences, pour te faire expliquer un peu les pistes. C'est pas évident, il y en a plusieurs et aucun panneau.
Dans le Salar d'Uyuni, ne te laisse pas griser par l'aspect autoroute plate, reste sur les pistes, car il y a des trous en formation qu'on voit au dernier moment, et nombreux sont les véhicules qui se plantent dedans et mettent une demi journée à s'en sortir.
Prévois le cric et les cailloux pour te désenliser des traversées de rivières gelées quand tu passes à travers la couche de glace.
Tu vas te régaler !
Cécile
Bonjour Poporenton,
Depuis quelques jours il y a des manifestations en Bolivie ( contre Morales ), et aujourd'hui vendredi il y a greve generale dans 4 departements boliviens : Beni, Pando, Tarija et Santa Cruz.
Y a t'il en ce moment des voyageurs en Bolivie pour nous raconter un peu comment ca se passe ?
Depuis une semaine il est difficile d'entrer et de sortir de Copacabana. Les touristes doivent quitter la ville a pied .
Les touristes doivent passer la frontiere a pied entre Copacabana et Kasani la frontiere avec le Perou. Y a t'il des infos toutes fraiches de ce qui se passe la bas ? A bientot ! Herge !
Depuis quelques jours il y a des manifestations en Bolivie ( contre Morales ), et aujourd'hui vendredi il y a greve generale dans 4 departements boliviens : Beni, Pando, Tarija et Santa Cruz.
Y a t'il en ce moment des voyageurs en Bolivie pour nous raconter un peu comment ca se passe ?
Depuis une semaine il est difficile d'entrer et de sortir de Copacabana. Les touristes doivent quitter la ville a pied .
Les touristes doivent passer la frontiere a pied entre Copacabana et Kasani la frontiere avec le Perou. Y a t'il des infos toutes fraiches de ce qui se passe la bas ? A bientot ! Herge !Tout sur l Argentine, et completé 24h/24h depuis le 29 oct 2005
http://www.petitherge.com/
Salut Ben,
Du Chili, tu arrives par le sud, donc tu commences par le plus beau, le sud Lipez et le salar, que tu peux t'organiser depuis San Pedro de Atacama. D'Uyuni, tu peux aller à Potosi, super ville que j'ai beaucoup appréciée, ciel très bleu, ville qui bouge, climat agréable, bonne ambiance. Et puis Sucre, j'ai moins aimé mais on y était pendant la fête nationale et la Constituyente organisée par >Moralès, avec un déploiement impressionnant de militaires et policiers, grosse foule, manifs, défilés militaires, et tout fermé...
La Paz est incontournable.
Un tour dans les Yungas si tu as le temps ou au bord de la jungle à Rurrenabaque si tu as encore plus de temps. En fait de la Paz, tu choisis, tu as plein de possibilités : Rurre, les Yungas, le Titicaca, ou un trek dans la cordillière Real.
C'est à peu près ce que j'ai fait, mais dans l'autre sens.
C.
Salut.
Pour l'Uruguay, j'en ai aucune idée, mais de la Paz, de Santa Cruz, de Sucre il y a des compagnies internationales qui offrent des trajets directs en tre les grandes villes. Ce sont des bus semi cama où ils te servent des plateaux repas et qui ne font pas d'arrets ou presque pas. Sinon, par petits sauts, tu dois y arriver.
Pour te donner un ordre de prix, un La Paz Lima direct revient à 70 dollars (26 heures).
En liaisons intérieures, un Sucre La paz (8 heures) coute 80 bolivianos, soit 8 euros....
Comme compagnies, yen a plein, les plus connues (mais les plus chères sont Ormeno et Cruz del Sur, mais pour moi elles se valent toutes.
Cécile
Pas de panique...
D'après ce que j'ai ressenti, c'est vrai que les boliviens sont un peu déçus car ils attendaient beaucoup de Moralès, et c'est surtout les lobbies capitalistes de Santa Cruz qui veulent lui mettre des batons dans les roues.
Je ne pense pas que ces manifs soient très violentes, et il faut se méfier des infos souvent alarmistes qui arrivent jusqu'à nous. (voir le site TRES alarmiste du consulat français qui présente la Bolivie comme un pays très dangeureux...)
Merci Cécile,
J'apprécie ts les détails que tu me donnes.Je pense avoir l'essentiel en vêtements chauds. J'ai aussi prévu micropur.Je prépare activement. Je me pose question pour les photos:j'aimerais là-bas en faire des sauvegardes au cas où... Mon fils me dit qu'il y a toujours des petites boutiques qui peuvent transférer sur CD (il a vu cela en Inde )mais ont-ils les logiciels pour ts les appareils numeriques?Dis-moi si tu as vu cela ou si tu l'as pratiqué toi-même.Sinon, j'aimerais réponse d'un autre membre VF.
Chibopé
Salut,
Ma question concerne le climat : quand es-tu partie exactement et le temps est-il agréable ? quel temps faisait-il exactement ?
Ma question concerne le climat : quand es-tu partie exactement et le temps est-il agréable ? quel temps faisait-il exactement ?
Thierry
Je suis partie du 10 juillet au 18 aout.
Le ciel a été bleu quasiment tout le voyage (hormis à Lima et sur la côte où c'est toujours brumeux sale).
Coté températures, sur l'altiplano (Cuzco, Titicaca, La Paz, Potosi, Uyuni et le Lipez), c'est à dire au dessus de 3500 m d'altitude, belles journées, 15 à 25 degrés, mais dès que le soleil disparait, le froid tombe. Ca descend à 5 degrés, parfois zéro. Dans le Lipez et le Salar, beaucoup de vent et des températures nocturnes jusqu'à moins quinze. Toutes les rivières sont gelées. Pour le 15 aout, il a neigé .
Par contre, si tu descend un peu en altitude, c'est plus doux (Sucre, et les Yungas bien sur). Plutot du coté des 25 à 30 degrés.
Tu pars quand ?
Cécile
Salut.
Pour l'Uruguay, j'en ai aucune idée, mais de la Paz, de Santa Cruz, de Sucre il y a des compagnies internationales qui offrent des trajets directs en tre les grandes villes. Ce sont des bus semi cama où ils te servent des plateaux repas et qui ne font pas d'arrets ou presque pas. Sinon, par petits sauts, tu dois y arriver.
Pour te donner un ordre de prix, un La Paz Lima direct revient à 70 dollars (26 heures).
En liaisons intérieures, un Sucre La paz (8 heures) coute 80 bolivianos, soit 8 euros....
Comme compagnies, yen a plein, les plus connues (mais les plus chères sont Ormeno et Cruz del Sur, mais pour moi elles se valent toutes.
Cécile
salut, est ce que c'est vrai que les bus sont bondés? nous souhaitons voyager de nuit surtout, pour dormir, mais bon, est ce "confortable" ou vraiment bruillant et donc impossible de dormir...
salut, est ce que c'est vrai que les bus sont bondés? nous souhaitons voyager de nuit surtout, pour dormir, mais bon, est ce "confortable" ou vraiment bruillant et donc impossible de dormir...
j'veux repartirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.......
Alors pour répondre au message du dessus, les bus longue distances sont super confortables (enfin, pour des bus), avec sièges inclinables, petit repose pied, etc. (Je parle bien des bus longue distance, pas des collectivos qui vont d'un village à l'autre où là c'est bondé). Le seul problème dans ces bus, c'est que tu as la vidéo. Pas moyen d'échapper à une longue série interminable de films pourris américains bien hurlant et bien sanglants style Vandamme et compagnie. Sur le La Paz Lima, (26 h), on en a eu 6 à la suite. Terrible...
Et pour répondre à PQiroul, en novembre je connais pas trop le climat. Je suis partie avec Air France/Taca mais j'ai pris un vol Paris Lima via Caracas parce que tous les vols que je trouvais pour Paris La Paz étaient super chers, genre 1600 € avec Des compagnies américaines, donc escale aux USA, problème de passeport, etc. J'ai quand même payé mon vol 1200€, même en l'achetant 3 mois à l'avance, c'est ce que j'ai trouvé de moins cher. Tu en es où de tes recherches ?
Et pour répondre à PQiroul, en novembre je connais pas trop le climat. Je suis partie avec Air France/Taca mais j'ai pris un vol Paris Lima via Caracas parce que tous les vols que je trouvais pour Paris La Paz étaient super chers, genre 1600 € avec Des compagnies américaines, donc escale aux USA, problème de passeport, etc. J'ai quand même payé mon vol 1200€, même en l'achetant 3 mois à l'avance, c'est ce que j'ai trouvé de moins cher. Tu en es où de tes recherches ?
Salut,
je pars le mois prochain pour 3 semaines.
j'arrive directement à La Paz. Je ne me suis jamais retrouvée à si hte altitude.
On m'a conseillé aujourd'hui de prendre un vol pour Sucre tout de suite pour redescendre. Je n'avais pas prévu ça comme ça au départ.
As-tu souffert du "mal de l'altitude". L'acclimatation est-elle difficile ?
2ème question, je prévois de faire une partie du voyage seule. Est-ce qu'il y a des zones qui "craignent" vraiment en terme de sécurité.
Je te remercie de pour ce partage d'expérience.
Bonne soirée
je pars le mois prochain pour 3 semaines.
j'arrive directement à La Paz. Je ne me suis jamais retrouvée à si hte altitude.
On m'a conseillé aujourd'hui de prendre un vol pour Sucre tout de suite pour redescendre. Je n'avais pas prévu ça comme ça au départ.
As-tu souffert du "mal de l'altitude". L'acclimatation est-elle difficile ?
2ème question, je prévois de faire une partie du voyage seule. Est-ce qu'il y a des zones qui "craignent" vraiment en terme de sécurité.
Je te remercie de pour ce partage d'expérience.
Bonne soirée
Salut Sacatelle,
Bon, au niveau de l'altitude, franchement je ne trouve pas que ça vaille le coup de redescendre à Sucre si c'est pas dans ton plan de voyage. Moi j'ai atteri à Cuzco depuis Lima, donc à peu près à la même altitude que la Paz, 3600 m (le centre de la Paz est à 3600 aussi, c'est seulement l'airport qui est à 4000 ), et tout s'est bien passé. Evidemment t'es un peu essoufflée quand tu fais un effort, genre monter une rue en pente, mais au bout d'un jour ou 2 tout va bien. Simplement prévois 1 ou 2 jours d'acclimatation avnt de partir en trek faire des efforts intempestifs.
Au niveau sécurité, je ne me suis jamais sentie en danger, ni au Pérou, ni en Bolivie. Donc je ne vois aucun endroit à te déconseiller.
Ne stresse pas, la Bolivie est un super pays, have a good time ! Cécile
Au niveau sécurité, je ne me suis jamais sentie en danger, ni au Pérou, ni en Bolivie. Donc je ne vois aucun endroit à te déconseiller.
Ne stresse pas, la Bolivie est un super pays, have a good time ! Cécile
hola,
certes tu arrives à 4100m (aéroport) avant de redescendre à 3600m (centre ville) mais il suffit d'attendre 2, 3 jours sur place, sans marcher exagerement pour s'acclimater à l'altitude. Au départ tu risques d'avoir des maux de tête, voir de la fièvre, le temps que ton corps fabrique la quantité de globules rouges nécessaire pour palier au manque d'oxygène mais ensuite pas de soucis. Il est extremement rare de souffrir de complication dû à l'altitude. Mais dans ce cas, prends simplement le bus pour Sorata ou Coroico (à 4h de route) pour redescendre un peu... pas la peine de prendre un avion pour Sucre! Si tu eux plus d'infos jetes un oeil à notre site (adresse ci-dessous)
bon voyage
Patrice et Carine de Toulouse
http://ameriklatina.free.fr (Amérique latine)
salut! c'est moi qui vais avoir l'honneur de te répondre!
en novembre, l'été arrive tout doucement, ( la saison des pluies aussi) donc il fait plus chaud la nuit et les journées se ralongent un peu
donc il fait (tres) chaud le jour, chaud le soir et matin et toujours froid la nuit (mais la nuit, on dort, hein??) et il ne pleut pas encore
de plus, novembre est un peu le mois "mort" pour les touristes, il parait que c'est à cette époque qu'il y en a le moins! (c'est ce que tout le monde nous a dit lorsque nous étions sur l"ile du soleil "deserte", où vous devez aller imperativement!! d'ailleurs c'est bien en novembre où nous avons vu le moins de touristes!)
vous avez de la chance! (amenez un petit carnet de photos de france pour le montrer aux boliviens, cela leur fera plaisir loool 😉) à plus! /nico/
vous avez de la chance! (amenez un petit carnet de photos de france pour le montrer aux boliviens, cela leur fera plaisir loool 😉) à plus! /nico/
Bonjour,
Nous sommes deux filles en cours de voyage au Perou et nous nous appretons a partir dans quelques jours vers la Bolivie. Bien que je sache que la Bolivie est un pays sous tension d un point de vue politique, je voudrais savoir comment tu as ressenti les choses durant ton periple ? Le passage de Copacabana vers La Paz semble delicat en raison des blocages eventuels des routes, as tu eu ce genre de problemes ? Et au niveau de la securite ?
Sinon, d un point de vue decouverte, quels sont les lieux qui t ont le plus plu ? Les alentours de Sucre sont, parait il, magnifiques a faire a pied ?
Merci d avance pour ta reponse,
Celine.
Nous sommes deux filles en cours de voyage au Perou et nous nous appretons a partir dans quelques jours vers la Bolivie. Bien que je sache que la Bolivie est un pays sous tension d un point de vue politique, je voudrais savoir comment tu as ressenti les choses durant ton periple ? Le passage de Copacabana vers La Paz semble delicat en raison des blocages eventuels des routes, as tu eu ce genre de problemes ? Et au niveau de la securite ?
Sinon, d un point de vue decouverte, quels sont les lieux qui t ont le plus plu ? Les alentours de Sucre sont, parait il, magnifiques a faire a pied ?
Merci d avance pour ta reponse,
Celine.
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Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
Hi there,
Do you have any recommendations for comfortable accommodation in Leyva and Barichara? We're also looking for a guide to explore the areas around these two towns (parks, waterfalls, etc.).
Thanks for your tips!
I visited Colombia in January 2016 and I’m heading back from August 6th to 17th with the same airline to see how things have changed. Starting August 18th, I’ll continue with independent exploration. I prefer slow travel and enjoying places at my own pace.
Any tips—especially for getting around or must-see spots—are welcome!
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Hi there,
Three years ago during a trip to Java (no, I didn’t post in the wrong forum!), I came across the address of former miners who had switched to “tourism” and organized nighttime ascents of the Kawah Ijen volcano and descents into the crater.
So I was thinking—maybe there are miners on the salt flats too, either former or still active, who do the same thing. If you’ve had an experience like this, I’d love any tips you can share.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there, since there isn’t much recent info on how to get to MP, I’d love to know if there have been any improvements to the "route" to Hydroelectrica. Is it feasible to drive there in February? And is it still possible to walk all the way to Aguas Calientes? I think I read somewhere that it’s no longer allowed??
Do you think I can buy Machu Picchu entrance tickets last-minute at that time of year, given the weather?
Hello everyone!
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
Everything You Need to Know About Argentina’s Currency Exchange Maze (2026 Edition)
Hi fellow travelers,
Packing your bags for Buenos Aires? Watch out—here, money is a science almost as complex as the dance steps in a tango!
As of March 2026, the situation has shifted dramatically: the "Blue" (parallel) rate is now neck-and-neck with the official rate. To save you from losing your hard-earned euros in bureaucratic mazes or "disastrous" exchange rates, I’ve laced up my reporter boots and hit the famous Calle Florida for you.
In my latest video (and the accompanying article), I take you behind the scenes of currency exchange:
Arbolitos and Cuevas: Who are they, and can you still trust them? The Rate Showdown: Why Banco Nación is currently the worst place for your savings. Western Union: Why it’s often your best ally right now. Cash or Card? The little secret to getting an instant 10–15% discount at restaurants or hotels. The Bill Trap: Why your 500 € notes or stained dollars might stay in your wallet.
Argentina changes fast—*very* fast (by the end of March, today’s advice might already be old news!). So don’t leave without checking the market’s pulse.
Check out all my tips in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmKFux4fpQ
And remember: in Argentina, don’t exchange money on weekends—unless you want your cash to melt like snow in the sun!
Safe travels, and see you on the road! Hergé
Packing your bags for Buenos Aires? Watch out—here, money is a science almost as complex as the dance steps in a tango!
As of March 2026, the situation has shifted dramatically: the "Blue" (parallel) rate is now neck-and-neck with the official rate. To save you from losing your hard-earned euros in bureaucratic mazes or "disastrous" exchange rates, I’ve laced up my reporter boots and hit the famous Calle Florida for you.
In my latest video (and the accompanying article), I take you behind the scenes of currency exchange:
Arbolitos and Cuevas: Who are they, and can you still trust them? The Rate Showdown: Why Banco Nación is currently the worst place for your savings. Western Union: Why it’s often your best ally right now. Cash or Card? The little secret to getting an instant 10–15% discount at restaurants or hotels. The Bill Trap: Why your 500 € notes or stained dollars might stay in your wallet.
Argentina changes fast—*very* fast (by the end of March, today’s advice might already be old news!). So don’t leave without checking the market’s pulse.
Check out all my tips in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmKFux4fpQ
And remember: in Argentina, don’t exchange money on weekends—unless you want your cash to melt like snow in the sun!
Safe travels, and see you on the road! Hergé