Retour d'un voyage en Égypte, Cléopatra avec Marmara
by Brunicou
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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départ de Toulouse fin février 2010 vers 23h arrivée au Caire vers 3h puis 2h pour obtenir visas, bagages et bus, arrivée hôtel à 6h et départ pour le musée du Caire à 7h15.La 1° nuit donc on ne dort pas sauf un peu dans l'avion airbus A320 aux sièges fatigués et aux places minis.
L'accompagnateur Marmara a été présent toute la semaine et s'est montré très professionnel dans l'organisation du séjour. les hôtels, les bus et le bateau étaient d'un niveau de qualité supérieur sans être du grand luxe. Oubliez la gastronomie pendant 8 jours ce n'est pas le but du voyage, oubliez aussi les grasses matinées on se lève tous les jours à 7h minimum sauf le dernier jour.
Un guide égyptologue accompagne chaque groupe de 30 personnes dans toutes les visites, le notre fort sympa et très compétent était un peu soporifique et embrouillé, 20 dynasties de pharaons + les dieux, les déesses, les reines etc... c'est pas évident à appréhender même si on a quelques souvenirs des lointains cours d'histoire. Les temples, les pyramides, les nécropoles royales tout est vraiment pharaonique, le Caire est un des villes les plus bordélique du monde, la conduite égyptienne est un spectacle permanent les millions de piétons côtoient les millions de voitures dans tous les sens + les carrioles tirées par ânes et chevaux c'est sportif.
Tous les sites sont sous haute surveillance policière, j'ai jamais vu autant de flics.
Le point noir du voyage c'est les égyptiens qui tentent de vivre ou survivre du tourisme, à l'extérieur des sites (musée, temples) une horde de vendeurs à la sauvette et de boutiquiers en tout genre vous harcèlent de toutes parts, certes ils sont gentils, mais franchement très casses burnes. En plus si vous voulez acheter il ne faut pas oublier de diviser le prix annoncé par 3 ou plus selon la somme.Dans les souks il y a un vendeur tous les mètres alors coté shopping les boutiques trouvées dans le guide routard sont plus agréables à fréquenter.
Vous aurez aussi droit aux visites commerciales obligatoires (papyrus, parfum, albâtre et bijou) qui permettent aux guides de s'arrondir les fin de mois, accueil toujours chaleureux et aucune pression d'achat.
La croisière sur le Nil c'est sympa mais beaucoup de bruit dans le bateau, provenant souvent des bateaux voisins qui viennent se garer contre le votre à n'importe quelle heure de la nuit.
Pour les suppléments proposés j'ai fait le son et lumière aux pyramides, un peu cher, mais c'est là que les voyagistes rattrapent leurs marges, puis la matinée en bateau vers la cataracte du Nil avec balade en dromadaire et visite d'un village Nubien, moment très agréable sur le Nil.
Au final c'est un voyage bien cadencé à faire hors haute saison et été car tout le monde visite les mêmes monuments et si les températures étaient agréables en février il doit faire très très chaud dans le sud dès le printemps. Je ne vois pas l'intéret d'amener des gamins puisque tout est concentré sur la découverte des monuments et l'histoire de l'Égypte antique. On passe beaucoup de temps dans les transports surtout au Caire, je ne suis pas un grand fan des voyages organisés mais je pense qu'il serai difficile en solitaire de faire la même chose sans bien connaitre le pays avant.
Je recommande cette formule qui permet vraiment de découvrir des sites exceptionnels dans un dépaysement total.
Je crois au contraire qu'en le préparant (les forums entre autres sont faits pour ça)vous pouvez aisément faire un magnifique voyage car non seulement on peut voir la même chose mais bien plus encore et sans se lever à des heures trop matinales. Voyager seul ou en couple permet de mieux appréhender la population, le mode de vie, les visites etc. L'Egypte est un pays très facile à visiter par ses propres moyens !
qui permettent aux guides de s'arrondir les fin de mois
Grrrr... Essayez de vivre avec leur salaire avant de dire qu'il arrondissent leur fin de mois. Il travaille en moyenne 2 semaines par mois, voir moins et gagne donc moins de 200€/mois. Essayez de vivre avec cette somme.
je pense qu'il serai difficile en solitaire de faire la même chose sans bien connaitre le pays avant.
Grace aux informations que l'on trouve actuellement sur les differents forums de voyages, il est très facile de voyager seul en égypte.
Grrrr... Essayez de vivre avec leur salaire avant de dire qu'il arrondissent leur fin de mois. Il travaille en moyenne 2 semaines par mois, voir moins et gagne donc moins de 200€/mois. Essayez de vivre avec cette somme.
je pense qu'il serai difficile en solitaire de faire la même chose sans bien connaitre le pays avant.
Grace aux informations que l'on trouve actuellement sur les differents forums de voyages, il est très facile de voyager seul en égypte.
😉 Viens voyager sur mon site http://la.descente.du.nil.over-blog.fr/ ou http://photosdevoyageautourdumonde.fr
Bonjour,
Merci pour ce compte-rendu détaillé, nous avons fait le même circuit avec la même Cie , mais avec une guide super, qui connaissait bien sa leçon !!!
Le son et lumière aux Pyramides est quand même fabuleux !!
Il vaut mieux effectivement faire le voyage au mois de février, mais pas l'été.
@+ Michel T@
http://michel.talon.free.fr/Saint-Maurice_en_Quercy_Lot-/egypte.htm
a+ Michel T@
http://michel.talon.free.fr
Tout à fait d'accord avec toi, il est tres facile d'organiser soit même son voyage
avec internet en plus c'est simple, le voyage organisé c'est bien pour des personnes agées qui préferent être prise en charge.
mais moi perso. j'aime trop la liberté dans tous les sens du terme pour me faire guider
de la sorte avec des journées "marathon" où l'on voit que des touristes !!!!!! 😏
Certes on peut éventuellement organiser soi meme son voyage mais de toutes façons en Égypte c'est comme au Louvre à la tour Eiffel ou à Versailles tu ne vois que des touristes dans tous les cas.
Pour voir les principaux monuments d'Égypte en une semaine sans galérer dans les files d'attente et dans les transports la formule reste attractive et même avec 1 à 2 visites par jour c'est toujours des vacances, en plus la moyenne d'age du groupe tournait autour des 40 balais, ça sentait pas la couche écrasée dans les bus!!!
J'ai organisé mes propres vacances en Grèce et aux Canaries c'est super facile en effet de louer une voiture et de visiter à son rythme, certains pays sont plus faciles que d'autres à appréhender, mais comme disait notre guide égyptien quand tu sais conduire au Caire tu peux conduire dans le monde entier sans problèmes😉.
En Inde c'est pas mal non plus pour conduire !!!!
Bonjour,
On a passé à Noël 12 jours super en Egypte, avec des "gamins" qui ont adoré, et "en solitaire"... votre conclusion est trop drôle, car justement, non seulement on a vu énormément de sites, mais réussi à éviter la foule en général, et pas été du tout harcelés par les Egyptiens qu'on a trouvé cools dans l'ensemble.
Quand je lis votre compte-rendu ça ressemble à un cauchemar en regard de nos souvenirs.
J'ai aussi fait cette croisière au départ de Nantes en Mars 2003, en amoureux, avec un mari qui n'était pas passionné par l'Egypte et ses "vieilles pierres" comme moi...et on en est revenu tous les 2 ravis!!
Guide et accompagnateur super et très interessants dans leurs commentaires, nourriture convenable, sites epoustouflants...L'attente à l'aéroport, le peu de confort dans l'avion, le "harcèlement "des petits vendeurs, les flics à tous les coins de rue...et même dans le désert....bref, tous ses petits désagréments ont été balayés par les splendides paysages et l'ambiance super pendant le voyage!
Nous retournons en Egypte dans 10 jours, mais cette fois-ci au bord de la Mer Rouge, pour faire plaisir à mon mari qui adore le "snorkeling" et les beaux poissons. Nous avons à nouveau choisi Marmara, et c'est donc avec la même compagnie aérienne, Lotus Air, mais la voyagiste à l'Agence où nous avons reservé nous a dit que dans l'avion depuis peu, ils ne proposaient plus de repas gratuit, qu'il fallait soit l'acheter avant, soit dans l'avion pour à peu près 10€. Pouvez-vous me dire, ceux qui y sont allés récemment, si tel était vraiment le cas?
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses et à plus tard pour un résumé et les impressions de ce voyage.
MP
Bonjour a Tous
En ayant lu ce message jai plein d'interrogations car en effet moi j'envisge surement de partir pour la premiere fois seul et en egypte et pkoi pa essayer un combine croisiere histoire de faire 1semaine de visite et 1semaine mer rouge histoire de faire bapteme plingee et visite mont sinai et excursion desert
C'est pourquoi jaimerais savoir si d'autres personnes que moi envisage de partir en septembre en egypte que se soit seul ou a plusieur histoire de former ptit groupe ?
C'est pourquoi jaimerais savori quel sont les meilleure visites a faire pendant la semaine croisiere ?
c'est pourquoi jaimerai avori vos conseil ?
merci a toousssssssssssssssssss
En ayant lu ce message jai plein d'interrogations car en effet moi j'envisge surement de partir pour la premiere fois seul et en egypte et pkoi pa essayer un combine croisiere histoire de faire 1semaine de visite et 1semaine mer rouge histoire de faire bapteme plingee et visite mont sinai et excursion desert
C'est pourquoi jaimerais savoir si d'autres personnes que moi envisage de partir en septembre en egypte que se soit seul ou a plusieur histoire de former ptit groupe ?
C'est pourquoi jaimerais savori quel sont les meilleure visites a faire pendant la semaine croisiere ?
c'est pourquoi jaimerai avori vos conseil ?
merci a toousssssssssssssssssss
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Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!




