Sac de couchage chaud ou association de plusieurs légers?
by Roulelemonde
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Toujours en prépa d'un périple à vélo à durée indéterminée, j'en suis au choix du sac de couchage; Suite à une virée à l'arrache cet été en partie en stop et très peu équipé (toile de tente exterieure et sac de couchage quechua S15 (degrés), le froid m'a donné quelques nuits blanches; Or, en plus de ce sac, j'ai aussi un drap de sac (coton) mc kinley et un sursac quechua adapté à des températures de + 3° C environ;
Deux éléments que je n'avais pas emmené
Mon interrogation est de savoir si la combinaison de ces trois équipements, suivant les températures, pourrait suffire pour 2, 3 voire 4 saisons, y compris pour des temperatures en dessous de 0° ? et donc économiser sur un sac de couchage, d'autant je n'ai toujours pas trouvé le sac couchage idéal, ni trop lourd, ni trop cher, ni trop "léger" pour le froid; Le sursac comme le drap de sac permet aussi un meilleur isolement du froid, par contre
l'effet de condensation du sursac est peut-être problématique
S'il y a des avis, merci d'avance !
Va toujours par le chemin le plus court, et le plus court est le chemin tracé par la nature
A mon avis tu dois bien gagner 2 bons degré! 😏
Nan sérieusement, oublie. Le seul drap qui peut te faire gagner 3 ou 4° c'est le thermolite (la pub mensongère annonce +11° et c'est vraiment cher >50€). Le drap de coton c'est lourd et ça te fais gagner (au mieux) un degré, le sursac peut être aussi...
Pour le sol, il te faut déjà matelas avec une bonne R-value pour du 4 saisons, sinon toute la chaleur se fera la malle par le dos. C'est moins problématique en 3 saisons.
Plutôt que d'emmener un drap en coton, emmène des sous vêtements chaud, ça sera aussi lourd mais plus utile (et plus chaud!). Le sursac te donnera une protection si tu souhaite dormir à la belle étoile, mais rien de plus.
Malheureusement le duvet reste un des éléments les plus cher du matos et c'est pas près de changer...
Je te conseille d'aller faire un petit tour sur randonner-leger.org. Tu y trouveras une tonne d'informations (dans le wiki en 1er, le forum ensuite) sur ce sujet largement abordé. 🙂
Salut Titeariane,
J'ai passé l'aprem à écumer les sites style randonner-leger, journaldutrek and co !
Je sais que ma solution est space, bref y a mieux; En regardant les sujets proches, une des discussions de Vfpromeneur parle de combiner deux sacs de couchage de legereté et capacité au froid à peu près équivalentes (exemple : quechua S15 et S10);
Ce qui permettrait plus de souplesse d'usage suivant les températures, et vu que j'ai déjà un S15, je me demande si prendre le même ou proche serait ou pas une bonne idée, y compris pour automne, hiver, montagne etc
Va toujours par le chemin le plus court, et le plus court est le chemin tracé par la nature
Alors si tu as bien regardé je ne vois comment tu peux envisager sereinement dans la même phrase "S10 + S15 + Montagne" 😮.
Déjà as tu un budget précis? (faut peut être commencer par là).
Ensuite, le problème de l'empilement des duvets:
- le poids, le volume: ça va être lourd et énorme. Je sais pas comment tu comptes porter tes affaires, mais j'espère que tu as des bons mollets et une grosse remorque
- le vrai problème: si tu as bien lu, tu as compris que c'est l'air chaud "coincé" entre les plumes de duvets (ou des fibres synthétiques) qui fait l'isolation. Si tu empiles 2 duvets, tu va tout compresser et expulser l'air qui sert d'isolant thermique => ton S10 + S15 va finir en S20 (pour imager). Peut être qui si tu prends ton 1er duvet en taille L et le 2ème en XL, ça sera mieux. Ou alors le 2ème duvet étalé en couette sur le 1er.
Mais bon, on navigue toujours à une t° confort autour de 10°! Avec des bons sous-vêtements, tu dois pouvoir descendre à 5° peut être (en ayant bien mangé le soir). Et ça va te coûter 5kg et 20L 🏴☠️.
A mon avis, ça vaut le coup d'investir un minimum dans un sac de couchage en duvet (même un peu lourd) mais qui aura un rapport t°/poids/volume plus intéressant. Mon dernier argument: si c'était une idée qui marchait à merveille, ça se saurait! 😉
Ti'Pol
A mon avis, ça vaut le coup d'investir un minimum dans un sac de couchage en duvet (même un peu lourd) mais qui aura un rapport t°/poids/volume plus intéressant. Mon dernier argument: si c'était une idée qui marchait à merveille, ça se saurait! 😉
Ti'Pol
Ti pol ou Tit ariane ? on les reconnait plus 😄
Tu as surement raison, j'ai jusque là utilisé seulement le S15 en été; Par contre je préfère voyager assez léger, mais comme beaucoup je n'aime pas prendre d'équipements trop chers; Je vais surement rester concentré sur la recherche d'un sac optimal, assez léger, chaud, pas trop cher; Si tu as des bons plans ou idées, je suis preneur ! J'ai noté quelques sacs qui ont l'air de compromis pas trop mals, comme le Deuter trek lite 300 (en fait un des seuls !)
Va toujours par le chemin le plus court, et le plus court est le chemin tracé par la nature
J'avoue que je squatte honteusement le pseudo de ma femme (qui ne poste jamais), j'ai eu la flemme de faire le mien 😊.
Si tu veux chaud et léger, prend du duvet en plume (sauf si tu penses que l'humidité est un réel problème ou tu iras).
Pour les bons plans: les marques comme yeti (polonaise, ne pas confondre avec l'anglaise), cumulus (et j'en oublie encore une) sont les meilleures rapport qualité/prix. en revanche pour que ce soit rentable (pas distribuées en France), il faut mettre un petit prix quand même, pas loin de 200€ (les frais de port ne sont pas donnés). Moins cher: les promos en tout genre en France Encore moins cher: en occasion. C'est un peu space je te l'accorde, mais j'ai acheté mon 1er duvet comme ça: un warm'n light 600 de lafuma vendu 85€ touché à 25 (fdp inclus). t° confort 10°, 600g. J'ai récidivé avec un duvet yeti que j'ai touché à 150€ au lieu d'un peu plus de 200, il avait servi 5 nuits. t° confort -5°, 1kg. Il y a des bonnes affaires, mais il faut scruter 🙂.
Pour le modèle que tu donnes: à jeter aux orties. Cher, et 300g de plumes dans un sac de 1kg? Il est lesté au plomb? A ce prix, autant acheter en Pologne! En plus avec 300g, tu vas te cailler sévère... Pour le même prix ou moins cher, vise au moins 500g de plumes... Plus le cuin (filling power) sera élevé et mieux ce sera. A partir de 700 c'est pas mal.
Si tu veux chaud et léger, prend du duvet en plume (sauf si tu penses que l'humidité est un réel problème ou tu iras).
Pour les bons plans: les marques comme yeti (polonaise, ne pas confondre avec l'anglaise), cumulus (et j'en oublie encore une) sont les meilleures rapport qualité/prix. en revanche pour que ce soit rentable (pas distribuées en France), il faut mettre un petit prix quand même, pas loin de 200€ (les frais de port ne sont pas donnés). Moins cher: les promos en tout genre en France Encore moins cher: en occasion. C'est un peu space je te l'accorde, mais j'ai acheté mon 1er duvet comme ça: un warm'n light 600 de lafuma vendu 85€ touché à 25 (fdp inclus). t° confort 10°, 600g. J'ai récidivé avec un duvet yeti que j'ai touché à 150€ au lieu d'un peu plus de 200, il avait servi 5 nuits. t° confort -5°, 1kg. Il y a des bonnes affaires, mais il faut scruter 🙂.
Pour le modèle que tu donnes: à jeter aux orties. Cher, et 300g de plumes dans un sac de 1kg? Il est lesté au plomb? A ce prix, autant acheter en Pologne! En plus avec 300g, tu vas te cailler sévère... Pour le même prix ou moins cher, vise au moins 500g de plumes... Plus le cuin (filling power) sera élevé et mieux ce sera. A partir de 700 c'est pas mal.
Merci pour tes infos et avis,
Philosophiquement et stratégiquement, je ne peux et ne veux pas pas mettre plus de 200 euros dans un duvet ou sac couchage, étant donné qu'au delà, les prix rejoignent quasiment celui de mon vélo 😉; Donc je vais essayer de trouver un duvet chaud et léger plutot autour des 100 euros maxi, quitte à devoir allumer un feu de camps ! ou à rester sur mon option de combiner deux sacs plus légers et pas très chers
Va toujours par le chemin le plus court, et le plus court est le chemin tracé par la nature
Bonjour
Nous avons voyagé 13 mois avec des sacs de couchage recommandé par d'autres. Ils sont annoncés 3 saisons mais nous avons eu jusqu'à -7 ° dans la tente, à plusieurs reprises en Mongolie et des températures froides sur l'altiplano et n'avons jamais eu froid. Ce sont les duvets Millet Camp Regular, ils sont en duvet et nous les avions payés 135 euros (avril 2011). La température de confort est donnée entre -3 et 2 °, mais en les combinant avec un thermolite c'était vraiment suffisant même pour moi plutôt frileuse. Les enfants avaient les mêmes et pas eu froid non plus. Il était inenvisageable pour nous de mettre 300 ou 500 euros juste pour les duvets vu qu'il nous en fallait 6 ! Après plus de 150 nuits dedans dans toutes sortes de conditions, je les recommande. Ils sont par contre trop chaud à 15 ou 20° mais nous dormions alors dans le seul thermolite. il me paraît indispensable pour un voyage au long cours de prendre un sac en soie ou autre pour protéger le duvet, augmenter la polyvalence et pouvoir laver facilement. Nous avions aussi de bons matelas (therm'a-rest) qui sont importants pour l'isolation comme dit précédemment.
Nous avons voyagé 13 mois avec des sacs de couchage recommandé par d'autres. Ils sont annoncés 3 saisons mais nous avons eu jusqu'à -7 ° dans la tente, à plusieurs reprises en Mongolie et des températures froides sur l'altiplano et n'avons jamais eu froid. Ce sont les duvets Millet Camp Regular, ils sont en duvet et nous les avions payés 135 euros (avril 2011). La température de confort est donnée entre -3 et 2 °, mais en les combinant avec un thermolite c'était vraiment suffisant même pour moi plutôt frileuse. Les enfants avaient les mêmes et pas eu froid non plus. Il était inenvisageable pour nous de mettre 300 ou 500 euros juste pour les duvets vu qu'il nous en fallait 6 ! Après plus de 150 nuits dedans dans toutes sortes de conditions, je les recommande. Ils sont par contre trop chaud à 15 ou 20° mais nous dormions alors dans le seul thermolite. il me paraît indispensable pour un voyage au long cours de prendre un sac en soie ou autre pour protéger le duvet, augmenter la polyvalence et pouvoir laver facilement. Nous avions aussi de bons matelas (therm'a-rest) qui sont importants pour l'isolation comme dit précédemment.
Merci pour l'info ! il a pas l'air mal en effet, c'est autour de la limite poids/prix maxi que je m'etais fixé
J'y réflechi encore, et je vais voir; J'ai un drap de sac coton acheté chez intersport il y a longtemps, j'espère que ça peut suffire pour le combiner avec, sinon je vais encore devoir donner des euros, avant de quitter l'euro
Va toujours par le chemin le plus court, et le plus court est le chemin tracé par la nature
Ah oui, j'oubliais un petit conseil encore, en plus c'est le meilleur: 😉
Je ne sais pas quand tu pars, mais le mieux à faire c'est de tester, idéalement dans des conditions similaires à ce que tu vas rencontrer.
Tu compte dormir par 0°? Et ben la prochaine fois qu'il fait 0° la nuit, tu dors sur ton balcon, dans ton jardin ou dans la forêt près de chez toi. Tu emmènes ton matos, et tu vois par toi même en faisant tes petites expériences 🙂.
Par rapport à ton test, tu enlèves ensuite 1 ou 2° parce qu'en réalité quand tu es fatigué le froid ressenti est plus grand, mais ça te donnera déjà une super bonne indication.
Ti'Pol
PS: le duvet donné en référence plus haut est déjà mieux pour affronter du 3 saisons ou un petit 4 saisons avec sous vêtement + thermolite.
Ti'Pol
PS: le duvet donné en référence plus haut est déjà mieux pour affronter du 3 saisons ou un petit 4 saisons avec sous vêtement + thermolite.
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I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hello there, pedal-powered Young Boys!
Claudio (still from Faverges)
dreaming about a cycling getaway in Italy from Faverges (train all the way to Turin)
from Turin down to Venice along the Po River and back via the Padana (Alta Italia da attraversare – Northern Italy to cross)
The tricky part is getting from Chioggia to Venice.
I read it’s possible by hopping on a boat from island to island,
but it sounds a bit stressful.
Has anyone already tackled this route?
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio

Hi there,
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!