Tandem: qu'en pensez-vous?
by Claisse
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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BERNARD "Aucun conseil n'est plus loyal que celui qui se donne sur le navire en péril.
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😉 bsoir c est bien ce que je pensais !!!!lol bonne soirèe , merci
BERNARD "Aucun conseil n'est plus loyal que celui qui se donne sur le navire en péril.
Voiture : Invention ingénieuse, permettant de contenir 110 chevaux dans le moteur et un âne au volant.
Pour nous (mon épouse et moi-même), le tandem, c'est le rêve. Nous sommes membre du CCI et passons toutes nos vacances en cyclo-camping (Grèce, Sud-Ouest, ...).
Nous avons (à mon avis) le top du matos: un tandem BMC (marque suisse). Pas un rayon à resserrer, pas u¨le mindre voile de la roue arrière. Et pourtant c'est du 200 kg de poids total roulant.
Ne t'arrête pas à un témoignage. Essaie en un bon. Bonne chance.
Philippe 74 Thonon
Ne t'arrête pas à un témoignage. Essaie en un bon. Bonne chance.
Philippe 74 Thonon
😉 bonjour ok merci il y as bmk qui fait des bons tandems !!as tu des tuyaux a me communiquer !!merci .sportivement .BERNARD 😊
BERNARD "Aucun conseil n'est plus loyal que celui qui se donne sur le navire en péril.
Voiture : Invention ingénieuse, permettant de contenir 110 chevaux dans le moteur et un âne au volant.
BMK a voir aussi ... il y a un fossé entre les tandems de loisirs sortie piste cyclable du dimanche et ceux de randonnée bâtie pour la charge sur de longues distances (cadre rigide et léger, roue arrière renforcée, frein qui ... freinent 200 kg durant de longue descente...). La note n'est pas la même souvent du simple au quadruple voir plus. le tandem berthoud révolution que j'utilise sans soucis est à 3000 € neuf et c'est d'un bon rapport qualité prix. En premier prix, bon en usage régulier il y Lapierre et KHS a près de 2000 €. Après tout dépend de l'usage que tu veux en faire. Le marché de l'occasion peut être aussi une solution il y a de belles machines increvables à 1000 - 1200 €. C'est ce que j'ai fait.
😉 c est vrai mais les ocas en tandem ca ne court pas les rues !!!je me suis mis a la rando avec remorque c est tout neuf , mais j avoue qu en tandem ca doit etre super simpa !! a tres bientot et merci (si par hasard tu avais un tuyau n hesites pas !previens moi ) 🤪
BERNARD "Aucun conseil n'est plus loyal que celui qui se donne sur le navire en péril.
Voiture : Invention ingénieuse, permettant de contenir 110 chevaux dans le moteur et un âne au volant.
Et là, il faut faire un tour, entre autre un Catin ou un Follis abordable
Pour des sorties du dimanche c'est surement ok. Pour de la rando chargée... pas sur.
Pour des conseils on revient de 1400km de tandem chargé avec un Cannondale MT3000 modèle de l'année 1993. Rien à redire! On a rien brisé malgré un accident de route (dérappage dans un tournant où l'asphalte changait en petites roches non tappées... la mort). J'ai par contre croisé un gars en tandem (modèle Gitane je crois) qui changait un ou + rayons chaque jour.
On avait entre 25-30kg de charge plus notre poid (soit 125kg donc plus de 150kg total). Avec les pneus Marathon Plus 25mm gonflés à environ 90psi.
Comme tu dis, les occasions sont difficiles à trouver. Mais je crois que ça vaut la peine d'attendre et d'acheter quelque chose qui nous fera pas hair le tandem!
Bon magasinage! JTM
Pour des conseils on revient de 1400km de tandem chargé avec un Cannondale MT3000 modèle de l'année 1993. Rien à redire! On a rien brisé malgré un accident de route (dérappage dans un tournant où l'asphalte changait en petites roches non tappées... la mort). J'ai par contre croisé un gars en tandem (modèle Gitane je crois) qui changait un ou + rayons chaque jour.
On avait entre 25-30kg de charge plus notre poid (soit 125kg donc plus de 150kg total). Avec les pneus Marathon Plus 25mm gonflés à environ 90psi.
Comme tu dis, les occasions sont difficiles à trouver. Mais je crois que ça vaut la peine d'attendre et d'acheter quelque chose qui nous fera pas hair le tandem!
Bon magasinage! JTM
😉 bonjour j avais repèrè celui la http://www.mbk-cycles.com/2009/gamme-vtt-loisirs/stonecruiser-tandem je ne sais pas ce que ca vaut ??
BERNARD "Aucun conseil n'est plus loyal que celui qui se donne sur le navire en péril.
Voiture : Invention ingénieuse, permettant de contenir 110 chevaux dans le moteur et un âne au volant.
J'oubliais, à mon avis, si vous êtes chargés, c'est minimum 24 vitesse. Et encore, je prendrais 27 avoir le choix (lire: acheter neuf).
bonjour
nous avons ce tandem depuis deux ans, pas de problème particulier (aucun pour être exact). C'est vrai que nous ne l'utilisons guère pour de la rando mais surtout en sortie "dominicale" + déplacements urbains.
Attention ce n'est pas un vrai VTT....par conséquent, la fourche (télescopique de base donc pas géniale) est bloquée et nous avons changé les pneus car les crampons sur le goudron.... Le guidon papillon est une "connerie"...je remettrai celui d'origine.
Les patins sont à changer régilèrement, le freinage est son point faible, undisque aurait été mieux. Les pédaliers sont des Truavit (gage de qualité semblerait il) AMHA rapport qualité/prix pour la découverte du tandem difficile de trouver mieux....
et si tu habites sur le 83 (La Londe-les-Maures): http://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/66333186.htm?ca=18_s
voilà, voilou, bonne journée!
nous avons ce tandem depuis deux ans, pas de problème particulier (aucun pour être exact). C'est vrai que nous ne l'utilisons guère pour de la rando mais surtout en sortie "dominicale" + déplacements urbains.
Attention ce n'est pas un vrai VTT....par conséquent, la fourche (télescopique de base donc pas géniale) est bloquée et nous avons changé les pneus car les crampons sur le goudron.... Le guidon papillon est une "connerie"...je remettrai celui d'origine.
Les patins sont à changer régilèrement, le freinage est son point faible, undisque aurait été mieux. Les pédaliers sont des Truavit (gage de qualité semblerait il) AMHA rapport qualité/prix pour la découverte du tandem difficile de trouver mieux....
et si tu habites sur le 83 (La Londe-les-Maures): http://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/66333186.htm?ca=18_s
voilà, voilou, bonne journée!
Bonjour.
Je suis pratiquant en tandem jusqu'à hier, (santé de mon épouse)
Il semblerait que les tandems que vous indiquez ne correspondent pas au type même du tandem de grande randonnée .Il faut rester sur des marques qui ont fait leurs preuves telles que catin, follis, berthou.cannondal...
Je propose un FOLLIS en très bon état sur "le bon coin"si la taille convient?ce genre de tandem vous emmènera loin et sans soucis
http://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/61050172.htm
Bigre c' est quoi ce truc ! Le tandem de Darkvador ? Je ne sais pas si "Largement fait ses preuves" est adapté pour ce tandem du 22 ème siecle ?
Teyo75
Teyo75
ça m'étonne qu'un touring Tamdem Cannondale tout équipé aligne tout au plus 20Kg sur la balance ( KOGA : 29, 2Kg ) auquel cas cela doit se faire au détriment de la fiabilité et de la rigidité du cadre .... on abordera pas la sécurité avec le freinage patin et le niveau d'équipement ; le Cannondale c'est léger dans tous les sens du terme.
Pour ce qui est des preuves du KOGA aux quatres coins du monde , chacuns pourra juger , ça laisse rêveur.
@+ Halixe
@+ Halixe
C'est vrai que je tire un peu le raisonnement mais 29.2 kg pour un tandem avec un cadre en alu cela commence à faire et des composants me semblent pas indispensable en rando : suspension arrière, antivol de cadre, béquille avant... c'est sûr ils n'ont rien oubliés . Je tire les 23 kg de mon tandem en acier CRMO entièrement équipé (garde boue, éclairage, suspension avant et porte sacoche avant arrière compris) et je trouve que cela commence à faire beaucoup dans les côtes.
Tu prends un Lapierre route qui sort à 16.9 kg + 2 kg de porte bagage + garde boue+2 lampes tu es à près de 10 kg de différence... il fera peut être pas un tour du monde dans les conditions du koga mais sur nos routes je pense que c'est largement suffisant.
Mais c'est vrai qu'il en jette ce tandem.
Ps :Les cannondales font aussi des tours du monde.
Je répète ce que j'ai déjà dit dans une discussion il y a peu : avec mon fiancé, nous avons acheté un touring tandem cannondale en mars dernier. Il me semble bien que tout équipé, il faisait 20kg et il est solide : nous avons entre autre, fait 1400km cet été entre Colmar et Rome avec remorque bien chargée (chargements+cyclistes= entre 170 et 190kg) et nous avons eu absolument aucun problème : même pas un rayon cassé ou une roue crevée. Bien sûr, nous n'avons pas fait trop de "hors-piste" mais nous avons eu quelques pistes mal (voire non) goudronnée, des trottoirs à descendre ou à monter, une chute, une descente de 1600m sur 50km (malojapass-lac de Côme), une chute, etc : nous n'avons pas ménagé notre monture.
Au début de nos recherches, nous pensions mettre moins de 2000€ mais nous avons été séduit par le cannondale et nous regrettons pas d'y avoir mis le prix.
Le poids n'est pas garant de solidité, voir les vélo chinois...C'est plus la qualité des matériaux et le soin lors du montage qui font la robustesse, plus que la masse. le koga est un super tandem, mais énergivore...Un espéce de hummer à deux roue.
Le notre, montage perso, pèse 17, 5 sans concession coté robustesse. La différence de poids représente presque nos bagages....
@jyves : ton tandem est en titane. Il faut comparer ce qui est comparable. Tu ne peux pas mettre en avant le poids de ton tandem alors que la matériau qui le constitue n'est pas le même. A résistance et confort égal, un cadre en titane est plus léger qu'un cadre en alu. Mais niveau prix, l'alu est plus léger.
@jyves : ton tandem est en titane. Il faut comparer ce qui est comparable. Tu ne peux pas mettre en avant le poids de ton tandem alors que la matériau qui le constitue n'est pas le même. A résistance et confort égal, un cadre en titane est plus léger qu'un cadre en alu. Mais niveau prix, l'alu est plus léger.
Pour la résistance, oui, et le confort est sans comparaison. Pour le prix, se méfier des idées toute faite, notre tandem nous coute au total moins cher qu'un Koga. ( En passant, Koga, comme Cannondale sont des marques chéres) Au prix de temps ( deux ans) et de patience...Petit fabriquant pour le cadre, mixage entre piéces d'occasion ou de fin de série (internet et une année au moins de recherches), et achat chez mon vélociste. Montage par mes soins, hormis la partie la plus technique.
Pour la résistance, oui, et le confort est sans comparaison. Pour le prix, se méfier des idées toute faite, notre tandem nous coute au total moins cher qu'un Koga. ( En passant, Koga, comme Cannondale sont des marques chéres) Au prix de temps ( deux ans) et de patience...Petit fabriquant pour le cadre, mixage entre piéces d'occasion ou de fin de série (internet et une année au moins de recherches), et achat chez mon vélociste. Montage par mes soins, hormis la partie la plus technique.
Je suis curieux de connaitre le prix de ton tandem et l'année de sa fabrication.
Pour Koga, je ne les trouve pas si chers que cela. J'ai fait une simulation sur leur site avec le programme Koga-Signature. Et j'ai comparé avec Cyfac et Cycles Perrin. Le Koga me revient moins cher (près de 1000€ en version Rohloff) avec des équipements plus haut de gamme. La seule différence à signaler c'est que Cyfac et Cycles Perrin avaient leur devis avec un cadre sur-mesure en acier et Koga en alu de série.
Quant au prix des cadres titane, dans le monde du VTT, le entrée de gamme made in china en série sont à 1000€ mais tu n'as pas toutes les qualités du titane. Pour avoir un bon cadre (non tandem), il faut compter au moins 1500/1600€. Et ce n'est que le cadre. Après pour un VTT tout équipé, j'ai une configuration dans les 3000€ (avec des prix trouvés sur le net). Donc je ne suis pas loin du prix du tandem Koga (4000€ environ).
Pour Koga, je ne les trouve pas si chers que cela. J'ai fait une simulation sur leur site avec le programme Koga-Signature. Et j'ai comparé avec Cyfac et Cycles Perrin. Le Koga me revient moins cher (près de 1000€ en version Rohloff) avec des équipements plus haut de gamme. La seule différence à signaler c'est que Cyfac et Cycles Perrin avaient leur devis avec un cadre sur-mesure en acier et Koga en alu de série.
Quant au prix des cadres titane, dans le monde du VTT, le entrée de gamme made in china en série sont à 1000€ mais tu n'as pas toutes les qualités du titane. Pour avoir un bon cadre (non tandem), il faut compter au moins 1500/1600€. Et ce n'est que le cadre. Après pour un VTT tout équipé, j'ai une configuration dans les 3000€ (avec des prix trouvés sur le net). Donc je ne suis pas loin du prix du tandem Koga (4000€ environ).
Pour le prix, se méfier des idées toute faite, notre tandem nous coute au total moins cher qu'un Koga.
Bonjour. Sur ton site/blog, tu dis que tu as eu "une substantielle réduction en échange de reportages photo" et que du coup ça t'a fait "un cadre sur mesure en titane qui reviendrait à peine plus cher qu'un acier haut de gamme en France". Sans cette offre, quel en aurait été le vrai coût?
...j'ai une configuration dans les 3000€ (avec des prix trouvés sur le net). Donc je ne suis pas loin du prix du tandem Koga (4000€ environ).
1000€ d'écart...pas si loin??? Ca commence à faire tout de même.
Bonjour. Sur ton site/blog, tu dis que tu as eu "une substantielle réduction en échange de reportages photo" et que du coup ça t'a fait "un cadre sur mesure en titane qui reviendrait à peine plus cher qu'un acier haut de gamme en France". Sans cette offre, quel en aurait été le vrai coût?
...j'ai une configuration dans les 3000€ (avec des prix trouvés sur le net). Donc je ne suis pas loin du prix du tandem Koga (4000€ environ).
1000€ d'écart...pas si loin??? Ca commence à faire tout de même.
...j'ai une configuration dans les 3000€ (avec des prix trouvés sur le net). Donc je ne suis pas loin du prix du tandem Koga (4000€ environ).
1000€ d'écart...pas si loin??? Ca commence à faire tout de même.
Oui et non, car mes 3000€ c'est pour un VTT et non un tandem. La différence entre le cadre VTT et le cadre tandem du même fabriçant est de 900€. Après pour un tandem, le surcoût pour la transmission et le poste de pilotage, je l'estime à 500€/1000€. Donc à vu de nez, je dirais qu'un tandem titane est dans les 4500€ environ sans compter l'équipement de voyage (porte-bagage, garde-boue, etc...). Donc le Koga a équipement équivalent est moins cher qu'un tandem titane.
1000€ d'écart...pas si loin??? Ca commence à faire tout de même.
Oui et non, car mes 3000€ c'est pour un VTT et non un tandem. La différence entre le cadre VTT et le cadre tandem du même fabriçant est de 900€. Après pour un tandem, le surcoût pour la transmission et le poste de pilotage, je l'estime à 500€/1000€. Donc à vu de nez, je dirais qu'un tandem titane est dans les 4500€ environ sans compter l'équipement de voyage (porte-bagage, garde-boue, etc...). Donc le Koga a équipement équivalent est moins cher qu'un tandem titane.
L'achat d'un tandem ne peut se faire que si on a fait son programme d'utilisation. Un tandem bas de gamme suffira pour une petite rando de 30 KM. On passe un bon moment en couple...
mais rapidement le "virus" est pris et on veux aller plus loin, plusieurs jours ... Le tandem en particulier sur le plat est trés facile d'accès et permet de faire belles distances.
Ensuite si on voyage , pour moi il est fondamentale d'investir dans un bon tandem. Un voyage est vite galère quand on cemmence à casser. De plus en descente il y a un aspect sécurité à ne pas négliger.
Enfin il faut savoir qu'il y a peu de pièces spécifiques pour le tandem, on utilise beaucoup de composants fait pour un vélo, et les efforts en tandems sont considérable. Il faut donc utiliser des pièces plus solides et de bonne qualité.
Pour les budgets serrés il existe un marché de l'occasion. Je pédale avec un club de défficients visuels qui proposent régulièrement des tandems de qualité à des prix interessants. Il faut chercher..
cordialement
flipper.
mais rapidement le "virus" est pris et on veux aller plus loin, plusieurs jours ... Le tandem en particulier sur le plat est trés facile d'accès et permet de faire belles distances.
Ensuite si on voyage , pour moi il est fondamentale d'investir dans un bon tandem. Un voyage est vite galère quand on cemmence à casser. De plus en descente il y a un aspect sécurité à ne pas négliger.
Enfin il faut savoir qu'il y a peu de pièces spécifiques pour le tandem, on utilise beaucoup de composants fait pour un vélo, et les efforts en tandems sont considérable. Il faut donc utiliser des pièces plus solides et de bonne qualité.
Pour les budgets serrés il existe un marché de l'occasion. Je pédale avec un club de défficients visuels qui proposent régulièrement des tandems de qualité à des prix interessants. Il faut chercher..
cordialement
flipper.
Je vais faire l'ancien combattant mais que je vois qu' un tandem Alex Singer équipé d'avant Guerre sortait à moins de 13 kg. je trouve que sortir des tandems de près de 29.2 kg n'est pas une démonstration de progrès en terme d'efficacité surtout à ce niveau de prix (4000 €). le koga fait un peu rayon de magasin de vélo avec ses trois béquilles.
Au critérium Duralumin, il (alex Singer) fut un redoutable compétiteur : en 1939, à Colmar, il pilota en équipe avec sa femme un tandem de 12, 975 kg. Ce fut un record de légèreté difficile à battre, surtout qu'il faut garder en mémoire que les concours de machines se réalisaient avec des tandems tout équipés : garde-boue, éclairage...
C'est tiré du site http://pagesperso-orange.fr/tandem.noir/ un mine d'infos pour les tandemistes.
Les machines de série équipées sortaient autour de 16 -17 kg, il y a de cela 60 ans...
100 % d'accord
plus la machine est lourde plus on use les pièces d'usures, et surtout dés que ça monte on en bave... Je connais des tanemistes qui poussent le tandem dé que la pente dépasse 10%, c'est un choix
Je suis un adepte du light et suis convaincu qu'on peut faire solide et léger question de conception.
Enfin pour compléter le post sur le sujet initiale, il me semble qu'en tandem la descente de chemins caillouteux n'est pas trés agréble pour le stocker ainsi pour ce qui me concerne nous ne nous limitons qu' à asphalte et à la terre battue sur le plat... le vélo et les cyclistes souffrent moins..
aujourd'hui on trouve des tandems de 16 à 18 KG compétitifs si on veux descendre sous les 15 KG les prix s'envolent..
sportivement
Flipper
Je suis un adepte du light et suis convaincu qu'on peut faire solide et léger question de conception.
Enfin pour compléter le post sur le sujet initiale, il me semble qu'en tandem la descente de chemins caillouteux n'est pas trés agréble pour le stocker ainsi pour ce qui me concerne nous ne nous limitons qu' à asphalte et à la terre battue sur le plat... le vélo et les cyclistes souffrent moins..
aujourd'hui on trouve des tandems de 16 à 18 KG compétitifs si on veux descendre sous les 15 KG les prix s'envolent..
sportivement
Flipper
Je ne sais plus qui a donné le lien de cette marque allemande, mais ils sont pas mal placé en rapport équipement/prix.
Pour ce qui est de la qualité, je ne connais pas.
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I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
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Laurent.
Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share with you the incredible feat my friend José, who’s 72 years old, is currently undertaking. He left Auterive near Toulouse on Monday, May 18, 2026, on his non-electric bike, heading for the North Cape in Norway!
You can follow his route on the link below—he’s currently in Sweden:
https://thierry-thomas.travelmap.net/jose-de-toulouse-a-nord-cap-2026
You can zoom in on the map and click on each stopover town to see the photos
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hello there, pedal-powered Young Boys!
Claudio (still from Faverges)
dreaming about a cycling getaway in Italy from Faverges (train all the way to Turin)
from Turin down to Venice along the Po River and back via the Padana (Alta Italia da attraversare – Northern Italy to cross)
The tricky part is getting from Chioggia to Venice.
I read it’s possible by hopping on a boat from island to island,
but it sounds a bit stressful.
Has anyone already tackled this route?
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio

Hi there,
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
Calling all travelers.
We’ll be landing at Lyon Airport and want to bike to La Verpillière train station (with panniers and camping gear, etc.) to catch a TER to Voreppe.
What’s the safest route for this bike trip?
Thanks in advance

