Merci d'avance!
Safari en Tanzanie & Zanzibar
by Dropak
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjours,
Nous sommes un groupe d'amis (4 couples, autour de la 30aine) a vouloir partir en Octobre/Novembre 2012 faire un Safari d'env 7-10j dans les parcs du nord de la Tanzanie + sejour 5-7j a Zanzibar. Nous aimerions avoir des conseils principalement sur la partie Safari:
- Pour le logement nous hesitons entre "tented camp" et camping bivouac. Y-a-il une grande difference de prix par rapport au gain en comfort? des conseils au niveau du logement?
- Est-il vraiment difficile et peut etre risquer d'organiser tout sur place en arrivant en tanzanie. La difference de prix avec un TO/agence est-elle justifiee?
- Quels sont les parcs du nord a absolument pas manquer, ainsi que la duree a prevoir dans chaque parc pour un safari de 7-9j. Mieux vaut-il enchainer un maximum de parcs/sites dans la semaine, ou faire une croix sur certains et s'atarder plus longtemps sur d'autres? Dans ce cas la, lesquels selectionners et pour quelle duree? Les TO/agences semblent preferer nous faire enchainer un grand nombre de parcs avec une duree relativement courte dans chaque...
- Les activites telles que trekking/canoe sont-elles envisageable et interressantes? Quelles que suggestions d'activites? Doit-on generalement les prevoir en avance avec le TO ou voir ca sur place, le jour meme en fonction des envies et possibilites?
- Quel est, selon vous, un prix correct pour 9jours Safari dans les parc du nord en "tented camp", et le meme safari en camping bivouac?
- Des suggestions d'agences/TO avec un bon rapport qualites/prix?
- Est-il difficile de trouver des guides francophones sur place a "l'entree" des parcs par exemple, ou dans les camping, hotels?
- Pour Zanzibar nous comptons nous debrouiller sans TO/agence. Une idee du prix moyen d'un billet d'avion Kili AP/ Zanzibar?
- Autres sugestions, conseils, chose a ne pas manquer ou a eviter pour le safari ou zanzibar?
Merci d'avance!
Merci d'avance!
Paco
bonsoir ;DROPAK
tout d'abord parcours attentivement le site de Blesl (bernard ) un emminent membre qui fait reférence sur cette destination et le carnet de "francky4 en solo en 2010
+ de nombreux avis de "puma" .
Il n'est pas envisageable de faire du trek et/ou du canoé ( hormis l'ascension du Kilimandjaro ou du Mt Méru par ex)
Trouver une agence sur palce tu risuqe d'y perdre 1 ou 2 jours .
Trouver des guides francophones à l'entrée des parcs est illusoire .
S'organiser en arrivant en Afrique laisse une bonne part d'aléas et méme si ......avec 12 à 14 jrs ça fera court .
Nous sommes partis en fin janv avec "serengeti big cats safaris " basée à Arusha cette agence locale dirigé par Cécile une française et son mari Tanzanien
Tout était en rapport avec ses différents devis et aucune mauvaise surprise ds le deroulement de notre sejour . Bon rapport qualité prix sur 6 devis faits avant de prendre une decision d'achat .
Programme :(hors journées de vols internationnaux) 9jrs en safari (tarangire ;lac easy;nogorongoro ; sergenti et au retour parc manyara + 4 jours sur Zanzibar ou nous avions choisi qu'elle nous reserve les hotels et les transferts
Pour moi les "tented camp" sont un trés bon compromis tant du point de vue confort que cadre ; car les "camping sites" sont plus rustiques ;(mais chacun ses critéres ..de confort ; xar à 50 piges un plus diffciles qu'à 30 ou on couchait ds le desert ou en foret sous tente )
Question billets lignes intérieures sur "précison air" de nairobi/arusha; arusha/zanzibar pour environ 275 euros par "Go voyages" ; ce choix car on arrivait à Nairobi via Doha par Qatar airways et ce transporteur assure un retour au départ de Dar es Salam via Doha le vol Zanzaibar /Dar es salam etant inclus ds le prix des vols internationnaux
Enfin "Puma " conseille souvent de faire peu mais de faire intense et bien ;il a raison car sur 9 jrs ;envisager d'aller au coeur du serengeti sera du "survol" si tu choisis deja tarangire ;ngorongoro et manyara ; envisages donc seulement de stoper 3 jrs ds la zone de Ndutu qui est sublime ou plus de 2 jrs au Tarangire
Autre tuyau ; si les moyens de chacun le permettent pour les véhicules éviter d'étre plus de 5 personnes par 4x4 (toyota land cruiser chassis long ) .Nous étions 2 ds ce genree de vehicule version chassis court et c'etait ainsi trés confortable .
Pour Zanzibar la cote Est et Sud Est trés calme et agréable et se perdre ds le dédale de ruelles de Stone Town furent un immense plaisir .
A bientot raconte nous au retour !!
Bons choix et surtout "safari nejma"
Ce pays est envoutant
jp
"on ne choisit pas les trottoirs de manille ;de paris ou d'alger pour apprendre à marcher" (maxime le forestier)
Merci JP,
Nous avons demander un devis a cecile ainsi qu'a d'autres TO (big cat safari, cortosafari, tanzanie-voyage, nature explore, hotsun safari, bel africa & great zone). Les prix peuvent varier du simple au triple! soit de 800 a 2500 euros par personne pour 9jours de safari en camping bivouac. On a du mal a savoir si l'ecart de prix est vraiment justifie car d'apres notres "analyse rapide", globalement les prestations semblent identiques. Vrai?
Voici, pour le moment notre programme:
Arrive Kili AP (Nuit a Arusha) J1- Arusha -->Tarangire J2- Tarangire J3- Tarangire --> Lac manyara J4- Lac Manyara -->Lac Eyasi J5- Lac Eyasi --> Ngorongoro J6- Ngorongoro --> Serengeti J7- Serengeti J8- Serengeti -->Lac Natron J9- Lac Natron --> Retour vers Kili AP et depart pour Zanzibar
Qu'en pensez-vous? Y aurait-il des endroits a supprimmer en faveur d'autres auxquelles nous n'aurions pas pense? Nous hesitons encore a retirer le Lac natron qui, d'apres ce que nous avons compris, nous ferait "perdre" beaucoup de temps sur la route. Conseilleriez-vous de remplacer les 2 jours du lac natron par un jour additionel au Serengeti ou ailleurs? Pour la partie J3 a J5, une journee Lac manyara, une journee lac Eyasi et une journee Ngorongoro, est-ce sufisant pour chaque parc en comptant le trajet le matin au depart du site precedent? Autres conseils?
Encore merci pour les infos!
Nous avons demander un devis a cecile ainsi qu'a d'autres TO (big cat safari, cortosafari, tanzanie-voyage, nature explore, hotsun safari, bel africa & great zone). Les prix peuvent varier du simple au triple! soit de 800 a 2500 euros par personne pour 9jours de safari en camping bivouac. On a du mal a savoir si l'ecart de prix est vraiment justifie car d'apres notres "analyse rapide", globalement les prestations semblent identiques. Vrai?
Voici, pour le moment notre programme:
Arrive Kili AP (Nuit a Arusha) J1- Arusha -->Tarangire J2- Tarangire J3- Tarangire --> Lac manyara J4- Lac Manyara -->Lac Eyasi J5- Lac Eyasi --> Ngorongoro J6- Ngorongoro --> Serengeti J7- Serengeti J8- Serengeti -->Lac Natron J9- Lac Natron --> Retour vers Kili AP et depart pour Zanzibar
Qu'en pensez-vous? Y aurait-il des endroits a supprimmer en faveur d'autres auxquelles nous n'aurions pas pense? Nous hesitons encore a retirer le Lac natron qui, d'apres ce que nous avons compris, nous ferait "perdre" beaucoup de temps sur la route. Conseilleriez-vous de remplacer les 2 jours du lac natron par un jour additionel au Serengeti ou ailleurs? Pour la partie J3 a J5, une journee Lac manyara, une journee lac Eyasi et une journee Ngorongoro, est-ce sufisant pour chaque parc en comptant le trajet le matin au depart du site precedent? Autres conseils?
Encore merci pour les infos!
Paco
Essaie de rajouter un jour au Ngorongoro ! 🙂
Je pèse lourd ... Je pèse lourd et pourtant, parfois, je vole ...
salut ;
merci de ton retour
vu que tu seras au Serengeti rajoute une journée au serengeti car quelque soit la période et l'endroit il y a toujours qq chose de différent
et nous avons étés envouté par ce parc ;mais notre passge y fut trop court
Je regrettais de quitter le "Katikati tented camp" le dernier jour j'y aurais bien passé 2 nuits de plus .......en sachant maintenant ce qu'on a vu rien que durant la 1ére journée .
La region de Ndutu nous a beaucoup plus aussi .
Revois comme tu l'entends ton parcours mais n'oublie pas que ton programme est presque identique au notre
tu feras pour certaines étapes ( Manyara;lac Eyasi Ngorongoropar ex ... ) presque un passage eclair ds certaines zones car les temps de route et les distances sont longues
a plus et
bons choix , " safari njema "
jp
"on ne choisit pas les trottoirs de manille ;de paris ou d'alger pour apprendre à marcher" (maxime le forestier)
Nous partons avec Bel Africa qui offrait meilleur qualité-prix pour la fin octobre. Nous avons bien hâte. Nous avons fait nos arrangements avec Laurence. Elle est super.
Louise
Bonjour,
Le parc d'Arusha n'offre peut être pas une faune exceptionnelle mais par contre tu peux y faire du canoé sur le lac de Momella. Possibilité également de faire quelques heures de rando côté Mt Meru (ou l'ascension bien sûr sur 3 ou 4 jours), accompagné obligatoirement par un ranger. 800 $ pour un safari de 9 jours, vérifie bien ce qui est inclus dans le tarif, notamment les entrées de parcs. On considère plutôt un budget de l'ordre de 150$ par personne par jour en campsite. Pour ce qui est du choix des parcs, tout dépend ce que vous recherchez. Si votre attente est de voir un maximum d'animaux, alors attardez vous dans le Serengeti et ne négligez pas Tarangire (y aller très tôt le matin, les silhouettes des baobabs et des acacias sur fond de soleil levant, les troupeaux d'éléphants au bord de la rivière, c'est magique). Sachez que la région du lac Eyasi est plutôt propice à aller à la rencontre de tribus comme les Datoga et les Hadzabe (possibilité d'accompagner les Hadzabe pour une partie de chasse à l'arc matinale). Le lac Natron est quant à lui très intéressant pour observer les oiseaux et particulièrement les flamants roses. Ces 2 lacs ne sont pas situés à l'intérieur des parcs. Mais pour ceux qui souhaitent faire une "pause" au cours de leur safari (le 4x4 n'est pas toujours de tout repos !), ces endroits sont très agréables. Bonne préparation
Le parc d'Arusha n'offre peut être pas une faune exceptionnelle mais par contre tu peux y faire du canoé sur le lac de Momella. Possibilité également de faire quelques heures de rando côté Mt Meru (ou l'ascension bien sûr sur 3 ou 4 jours), accompagné obligatoirement par un ranger. 800 $ pour un safari de 9 jours, vérifie bien ce qui est inclus dans le tarif, notamment les entrées de parcs. On considère plutôt un budget de l'ordre de 150$ par personne par jour en campsite. Pour ce qui est du choix des parcs, tout dépend ce que vous recherchez. Si votre attente est de voir un maximum d'animaux, alors attardez vous dans le Serengeti et ne négligez pas Tarangire (y aller très tôt le matin, les silhouettes des baobabs et des acacias sur fond de soleil levant, les troupeaux d'éléphants au bord de la rivière, c'est magique). Sachez que la région du lac Eyasi est plutôt propice à aller à la rencontre de tribus comme les Datoga et les Hadzabe (possibilité d'accompagner les Hadzabe pour une partie de chasse à l'arc matinale). Le lac Natron est quant à lui très intéressant pour observer les oiseaux et particulièrement les flamants roses. Ces 2 lacs ne sont pas situés à l'intérieur des parcs. Mais pour ceux qui souhaitent faire une "pause" au cours de leur safari (le 4x4 n'est pas toujours de tout repos !), ces endroits sont très agréables. Bonne préparation
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je cherche une excursion, visites, safari en Tanzanie
du 20.12 au 10.01
Nous partons avec Bel Africa qui offrait meilleur qualité-prix pour la fin octobre. Nous avons bien hâte. Nous avons fait nos arrangements avec Laurence. Elle est super.
Bonjour
Nous partons début mars en Tanzanie et Zanzibar avec Bel Africa , j'aurais donc souhaité avoir votre retour d'expérience et vos impressions sur le déroulement de votre voyage et votre avis sur ce TO . Merci bcp Cdt
Bonjour
Nous partons début mars en Tanzanie et Zanzibar avec Bel Africa , j'aurais donc souhaité avoir votre retour d'expérience et vos impressions sur le déroulement de votre voyage et votre avis sur ce TO . Merci bcp Cdt
Bonjour Nathalie,
Voici mes impressions que j'ai envoyées sur le site en décembre. Est-ce que tu peux me dire quel est ton programme - les endroits où tu vasexactement ? - -- Voici quelques anecdotes et commentaires de mon voyage en Afrique. Le voyage a été fantastique. C'est une expérience unique que mon mari et moi avons pu vivre en Tanzanie pour avoir vu en safari tous les animaux sauvages dans leur habitat naturel, sur l'Ile de Zanzibar pour avoir pu marcher jusqu'au récif de corail et voir toutes les richesses et la beauté de la mer de cristal, et au Rwanda avec nos amis qui y vivent depuis 7 ans et qui nous ont fait visiter ce pays magnifique du nord au sud et d'est en ouest en passant par toutes les émotions lorsque nous avons visité les villages éloignés et avons constaté qu’il y a bien de la pauvreté malgré la beauté de ce pays.
Aussi incroyable que cela puisse paraître, ces 5 semaines ont défilé à une telle vitesse que nous n'avons pas vu le temps passé.
Les safaris en Tanzanie sont au-delà de tout ce qu'on peut lire et voir en photos dans les magazines. Comme on dit, il faut le voir pour le croire. Nous avons dormi dans une tente en plein cœur du Serengeti avec les animaux sauvages autour de nous. Un éléphant est venu nous rendre visite durant la nuit pour manger l'herbe verte autour de notre tente ... et cet exercice a duré plus d'une heure et demie. Il a même frappé sur mon lit qui a déplacé d'au moins 8 pouces... On l'entendait mâcher et respirer et on n'osait pas bouger de peur de l'effrayer et qu'il s'accroche dans les cordes et arrache tout en se sauvant. On a donc attendu qu'il finisse et qu'il quitte notre environnement. J'avoue que j'ai eu un peu peur.
Le lendemain matin, en quittant le camp, nous avons vu une maman girafe avec son bébé, on a fait la course aux lionnes qui se sont arrêtées pour se rafraîchir à l'ombre des arbres ce qui m’a permis de les prendre en photos. Au détour d’un lac, l’adrénaline est montée au maximum lorsqu’on a assisté à une bataille entre deux hippopotames pour que le plus fort garde son plan d'eau avec son harem .... Impressionnant.
Sur l'Ile de Zanzibar, la température de l'eau est au dessus de 25 degrés en tout temps. L'eau est claire comme du cristal et les plages de sable blanc sont à perte de vue. À la marée basse, nous avons pu marcher jusqu’au récif de corail et admirer les étoiles de mer ainsi que les oursins.
Le Rwanda est un pays qui se reconstruit après le génocide. Au contraire de ce que je croyais, c'est magnifique. C'est le pays des milles collines. Il n'y a pas une parcelle de terre, autant sur le plat que dans les collines qui ne soit pas cultivée et tout cela manuellement par les pauvres gens qui vivent de leur culture. Des cultures de café, de thé, de bananes, d'ananas, de patates, légumes et fruits de toutes sortes. Il y a des fleurs et des oiseaux en abondance qui partagent tout ce territoire. Il y a aussi les pêcheurs, au nord-ouest du pays sur le Lac Kivu qui fait toute la longueur des pays du Rwanda et du Congo, que nous avons vus partir le soir et revenir au matin en chantant avec les barques pleines de poissons. Tous ces pauvres gens, du plus petit au plus grand, qui marchent tous les jours sur le bord des routes pour aller chercher et transporter l’eau potable, le bois et les vivres pour la journée.
Tant de beaux souvenirs et trop à raconter ! Ils disent que les voyages forment la jeunesse … je crois que oui et j’ai déjà hâte de repartir vers une nouvelle destination.
En Tanzanie, nous avons fait notre voyage avec l'agence Maasaï Wanderings (guide Boris) mais par l'entremise de Bel Africa. Tout s'est très bien passé. Quelques déceptions sur les lunchs box durant les safaris et sur le lodge à Arusha. Dans les véhicules des safaris, il fait terriblement chaud encore plus si vous êtes plusieurs dans le véhicule et l'eau que l'on vous fournit, est à la même température. Mais quelle expérience fantastique. J'y retournerais sans hésiter. Notre guide Boris Mugisha était vraiment super. Il est à son compte, vous pouvez le demander par l'Agence de votre choix et il peut vous accompagner. Sur l'Île de Zanzibar, nous étions au Dream of Zanzibar mais les repas n'étaient pas à la hauteur de cet hôtel. La plage est magnifique mais il y a des vendeurs qui ne nous lâchent pas de la journée - c'est un peu achalant. On peut aller marcher jusqu'à la barrière de corail mais n'oublier pas de vous apporter des souliers d'eau pour vous rendre.
Le voyage au Rwanda a été organisé personnellement et ce sont nos amis qui nous ont fait visiter ce merveilleux pays. - -- Avec le Tour BelAfrica, tout a bien été. Seulement les lunchs box qui n'étaient pas terribles et le lodge à Arusha. Notre guide, Boris était super. Il connaissait très bien la culture du pays et tous les parcs que nous avons visités.
Voilà, si tu as d'autres questions, n'hésite pas à me le demander.
😏
Voici mes impressions que j'ai envoyées sur le site en décembre. Est-ce que tu peux me dire quel est ton programme - les endroits où tu vasexactement ? - -- Voici quelques anecdotes et commentaires de mon voyage en Afrique. Le voyage a été fantastique. C'est une expérience unique que mon mari et moi avons pu vivre en Tanzanie pour avoir vu en safari tous les animaux sauvages dans leur habitat naturel, sur l'Ile de Zanzibar pour avoir pu marcher jusqu'au récif de corail et voir toutes les richesses et la beauté de la mer de cristal, et au Rwanda avec nos amis qui y vivent depuis 7 ans et qui nous ont fait visiter ce pays magnifique du nord au sud et d'est en ouest en passant par toutes les émotions lorsque nous avons visité les villages éloignés et avons constaté qu’il y a bien de la pauvreté malgré la beauté de ce pays.
Aussi incroyable que cela puisse paraître, ces 5 semaines ont défilé à une telle vitesse que nous n'avons pas vu le temps passé.
Les safaris en Tanzanie sont au-delà de tout ce qu'on peut lire et voir en photos dans les magazines. Comme on dit, il faut le voir pour le croire. Nous avons dormi dans une tente en plein cœur du Serengeti avec les animaux sauvages autour de nous. Un éléphant est venu nous rendre visite durant la nuit pour manger l'herbe verte autour de notre tente ... et cet exercice a duré plus d'une heure et demie. Il a même frappé sur mon lit qui a déplacé d'au moins 8 pouces... On l'entendait mâcher et respirer et on n'osait pas bouger de peur de l'effrayer et qu'il s'accroche dans les cordes et arrache tout en se sauvant. On a donc attendu qu'il finisse et qu'il quitte notre environnement. J'avoue que j'ai eu un peu peur.
Le lendemain matin, en quittant le camp, nous avons vu une maman girafe avec son bébé, on a fait la course aux lionnes qui se sont arrêtées pour se rafraîchir à l'ombre des arbres ce qui m’a permis de les prendre en photos. Au détour d’un lac, l’adrénaline est montée au maximum lorsqu’on a assisté à une bataille entre deux hippopotames pour que le plus fort garde son plan d'eau avec son harem .... Impressionnant.
Sur l'Ile de Zanzibar, la température de l'eau est au dessus de 25 degrés en tout temps. L'eau est claire comme du cristal et les plages de sable blanc sont à perte de vue. À la marée basse, nous avons pu marcher jusqu’au récif de corail et admirer les étoiles de mer ainsi que les oursins.
Le Rwanda est un pays qui se reconstruit après le génocide. Au contraire de ce que je croyais, c'est magnifique. C'est le pays des milles collines. Il n'y a pas une parcelle de terre, autant sur le plat que dans les collines qui ne soit pas cultivée et tout cela manuellement par les pauvres gens qui vivent de leur culture. Des cultures de café, de thé, de bananes, d'ananas, de patates, légumes et fruits de toutes sortes. Il y a des fleurs et des oiseaux en abondance qui partagent tout ce territoire. Il y a aussi les pêcheurs, au nord-ouest du pays sur le Lac Kivu qui fait toute la longueur des pays du Rwanda et du Congo, que nous avons vus partir le soir et revenir au matin en chantant avec les barques pleines de poissons. Tous ces pauvres gens, du plus petit au plus grand, qui marchent tous les jours sur le bord des routes pour aller chercher et transporter l’eau potable, le bois et les vivres pour la journée.
Tant de beaux souvenirs et trop à raconter ! Ils disent que les voyages forment la jeunesse … je crois que oui et j’ai déjà hâte de repartir vers une nouvelle destination.
En Tanzanie, nous avons fait notre voyage avec l'agence Maasaï Wanderings (guide Boris) mais par l'entremise de Bel Africa. Tout s'est très bien passé. Quelques déceptions sur les lunchs box durant les safaris et sur le lodge à Arusha. Dans les véhicules des safaris, il fait terriblement chaud encore plus si vous êtes plusieurs dans le véhicule et l'eau que l'on vous fournit, est à la même température. Mais quelle expérience fantastique. J'y retournerais sans hésiter. Notre guide Boris Mugisha était vraiment super. Il est à son compte, vous pouvez le demander par l'Agence de votre choix et il peut vous accompagner. Sur l'Île de Zanzibar, nous étions au Dream of Zanzibar mais les repas n'étaient pas à la hauteur de cet hôtel. La plage est magnifique mais il y a des vendeurs qui ne nous lâchent pas de la journée - c'est un peu achalant. On peut aller marcher jusqu'à la barrière de corail mais n'oublier pas de vous apporter des souliers d'eau pour vous rendre.
Le voyage au Rwanda a été organisé personnellement et ce sont nos amis qui nous ont fait visiter ce merveilleux pays. - -- Avec le Tour BelAfrica, tout a bien été. Seulement les lunchs box qui n'étaient pas terribles et le lodge à Arusha. Notre guide, Boris était super. Il connaissait très bien la culture du pays et tous les parcs que nous avons visités.
Voilà, si tu as d'autres questions, n'hésite pas à me le demander.
😏
Louise
Bonsoir Mystibou
Merci pour cette réponse rapide . Comme je l'ai dit, nous partons avec Bel Africa pour 11 nuits sur place avec nos 2 enfants de 13 et 10 ans 1ere nuit à Arusha à l'Ilburu lodge 1 nuit Au Maramboi au Tarangire 1 nuit au Ngorongoro au farmhouse avec visite du village d'Esilalei 2 nuits à Ndutu au Nasikia tented camp 2 nuits au Serengeti au Nasikia central camp 4 nuits au Mapenzi à Zanzibar Avez vous fait des excursions sur l'ile et lesquelles valent le coup ? Merci bcp pour le temps que vous m'accordez
Nathalie
Merci pour cette réponse rapide . Comme je l'ai dit, nous partons avec Bel Africa pour 11 nuits sur place avec nos 2 enfants de 13 et 10 ans 1ere nuit à Arusha à l'Ilburu lodge 1 nuit Au Maramboi au Tarangire 1 nuit au Ngorongoro au farmhouse avec visite du village d'Esilalei 2 nuits à Ndutu au Nasikia tented camp 2 nuits au Serengeti au Nasikia central camp 4 nuits au Mapenzi à Zanzibar Avez vous fait des excursions sur l'ile et lesquelles valent le coup ? Merci bcp pour le temps que vous m'accordez
Nathalie
Bonjour Nathalie,
Nous avons dormi au Maramboi au Tarangire = très bien et la bouffe est bonne. Il y a une belle piscine et un très bel endroit pour manger. Lunch box de cet endroit = assurez-vs de ne pas mettre de mayonnaise dans vos sandwichs car ça reste à la chaleur dans le camion jusqu'au lunch....
Serengeti - au Nasikia Central Camp - très belle expérience - confortable même si c'est une tente - des vrais lits à l'intérieur. Nous avons eu de la visite pendant la nuit autour de la tente ... mais rien n'est arrivé. Expérience particulière car on est dans un parc d'animaux sauvages. Repas sont servis tard et nourriture très ordinaire. Lunch box = pas plus que cela.
Pour nous, les lunchs box n'ont pas été à la hauteur de nos attentes mais je crois que d'autres personnes n'ont pas de problème avec cela.
Sur l'île de Zanzibar, nous n'avons fait aucune excursion. Nous avons dormi une nuit à StoneTown ce qui nous a permis d'aller marcher dans les rues (labyrinte)remplies de boutique. On a bien aimé cela, les gens sont très gentils. Les tours sont beaucoup moins chers à partir de Stone Town. On nous a dit que la visite de l'île aux esclaves-tortues est ordinaire et en plus de payer pour te rendre à cette île à partir de Stone Town, tu paies un supplément pour aller voir les tortues sur l'île ... prendre toutes les infos avant d'acheter le tour. Les épices, il paraît que c'est bien mais ça dure environ 30 minutes pour montrer des plants d'épices et le reste du temps - je ne sais pas. Mais, il y a des gens qui ont bien aimé cela. Nous étions au Dream of Zanzibar - voir sur internet le même nom pour les photos - très beau mais la bouffe est ordinaire. Plage extraordinaire, température magnifique, on a marché jusqu'à la barrière de corail = magnifique mais n'oublier pas vos souliers pour marcher dans l'eau sinon on se blesse les pieds. Nous ne le savions pas alors on est allé marcher parce que c'est magnifique et on s'est blessé les pieds. N'oubliez pas votre crème solaire car le soleil est brûlant. Endroit paradisiaque.
A+
Nous avons dormi au Maramboi au Tarangire = très bien et la bouffe est bonne. Il y a une belle piscine et un très bel endroit pour manger. Lunch box de cet endroit = assurez-vs de ne pas mettre de mayonnaise dans vos sandwichs car ça reste à la chaleur dans le camion jusqu'au lunch....
Serengeti - au Nasikia Central Camp - très belle expérience - confortable même si c'est une tente - des vrais lits à l'intérieur. Nous avons eu de la visite pendant la nuit autour de la tente ... mais rien n'est arrivé. Expérience particulière car on est dans un parc d'animaux sauvages. Repas sont servis tard et nourriture très ordinaire. Lunch box = pas plus que cela.
Pour nous, les lunchs box n'ont pas été à la hauteur de nos attentes mais je crois que d'autres personnes n'ont pas de problème avec cela.
Sur l'île de Zanzibar, nous n'avons fait aucune excursion. Nous avons dormi une nuit à StoneTown ce qui nous a permis d'aller marcher dans les rues (labyrinte)remplies de boutique. On a bien aimé cela, les gens sont très gentils. Les tours sont beaucoup moins chers à partir de Stone Town. On nous a dit que la visite de l'île aux esclaves-tortues est ordinaire et en plus de payer pour te rendre à cette île à partir de Stone Town, tu paies un supplément pour aller voir les tortues sur l'île ... prendre toutes les infos avant d'acheter le tour. Les épices, il paraît que c'est bien mais ça dure environ 30 minutes pour montrer des plants d'épices et le reste du temps - je ne sais pas. Mais, il y a des gens qui ont bien aimé cela. Nous étions au Dream of Zanzibar - voir sur internet le même nom pour les photos - très beau mais la bouffe est ordinaire. Plage extraordinaire, température magnifique, on a marché jusqu'à la barrière de corail = magnifique mais n'oublier pas vos souliers pour marcher dans l'eau sinon on se blesse les pieds. Nous ne le savions pas alors on est allé marcher parce que c'est magnifique et on s'est blessé les pieds. N'oubliez pas votre crème solaire car le soleil est brûlant. Endroit paradisiaque.
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Louise
Etes-vous demeuré au l'Ilburu lodge. Je suis supposé y séjourner, j'aimrais avoir votre avis.
Merci Mike
Merci Mike
Bonjour Dropak,
Il existe aussi le "walking safari" qui mixe safari en jeep et rando de quelques jours dans la zone de conservation du Ngorongoro, avec des ânes guidés par un Ranger Maassaï. Avec également possibilité de faire l'ascension de nuit du mont Lengaï.
Sinon pour les prix, pour 9 jours je pense plutôt à 1800 par personne (200/jour) maxi, vous êtes nombreux. Mais 800 en aucun cas, tu imagines ça ferait 80 $ par personne, et le prix d'entrée étant de 35 ou 50$ + camping 40$, comment ils font pour la nourriture, l'essence et tout? Vous allez manger des baies? ^^
Il existe aussi le "walking safari" qui mixe safari en jeep et rando de quelques jours dans la zone de conservation du Ngorongoro, avec des ânes guidés par un Ranger Maassaï. Avec également possibilité de faire l'ascension de nuit du mont Lengaï.
Sinon pour les prix, pour 9 jours je pense plutôt à 1800 par personne (200/jour) maxi, vous êtes nombreux. Mais 800 en aucun cas, tu imagines ça ferait 80 $ par personne, et le prix d'entrée étant de 35 ou 50$ + camping 40$, comment ils font pour la nourriture, l'essence et tout? Vous allez manger des baies? ^^
mon blog sur la Tanzanie: latanzaniedestephanie.wordpress.com
J'ajouterai à tout cela .... un bénéfice car il faut aussi que ces entreprises vivent !!!!
j'aime plus Genève, 🙁 tout est gris, les maisons, et immeubles: "boîtes grises" et en général il n'y a plus d'identité à Genève !
je me sens toujours mieux en France, et surtout à Paris
j'aime aussi la Tanzanie (c'est plus loin je sais)
mon but: déménager dès que je peux, trouver des amis, une copine ailleurs !
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mon but: déménager dès que je peux, trouver des amis, une copine ailleurs !
electricite @ netcourrier.com
Bonjour !
Nous sommes une famille de 5. pour l'instant notre projet pour octobre prochain n'est qu'au stade du devis et c'est vraie que le budget est lourd pour une famille ! Finalement par quelle agence êtes vous partis, étiez vous satisfait ? quel ordre de prix pour le budget ?
Et zanzibar, l'avez vous fait, l'avez vous fait sans agence ???
Merci Claire
Nous sommes une famille de 5. pour l'instant notre projet pour octobre prochain n'est qu'au stade du devis et c'est vraie que le budget est lourd pour une famille ! Finalement par quelle agence êtes vous partis, étiez vous satisfait ? quel ordre de prix pour le budget ?
Et zanzibar, l'avez vous fait, l'avez vous fait sans agence ???
Merci Claire
claire
Bonjour Cajupije
Notre voyage avec Bel Africa s'est très bien passé , à tous les niveaux : choix des lodges, des étapes , de la nourriture .... Chaque jour a été un émerveillement avec tout ce que la faune africaine peut offrir . Notre guide était patient , à l'écoute et doué pour trouver les animaux . Mention spéciale pour le parc de Tarangire , pour ses paysages et ses éléphants . Le Ngorongoro est le parc le plus touristique avec 4/4 à la queue devant une scène animalière . Nous le savions avant de partir , mais en même temps , première fois en Tanzanie , nous avions peur de louper qq. chose si nous n'y passions pas . Nous y avons vu de belles scènes , mais c'est vrai que le flots incessant de 4/4 est pesant . Nous n'y retournerions pas si nous devions refaire un safari en Tanzanie . Les tented camp au milieu de la brousse à Ndutu et au Serengeti sont une expérience à ne pas louper . Assez confort pour des tentes , les repas sont bons , personne n'a été malade et nous avons eu des sensations fortes pendant les nuits ( troupeaux de buffles broutant autour de notre tente qui bougeait en pleine nuit , rugissement de lions , cris de hyènes ... Génial . La visite du village de masai est authentique et pas touristique comme l'on peut en voir sur la route de Ngorongoro . Bref je ne trouve pas de points négatifs à part si on veut vraiment faire les difficiles : les lunch box . Voilà , vous pouvez partir tranquille et le cœur léger , vous allez faire un voyage inoubliable . Laurence de Bel Africa est super dispo , et toujours de bons conseils . Bon voyage
Notre voyage avec Bel Africa s'est très bien passé , à tous les niveaux : choix des lodges, des étapes , de la nourriture .... Chaque jour a été un émerveillement avec tout ce que la faune africaine peut offrir . Notre guide était patient , à l'écoute et doué pour trouver les animaux . Mention spéciale pour le parc de Tarangire , pour ses paysages et ses éléphants . Le Ngorongoro est le parc le plus touristique avec 4/4 à la queue devant une scène animalière . Nous le savions avant de partir , mais en même temps , première fois en Tanzanie , nous avions peur de louper qq. chose si nous n'y passions pas . Nous y avons vu de belles scènes , mais c'est vrai que le flots incessant de 4/4 est pesant . Nous n'y retournerions pas si nous devions refaire un safari en Tanzanie . Les tented camp au milieu de la brousse à Ndutu et au Serengeti sont une expérience à ne pas louper . Assez confort pour des tentes , les repas sont bons , personne n'a été malade et nous avons eu des sensations fortes pendant les nuits ( troupeaux de buffles broutant autour de notre tente qui bougeait en pleine nuit , rugissement de lions , cris de hyènes ... Génial . La visite du village de masai est authentique et pas touristique comme l'on peut en voir sur la route de Ngorongoro . Bref je ne trouve pas de points négatifs à part si on veut vraiment faire les difficiles : les lunch box . Voilà , vous pouvez partir tranquille et le cœur léger , vous allez faire un voyage inoubliable . Laurence de Bel Africa est super dispo , et toujours de bons conseils . Bon voyage
Bonsoir Nathalie,
Merci de ton compte-rendu, c'est toujours sympathique de partager, et le partage comporte deux sens, recevoir et donner. Pour le Ngorongoro, que j'ai beaucoup aimé en son temps, c'est effectivement peut-être au delà du point de saturation, mais je pense que vous avez eu raison de tenter l'expérience pour une première fois. Ensuite, il y a sans doute encore des manières de limiter les dégâts, être en bas du cratère à la première heure, ne pas rester au centre, etc. Pour les lunch-boxes, hélas, c'est général, sauf hébergements de luxe qui te préparent des plats cuisinés servis sur table et nappe, c'est le sempiternel poulet fumé, la pomme verte d'Afrique du Sud, le carton de jus de fruit et les chips... Mais bon, un full day vaut bien un petit sacrifice, s'pas ?
Cordialement
BL
Merci de ton compte-rendu, c'est toujours sympathique de partager, et le partage comporte deux sens, recevoir et donner. Pour le Ngorongoro, que j'ai beaucoup aimé en son temps, c'est effectivement peut-être au delà du point de saturation, mais je pense que vous avez eu raison de tenter l'expérience pour une première fois. Ensuite, il y a sans doute encore des manières de limiter les dégâts, être en bas du cratère à la première heure, ne pas rester au centre, etc. Pour les lunch-boxes, hélas, c'est général, sauf hébergements de luxe qui te préparent des plats cuisinés servis sur table et nappe, c'est le sempiternel poulet fumé, la pomme verte d'Afrique du Sud, le carton de jus de fruit et les chips... Mais bon, un full day vaut bien un petit sacrifice, s'pas ?
Cordialement
BL
safari photo en Tanzanie et ailleurs https://safari-tanzanie.fr
WILIPI photographie animalière
Bonsoir Bernard
Merci à vous pour tous vos partages et conseils sur les forums divers et variés , cela nous a aidé à l'élaboration de notre voyage . Vu également vos photos qui sont magnifiques . Cordialement
Nathalie
Merci à vous pour tous vos partages et conseils sur les forums divers et variés , cela nous a aidé à l'élaboration de notre voyage . Vu également vos photos qui sont magnifiques . Cordialement
Nathalie
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When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
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Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
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I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
Hi,
I’m heading to Angola for two weeks starting mid-April and I’d like to rent a car to explore the country, but not a 4x4 to keep my budget in check. I plan to mostly stay in the western part and go as far as the Namibian border. Is it possible to drive in Iona Park without a 4x4, or to get to Kalendula or Piedra Negras? Also, is the Lubango–Huambo–Kuito–Malanje route doable in a city car? Lastly, do gas stations accept Visa?
Thanks for your feedback and tips!
Hello
Now that the Kruger part is (almost) wrapped up, I’m looking at the "Cape region" section.
The idea of spending 2 days (well, more like 2 nights and 1.5 days) in the Cederberg is really tempting 😎.
I’ve reread the posts about it—more or less (actually, more less than more)—and I still have quite a few questions: - Where’s the best area to stay? Initially, I was looking at Kagga Kama, but I’m not sure if it’s worth the cost (or the trip, for that matter), or maybe Mount Ceder? Or somewhere else (without driving 6 or 8 hours from CT 😉)? The plan is to get there in a sedan (if possible), see some beautiful landscapes, and do one or two hikes (nothing too tough 😛). - I read that you need a permit to hike there... where do you buy it? (At the entrance, like in Kruger? 🤪) - Is October a good time for the weather (theoretically...)?
Now that the Kruger part is (almost) wrapped up, I’m looking at the "Cape region" section.
The idea of spending 2 days (well, more like 2 nights and 1.5 days) in the Cederberg is really tempting 😎.
I’ve reread the posts about it—more or less (actually, more less than more)—and I still have quite a few questions: - Where’s the best area to stay? Initially, I was looking at Kagga Kama, but I’m not sure if it’s worth the cost (or the trip, for that matter), or maybe Mount Ceder? Or somewhere else (without driving 6 or 8 hours from CT 😉)? The plan is to get there in a sedan (if possible), see some beautiful landscapes, and do one or two hikes (nothing too tough 😛). - I read that you need a permit to hike there... where do you buy it? (At the entrance, like in Kruger? 🤪) - Is October a good time for the weather (theoretically...)?






