pour la troisième fois je songe repartir faire du bénévolat au Cambodge et au Laos ; je suis conteuse et animatrice d'atelier créatifs,
et cette fois, pas envie de me joindre à un vol : du coup je pense à prendre le train jusqu'à Pékin; découvrir la mongolie!, puis je dois traverser la chine jusqu'au nord du Laos!
pour l'aller ou le retour ou les deux!
Quel périple, surtout que je ne connais pas du tout la chine!
Ainsi nombre de question me traverse l'esprit:
tarifs à partir de moscou? avez vous une idée, je ne trouve que des billet à 1700 euros, arghhhh!
est ce que le trajet de pékin jusqu'à la frontière du laos est facile? euh tout est relatif... évidemment! mais je suis curieuse de vos avis et experiences!
merci à vous, je continue mes recherches et attends impatiemment de pouvoir échanger à ce sujet!
Impose ta chance, serre ton bonheur et va vers ton risque.
A te regarder, ils s'habitueront. (rené char)
bonjour a toi
j'entreprend a peu pres le meme voyage que toi fin novembre, tu peux touver des billets de transiberien pour trois fois rien(sur place) les billets de transibberien sont disponible 45 jours a l'avance. moscou pekin c'est 80€ pour irkourst + 50-100 si tu prolonges par la mongolie etou chine.
Pour apres tu pourras trouver un pekin- hanoi pour 18€ (siege dur) c'est 55h de train mais tu ne eux pas enmener de nourriture a bord du train, tu dois lacheter sur place a ce que j'ai entendu dire.
Bon voyage
Ce qui est bien sur vf, c'est son outil de recherche, qui te permet de lire les multiples échanges qui ont déjà eu lieu sur ton sujet, et de revenir ensuite avec des questions précises auxquelles chacun répondra avec plaisir. Dans la seconde barre d'onglets en haut de ton écran, tu cliques sur rechercher, puis tu choisis "Rechercher par mots-clés et autres options dans les messages du forum". En cherchent avec le simple mot "transsibérien", tu obtiens ça: http://voyageforum.com/v.f?do=resultats_recherche&search_string=transsib%E9rien&search_type=AND&search_fields=sb&destination=&search_forum=all&discussion=0&pas_tout_inclus=0&pas_petites_annonces=0&photo=0&search_user_username=&search_time=&sb=post_time
Marseil. 😇
"Rien ne développe l'intelligence comme les voyages."
Emile Zola
Merci pour vos réponses et conseils, c'est une amorce de voyage en soi...
Sur d'autres forum, j'ai entendu dire que parfois les billets de transsiberien étaient tous acheté par des agences! du coup on se retrouve bloqué à moscou ou à pékin! Vous en avez entendu parlé ? Ou est ce une rumeur pour forcer l'achat en France plutôt sur place?
En tout cas les réponse de rodar me rassure niveaux budget! (euh si il reste des billets! hum...)
Quels sont tes plans rodar, tu vas de Pékin à Hanoî? Tu prends le transsiberien de moscou à pékin et après?
Bon un peu de temps pour utiliser le moteur de recherche avant de partir taffer!
merci à tous, à bientôt, Lisa
Impose ta chance, serre ton bonheur et va vers ton risque.
A te regarder, ils s'habitueront. (rené char)
Bonjour,
je pense que les billets devraient rester dispo dans la mesure ou la date de depart n'est pas en pleine saison, apres Hanoy je poursuis par train et bateau en Malaisie, bali toutes les petites iles jusqu'au Timor, un petit trajet (en avion :°Z) jusqu'a darwin et une grande pause en Nouvelle Zélande.Si tout ce passe bien je retourne apres en Australie travailler sur Perth.
Elistoire quand compte tu commencer ton voyage?
Je devrais travailler sure en mai au Cambodge, du coup je partirai en avril, et le retour en juillet, aout...
C'est la pleine saison, ça? Non?
j'aimerai faire un aller retour si c'est possible!
J'ai ensuite vu qu'il ya des bus de Pékin au Laos (sur le moteur de recherches, :)) mais je m'interroge sur les routes, ils disent qu'il doit y'en avoir pour quatre jours...
Fo voir...
Avec un peu de chance l'asso qui m'embauche me paie l'avion, mais avec cet argent je prefere prendre le train, et comme ça il y aura peut etre assez d'argent pour faire le voyage à deux! L'aller retour en avion au cambodge : 1800 euros. Maintenant, est ce qu'ils vont accepter des tickets de trains russes en justificatifs, c'est une autre histoire!
Au laos, j'ai un plan taf, ça fera de l'argent pour continuer de le voyage... et j'ai le sud, le nord et, aller! encore le centre à découvrir!
Quand au budget, tu as prévu combien toi juste pour le transsibérien? Est ce que tu t'arrêtes sur la route Moscou Pékin, ou tu fais tout d'un coup?
Moi j'espère prendre le temps de m'arrêter deux trois fois et particulièrement en Mongolie.
je ne sais pas encore comment ça fonctionne, tu achètes les billets au fur à mesure ou tu dois calculer exactement le nombre de jours que tu t'arrêtes?
En tout cas je suis contente de pouvoir échanger avec quelqu'un qui décide de rejoindre l'asie du sud est par la terre, ça rend le projet plus probable! A bientôt ; ) Lisa
Impose ta chance, serre ton bonheur et va vers ton risque.
A te regarder, ils s'habitueront. (rené char)
les etapes sont bien le probleme, elles sont courtes, le meiux si tu veux visiter c'est de descendre et de prendre la meme ligne un autre jour, il y en un environ tous les jours vers Pekin.
malheuresement pour moi j'ai une contrainte de temps et de climat pour la premiere partie du voyage, la plupart des "pauses"se feront apres le vietnam, j'aurais voulu passer un moment en mongolie aussi, vraiment attirant, alors je reviendrai une autre fois :). quant au budget, en pleine saison ou pres du nouvel an c'est pres de 190€(precisé dans un livre).mais une autre source m'a dit que que pour moscou-irkourstk c'etait 80€ en seconde classe et 200€ en premiere. dans le doute je table sur 200 en seconde. la nourriture est abordable.si tu veux faire escale au lac baikal il ya des logements chez l'habitant pour 3 fois rien.
je serai a Moscou le 24, je te transmettrai des infos precises et confirmées d'ici fevrier, je ne touche pas avant un ordi avant ca :)
pas d inquietudes a avoir pour les billets au pire vous attendrez quelques jours a moscou mais il y a beaucoup de choses a faire. les prix ne devraient pas avoir bouge beaucoup depuis 2006 ils etiaent de 60 euros moscou-irkoutsk en 3eme (la seule et unique a prendre) et 60 euros pour irkoutsk-UB en 2nde.
j ai laisse pas mal de message sur le sujet allez faire un tour sur le moteur de recherche.
Ce que les agences achètent à l'avance je crois, ce sont les première classe, avec restauration et grand confort. Les billets bon marché ne t'offrent pas le même confort et sont sans doute achetés d'avance par des locaux. Je ne l'ai pas encore fait, mais je compte le faire dans l'autre sens l'été prochain en achetant mon billet en Chine.
On m'a dit qu'il valait mieux être dans un train chinois que dans un train russe. A voir..
Pour le Pékin Hanoi, il faut prendre des couchettes, même dures (nos couchettes dures de seconde SNCF). C'est vivable et pas hors de prix.
Pour la restauration, pas de problème pour acheter à bord ou sur les quais des gares quelle que soit l'heure de passage. Tu peux toujours prendre quelques bols de nouilles déshydratée pour les encas. Il y a de l'eau chaude disponible gratuite au robinet.
Voyager en train en Chine c'est super sympa. Le passage de la frontière sino vietnamienne n'était pas marrant. Mais je l'ai fait de nuit pour rentrer en Chine.
Bon voyage !
Rien n'est jamais acquis a l'homme, ni sa force ni sa faiblesse, ni son coeur>> (Aragon)
Les agences occidentales achètent les billets 1ère et seconde place en haute saison - juillet/août, un peu septembre. Là en effet c'est très difficile de se procurer un billet sur place. J'ai fait Vladivostok->Moscou avec des étapes fin septembre. J'ai eu facilement mes places, mais les compartiments de seconde classe étaient bien pleins.
Coucou,
Avec mon mari nous avons fait lille-bangkok via le transibérien en janvier dernier (pologne lettonie russie mongolie chine vietnam cambodge laos thailande) si tu as des questions n'hésite pas. Tout est plus facile qu'on ne l'imagine une fois sur place. Y'a juste pour les billets du transibériens ( 150€ moscou pekin avec 4 escales, en 2e, mieux car plus convivial et favorise les rencontres, echanges) on a un peu galéré car souvent complet (et pourtant en janvier, aidés par un ami russe!)
Hésite pas a te faire aider par un russe, prend un contact a l'avance (pourquoi pas couchsurfing) pour t'aider au guichet!
Mais le faire sans s'arrêter serait un sacrilège, la Russie etant un pays fabuleux.
N'hésites pas si tu as des questions,
Nancy
Moi aussi je veux partir de ou arriver à Lille. J'ai l'impression que Lille-Moscou est très compliqué, plus que Moscou-Pékin. Je me trompe ?
Comment avez vous fait le premier tronçon en Europe ?
Rien n'est jamais acquis a l'homme, ni sa force ni sa faiblesse, ni son coeur>> (Aragon)
Une très bonne solution est le billet citystar, vendu par les chemins de fer slovaques et que propose un autrichien sur l'internet. Tous les détails à http://citystarticket.blogspot.com/
Marseil. 😎
"Rien ne développe l'intelligence comme les voyages."
Emile Zola
Quelques renseignements pratiques sur le troncçon Moscou Oulan Bator et la Mongolie sur mon site (notamment la page "pratique").
J'avais initialement envisagé de rallier Moscou à Bangkok et à part l'obtention du visa chinois l'ensemble du voyage ne semblait pas poser de problème spécifique.
A ta disposition si tu as des questions supplémentaires.
I’m planning a trip around Italy using only trains or public transport in October (hoping the weather stays nice!).
I’d obviously like to see some tourist destinations, but I also want to get off the beaten path a bit, and I’m hoping to find some help here? I don’t plan to linger too long in the cities.
Starting in the north, I’d like to visit Lake Como or Lake Orta, pass through the Cinque Terre for some hiking, spend a few days in Naples and Rome, then head down to Sicily.
Hi there,
I’ll be traveling to Japan this coming August. We’ve finalized our itinerary and booked our flight tickets. Now I’m at the stage of buying train tickets for the few segments we’ll need to cover:
Tokyo - Hakone
Hakone - Kyoto
Kyoto - Osaka
Osaka - Tokyo
Here are my questions:
a) Is it possible to buy train tickets for these segments from Canada?
b) If so, which website should I use to do this?
c) And if it is possible, will we be able to print our tickets from Canada?
d) If it’s not possible, where in Tokyo should I go to buy these tickets when I arrive?
Hi everyone, I wanted to take the Paris-Berlin overnight train with a sleeper berth, the new service operated by European Sleepers.
24/05/2026 17:45 Paris-Nord (actually 16:00 from Paris Bercy Seine) -> 25/05/2026 9:59 (actually 7:30 in Berlin)
05/06/2026 18:31 Berlin (actually 20:00) -> 06/06/2026 10:00 Paris Nord (actually 12:30)
Part of the journey was operated by bus instead of the promised overnight train.
For 2 people: 340 € round trip
A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord.
2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord.
3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus.
4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones.
5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey.
6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee).
7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced.
8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day.
9) The overnight train arrived at Berlin station with a 30-minute delay on top of its initial delay (scheduled for 6:31 PM, then 7:30 PM, finally arriving at 8:00 PM). The heating was blasting in the compartment with no way to turn it off. No functional toilets in the carriage. From that point on, customer service stopped responding to my messages.
10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège.
11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM.
12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus.
13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time.
14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
I have little hope of getting even a partial refund. Customer service emails acknowledge the discomfort but only offer to reimburse the cost of a coffee on board if we send them the receipt... a bit weak.
I’m sharing this experience in the hope it might help others.
Hi there,
I’d like to take the Train of the Clouds from Lima to Huancayo.
I’ve heard it only runs during certain periods.
Does anyone have info on this?
Thanks!
HuancayoHuancayo
As part of my professional thesis, I’m conducting a study on the evolution of long-distance rail transport in France, particularly since it opened up to competition.
I’ve put together a very quick (about 5-minute) and completely anonymous questionnaire. Your answers will help me better understand users' expectations regarding pricing, frequency, and environmental impact.
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Uzbekistan in March—classic independent itinerary: Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khiva. We’d like to take the train between each city, but I don’t want to lock down the whole trip before we leave.
So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Hello,
We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for:
- A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan
- A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance!
Marie
Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
I’m reaching out on this forum to ask for route ideas—this time north of Tokyo, but without heading to the Sapporo island (I’m saving that for a future trip).
I’d love to take advantage of the cherry blossom season and its festivities.
I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
I wanted to know if it’s possible to go from Tashkent to Almaty by train without passing through Kyrgyzstan. I’ve heard the border is often closed 😕 between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.
Thanks in advance!
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
I'd like to go to Montserrat on my own from Barcelona. Share your suggestions with me.
Which train should I take, where to get off, what to see once I arrive, etc.
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January.
I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck.
I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue?
Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted.
Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used?
Thanks in advance!
Charlie
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region.
After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani?
Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient).
But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this?
We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help,
and have a great Sunday!
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us.
I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com.
Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend?
Are the tickets changeable?
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas).
This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima.
I’m looking for suggestions and advice:
Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips...
Do you think it’s possible to do something like this:
5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku)
3 nights in Kyoto
2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo?
2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy...
Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train.
Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question:
Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.