http://www.udonmap.com/udon_thani_city_map.html
Site internet sur l'Issan (Thaïlande)
by Soho
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Voici un site internet sur L'Issan (en Anglais) avec des cartes sur certaines villes de l'Issan et une multitude d'infos.
http://www.udonmap.com/udon_thani_city_map.html
http://www.udonmap.com/udon_thani_city_map.html
Merci Soho, super le site d'autant plus que je connais un peu l'Isan et j'ai l'intention d'y retouner en novembre
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Le site est pal mal car on y trouve des cartes très bien détaillées, des hotels avec les prix (très atractifs 😉, n'oublions pas que l'Issan est encore peut touristique), tout les moyens de locomotion et les adresses de location, les horaires des trains et avions .......
Il est un peut plus dédié à la ville d'Udon Thani et sa région mais je pense que pour pas mal de gens qui veulent découvrir l'Issan c'est un bon début. En plus ce qui ne gache rien le site est très bien fait et les cartes avec les noms en Anglais et en Thaï sont les bienvenues!
Il est un peut plus dédié à la ville d'Udon Thani et sa région mais je pense que pour pas mal de gens qui veulent découvrir l'Issan c'est un bon début. En plus ce qui ne gache rien le site est très bien fait et les cartes avec les noms en Anglais et en Thaï sont les bienvenues!
Oui c'est ce que je viens de voir, je connais bien la région de Khon-Kean j'y suis aller deux fois vers là-bas, un jour je suis arrivé par hasard dans un village qui s'appelle Kuchinarai j'en ai garder un très bon souvenir de la gentillesse de ces gens, tu connais ce village .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Non je ne connais pas.
Je connais plus la région située sur l'axe Udon Thani Nong Khai et en particulié les villages situé au sud d'Udon Thani car ma copine est originaire d'un de ces villages. Lors de ma prochaine visite là bas je compte bien explorer au maximum l'Isan car je pars pour 5 semaines (avec 15 jours au Laos) j'aurais donc le temps de me ballader!
Super en 5 semaines tu as le temps de bien voir, déjà que tu connais bien par là .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
L'avantage c'est qu'avec ma copine je sors des sentiers battus pour visiter vu qu'elle connait parfaitement la région! Par exemple en motobike elle utilise les chemins situés sur les digues entre les rizières pour se ballader de village en village ce qui me permet vraiment de découvrir la Thaïlande d'une toute autre façon.
Attention à ceux qui veulent faire la même chose en motobike, c'est assé dangereux et il faut connaître d'ailleur c'est toujours ma copine qui conduit et de plus il n'y a aucune indication routière (ce sont des chemins pour les bufles et les paysans).
Oui tu as raison de prévenir que ce n'est pas évident de sortir en motobyke, car pas de panneau d'indication .
çi-joint un lien pour le Laos ci ça peut t'aider,
http://laos.luangprabang.free.fr/namtha.htm, pas mal comme site pour le Laos .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Merci pour le site sur le Laos
Salut Soho,
Toi qui connais bien l'Isaan, as-tu entendu parler du "Swiss village". Un village dont une grande partie de la population féminine est mariée avec des suisses et qui a recréé l'ambiance "village suisse". D'après les infos que j'ai, il semble qu'il se situe près de Roi-Et.
Merci d'avance
Toi qui connais bien l'Isaan, as-tu entendu parler du "Swiss village". Un village dont une grande partie de la population féminine est mariée avec des suisses et qui a recréé l'ambiance "village suisse". D'après les infos que j'ai, il semble qu'il se situe près de Roi-Et.
Merci d'avance
La vie quotidienne d'une famille thailsacienne
Salut Thailsacien,
Le village est Baan Jarn, district (amphoe) Selaphum, dans la province de Roi-Et. C'est a 20/30 km de la ville de Roi-Et.
Je n'y suis jamais alle mais j'en ai entendu parle a Roi-Et 😕. Les "bruits" disent que la prosperite du village vient essentiellement de la prostitution et que la majorite des rencontres Thaies-suisses se sont faites dans les bars, en Thailande ou en Suisse. Je ne sais vraiment pas si les "bruits" sont fondes ou non.
Le village est Baan Jarn, district (amphoe) Selaphum, dans la province de Roi-Et. C'est a 20/30 km de la ville de Roi-Et.
Je n'y suis jamais alle mais j'en ai entendu parle a Roi-Et 😕. Les "bruits" disent que la prosperite du village vient essentiellement de la prostitution et que la majorite des rencontres Thaies-suisses se sont faites dans les bars, en Thailande ou en Suisse. Je ne sais vraiment pas si les "bruits" sont fondes ou non.
J'avais trouvé ce nom, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3907581.stm
Le problème, c'est qu'il ne figure sur aucune carte, même en essayant "d'adapter" l'orthographe. On verra bien, je vais essayer d'en savoir plus une fois sur place le mois prochain.
C'est surtout la curiosité du site qui me donne envie d'y passer. Maintenant prostitution ou non, difficile à dire. Dans quelle mesure une femme qui choisit d'épouser un suisse (ou autre européen) pour garantir à sa famille un revenu décent peut-elle être qualifiée de prostituée ? Ceci est un autre débat qui ne se limite pas à ce village, ni même à la Thaïlande d'ailleurs.
Le problème, c'est qu'il ne figure sur aucune carte, même en essayant "d'adapter" l'orthographe. On verra bien, je vais essayer d'en savoir plus une fois sur place le mois prochain.
C'est surtout la curiosité du site qui me donne envie d'y passer. Maintenant prostitution ou non, difficile à dire. Dans quelle mesure une femme qui choisit d'épouser un suisse (ou autre européen) pour garantir à sa famille un revenu décent peut-elle être qualifiée de prostituée ? Ceci est un autre débat qui ne se limite pas à ce village, ni même à la Thaïlande d'ailleurs.
La vie quotidienne d'une famille thailsacienne
Malheureusement je ne connais pas le "Swiss village" et c'est d'ailleur la première fois que j'en entend parler. Mais d'après la réponse de Khrapka je vais essayer d'aller faire un tour dans ce village lors de mon prochain séjour.
Pour la région que je connais bien autour d'Udon Thani, je n'ai jamais rencontré de Farang marié à une Thaï habitant un petit village (il faut dire aussi qu'en général il n'y a pas d'eau courante dans ces villages !!!)
Sur Udon Thani même il y a quelques Farang qui vivent là, principalement des Anglais.
Selaphum est sur la route de Yasothon. Tu trouveras quelqu'un la-bas ou a Roi-Et qui te donnera le chemin pour baan jarn.
Loin de moi l'idee qu'epouser un(e) etranger(e) soit de la prostitution! Je serais tres tres mal place pour penser cela ayant une femme filipina 🙂 Ce qui se disait a Roi-Et: les filles de ce village sont des "puu ying khai tua" ("femmes qui vendent leur corps") qui ont rencontre leur mari au "travail". Je ne sait pas si c'est vrai. C'est peut-etre de la jalousie car le village semble riche. De plus, je ne juge pas cette situation car chaque etre humain a sa propre histoire et sans connaitre cette histoire, difficile de se faire une opinion.
Loin de moi l'idee qu'epouser un(e) etranger(e) soit de la prostitution! Je serais tres tres mal place pour penser cela ayant une femme filipina 🙂 Ce qui se disait a Roi-Et: les filles de ce village sont des "puu ying khai tua" ("femmes qui vendent leur corps") qui ont rencontre leur mari au "travail". Je ne sait pas si c'est vrai. C'est peut-etre de la jalousie car le village semble riche. De plus, je ne juge pas cette situation car chaque etre humain a sa propre histoire et sans connaitre cette histoire, difficile de se faire une opinion.
Hop là! Y'a moyen de se faire une fondue au fromage dans ce village😉.
Ca joue ou bien!😎
Je n'y suis jamais alle mais j'en ai entendu parle a Roi-Et 😕. Les "bruits" disent que la prosperite du village vient essentiellement de la prostitution et que la majorite des rencontres Thaies-suisses se sont faites dans les bars, en Thailande ou en Suisse. Je ne sais vraiment pas si les "bruits" sont fondes ou non.
khrapka .. c'est vrai, , et la presse n'est du tout bien venue, , mais l'architecture est plus que drôle, , ( voir les faux chalets montagnarde suisse, , c'est drôle ( mais il ne faut pas jeter la pierre au suisse, , je crois que se sont des suisses qui ont démarrer cela mais beaucoup de germanophobes sont installer l'a
ça vaut le détour que pour ceux qui veulent voir de l'insolite, ,
Pour visiter quelque chose de plus vrai, , aller au village des tortues , , 2, 000 dit on? je ne les ait pas contee, , c'est le village tao ban kok les tortues vivent en armonie avec les habitants, , @ying
Pour visiter quelque chose de plus vrai, , aller au village des tortues , , 2, 000 dit on? je ne les ait pas contee, , c'est le village tao ban kok les tortues vivent en armonie avec les habitants, , @ying

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d'autant plus que je connais un peu l'Isan et j'ai l'intention d'y retouner en novembre
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un petit nouveau viens de naitre,
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sans pretention, rien a vendre,
on n'y parle QUE de l'Issan et du Laos, ( accessoirement de la Thailande), le mot "prostitution" en est bannit ainsi que les discutions stériles sur ceci ou cela.....
les mauvais coucheurs 😠, les paillards, les lourdeaux, ne sont pas invités, 😏
voyageurs bienvenus ! pour vous renseigner et pour vos contributions par votre savoir ou vécu
😉
🙂
un petit nouveau viens de naitre,
http://www.assofi.org/forum
sans pretention, rien a vendre,
on n'y parle QUE de l'Issan et du Laos, ( accessoirement de la Thailande), le mot "prostitution" en est bannit ainsi que les discutions stériles sur ceci ou cela.....
les mauvais coucheurs 😠, les paillards, les lourdeaux, ne sont pas invités, 😏
voyageurs bienvenus ! pour vous renseigner et pour vos contributions par votre savoir ou vécu
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My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
Hi everyone,
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled. We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary. We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1** Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2** Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3** Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4** Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5** Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6** Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7** Sidemen
**Day 8** Sidemen
**Day 9** Sidemen
**Day 10** Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11** Gili Air
**Day 12** Gili Air
**Day 13** Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14** Ubud
**Day 15** Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family? Does it feel too packed or well-balanced? Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?
Thanks so much for your tips and experiences!
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled. We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary. We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1** Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2** Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3** Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4** Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5** Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6** Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7** Sidemen
**Day 8** Sidemen
**Day 9** Sidemen
**Day 10** Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11** Gili Air
**Day 12** Gili Air
**Day 13** Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14** Ubud
**Day 15** Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family? Does it feel too packed or well-balanced? Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?
Thanks so much for your tips and experiences!





