Bonjour,
Préparant une randonnée de plusieurs mois 😎, j'attendais avec impatience le Salon du Tourisme de Paris (mars 2017) et en ressors très déçue. Mon dernier passage au Salon remonte à plus de 10 ans : il s'est sacrément appauvri ! 😕
En gros, on y trouve 98% des stands pour acheter un voyage organisé et 2% pour équiper les individuels (j'oublie les stands de massage et autres hors-sujet).
Alors quel est "notre" salon commercial à nous, les globe-trotters à pattes ou en vélo, ni en croisière ni en jeep ? ABM est parfait pour se tuyauter mais pas pour s'équiper. Où vous rendez-vous svp ? 😛
Concrètement, je souhaitais :
-- toucher et tester les matelas pneu Klymit ou concurrents proches, introuvables à Paris, et en acheter un sur place. Pas vu ! J'ai du me résigner à acheter en aveugle sur internet ...
-- parler à un office de tourisme danois, vu qu'il n'y en a pas en France, Pas vu !
-- Aucun stand "Allemagne" non plus.
-- Ni sur l'Iran (y'en avait un ... autrefois),
-- parler à des blogueurs habitués aux longs voyages à pieds : aucun blogueur rencontré ne voyageait ainsi.
-- À la conférence sur l'art de dresser sa liste de voyage, j'espérais que soit abordée (ou frôlée) la démarche MUL (= marche ultra-légère), nada ! Ça sentait le bagage de 15 kg.
-- retrouver les stands de concepteurs de chariots pour traîner son barda (c'est à ce salon que je les avais découverts, même si je n'en avais pas besoin à l'époque) : absents au bataillon !
-- acheter un chargeur solaire pour smartphone, pas faisable ! (Le Vx C en montrait qquns, sans démo, ... je venais voir les concurrents).
-- voir des nouveautés concernant les T-shirts thermiques ? Pas vu.
-- etc. Rien de ma liste de courses n'était visible ou testable. 😠
Parmi une poignée de micro-stands, trônait juste un "gros" stand du Vieux Campeur. Pas besoin d'aller au Salon pour les voir ! Surtout à Paris. Et ils ne vendent pas toutes les marques ni tous les concepts, loin de là. D'ailleurs les exposants eux-mêmes se plaignaient du pauvre choix offert au Salon.
J'appelle au secours les globe-trotters "pedibus" ou à vélo : à quel salon allez-vous (Paris, Lyon, Bruxelles, ...), pour toucher et tester votre matos de camping et de rando, au lieu de vous limiter au duo Decathlon-VieuxCampeur ou de devoir acheter en aveugle sur internet ?
Merci par avance pour vos conseils ! 😉
Christine
Préparant une randonnée de plusieurs mois 😎, j'attendais avec impatience le Salon du Tourisme de Paris (mars 2017) et en ressors très déçue. Mon dernier passage au Salon remonte à plus de 10 ans : il s'est sacrément appauvri !
c'est le salon du Tourisme pas forcément celui de la Randonnée et une majorité de personnes qui partent en voyage n'ont pas envie de faire de la randonnée
À la conférence sur l'art de dresser sa liste de voyage, j'espérais que soit abordée (ou frôlée) la démarche MUL (= marche ultra-légère), nada ! Ça sentait le bagage de 15 kg.
je vais me répèter mais pourquoi lorsqu'on part faire de la randonnée il faut être obligatoirement "MUL" ?
Je fais de la randonnée c'est pas spécifiquement pour acheter tel ou tel type de matériel , je fais de la randonnée pour m'évader par l'esprit, par exercice de la liberté bref un peu par esprit philosophique.
Parce que pour faire de la randonnée "MUL" c'est se conformer aux discours du marketing et à une forme de bien-pensance à la limite snob...
Randonner c'est mettre un pied devant l'autre c'est l'appel du grand large et des horizons lointains tel un navigateur solitaire
Salut Matthews,
Existe-t-il un "Salon de la randonnée" ? Si oui, tu as la réponse à ma question !!! 😎 Merci ! Je vérifierai tout-à-l'heure. Ce serait super.
Quant à la démarche MUL, j'ai été franchement "mule" pendant plus de 20 ans. Du genre à partir avec 20 kg et à revenir avec 25 ! Au 6e lumbago 🤪, faut bien évoluer un peu.
Je ne le vis pas comme un truc à la mode ni ne piste chaque gramme (un régime est toujours le plus rentable, côté kilos 😄). Par ecemple, un matelas Klymit n'est pas le plus léger du marché, mais il est confortable et pèse 60% moins lourd que le mien...
Je cherche juste des astuces comme compromis "confort / vertèbres".
À +, après vérif ! Amitiés.
Re-salut Matthews,
Hélas, 😕 j'ai tapé sur internet "salon de la randonnée", il me renvoie à la 2e moitié du même salon. En effet, le "Salon du tourisme" se poursuivait sous le même toit par le salon "Destination nature".
C'est lui qui hébergeait :
-- le Vieux Campeur,
-- une poignée (pas plus) de micro-stands sur le même sujet, pas assez pour parler d'un "Salon de la randonnée"
-- plus un nombre incroyable de stands sur la santé : vente de graines germées, d'appareils de massage, de médecines douces et autres palliatifs au grand âge.
En parlant avec les vendeurs, il semble que louer ici un stand soit devenu si cher que les fournisseurs des randonneurs ne s'y montrent plus 😕, sauf le VxC qui se fait des super-bénéf. 😄
Peut-être connais-tu un autre salon "de randonnée" qui l'a remplacé ?
Merci en tous cas pour ta réponse.
Bonne soirée ! 🙂
Rassure-toi, je randonne aussi pour m'évader l'esprit ! 😎 Et je l'évade encore mieux loin des foules et des infrastructures, d'où un besoin d'autonomie ... tout en ménageant mes vertèbres. 😛
A+
En parlant avec les vendeurs, il semble que louer ici un stand soit devenu si cher que les fournisseurs des randonneurs ne s'y montrent plus 😕, sauf le VxC qui se fait des super-bénéf. 😄
merci pour l'info eh oui je comprends il faut dire que acheter du matériel ça ne fait pas des sis gros bénéfices que ça.
Pourtant il y a des gros détaillants ( malheureusement américains souvent ) et fabricants de tente, de vêtements qui font du business
Salut Dominic, 🙂
Oui, c'est sûr, les 2 chaînes ne sont pas de la même taille. Ni ne visent la même gamme de qualité. Ni ne vendent au même prix les quelques produits comparables. Et on est plus souvent servi par un expert aux VxC.
Mais je déteste les monopoles et souhaite comparer avant d'acheter + tester de visu (et de tactu) + payer cash et non sur internet + avoir un lieu physique pour le SAV.
Le Salon aurait proposé cette mise en concurrence. Tant pis ! 😐
Amicalement, 🙂
Christine
Ben ouais, c'est ce que j'ai vu ... ça a décliné.
Ça fait plus de 5 ans que j'ai été au salon ABM (Aventuriers du Bout du Monde). 😇
Si toi (ou un autre lecteur) y êtes allé récemment, ont-ils introduit qq stands de vente professionnelle de matos ?
À l'époque, on pouvait juste y revendre d'occasion son propre matos, si on était adhérent.
Bonne soirée ! 🙂
Chr.
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Bonjour à tous,
Je pars le lundi 3 août pour ma toute première grande randonnée en itinérance : le GR223 de Coutances au Mont Saint-Michel, sur 6-7 jours (~18-22 km/jour), en solo.
Je cherche des conseils de gens qui connaissent bien ce tronçon (Coutances → Regnéville-sur-Mer→ Hauteville sur mer → Bréhal → Granville → Genêts → traversée de la baie) :
Hébergements pas chers : je galère un peu à trouver des gîtes d'étape abordables (beaucoup de ce que je trouve en ligne, ce sont des locations de vacances chères, pas vraiment adaptées à un randonneur solo). Si vous avez des bonnes adresses (gîtes d'étape, chambres d'hôtes randonneurs, campings sympas), je suis preneuse !
Traversée de la baie : des retours d'expérience sur les guides/prestataires au départ de Genêts pour la traversée finale ?
Conseils généraux pour un premier trek en itinérance : ce que vous auriez aimé savoir avant votre première fois, pièges à éviter, etc.
Hi,
We’re planning to do the 4-day trek from Mestia to Ushguli without an agency. The descriptions mention that there are accommodations at each stop, but we can’t find any details about them. Has anyone got info or feedback on this route?
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028.
I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄).
This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
We're planning to trek in Peru and Bolivia and would love to find some local agencies.
If you know any, could you share details on prices and, of course, the names of the agencies?
Which trek would you recommend?
Elocine
I'm heading out on a fully self-sufficient trek in Morocco (10 days) from Imilchil to Aghbalou.
Can I find screw-on gas canisters (Coleman, Primus) in Marrakech (any addresses?) or in villages between Imilchil and Aghbalou?
If not, are Butagaz canisters for camping gas (small 230g size) available?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello, I’d like to embark on a little trip in my home country, Switzerland. I’ll start walking from La Cure, heading toward Le Noirmont first, then I’ll improvise my route—but it’ll probably follow the French border... at least as far as Lac de Joux.
I’ll decide day by day how much farther to go after that. My goal is to stay in nature as much as possible, wander around for as long as I can, and restock food in villages or towns along the way.
I’m thinking of mostly camping, but we’ll see if I end up in a hotel or another campsite depending on my route.
I’d love to reach La Chaux-de-Fonds on foot... maybe even Delémont.
The whole thing should take about a week, give or take.
I’ll be bringing my dog, and I’m preparing for this as soon as I’m ready.
Any tips to make sure everything goes smoothly for us? Things I should know—or avoid? What about shepherds with their flocks of sheep? And isn’t hunting season open right now?
I’m not sure if what I’m planning is even doable, which is why I’m asking around.
This’ll be my first time doing something like this—wandering in nature *and* with a dog. I’m really excited for this adventure... and I need it. Thanks!
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries!
Claire and Albert
Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike.
It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
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I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge.
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In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details:
We arrive in early August and leave in early September.
We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery!
We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat?
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Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations.
Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July.
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Can anyone give me some info on this?
Thanks!
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there?
A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions?
For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip...
Thanks for your tips!
Have a great day,
Anie, Toulouse
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice?
Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish.
I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips?
Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina?
At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands.
Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili.
Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?)
There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4.
If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit.
if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
