Safari au Kenya/Tanzanie
by Iverson99
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour ,
Nous prévoyons de partir 10jours voir 12 au mois d'août , après quelques recherche sur internet , on a décidé de commencer par kenya notamment nairobi / nakuro / masai mara et passer les frontière tanzanienne pour voir Seregniti / nogorongoro xD /Lake . alors Que pensez vous ? vous avez s'il vous plait des idées sur les agences de voyage (tatos kato to ... lol) ? le vaccin nécessaire , préparation de ce voyage , sur les vols ( on est au Maroc )...... . Merci d'avance
Bonjour,
Je connais un TO local qui organise ce genre de trip : Françis www.charofranc@yahoo.comm ( en anglais ) Il est parfaitement possible de faire nakuru/ masai-mara / ngorogoro / serenguetti / lac manyara / tangire puis retour sur nairobi ou mombasa pour passer du temps à DIANI dans un cottage le long de la mer. question prix et atmosphère, je te conseille le tented camp ( au budget moyen ) au kenya et le camping-safari en tanzanie ( les lodges sont ors de prix ). Pour l' avion, voir www.omeilleursprix.com; kenya airways dessert de nombreuses destinations en afrique, mais c'est assez cher. Si tu as un bon tarif entre le maroc et paris peut-être vaut-il mieux passer par roissy et prendre royal jordan ou egyptair ou ethiopan suivant l'offre ' la meilleure offre est environ 3 semaines avant le départ ). Il te faut la vaccination contre la fièvre jaune. Le visa pour le kenya se prend à l'arrivée à l'aéroport et celui pour la tanzanie en passant la frontière à namanga.
cordialement
Je connais un TO local qui organise ce genre de trip : Françis www.charofranc@yahoo.comm ( en anglais ) Il est parfaitement possible de faire nakuru/ masai-mara / ngorogoro / serenguetti / lac manyara / tangire puis retour sur nairobi ou mombasa pour passer du temps à DIANI dans un cottage le long de la mer. question prix et atmosphère, je te conseille le tented camp ( au budget moyen ) au kenya et le camping-safari en tanzanie ( les lodges sont ors de prix ). Pour l' avion, voir www.omeilleursprix.com; kenya airways dessert de nombreuses destinations en afrique, mais c'est assez cher. Si tu as un bon tarif entre le maroc et paris peut-être vaut-il mieux passer par roissy et prendre royal jordan ou egyptair ou ethiopan suivant l'offre ' la meilleure offre est environ 3 semaines avant le départ ). Il te faut la vaccination contre la fièvre jaune. Le visa pour le kenya se prend à l'arrivée à l'aéroport et celui pour la tanzanie en passant la frontière à namanga.
cordialement
(guerlais)
bonjour , et Merciiiiii énormément pour toutes ces informations
je vais contacter Francis pour voir ses propositions et ses offres en espérant mieux bien sur , car je communique déjà avec deux agences (Siyabona Africa , africanservalcatsafaris ) qui offrent aussi des Safari pareils mais c'est comme l'achat des poissons dans la mère xD . pour les vols j'essaye de suivre votre propositions car c'est un peu rare des vols de Maroc vers Kenya (apparemment le même le problème pour cuba) Mais j'espère y arriver .
Cordialement
Chaouqi
Cordialement
Chaouqi
Bonjour,
pour l'avion regarde également sur les sites d'egyptair, ethiopan et royal jordan.
cordialement
pour l'avion regarde également sur les sites d'egyptair, ethiopan et royal jordan.
cordialement
(guerlais)
Ce programme est tout à fait réalisable.
En ce qui concerne les vaccins, il faut être à jour de ses vaccins et la fièvre jaune est obligatoire en Tanzanie. Le site de l'institut Pasteur donne les conseils aux voyageurs par destination.
Ne pas négliger le traitement antipaludéen, un répulsif contre les mouches Tsé-tsé au Serengeti.
ptidikdik fan de safari
Désolée mais je ne suis pas d'accord. Beaucoup trop de "pistes" en si peu de temps. Il vaut mieux, c'est mon avis, de privilégier 2 ou 3 parcs et d'y rester plusieurs nuits. Ainsi pas besoin de bouger tous les jours et le guide peut mieux pister les bestiaux.
Là dans ce circuit, vous voulez faire combien de parcs en 10 jours ??? 7, 8 .... c'est comme visiter la France en 15 jours. On voit rien !!!.
Je suis allée en Tanzanie en septembre 2010 : 7 jours : Tarangire, Manyara, N'gorongoro et Serengeti et j'ai trouvé ça trop rapide, rien que Tarangire mérite 2 nuits mini. et Serengeti 3 mini !!!.
Désolée mais je ne suis pas d'accord. Beaucoup trop de "pistes" en si peu de temps. Il vaut mieux, c'est mon avis, de privilégier 2 ou 3 parcs et d'y rester plusieurs nuits. Ainsi pas besoin de bouger tous les jours et le guide peut mieux pister les bestiaux.
Là dans ce circuit, vous voulez faire combien de parcs en 10 jours ??? 7, 8 .... c'est comme visiter la France en 15 jours. On voit rien !!!.
Je suis allée en Tanzanie en septembre 2010 : 7 jours : Tarangire, Manyara, N'gorongoro et Serengeti et j'ai trouvé ça trop rapide, rien que Tarangire mérite 2 nuits mini. et Serengeti 3 mini !!!.
tout à fait d'accord avec vous mimi , j'ai fait 7jours en Tanzanie seulement et 2 parcs, et une autre fois au Kénya 2 aussi, et un séjour à Diani , mais en 10 jours je pense que les organisateurs sur place ne feront pas tout ça en si peu de temps .
tout à fait d'accord avec vous mimi , j'ai fait 7jours en Tanzanie seulement et 2 parcs, et une autre fois au Kénya 2 aussi, et un séjour à Diani , mais en 10 jours je pense que les organisateurs sur place ne feront pas tout ça en si peu de temps .
Merci encore Pti , jo et salut Mimi .
au faite ça nous apparait idéal de faire : lake nakuru 1 jour /masai mara 2 jours / serenguetti 2 jours / ngorogoro 2 jours / lac manyara 1 jour/ tangire 1 jour voir deux . mais ce que j'aimerai bien savoir c'est le temps nécessaire pour passer de chaque parc à un autre .
Cordialement
Cordialement
salut
nous sommes rentrés lundi 6 au soir de 14 jours dont 8 en tanzanie ds les parcs du nord
Cicuit assez dense et etapes qui m'on parues trop rapides
Comme bcp de membres te le disent fais moins ou peu mais fais bien ; ou alors privilégie un gros budget en vols intérieurs
car sinon tu ne fera que la moitié de tes étapes en observation et l'autre moitiée en routes et/ou pistes
Nous avions en gros le circuit ci dessous ( et avons du supprimer les gorges d'olduvai car avions pris plus de temps en observations des animaux en quittant le 2éme jour la Seronera au centre du Serengeti )
1ér jour arrivée 14h à Kili airport et route pour 1 nuit vers le tarangire et 1 nuit au meme tented camp aprés la journée de visite au tanrangire le 2éme jour , 3éme jour :route + journée pleine au ngorongoro ;nuit à karatu ;4éme jour; route puis arrivée pour aprés midi vers le lac Eyasi + nuit sur place ;5éme jour visite des hadzabé et datogas et route pour retour à karatu ( mauvais choix de logement ce jour là que j'optimiserais mieux sur un second voyage) 6éme jour :route vers la region de ndutu ds la zone de conservation du Ngorongoro , longue aprés midi safari à Ndutu et nuit sur place ; 7éme jour :route et safari ds le serengueti et nuit sur place.8éme jour route en safari et fin de journée par 3h à manyara nuit à manyara ; 9eme route vers arusha et envol pour zanzibar vers 14h. Au final je privéligierais 2 jours pleins au tarangire ;1 jour au lac Eyasi ;1 jour au ngorongoro ; 1ou 2 jrs ds la region de ndutu et 3 jours ds le serengeti et si tu fais plus ajoutes le lac natron . Je trouve que le serengueti ne peut s'apprécier qu'avec au moins 3 jrs sur place
Si tu souhaites faire sur 12 jours le kenya et les parcs de tanzanie c'est du survol en helicoptére qu'il faut faire ......car les distances ds le serengeti sont immenses et les pistes c'est env 60kms /h maxi je ne sais pas d'ou tu partirais au kenya et ou tu entrerais en tanzanie mais en plus ça te fais 2 visas a payer (1 ds chaque pays) 50USD à chaque fois /personne j'avais trouver à 750 euros/pers des vols qatar airways de CDG à Nairobi et retour de Dar es salam vers CDG via Doha (escales de 3 h env à l'aller et au retour) mais arrivant à nairobi j'ai failli payer un visa de transit rien que pour recuperer mes bagages et reprendre un vol local sur "précision air " pour Kili airport .Le "systéme D" m'a coutè seulement 10 USD de pourboires mais ce genre d'anecdotes ou d'imprévus peut aussi ajouter en dépenses. J'imagine mal ces 2 pays sur un seul voyage ou alors en 3 ou 4 semaines et un gros budget
Bons choix et bons préparatifs à toi slts jp
1ér jour arrivée 14h à Kili airport et route pour 1 nuit vers le tarangire et 1 nuit au meme tented camp aprés la journée de visite au tanrangire le 2éme jour , 3éme jour :route + journée pleine au ngorongoro ;nuit à karatu ;4éme jour; route puis arrivée pour aprés midi vers le lac Eyasi + nuit sur place ;5éme jour visite des hadzabé et datogas et route pour retour à karatu ( mauvais choix de logement ce jour là que j'optimiserais mieux sur un second voyage) 6éme jour :route vers la region de ndutu ds la zone de conservation du Ngorongoro , longue aprés midi safari à Ndutu et nuit sur place ; 7éme jour :route et safari ds le serengueti et nuit sur place.8éme jour route en safari et fin de journée par 3h à manyara nuit à manyara ; 9eme route vers arusha et envol pour zanzibar vers 14h. Au final je privéligierais 2 jours pleins au tarangire ;1 jour au lac Eyasi ;1 jour au ngorongoro ; 1ou 2 jrs ds la region de ndutu et 3 jours ds le serengeti et si tu fais plus ajoutes le lac natron . Je trouve que le serengueti ne peut s'apprécier qu'avec au moins 3 jrs sur place
Si tu souhaites faire sur 12 jours le kenya et les parcs de tanzanie c'est du survol en helicoptére qu'il faut faire ......car les distances ds le serengeti sont immenses et les pistes c'est env 60kms /h maxi je ne sais pas d'ou tu partirais au kenya et ou tu entrerais en tanzanie mais en plus ça te fais 2 visas a payer (1 ds chaque pays) 50USD à chaque fois /personne j'avais trouver à 750 euros/pers des vols qatar airways de CDG à Nairobi et retour de Dar es salam vers CDG via Doha (escales de 3 h env à l'aller et au retour) mais arrivant à nairobi j'ai failli payer un visa de transit rien que pour recuperer mes bagages et reprendre un vol local sur "précision air " pour Kili airport .Le "systéme D" m'a coutè seulement 10 USD de pourboires mais ce genre d'anecdotes ou d'imprévus peut aussi ajouter en dépenses. J'imagine mal ces 2 pays sur un seul voyage ou alors en 3 ou 4 semaines et un gros budget
Bons choix et bons préparatifs à toi slts jp
"on ne choisit pas les trottoirs de manille ;de paris ou d'alger pour apprendre à marcher" (maxime le forestier)
Ah j'oubliais ....
les compagnies du golfe comme "emirates" ;"qatar airways" ;ethiad et surement egytair ou autres desservent le maghreb et tu peux surement trouver des vols directement du maroc avec escale aux emirats ou au caire pour rejoindre le kenya ou la tanzanie
bye!
"on ne choisit pas les trottoirs de manille ;de paris ou d'alger pour apprendre à marcher" (maxime le forestier)
Bonjour,
actuellement tu as un vol casa-nairobi via istanbul ( turkishe ) pour 640 euros ( e-dreams ); par contre ce tarif n'est proposé qu'un mois avant le départ.
cordialement
actuellement tu as un vol casa-nairobi via istanbul ( turkishe ) pour 640 euros ( e-dreams ); par contre ce tarif n'est proposé qu'un mois avant le départ.
cordialement
(guerlais)
bonjour,
actuellement tu as un vol casa-nairobi via istanbul ( turkishe ) pour 640 euros ( e-dreams ): par contre ce vol n'est proposé qu'un à deux mois avant le départ.
cordialement
actuellement tu as un vol casa-nairobi via istanbul ( turkishe ) pour 640 euros ( e-dreams ): par contre ce vol n'est proposé qu'un à deux mois avant le départ.
cordialement
(guerlais)
bonjour ,
et Merci pour vos aides , j'ai déjà réservé le billet qui m'a couté un peu prêt le double par correspondance Amsterdam (je n'ai pas eu le choix) , voir qu'une amie voudrai aussi venir faire le même Safari . elle vient de Canada et elle fera l'escale à Amsterdam dans le même jour à fin de prendre le même Vol au Nairobi xD , un peu compliqué mais bon . j'espère que ça ira sans problème . et maintenant je suis dans la phase de la sélection des agences de voyages . j'ai une offre c'est vrai que c'est chère mais je voudrai bien vos avis .
28 Aug 12 Nairobi/ Lake Nakuru On arrival at Jomo Kenyatta Airport, you will be met by a representative who will drive you to Lake Nakuru National Park, a protected game sanctuary for endangered species such as the Black/ White rhino, Rothschild Giraffe among other usual game such as the leopard and Lion. Arrive in time for lunch. Afternoon game drive until sunset. Dinner and overnight at SAROVA LIONHILL LODGE (full board)
29 Aug 12 Nairobi/ Maasai Mara After breakfast, depart to Maasai Mara Game Reserve. Arrive in time for lunch at your camp. Later depart for an afternoon game drive until sunset. Dinner and overnight at the KEEKOROK LODGE (full board)
30 Aug 12 Maasai Mara Spend a further day in the Mara with morning and afternoon game drives. During your stay, you have the opportunity to explore this great reserve in depth. You will have a chance to see elephant, giraffe, prides of lion, and thousands of impala, topi, grant's and Thomson's gazelle. The Mara is the scene of annual migration of millions of wildebeest up from the Serengeti plains in search of water and grasses. All meals and overnights KEEKOROK LODGE (full board)
31 Aug 12 Maasai Mara/ Serengeti After breakfast at the lodge, depart with picnic lunch Via Isebania gate and after the immigration formalities, proceed with our Tanzanian driver/guide to Africa’s most famous park - the Serengeti National Park. Game drive en route to your lodge. Dinner and overnight At SERENGETI SERENA LODGE (Full board)
1 Sep 12 Serengeti One more day at Serengeti National Park to explore its 5,600 sq. miles. We will see cheetah, giraffe, lion, leopard, elephant - the list is endless. And each year it is the scene of the great migration where millions of wildebeest and zebra make their annual trek in search of fresh grass. Serengeti National Park is the Africa most of us have seen on television. Many National Geographic specials have been filmed here. Now we can see first hand why so many naturalists and photographers are drawn to this place. All meals and overnight at SERENGETI SERENA LODGE (full board)
2 Sep 12 Serengeti/Ngorongoro This morning, drive across the Serengeti towards Ngorongoro conservation Area with a visit to the Olduvai Gorge, where famed archaeologists Louis and Mary Leakey discovered the fossilized remains of the earliest known man, believed to be about 1.8 million years old. You will have plenty of opportunities for wildlife viewing en route to your accommodation in Ngorongoro. Arrive in time for lunch at the Lodge followed by an afternoon at leisure. Dinner and overnight NGORONGORO SERENA LODGE(full board)
3 Sep 12 Ngorongoro After breakfast, depart for a 5-hour drive to experience the Africa of bygone days when you explore the "lost world" of Ngorongoro Crater. Within the walls of the crater lie short grasslands, swamps, forests and a freshwater lake, inspiring continual migration of animals. From your four-wheel drive vehicle, crafted exclusively for World Discovery, you'll have an opportunity to spot the "big five" - buffalo, elephant, leopard, the black maned lion and the endangered, rare black rhinoceros - as well as zebra, wildebeest and gazelles. Ascend to the lodge from the 2000 feet deep crater. Picnic lunch on the way with an afternoon game drive enroute to the lodge. Dinner and overnight at the LAKE MANYARA SERENA LODGE (full board)
4 Sep Nairobi/ Depart After breakfast, depart for morning game drive through the Park’s Mahogany forest; marsh, grass and scrubland, which are home to over 350 species of birds that populate this magnificent, tangle of vegetation. The park is famous for the tree-climbing lions that inhabit its forests. Later drive to Arusha. Upon arrival you will be transferred to Kilimanjaro Airport for scheduled flight to Nairobi.
Rate per person – US$ 4803.00
Can we proceed with a reservation?
Thanks
Merci encore
28 Aug 12 Nairobi/ Lake Nakuru On arrival at Jomo Kenyatta Airport, you will be met by a representative who will drive you to Lake Nakuru National Park, a protected game sanctuary for endangered species such as the Black/ White rhino, Rothschild Giraffe among other usual game such as the leopard and Lion. Arrive in time for lunch. Afternoon game drive until sunset. Dinner and overnight at SAROVA LIONHILL LODGE (full board)
29 Aug 12 Nairobi/ Maasai Mara After breakfast, depart to Maasai Mara Game Reserve. Arrive in time for lunch at your camp. Later depart for an afternoon game drive until sunset. Dinner and overnight at the KEEKOROK LODGE (full board)
30 Aug 12 Maasai Mara Spend a further day in the Mara with morning and afternoon game drives. During your stay, you have the opportunity to explore this great reserve in depth. You will have a chance to see elephant, giraffe, prides of lion, and thousands of impala, topi, grant's and Thomson's gazelle. The Mara is the scene of annual migration of millions of wildebeest up from the Serengeti plains in search of water and grasses. All meals and overnights KEEKOROK LODGE (full board)
31 Aug 12 Maasai Mara/ Serengeti After breakfast at the lodge, depart with picnic lunch Via Isebania gate and after the immigration formalities, proceed with our Tanzanian driver/guide to Africa’s most famous park - the Serengeti National Park. Game drive en route to your lodge. Dinner and overnight At SERENGETI SERENA LODGE (Full board)
1 Sep 12 Serengeti One more day at Serengeti National Park to explore its 5,600 sq. miles. We will see cheetah, giraffe, lion, leopard, elephant - the list is endless. And each year it is the scene of the great migration where millions of wildebeest and zebra make their annual trek in search of fresh grass. Serengeti National Park is the Africa most of us have seen on television. Many National Geographic specials have been filmed here. Now we can see first hand why so many naturalists and photographers are drawn to this place. All meals and overnight at SERENGETI SERENA LODGE (full board)
2 Sep 12 Serengeti/Ngorongoro This morning, drive across the Serengeti towards Ngorongoro conservation Area with a visit to the Olduvai Gorge, where famed archaeologists Louis and Mary Leakey discovered the fossilized remains of the earliest known man, believed to be about 1.8 million years old. You will have plenty of opportunities for wildlife viewing en route to your accommodation in Ngorongoro. Arrive in time for lunch at the Lodge followed by an afternoon at leisure. Dinner and overnight NGORONGORO SERENA LODGE(full board)
3 Sep 12 Ngorongoro After breakfast, depart for a 5-hour drive to experience the Africa of bygone days when you explore the "lost world" of Ngorongoro Crater. Within the walls of the crater lie short grasslands, swamps, forests and a freshwater lake, inspiring continual migration of animals. From your four-wheel drive vehicle, crafted exclusively for World Discovery, you'll have an opportunity to spot the "big five" - buffalo, elephant, leopard, the black maned lion and the endangered, rare black rhinoceros - as well as zebra, wildebeest and gazelles. Ascend to the lodge from the 2000 feet deep crater. Picnic lunch on the way with an afternoon game drive enroute to the lodge. Dinner and overnight at the LAKE MANYARA SERENA LODGE (full board)
4 Sep Nairobi/ Depart After breakfast, depart for morning game drive through the Park’s Mahogany forest; marsh, grass and scrubland, which are home to over 350 species of birds that populate this magnificent, tangle of vegetation. The park is famous for the tree-climbing lions that inhabit its forests. Later drive to Arusha. Upon arrival you will be transferred to Kilimanjaro Airport for scheduled flight to Nairobi.
Rate per person – US$ 4803.00
Can we proceed with a reservation?
Thanks
Merci encore
Bonsoir
Si tu veux des conseils trés avisés fais un MP à BLESL (membre de ce forum)
car ton programme est de 8 jours inclus dedans les jours d'arrivée et de départ ! et 1 passage de frontiére route et un vol de transfert Tanzanie /Kenya le dernier jour
;je ne connais pas la zone prévue au Kenya mais :
1) ça me parait cher ; peut étre à cause de la gamme de lodges (réputés trés haut de gamme)
2) env 3700 euros/personne (est ce qu'il y a les vols internationnaux sont dans ce prix)
3) enfin le parcours me parait un peu "marathon" en 8 jours avec beaucoup de route (ou pistes)
(je note par ex que le 2 sept "depart de ton lodge ds le serengeti puis écart de route pour visiter les gorges d'Olduvai puis arrivée dans le parc du ngorongoro ;tu auras cumulé plus d'1 demie journée de piste sans vraiment de safari ce jour là
ce n'est que mon huble avis ....
bons choix et safari ndjema !!
jipé
"on ne choisit pas les trottoirs de manille ;de paris ou d'alger pour apprendre à marcher" (maxime le forestier)
D'accord avec toi pour le MP, c'est un vrai dictionnaire safari cet homme là !!!
Je ne suis pas d'accord avec toi lorsque tu dis que les lodges sont très haut de gamme. Ce sont des lodges qui sont notés comme "confort" par certains TO (safarivo entre autres). Je suis allée au Serena lodge du lac Manyara et il est très agréable et il y a une très belle vue sur le lac.
bonjour et merci pour vos conseils ,
concernant leur prix proposé , non y compris pas le vol , j'ai déjà acheté le billet d'avion , enfin deux billets mais pas encore payé le Safari , j'hésite vraiment sur le parcours et bien-entendu ses prix , je ne veux pas consacrer mon safari en courant dans les pistes mais plutôt s'amuser , regarder la nature , animaux et forêt s'il y a lieu xD , et c'est ma petite amie qui veut voir tout et on risque de payer plus pour voir moins . bon à ce moment là je compte partir en turkey pour 10 jours et on a tombé encore sur le même problème mdr (5 ou 6 villes à visiter bof) . donc s'il vous plait si vous connaissez mieux à propos des Safari Kenya-Tanzania quel parcours vous proposez ?
Merci à vous tous et à très certainement
Notre safari de 7 jours en Tanzanie été rapide, trop à notre goût. Nous allons probablement y retourner mais ce sera uniquement dans 2 réserves : Tarangire et Serengeti et pour 10 jours et non 7.
Les Gorges d'Olduvai : aucun intérêt !!!.
Ngorongoro fait partie des classiques mais pour le prix, mieux ailleurs.
Pourquoi ne pas choisir un seul pays ?. Kenya, moins cher et plus de monde. Tanzanie, plus calme mais plus cher.
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Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Bonjour à tous!
Je recherche un guide francophone pour juillet 2019. Auriez-vous un contact local sur place? Pas de tour opérateur s'il vous plait.
D'avance merci!
Je recherche un guide francophone pour juillet 2019. Auriez-vous un contact local sur place? Pas de tour opérateur s'il vous plait.
D'avance merci!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Bonjour,
Je suis très intéressé a faire un voyage en Afrique du sud pour le mois de srptembre 2020. Ma question est je part en voyage organisé ou je fais moi même mon ittineraire. Car organisé cest quand même cher $$$$ mais le côté sécurité me rassure. Jaimerais votre avis sur la sécurité en afrique du sud et si il est facile d'organiser des activités comme les visites dans les vignobles, le Cap et faire un safarie par nous même. Le prix dun voyage organisé et Le faire nous même quest qui est mieux. Cest certain de suivre un groupe pendant 10 jours est moins interressant. Nous somme un couple de 50 ans qui aime la nature. 😁🦋
Je suis très intéressé a faire un voyage en Afrique du sud pour le mois de srptembre 2020. Ma question est je part en voyage organisé ou je fais moi même mon ittineraire. Car organisé cest quand même cher $$$$ mais le côté sécurité me rassure. Jaimerais votre avis sur la sécurité en afrique du sud et si il est facile d'organiser des activités comme les visites dans les vignobles, le Cap et faire un safarie par nous même. Le prix dun voyage organisé et Le faire nous même quest qui est mieux. Cest certain de suivre un groupe pendant 10 jours est moins interressant. Nous somme un couple de 50 ans qui aime la nature. 😁🦋
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Bonjour à tous,
J'imagine que beaucoup d'entre vous ont été conquis par le parc du Masai Mara et/ou leur expérience safari chez Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot safari. mais je voudrais tout de même donner mon point de vue. Tout d'abord je suis une grande voyageuse, et particulièrement amoureuse de l'Afrique que j'ai déjà un peu parcouru avec mon conjoint (Zambie, Afrique du Sud, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibie...) En effet, je voudrais exprimer toute ma déception du Masai Mara comme du camp de Tony Crocetta, Melting Pot safari chez qui nous sommes allés l'an passé. Tout d'abord au sujet du parc : il est superbe, c'est indéniable. Mais quel lieu hautement touristique ! Je ne trouverai pas les mots pour décrire l'horreur que c'est d'être à 30 véhicules 4x4 alignés devant une chasse de lionne, encore moins l'encercler juste après sa prise alors que sa proie se débat encore vivante dans sa gueule... aucun respect pour la faune. De même, encercler un jeune léopard jouant avec sa petite proie, moment lors duquel j'avais dénombré plus de 50 véhicules, la plupart laissant tourner les moteurs... écoeurant, j'en ai détourné le regard comme l'appareil. Quelle catastrophe que la transformation de ce parc, merveille naturelle de l'Afrique, en haut plateau touristique.
Alors oui, j'ai adoré cet endroit sur la planète, mais non, je n'en ferai pas la "promotion" nulle part ni auprès de quiconque.
Ensuite je voulais également dire mon mécontentement au sujet du fameux camp de Tony Crocetta, Melting pot safari : par où commencer ? Nous avions réservé un véhicule à 4 avec deux amis, et pour le coup je n'ai rien à redire sur le côté agréable du véhicule privé (bien que cela ait un coût bien évidemment). Les fenêtres comme le véhicule en lui-même ne sont pas très bien adaptés à la photographie mais passons. Le voyage entre la pension chez les sœurs (pas mal au demeurant) et le camp s'est bien passé, hormis le fait que nous soyons arrivés un peu trop tardivement sur le camp. Résultat... "on partira en safari 1h plus tard aujourd'hui, car le chauffeur doit respecter ses heures de repos", parfait, avec les formalités du parc nous ne resterons dans le parc ce soir-là qu'une petite heure, le safari commence bien... Sur notre séjour de 12 j sur place nous avons vu de très belles choses. Tony n'était pas présent sur le camp, je ne sais l'ambiance qui y règne lors de sa présence mais celle-ci était plutôt froide lors de notre voyage. Sylvie, sa femme, nous regardait à peine, ne nous demandant même pas comment s'était passée la journée, la nuit ou le game (je crois qu'elle nous a parlé 1 fois durant le séjour, plus le jour de l'arrivée évidemment). Nous sommes inexistants... (si j'étais méchante je dirais que la somme a déjà été versée sur le compte en banque de Melting Pot). Les repas du soir sont, permettez-moi de le dire, une vaste blague : pas assez de dessert (hormis des fruits, mais les rares desserts travaillés sont par exemple au nombre de 10 lorsqu'il y a 18 convives) pour tout le monde, à peine assez de viande ou garniture. Pour peu que vous ayez, comme nous, la malchance de tomber sur un groupe de 15 personnes qui décident de zapper l'entrée, vous avez intérêt à vous dépêcher de prendre votre plat, sans quoi il se pourrait qu'il n'y en ait plus, et comme il n'y a pas de réassort... nous avons ceci dit toujours mangé à notre faim, mais parfois en nous servant nos assiettes à l'avance. Enfin je souhaite rectifier une chose sur la qualité des plats proposés : sérieusement, ce buffet est franchement plus que moyen, et très loin des qualités gustatives qu'on lui avait prêtées lors de mes diverses recherches sur internet avant mon départ (cf leur page facebook). Enfin passons le repas, après tout les avocats sont sublimes et nous ne sommes pas là pour manger avant toute chose. Au sujet de la tente, les vues sur la rivière sont très belles, le confort des lits très bien. Pas d'eau courante, des douches individuelles hors chambre et des toilettes sèches mais c'est l'Afrique, donc pas choqués à ce niveau. Je déplore que pour cette "modique" somme l'on ne m'ait pas prévenu qu'il n'y avait pas de savon (et non, désolée mais "je ne voyage pas avec mon savon" et, pour le prix, la savonnette dans la tente ne serait pas du luxe). Mais passons, la vue sur les hippos est fantastique. Ah oui aussi il faut préserver l'eau du Masai Mara (logique pour le coup) et, pour des questions d'hygiène, les sous-vêtements ne sont pas nettoyés par les hommes et femmes s'occupant du camp, normal aussi je trouve. Ah oui mais, quelle est cette petite plaquette à côté du lit ? Ah si, finalement pour une somme rondelette les sous-vêtements deviennent soudainement "nettoyables"...
Enfin mon majeur coup de gueule se portera sur l'essentiel : les games drives. En France on nous vend du rêve avec un safari spécial photo (qu'est-ce qui change finalement ? Une salle avec un peu plus de prises électriques ?), des guides particulièrement adaptés au regard photo (pas une évidence, mes excuses), des véhicules pouvant s'approcher des animaux et sortir des pistes... oui mais voilà : les guides sont soumis (normal) aux lois du parc, et traqués par les rangers de celui-ci en quête d'amendes pour les réfractaires. Résultat : dès qu'un véhicule blanc des rangers du parc est repéré, il nous faut laisser notre spot au profit d'une course-poursuite dans les herbes. Marrant une fois... Nous apprendrons le lendemain que le guide du 4x4 d'un autre groupe du camp s'est fait chopper, et doit aligner la modique somme de 100 dollars pour avoir enfreint la règle, somme qu'il demande négligemment aux voyageurs de sa voiture... parce que bien sûr, Melting Pot appâte les touristes en leur vendant du rêve, que les pauvres rangers tentent d'approcher, tout en étant sur leurs gardes puisque pour cela ils enfreignent la loi du parc... et ils enfreignent la loi du parc pour les beaux yeux de l'entreprise Crocetta, qui bien sûr ne prendra pour autant pas dans les caisses pour payer les infractions de leurs guides. En gros c'est donc "satisfaites les clients, mais sans vous prendre des prunes, sinon elles sont pour vous ou vous voyez directement avec les clients", sympa le patron ! Bref, il y eut l'an passé de longues discussions à ce sujet, notamment parmi les locataires du véhicule soumis à l'amende évidemment. Avec mon conjoint nous trouvons que ce ne sont pas des manières de faire, et nous avons été plus que déçus par cette attitude.
Je sais que nombreux sont les adorateurs de ce parc et/ou de cet organisme, eh bien vous avez peut-être eu plus de chance... ou vous êtes peut-être moins exigeants que nous. Avec le respect des règles, de la nature et des clients. Mais pour avoir voyagé dans une grande partie de l'Afrique australe, je peux vous dire que nous sommes personnellement revenus frustrés de cette expérience et que nous ne sommes pas prêts d'y remettre les pieds... A bon entendeur...
J'imagine que beaucoup d'entre vous ont été conquis par le parc du Masai Mara et/ou leur expérience safari chez Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot safari. mais je voudrais tout de même donner mon point de vue. Tout d'abord je suis une grande voyageuse, et particulièrement amoureuse de l'Afrique que j'ai déjà un peu parcouru avec mon conjoint (Zambie, Afrique du Sud, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibie...) En effet, je voudrais exprimer toute ma déception du Masai Mara comme du camp de Tony Crocetta, Melting Pot safari chez qui nous sommes allés l'an passé. Tout d'abord au sujet du parc : il est superbe, c'est indéniable. Mais quel lieu hautement touristique ! Je ne trouverai pas les mots pour décrire l'horreur que c'est d'être à 30 véhicules 4x4 alignés devant une chasse de lionne, encore moins l'encercler juste après sa prise alors que sa proie se débat encore vivante dans sa gueule... aucun respect pour la faune. De même, encercler un jeune léopard jouant avec sa petite proie, moment lors duquel j'avais dénombré plus de 50 véhicules, la plupart laissant tourner les moteurs... écoeurant, j'en ai détourné le regard comme l'appareil. Quelle catastrophe que la transformation de ce parc, merveille naturelle de l'Afrique, en haut plateau touristique.
Alors oui, j'ai adoré cet endroit sur la planète, mais non, je n'en ferai pas la "promotion" nulle part ni auprès de quiconque.
Ensuite je voulais également dire mon mécontentement au sujet du fameux camp de Tony Crocetta, Melting pot safari : par où commencer ? Nous avions réservé un véhicule à 4 avec deux amis, et pour le coup je n'ai rien à redire sur le côté agréable du véhicule privé (bien que cela ait un coût bien évidemment). Les fenêtres comme le véhicule en lui-même ne sont pas très bien adaptés à la photographie mais passons. Le voyage entre la pension chez les sœurs (pas mal au demeurant) et le camp s'est bien passé, hormis le fait que nous soyons arrivés un peu trop tardivement sur le camp. Résultat... "on partira en safari 1h plus tard aujourd'hui, car le chauffeur doit respecter ses heures de repos", parfait, avec les formalités du parc nous ne resterons dans le parc ce soir-là qu'une petite heure, le safari commence bien... Sur notre séjour de 12 j sur place nous avons vu de très belles choses. Tony n'était pas présent sur le camp, je ne sais l'ambiance qui y règne lors de sa présence mais celle-ci était plutôt froide lors de notre voyage. Sylvie, sa femme, nous regardait à peine, ne nous demandant même pas comment s'était passée la journée, la nuit ou le game (je crois qu'elle nous a parlé 1 fois durant le séjour, plus le jour de l'arrivée évidemment). Nous sommes inexistants... (si j'étais méchante je dirais que la somme a déjà été versée sur le compte en banque de Melting Pot). Les repas du soir sont, permettez-moi de le dire, une vaste blague : pas assez de dessert (hormis des fruits, mais les rares desserts travaillés sont par exemple au nombre de 10 lorsqu'il y a 18 convives) pour tout le monde, à peine assez de viande ou garniture. Pour peu que vous ayez, comme nous, la malchance de tomber sur un groupe de 15 personnes qui décident de zapper l'entrée, vous avez intérêt à vous dépêcher de prendre votre plat, sans quoi il se pourrait qu'il n'y en ait plus, et comme il n'y a pas de réassort... nous avons ceci dit toujours mangé à notre faim, mais parfois en nous servant nos assiettes à l'avance. Enfin je souhaite rectifier une chose sur la qualité des plats proposés : sérieusement, ce buffet est franchement plus que moyen, et très loin des qualités gustatives qu'on lui avait prêtées lors de mes diverses recherches sur internet avant mon départ (cf leur page facebook). Enfin passons le repas, après tout les avocats sont sublimes et nous ne sommes pas là pour manger avant toute chose. Au sujet de la tente, les vues sur la rivière sont très belles, le confort des lits très bien. Pas d'eau courante, des douches individuelles hors chambre et des toilettes sèches mais c'est l'Afrique, donc pas choqués à ce niveau. Je déplore que pour cette "modique" somme l'on ne m'ait pas prévenu qu'il n'y avait pas de savon (et non, désolée mais "je ne voyage pas avec mon savon" et, pour le prix, la savonnette dans la tente ne serait pas du luxe). Mais passons, la vue sur les hippos est fantastique. Ah oui aussi il faut préserver l'eau du Masai Mara (logique pour le coup) et, pour des questions d'hygiène, les sous-vêtements ne sont pas nettoyés par les hommes et femmes s'occupant du camp, normal aussi je trouve. Ah oui mais, quelle est cette petite plaquette à côté du lit ? Ah si, finalement pour une somme rondelette les sous-vêtements deviennent soudainement "nettoyables"...
Enfin mon majeur coup de gueule se portera sur l'essentiel : les games drives. En France on nous vend du rêve avec un safari spécial photo (qu'est-ce qui change finalement ? Une salle avec un peu plus de prises électriques ?), des guides particulièrement adaptés au regard photo (pas une évidence, mes excuses), des véhicules pouvant s'approcher des animaux et sortir des pistes... oui mais voilà : les guides sont soumis (normal) aux lois du parc, et traqués par les rangers de celui-ci en quête d'amendes pour les réfractaires. Résultat : dès qu'un véhicule blanc des rangers du parc est repéré, il nous faut laisser notre spot au profit d'une course-poursuite dans les herbes. Marrant une fois... Nous apprendrons le lendemain que le guide du 4x4 d'un autre groupe du camp s'est fait chopper, et doit aligner la modique somme de 100 dollars pour avoir enfreint la règle, somme qu'il demande négligemment aux voyageurs de sa voiture... parce que bien sûr, Melting Pot appâte les touristes en leur vendant du rêve, que les pauvres rangers tentent d'approcher, tout en étant sur leurs gardes puisque pour cela ils enfreignent la loi du parc... et ils enfreignent la loi du parc pour les beaux yeux de l'entreprise Crocetta, qui bien sûr ne prendra pour autant pas dans les caisses pour payer les infractions de leurs guides. En gros c'est donc "satisfaites les clients, mais sans vous prendre des prunes, sinon elles sont pour vous ou vous voyez directement avec les clients", sympa le patron ! Bref, il y eut l'an passé de longues discussions à ce sujet, notamment parmi les locataires du véhicule soumis à l'amende évidemment. Avec mon conjoint nous trouvons que ce ne sont pas des manières de faire, et nous avons été plus que déçus par cette attitude.
Je sais que nombreux sont les adorateurs de ce parc et/ou de cet organisme, eh bien vous avez peut-être eu plus de chance... ou vous êtes peut-être moins exigeants que nous. Avec le respect des règles, de la nature et des clients. Mais pour avoir voyagé dans une grande partie de l'Afrique australe, je peux vous dire que nous sommes personnellement revenus frustrés de cette expérience et que nous ne sommes pas prêts d'y remettre les pieds... A bon entendeur...
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
Hi,
I’m heading to Angola for two weeks starting mid-April and I’d like to rent a car to explore the country, but not a 4x4 to keep my budget in check. I plan to mostly stay in the western part and go as far as the Namibian border. Is it possible to drive in Iona Park without a 4x4, or to get to Kalendula or Piedra Negras? Also, is the Lubango–Huambo–Kuito–Malanje route doable in a city car? Lastly, do gas stations accept Visa?
Thanks for your feedback and tips!
Hello
Now that the Kruger part is (almost) wrapped up, I’m looking at the "Cape region" section.
The idea of spending 2 days (well, more like 2 nights and 1.5 days) in the Cederberg is really tempting 😎.
I’ve reread the posts about it—more or less (actually, more less than more)—and I still have quite a few questions: - Where’s the best area to stay? Initially, I was looking at Kagga Kama, but I’m not sure if it’s worth the cost (or the trip, for that matter), or maybe Mount Ceder? Or somewhere else (without driving 6 or 8 hours from CT 😉)? The plan is to get there in a sedan (if possible), see some beautiful landscapes, and do one or two hikes (nothing too tough 😛). - I read that you need a permit to hike there... where do you buy it? (At the entrance, like in Kruger? 🤪) - Is October a good time for the weather (theoretically...)?
Now that the Kruger part is (almost) wrapped up, I’m looking at the "Cape region" section.
The idea of spending 2 days (well, more like 2 nights and 1.5 days) in the Cederberg is really tempting 😎.
I’ve reread the posts about it—more or less (actually, more less than more)—and I still have quite a few questions: - Where’s the best area to stay? Initially, I was looking at Kagga Kama, but I’m not sure if it’s worth the cost (or the trip, for that matter), or maybe Mount Ceder? Or somewhere else (without driving 6 or 8 hours from CT 😉)? The plan is to get there in a sedan (if possible), see some beautiful landscapes, and do one or two hikes (nothing too tough 😛). - I read that you need a permit to hike there... where do you buy it? (At the entrance, like in Kruger? 🤪) - Is October a good time for the weather (theoretically...)?







