Tarifs de la visite de Pamukkale? (Turquie)
by Sthaka
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonsoir j'aurai aimé savoir les tarifs pour la visite de Pamukkale pour une vingtaines de personnes?
merci
Bonjour
Je suis aller 2x a Pammukale 1x en voyage organisé a partir de Bodrum pour Pammukale le prix +- 50€
et une fois de Kusadasi en dolmuch le prix aller retour +- 10€ la station de bus et dolmuch se trouve a Soke
L'entrée a Pammukale et a cote le site archeologique est gratuit il y le bain juste a cote et le bar
Si tu veux + renseignement donne moi des détails
Bien a toi
Salut à tous, salut René
J'aimerais également partir pour Bodrum en juin 2008. L'intérêt pour moi d'aller en Turquie réside dans l'espoir de faire la visite de Pamukkale. Il se trouve que j'ai jeté mon dévolu sur l'hôtel Rixos Premium Bodrum. Seulement, tous les catalogues de voyage ne mentionnent pas qu'il est possible de visiter Pamukkale de la ville de Bodrum. Si ils en parlent, ils disent qu'il faut deux jours. 😠 Suite à ton précédant poste, je me rends compte qu'il est tout à fait possible de visiter PAMUKKALE à partir de Bodrum en une seule journée. 🙂
Peux-tu, René, confirmer tes dires et donner plus d'infos sur cette visite prestigieuse. Quels désavantages ou avantages aurait la visite en dolmus à partir de la ville de BODRUM par rapport à une visite organisée par l'hôtel (beaucoup plus cher)? Quel est, à ton avis, le meilleur moyen d'appréhender le lieu et combien de temps dure le trajet aller?
J'avoue que j'étais prête à changer de destination si je ne pouvais pas aller à Pamukkale en un jour de mon lieu de résidence.
Donc, si tu pouvais m'informer.
Merci
Nancy
J'aimerais également partir pour Bodrum en juin 2008. L'intérêt pour moi d'aller en Turquie réside dans l'espoir de faire la visite de Pamukkale. Il se trouve que j'ai jeté mon dévolu sur l'hôtel Rixos Premium Bodrum. Seulement, tous les catalogues de voyage ne mentionnent pas qu'il est possible de visiter Pamukkale de la ville de Bodrum. Si ils en parlent, ils disent qu'il faut deux jours. 😠 Suite à ton précédant poste, je me rends compte qu'il est tout à fait possible de visiter PAMUKKALE à partir de Bodrum en une seule journée. 🙂
Peux-tu, René, confirmer tes dires et donner plus d'infos sur cette visite prestigieuse. Quels désavantages ou avantages aurait la visite en dolmus à partir de la ville de BODRUM par rapport à une visite organisée par l'hôtel (beaucoup plus cher)? Quel est, à ton avis, le meilleur moyen d'appréhender le lieu et combien de temps dure le trajet aller?
J'avoue que j'étais prête à changer de destination si je ne pouvais pas aller à Pamukkale en un jour de mon lieu de résidence.
Donc, si tu pouvais m'informer.
Merci
Nancy
Un jour sans rire est un jour perdu.
ton hotel va te proposer de visiter pamukkale sans aucun doute mais bodrum c'est un peu loin de pamukkale donc il est conseillé de le faire en 2 jours.
Pour le faire dans la journée je te conseille plutot d'aller a kusadasi et de plus tu seras tout pret aussi de ephese.
Pour aller de bodrum en bus pour pamukkale c'est un peu fastidieux: tu dois prendre le bus pour izmir et descendre a selcuk et de la prendre un 2eme bus pour aller a denizli et de la tu prend un dolmus pour aller a pamukkale (~20km)
Pour le faire dans la journée je te conseille plutot d'aller a kusadasi et de plus tu seras tout pret aussi de ephese.
Pour aller de bodrum en bus pour pamukkale c'est un peu fastidieux: tu dois prendre le bus pour izmir et descendre a selcuk et de la prendre un 2eme bus pour aller a denizli et de la tu prend un dolmus pour aller a pamukkale (~20km)
Bonjour a toi
C'est que c'est plus facile a partir de Kusadasi pour les dolmuch
Et la possibilté de le faire en un jour
De Bodrum j'ai pris un voyage organisé de 2 jours par l'agence
Le premier jour visite de Ephese superbe
Ensuite une nuit a l'hotel et petit dejeuner
Le deuxieme jour visite de Pammukale LA MONTAGNE DE COTON et a coté le site de Nécropolis
Moi j'ai trouvé cela tres bien
En voiture il faut de 4 a 5 heures de route pour Pammukale
Pour la visite c'est gratuit mais tu ne peux plus aller sur les vasques seulement sur le dessus
Tu peux voir une vide sur youtube voici l'adresse http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=83K1cayxWK4&feature=related
Voila bien a toi
Rene
Salut STHAKA,
J'ai visité le site de Pammukale vers la mi-novembre 2007, et j'ai payé 5 liras pour l'entrée ( 1 euros = 1, 7 liras ). Pour ce prix tu as accès au site historique ( hierapolis ) et aux bassins blancs (Pamukkale). Tu peux loger dans la ville de Pamukkale ( pleins d'hotels et pensions ), et de la tu peux monter à pieds au site (c'est vraiment juste à coté de la ville). Les prix hors saison pour un logement avec petit-dej pour une personne sont 20 liras maxi (on trouve pour 10 parait il). bon sejour,
J'ai visité le site de Pammukale vers la mi-novembre 2007, et j'ai payé 5 liras pour l'entrée ( 1 euros = 1, 7 liras ). Pour ce prix tu as accès au site historique ( hierapolis ) et aux bassins blancs (Pamukkale). Tu peux loger dans la ville de Pamukkale ( pleins d'hotels et pensions ), et de la tu peux monter à pieds au site (c'est vraiment juste à coté de la ville). Les prix hors saison pour un logement avec petit-dej pour une personne sont 20 liras maxi (on trouve pour 10 parait il). bon sejour,
Bonjour,
Merci beaucoup, Yvesala et René, pour vos réponses rapides et complètes.
Voilà qui remet en question la destination de Bodrum.
En effet, le fait de passer deux jours pour une excursion est suffisant pour perturber mon compagnon qui adore rester au bord de l'eau à prendre le soleil. 😊
Il n'aime pas visiter et le fait pour moi. Mais dans le cas où je le ferai. Comment s'arrange -ton avec l'hôtel de résidence, on paye une nuit en moins? Ou est-ce qu'on perd cette nuit? Ou tout doit-il être prévu à l'avance avec l'agence de voyage? Comment cela s'organise?
Si cette solution ne va pas, je dois me rejeter sur Kusadasi, mais je n'ai pas encore trouvé mon bonheur sachant que j'aimerais un 5 * qui propose une bonne qualité all in.
Bref voilà que je suis partie pour une nouvelle recherche dans les catalogues. Après tout c'est çà fait déjà partie des vacances. 😉
Si vous avez de bonnes adresses, n'hésitez pas .
Encore merci
Nancy
Si cette solution ne va pas, je dois me rejeter sur Kusadasi, mais je n'ai pas encore trouvé mon bonheur sachant que j'aimerais un 5 * qui propose une bonne qualité all in.
Bref voilà que je suis partie pour une nouvelle recherche dans les catalogues. Après tout c'est çà fait déjà partie des vacances. 😉
Si vous avez de bonnes adresses, n'hésitez pas .
Encore merci
Nancy
Un jour sans rire est un jour perdu.
Le fait de prendre un voyage à l'hotel en plus de votre sejour ne vous dispense pas de payer les nuits meme si vous ne dormez pas.
a kusadasi il y a pleins d'hotels 5* et la ville en elle-meme est bcp plus agreable que bodrum à moins d'aimer les discotheques.
a kusadasi il y a pleins d'hotels 5* et la ville en elle-meme est bcp plus agreable que bodrum à moins d'aimer les discotheques.
Il y a pas de quoi...
Concernant les hotels je peux pas t'aider, pour les 5 etoiles :-), je suis plutot toile de tente.
Cependant je suis arrivé par hasard dans un super hotel à pamukkale ( je pense pas qu'il y ait mieux la-bas, et avec piscine... ton compagnon sera content ;-) ).
Sur bodrum, je n'avais pas vu de super plage sur la ville, mais la ville vaut le détour avec ses montagnes et maisons blanches.
Sur Kusadasi, on m'a dit que c'etait très touristique... longue plage et pleins d'hotels... mais je n'y suis pas aller.
Pour les hotels, je pense que tu peux trouver sur tripadvisor ou des sites de ce genre.
Personnellement, si tu es dans le coin je te recommende qd même pamukkale, pour moi cela n'a pas de sens de passer à côté sans voir ça. Mais bon chacun ses gouts... Mais si vous voulez rester 1 semaine à la plage c'est pas le meilleur endroit vous risquez d'être deçu.
Merci pour tes réponses nemo1001
Est-ce vrai? la ville est plus belle? Est-ce typique? Les points de vue qu'offre la côte sont-ils aussi beaux?
Qu'y a-t-il à faire dans les environs immédiats comme par exemple à Bodrum, il y avait le château St Pierre, l'amphithéâtre, croisières diverses vers Samos...
Mon compagnon aime quand même un peu d'animation et faire les magasins (même si ils sont pour touristes)
Bref, nous n'avons pas les mêmes desiderata, lui et moi (j'aime mieux les endroits typiques, "de carte postale"). C'est pour cela que nous sommes un peu compliqués.
Mais je pense que comme tu le dis, çà vaut la peine d'étudier l'endroit.
Merci
A+
Nancy
Est-ce vrai? la ville est plus belle? Est-ce typique? Les points de vue qu'offre la côte sont-ils aussi beaux?
Qu'y a-t-il à faire dans les environs immédiats comme par exemple à Bodrum, il y avait le château St Pierre, l'amphithéâtre, croisières diverses vers Samos...
Mon compagnon aime quand même un peu d'animation et faire les magasins (même si ils sont pour touristes)
Bref, nous n'avons pas les mêmes desiderata, lui et moi (j'aime mieux les endroits typiques, "de carte postale"). C'est pour cela que nous sommes un peu compliqués.
Mais je pense que comme tu le dis, çà vaut la peine d'étudier l'endroit.
Merci
A+
Nancy
Un jour sans rire est un jour perdu.
A Bodrum la plage est ptite mais pour aller trouver des plages acceptables il faut sortir de la ville en prenant le bus. Si vous etes dans un 5*, vous serez au bord de l'eau et un peu eloigné de bodrum meme.
Les visites possibles a bodrum: le chateau d'halikarnas, le mausolée de mausol et les iles grecques.
Pour Kusadasi, il y a la ptite ile a visiter, ephese, iles grecques et en bateau faire le tour des criques pour se baigner, a 40km tu as un ptit village perché tres typique qui merite une visite.
Et pamukkale est tres proche comparé a bodrum (le voyage pour pamukkale partant de bodrum passe a kusadasi et ce voyage dure 3heures au moins de route)
Les 2 villes sont des villes balneaires assez betonné mais il y a bcp de magasins dans les 2 mais à bodrum il y a bcp de discotheques.
Personnellement, j'apprecie la promenade le long de la marina et le centre ville qui grouille de monde.
Si toi tu aimes les visites et ton compagnon plage-shopping, mon conseil serait kusadasi sans hesiter.
Les visites possibles a bodrum: le chateau d'halikarnas, le mausolée de mausol et les iles grecques.
Pour Kusadasi, il y a la ptite ile a visiter, ephese, iles grecques et en bateau faire le tour des criques pour se baigner, a 40km tu as un ptit village perché tres typique qui merite une visite.
Et pamukkale est tres proche comparé a bodrum (le voyage pour pamukkale partant de bodrum passe a kusadasi et ce voyage dure 3heures au moins de route)
Les 2 villes sont des villes balneaires assez betonné mais il y a bcp de magasins dans les 2 mais à bodrum il y a bcp de discotheques.
Personnellement, j'apprecie la promenade le long de la marina et le centre ville qui grouille de monde.
Si toi tu aimes les visites et ton compagnon plage-shopping, mon conseil serait kusadasi sans hesiter.
Tu réponds à ma crainte.
J'ai peur que Kusadasi fasse trop "ville" comparé à Bodrum et ce qui me décevrait énormément ce serait de voir effectivement des longues plages sans découpes avec tous les hôtels (même luxueux) alignés en rang d'oignon comme cela peut se voir vers Salou en Espagne. Je vai suivre ton conseil et visiter quelques sites sur la ville.
Par contre je suis d'accord avec toi : Aller en Turquie sans voir Pamukkale, c'est presque inconcevable.
Quel dilemme !!!!
Nancy
J'ai peur que Kusadasi fasse trop "ville" comparé à Bodrum et ce qui me décevrait énormément ce serait de voir effectivement des longues plages sans découpes avec tous les hôtels (même luxueux) alignés en rang d'oignon comme cela peut se voir vers Salou en Espagne. Je vai suivre ton conseil et visiter quelques sites sur la ville.
Par contre je suis d'accord avec toi : Aller en Turquie sans voir Pamukkale, c'est presque inconcevable.
Quel dilemme !!!!
Nancy
Un jour sans rire est un jour perdu.
Sur Kusadasi, on m'a dit que c'etait très touristique... longue plage et pleins d'hotels... mais je n'y suis pas aller.
Navré de te contredire mais il n y a pas de long plage a kusadasi ni meme a bodrum.
Bodrum est encore plus touristique que kusadasi. Si on peut se permettre de faire une reference a la france: bodrum est le st trop turc.
Navré de te contredire mais il n y a pas de long plage a kusadasi ni meme a bodrum.
Bodrum est encore plus touristique que kusadasi. Si on peut se permettre de faire une reference a la france: bodrum est le st trop turc.
Ton dernier message me rassure quand même Nemo.
Je vais me rendre compte de l'allure des lieux sur un site touristique.
C'est super de me faire profiter de vos expériences sur vos voyages car pour ma part je ne suis partie qu'à Rhodes et nous avons passé des vacances inoubliables, il y avait tout sur cette île de bonne dimension, nombreuses visites (antiques et typiques avec Lindos), la vieille ville fortifiée est splendide et animée. L'hôtel (Hilton) au bord de la plage était magnifique. (Malgré que les complexes se suivaient tous en rangs d'oignons, donc pas trop important si le cadre est joli)
Bref c'est ce même type de vacances que nous recherchons. Et il me semble que pour toi, c'est Kusadasi qui me permettra de tout faire.
A+
Nancy
Je vais me rendre compte de l'allure des lieux sur un site touristique.
C'est super de me faire profiter de vos expériences sur vos voyages car pour ma part je ne suis partie qu'à Rhodes et nous avons passé des vacances inoubliables, il y avait tout sur cette île de bonne dimension, nombreuses visites (antiques et typiques avec Lindos), la vieille ville fortifiée est splendide et animée. L'hôtel (Hilton) au bord de la plage était magnifique. (Malgré que les complexes se suivaient tous en rangs d'oignons, donc pas trop important si le cadre est joli)
Bref c'est ce même type de vacances que nous recherchons. Et il me semble que pour toi, c'est Kusadasi qui me permettra de tout faire.
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Nancy
Un jour sans rire est un jour perdu.
Pour ceux que cela intéresse, 5 liras par personne soit un peu moins de 3€ avec la visite de Pamukkale, de la cité antique et le parking. Les thermes sont en supplément : de 7 à 15€.
Et toi qu'en penses-tu sur ce débat Kusadasi - Bodrum
Qu'elle est le meilleur endroit à ton avis?
Nancy
Nancy
Un jour sans rire est un jour perdu.
tu peux aussi t'aider de google earth pour voir ou tu vas...
Bonne recherche
Merci pour l'info nemo1001... comme quoi... les gens racontent pas toujours des trucs exacts... (j'avais remarqué ça aussi quand je demandais si la route était en pente :-) )
Sur Kusadasi, on m'a dit que c'etait très touristique... longue plage et pleins d'hotels... mais je n'y suis pas aller.
Navré de te contredire mais il n y a pas de long plage a kusadasi ni meme a bodrum.
Bodrum est encore plus touristique que kusadasi. Si on peut se permettre de faire une reference a la france: bodrum est le st trop turc.
Sur Kusadasi, on m'a dit que c'etait très touristique... longue plage et pleins d'hotels... mais je n'y suis pas aller.
Navré de te contredire mais il n y a pas de long plage a kusadasi ni meme a bodrum.
Bodrum est encore plus touristique que kusadasi. Si on peut se permettre de faire une reference a la france: bodrum est le st trop turc.
Pendant que j'y pense et après j'arrête, pourquoi tu n'as pas pensé à antalya?
C'est pas loin de pamukkale, pleins d'hotels pour tous les gouts, une super vue et des plages.
Re bonjour
Si tu veut une tres belle plage vas a ALANYA ou ANTALYA
moi je suis partis l'année passée a alanya tres grande plage et beaucoups d'hotels
une carte est jointe
http://maps.google.be/maps?utm_campaign=be&utm_source=nl-ha-emea-be-syn-ls&utm_medium=ha&utm_term=carte
sur ce site tu trouveras tuoute les information concernant les km et une vue de la turquie
indique pamukkale et dans itineraire pamukkale et l'autre ville de depart
Bien a toi
Bonjour,
Si ta recherche d'un chouette hotel 5 étoiles avec all in complet est toujours d'actualité moi je viens de réserver au Yali resort c'est a 35kilométre de Kusadasi et il m'a été conseiller par plusieurs personne et l'agence ma confirmer que c'était vraiment un très bon hotel a un très bon prix!
Aparement la visite Pammukal est possible de la bas car j'aimerais aussi la faire en une journée!
Si tu veux des renseignement sur les prix ou des photos tu peux sans aucun probléme m'envoyer un mail je t'y répondrais avec grand plaisir!!!
Sue-Hélène.
Si ta recherche d'un chouette hotel 5 étoiles avec all in complet est toujours d'actualité moi je viens de réserver au Yali resort c'est a 35kilométre de Kusadasi et il m'a été conseiller par plusieurs personne et l'agence ma confirmer que c'était vraiment un très bon hotel a un très bon prix!
Aparement la visite Pammukal est possible de la bas car j'aimerais aussi la faire en une journée!
Si tu veux des renseignement sur les prix ou des photos tu peux sans aucun probléme m'envoyer un mail je t'y répondrais avec grand plaisir!!!
Sue-Hélène.
Vive le départ en turquie le 27 juin!!!
Merci Sue-Hélène pour l'info.
Il me semble effectivement l'avoir vu dans un catalogue.
Si je ne le trouve pas, je te contacte. Je vois que l'on a plus ou moins les mêmes desiderata pour ces vacances. Moi je compte partir début juin. Je m'en réjouis également
Par contre, si l'on peut réellement visiter Pamukkale en 1 jour en partant d'Antalia, cela élargit mes choix d'hôtels.
J'examine les deux plans.
Nancy
Par contre, si l'on peut réellement visiter Pamukkale en 1 jour en partant d'Antalia, cela élargit mes choix d'hôtels.
J'examine les deux plans.
Nancy
Un jour sans rire est un jour perdu.
antalya-bodrum c'est tres loin, je vois mal le faire dans la journée à moins de partir au levée du soleil.
bonsoir
nous nous envolons pour la turquie dans 1 mois et nous venons de découvrir le site de pamukkale
est-il possible de si baigner??si non y'a t-il un autre endroit ki y ressemblr
nous serons a bodrum en une journé est -il possible de le faire sinon sur deux jours cela nous reviendrai a combien??
merci d'avance helene 😉
merci d'avance helene 😉
la baignade est interdite (enfin)
et le faire a partir de bodrum necessite de passer la nuit labas et le prix va dependre de comment vous voulez aller: tour, voiture, bus
et le faire a partir de bodrum necessite de passer la nuit labas et le prix va dependre de comment vous voulez aller: tour, voiture, bus
Bonjour
Il est interdit de se baigner quand je suis aller tu pouvais te promener sur le site a pied nus
A coté il y a la piscine de Cleopatre mais c'est plein de monde et a coté La nécropole
Pour y aller il n'y a pas de probleme en une journée
Regardes sur mon site il y a une video de Bodrum Kusadasi et Alanya etc
De Bodrum tu peux visiter Ephese c'est super tu peux y aller en Dolmuch
Ou choisir le touroperateur il y a un voyage de 2 jours Pammukale et Ephese + logement une nuit a l'hotel (+-100 €)
Dis moi quels tes intentions visite plage
Je part egalement du 31/3 au 14/4/2008 a Kemer pres de Antalya
http://rene103.skyrock.com/3.html
Bien a toi
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What do you think of this itinerary? We’re taking our time (beach and swimming if the weather allows in May—is the water too cold?)
Athens, 3 days Nafplio, 3 days (Mycenae, Epidaurus, Archaia) Mystras, 2 days or Monemvasia, 2 days (Laconia peninsula)?? Dilemma between the two Return trip from the Peloponnese via the Rio-Antirrio bridge Nafpaktos, 1 night Arachova, 2 days (Delphi, Osios Loukas Monastery) Return to Athens and departure
Is it crowded in May or June for visits to archaeological sites? Thanks for your suggestions or corrections!
Athens, 3 days Nafplio, 3 days (Mycenae, Epidaurus, Archaia) Mystras, 2 days or Monemvasia, 2 days (Laconia peninsula)?? Dilemma between the two Return trip from the Peloponnese via the Rio-Antirrio bridge Nafpaktos, 1 night Arachova, 2 days (Delphi, Osios Loukas Monastery) Return to Athens and departure
Is it crowded in May or June for visits to archaeological sites? Thanks for your suggestions or corrections!
Hi there,
Our first trip to Greece as a couple. We're planning to spend 7 days in Greece from August 30th to September 5th. We'll reserve 2 days for Athens at the end of the trip. For the remaining 5 days, we want to visit an island—any recommendations? Thanks for your tips and details, we really appreciate it.
Hi,
What tips can you give me for dealing with a car rental scam attempt in Lithuania?
In our case, it’s the Avis-Budget agency in Vilnius trying to scam us.
We rented a car at Vilnius Airport for 2 weeks on July 28, 2019, to return it in Tallinn on August 11. We brought it back on August 11 at the airport, in perfect condition, and with a full tank at the gas station right by Tallinn Airport.
On the parking lot, the receptionist’s booth was closed. So we had to leave the car in the lot and go to the counter inside the airport. The person at the counter told us their colleague had gone for lunch! But they refused to come out and do the inspection with us because they were alone at the counter. They told us we could leave and that everything was fine!!!!
Two days later, we got an email from Avis-Budget with two invoices saying the car was damaged—scratched on both sides—and charging us for a full tank of gas. That’s two bills totaling 800 €!!!! Coincidentally, the deposit was 900 €!
It’s clear this isn’t over!! Have any of you been through the same nightmare? How did you handle it? Thanks in advance!
In our case, it’s the Avis-Budget agency in Vilnius trying to scam us.
We rented a car at Vilnius Airport for 2 weeks on July 28, 2019, to return it in Tallinn on August 11. We brought it back on August 11 at the airport, in perfect condition, and with a full tank at the gas station right by Tallinn Airport.
On the parking lot, the receptionist’s booth was closed. So we had to leave the car in the lot and go to the counter inside the airport. The person at the counter told us their colleague had gone for lunch! But they refused to come out and do the inspection with us because they were alone at the counter. They told us we could leave and that everything was fine!!!!
Two days later, we got an email from Avis-Budget with two invoices saying the car was damaged—scratched on both sides—and charging us for a full tank of gas. That’s two bills totaling 800 €!!!! Coincidentally, the deposit was 900 €!
It’s clear this isn’t over!! Have any of you been through the same nightmare? How did you handle it? Thanks in advance!
I’m spending 2 weeks in Crete in September and will need a rental car.
I usually go with Europcar, but comparing their offer to what Aegean Rentals has, I see Europcar is charging no less than 400 € more for the same car and similar insurance!
I’d love to hear if others have experience with Aegean Rentals, and if so, whether it was a good one?
Hi,
We’re heading to Greece in early October and will be staying in Kineta, north of the Saronic Gulf, and renting a car.
Is it feasible to visit Acrocorinth, Mycenae, Nafplio, and Epidaurus in a single day?
Thanks for your recommendations!
Hi there!
I’m sharing our itinerary for May/June 2027—23 days. This is our first time in Greece, so we’re starting with the must-see spots. We’re planning another trip later to explore the north, Thessaloniki, Macedonia, and some islands.
- Athens, 4 nights - Corinth area, 2 nights (Heraion of Perachora, Canal, Acrocorinth) - Nafplio, 3 nights (Mycenae, Epidaurus, Methana peninsula) - Gefira, 2 nights (Monemvasia) - Areopoli, 2 nights (Mani). Maybe add an extra night and stay on the peninsula??? Based on my calculations, the Mani loop is about 100 km—doable in a day, but it’d be a quick trip. - Sparta or Pikoulianika, 2 nights (Mystras) - Dimitsana, 2 nights (Lousios Gorge, monasteries) - Olympia, 2 nights (via Lagkadia?) - Delphi or Arachova, 3 nights (via the west coast, Galaxidi bridge) (Delphi, Hosios Loukas Monastery) - And back to Athens.
This is just a rough draft for now. We’re planning to stay in hotels or book through Booking.com. What do you think? Thanks for your feedback and suggestions!
- Athens, 4 nights - Corinth area, 2 nights (Heraion of Perachora, Canal, Acrocorinth) - Nafplio, 3 nights (Mycenae, Epidaurus, Methana peninsula) - Gefira, 2 nights (Monemvasia) - Areopoli, 2 nights (Mani). Maybe add an extra night and stay on the peninsula??? Based on my calculations, the Mani loop is about 100 km—doable in a day, but it’d be a quick trip. - Sparta or Pikoulianika, 2 nights (Mystras) - Dimitsana, 2 nights (Lousios Gorge, monasteries) - Olympia, 2 nights (via Lagkadia?) - Delphi or Arachova, 3 nights (via the west coast, Galaxidi bridge) (Delphi, Hosios Loukas Monastery) - And back to Athens.
This is just a rough draft for now. We’re planning to stay in hotels or book through Booking.com. What do you think? Thanks for your feedback and suggestions!
Over the past twenty-five years, I’ve traveled the roads between France and Moldova a good ten times, sometimes via Central Europe, other times via the Balkans.
It was while traveling like this—what I call "hitting the road the slow way"—that I realized something simple: our neighbors' neighbors are very clearly our neighbors too. And that’s not insignificant.
Proof: https://etreounepasetrebretillien.com/2018/03/19/moldova-mea/ 🤓
After a break of a few years, I’m planning to hit the road again in September, this time heading to Kosovo, crossing through Bosnia-Herzegovina and Montenegro.
Having gotten a bit older, I’ve no intention of rushing—no need to speed ahead of the music! 😄
I’d rather take my time.
I’m not looking to see everything, but to soak in the atmosphere of the places, always leaving room for the unexpected and for encounters.
I’m especially drawn to culturally immersive, authentic, and welcoming regions: lively villages, backroads, preserved landscapes, markets, local festivals, traditions that are still very much alive... and, why not, a few offbeat, forgotten, or slightly secret spots.
If any of you know Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro, or Kosovo a little, I’d love to hear your suggestions for itineraries, stops, backroads, homestays, village festivals, or local contacts, for example.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
It was while traveling like this—what I call "hitting the road the slow way"—that I realized something simple: our neighbors' neighbors are very clearly our neighbors too. And that’s not insignificant.
Proof: https://etreounepasetrebretillien.com/2018/03/19/moldova-mea/ 🤓
After a break of a few years, I’m planning to hit the road again in September, this time heading to Kosovo, crossing through Bosnia-Herzegovina and Montenegro.
Having gotten a bit older, I’ve no intention of rushing—no need to speed ahead of the music! 😄
I’d rather take my time.
I’m not looking to see everything, but to soak in the atmosphere of the places, always leaving room for the unexpected and for encounters.
I’m especially drawn to culturally immersive, authentic, and welcoming regions: lively villages, backroads, preserved landscapes, markets, local festivals, traditions that are still very much alive... and, why not, a few offbeat, forgotten, or slightly secret spots.
If any of you know Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro, or Kosovo a little, I’d love to hear your suggestions for itineraries, stops, backroads, homestays, village festivals, or local contacts, for example.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Planning to return to Belarus in mid-August, I just realized that since last September, Poland has reopened several border crossing points, and for buses, this means connections like Białystok-Grodno.
The official Polish page: https://granica.gov.pl/index_wait.php?p=b&c=t&v=pl&k=w

Several bus company routes, like on infobus.eu, take between 3 and 4 hours. Trains from Warsaw to Białystok take about 1.5 to 2 hours. This has the advantage of allowing comfortable train journeys with minimal time spent on a bus. Also, the Terespol-Brest border might have shorter queues if you still prefer a Warsaw-Brest bus.
Note that another route to Minsk, if you have a paper Russian or Belarusian visa, is the Kaliningrad-Minsk train. It’s long—around ten or eleven hours—but you can lie down and sleep. An option if you fly into Gdańsk and then take a short bus to Kaliningrad.
There are also Belavia flights from Minsk to Kaliningrad, but they’re expensive. The route is scenic:

In any case, this adds a few more options compared to what’s been available over the last four years.
The official Polish page: https://granica.gov.pl/index_wait.php?p=b&c=t&v=pl&k=w

Several bus company routes, like on infobus.eu, take between 3 and 4 hours. Trains from Warsaw to Białystok take about 1.5 to 2 hours. This has the advantage of allowing comfortable train journeys with minimal time spent on a bus. Also, the Terespol-Brest border might have shorter queues if you still prefer a Warsaw-Brest bus.
Note that another route to Minsk, if you have a paper Russian or Belarusian visa, is the Kaliningrad-Minsk train. It’s long—around ten or eleven hours—but you can lie down and sleep. An option if you fly into Gdańsk and then take a short bus to Kaliningrad.
There are also Belavia flights from Minsk to Kaliningrad, but they’re expensive. The route is scenic:

In any case, this adds a few more options compared to what’s been available over the last four years.
Hi there.
I’d like to know what the daily budget is for Greece in December. I’ll be landing in Athens and staying there for a week, then heading to some other islands—I don’t have a set itinerary yet. Also, I’ve heard that in December, or early January, the temperature is around 11–16°C. Is that accurate?
Finally, does anyone have a good recommendation for a cheap but clean hotel near the tourist sites? I don’t need a TV or any other extras. Also, is Greece gay-friendly?
Thanks in advance for your replies. Best regards
Finally, does anyone have a good recommendation for a cheap but clean hotel near the tourist sites? I don’t need a TV or any other extras. Also, is Greece gay-friendly?
Thanks in advance for your replies. Best regards
hi
I’d like to know the opening hours of physical stores between Germany and Austria, and between Austria and Slovenia, that sell the PAPER STICKER toll vignettes that still exist for 2026—non-digital ones. I don’t think they’re open 24/7, and I can’t find the info anywhere. Thanks
I’d like to know the opening hours of physical stores between Germany and Austria, and between Austria and Slovenia, that sell the PAPER STICKER toll vignettes that still exist for 2026—non-digital ones. I don’t think they’re open 24/7, and I can’t find the info anywhere. Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week trip in late September with our camper van to explore Bulgaria and Romania.
What routes would you recommend, starting from the South?
Is there an option to take a ferry in Italy, and is it worth it?
Thanks for all your tips!😊
Hi there, we’re a young couple and we’d love to go to the Blue Eye (Syri i Kalter) between today (26/06/26) and tomorrow (27/06/26).
Is anyone heading there and could give us a ride? We’re super friendly!
Thanks so much!
Maya and Sullivan
Maya and Sullivan
We're back. It's still a bit tough to get precise info, so here's a quick trip report!
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
We’re a Canadian couple, both 77, and we’re already planning our vacation for fall 2027.
Timeframe: mid-September to mid-October... dates are flexible, and we might stay even longer.
Initially, I had planned this itinerary:
Athens (3), Naxos (4), Paros (4), Santorini (4), then a flight to Istanbul (7–10 days!!). This would let us maximize our flights and experience another culture.
That’s a lot of ferries, though... I’ve already cut out Milos.
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Hi there!
We bought our tickets to Greece at the end of November 2025, and let’s just say the geopolitical climate has really taken a turn since then with the war started by the United States against Iran. Not to mention all the other conflicts happening around the world 😕... Anyway!
Our flight from Montreal is on May 1st, and I was wondering how things are currently being experienced in Greece.
We were planning to rent a car and had already booked accommodations on three Cyclades islands!!
The oil shortage is also worrying us...
If you could share some insights on this, that would be great!
Thanks!!
Thanks!!
A little trip report from an 11-day journey to Albania at the end of April 2026, with two friends in their early sixties and beyond...
Our route: Berat, Gjirokastër, Himarë, Tirana
Here are some opinions, tips, and great deals to share:
Flight Round-trip Beauvais-Tirana: Ryanair, 260 € with checked baggage (20 kg) and seat selection. Flight was fine and on time. 2h 30min flight.
Exchange: 1 € was worth 95 lek in April 2026. We were advised to exchange in the airport hall at the Illiria counter (98 lek outside the security zone), saying we wouldn’t find a better rate. However, the exchange rate was 93 lek for 1 euro, while in the city it was 95...
Car rental at Tirana airport for 9 days via Booking.com: 144 € (56 € for the car rental and 88 € for optional full insurance deductible waiver).
Wheego agency: the car was fine, but be careful when signing the contract—they tried to convince us that the insurance taken through Booking didn’t cover everything and insisted we take their own insurance for 250 €... We refused.
After reading about driving in Tirana, instead of starting our trip by visiting the capital, we decided to head straight to Berat upon arrival and return the car at the end of the trip to explore the city on foot. This turned out to be a great choice!
Accommodations: All our stays were booked via Booking.com. Everyone prefers to be paid in euros and in cash—they mention this when booking.
Berat: 2-hour drive from the airport.
Accommodation: Vila Arben Elezi: 135 € for 3 nights with breakfast and private parking. The room was decent and clean but a bit dark, located slightly below ground level near the parking. However, the breakfast on the rooftop was excellent, especially with the stunning view of the "city of a thousand windows." Great location.
Berat was our favorite—there are lovely walks through the different neighborhoods on both sides of the river, each with a very different vibe. The citadel visit is also fascinating, as it’s like a small town within the fortress.
The walk along the river is pleasant, with plenty of restaurant choices. Other restaurants in the old town are also very nice. The White House Restaurant, on the first floor along the road, is good and offers a great view of the Gorica district.
Gjirokastër:
Accommodation: Te Ajdini Guest House: 120 € for 3 nights with breakfast. A private home stay. There’s free parking just before entering the city, a 5-minute walk from the accommodation, which is very convenient since the cobblestone streets are narrow and parking is tricky. Yes, it’s a climb to get to the place, but everything in this city is uphill... The room was bright and clean. Breakfast was very good, hearty, and served in the courtyard with a view of the castle. The guesthouse is a 5-minute walk from the city center (the bazaar) but in a quiet area.
Restaurants: Rrapi and Kujtimi—good and affordable with their little pergolas.
The old town of Gjirokastër is charming but very touristy, with streets packed with souvenir shops and restaurant tables and chairs. Lots of people.
-The bunker visit (near the tourist office) is very interesting: Cold War Tunnel.
The castle offers a beautiful view of the city.
-Visit to the Ottoman house Skenduli: very well done. Don’t forget to climb the ladder facing a trapdoor in the ceiling to see the roof’s framework—it’s like a forest of beams: impressive!
-The bridge Ura e Ali Pasha: A steep 45-minute climb from the city to the site is worth it, but once you reach the viewpoint (which is stunning), you have to go back down a path to reach the bridge. You can drive to the viewpoint, but parking is very tricky.
Around Gjirokastër:
-Just outside the city: Lake Liqeni i Viroit: a nice, ordinary-looking lake, but at the end, there’s a natural spring making the water crystal clear and a brilliant blue—really spectacular, like photos of Blue Eye near Sarandë.
-Drive to Përmet along the gorges: beautiful viewpoints along the way and lovely countryside.
Himarë:
Accommodation: Vila Kosteli: 120 € for 2 nights with breakfast—slightly overpriced for this type of place but very close to a small beach and not far from the promenade with all the restaurants. Private parking, but very tight (4 cars on a tiny lot along the road). The "sea view" room is a bit obstructed by the building across the street. However, the rooftop breakfast view is beautiful. Friendly staff.
Himarë is a pleasant seaside resort, quite calm (but it was April...). There’s a cute promenade with restaurants along the beach. The castle on the heights of Himarë is worth a visit.
Around Himarë:
-Qeparo is worth a quick stop, but Qeparo village is really worth the detour: a village lost in the heights after a scenic drive up from the coastal road—narrow but well-maintained. Beautiful view from the top and a charming village.
-The Big Bunker and Llogora Panorama: take a right turn several kilometers after Dhermi—a road that climbs steeply from the start... A breathtaking winding road that reaches 900 meters in altitude. The view is stunning.
-Several small villages between Dhermi and Himarë are worth a quick stop.
-Porto Palermo Castle is somewhat disappointing.
Tirana:
Taxi from Tirana airport to the city center: 15 € with electric taxis (Green Taxi, Bee Taxi, Do Taxi).
Accommodation: Hotel Nevi Apartment: 63 € for 2 nights. A private apartment in an older building but very clean and well-equipped, with a kitchen and small enclosed balcony.
Great welcome and contact—the owner even booked a taxi for our departure. Very well located, close to the main square, shops, and restaurants. A small supermarket nearby is perfect for stocking up on breakfast supplies.
The city is lively and dynamic, with plenty of green spaces and promenades. Buildings are popping up everywhere, often with surprising architecture—like a building shaped like a face, a huge golden cube, and many others under construction.
-Sky Tower: at the top, a rotating bar offers a 360° view of the city and its buildings. Drinks are a bit pricier than usual, but it’s totally worth it (6 € for a beer or a glass of white wine, 3 € for coffee). We were there for sunset, and it was amazing! A must-do. Arrive early, as it fills up quickly.
-The House of Leaves: a house used for secret surveillance and interrogations during the dictatorship... A great way to learn about the surveillance systems of that era.
-Bunk’Art 2: a bunker in the heart of the city—very interesting, covering the dictatorship period and its system...
-The Pazari i Ri Bazaar: the new bazaar district. The large hall is worth a visit, but souvenir prices are often higher than elsewhere... The area is nice.
Restaurant: Kastrati Restaurant—a bit like a canteen with lots of traditional dishes. It’s on the first floor of a building. Excellent value for money, and the waitress explains the dishes in French.
That’s a little overview of our trip and my personal impressions! Albania is a beautiful and pleasant country to visit. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
That’s a little overview of our trip and my personal impressions! Albania is a beautiful and pleasant country to visit. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
What are the main sights to visit on Rhodes itself or the surrounding islands, and what’s the weather like? We’re leaving on May 18th.
Hi everyone,
We’re thinking of spending 3 weeks in Crete between mid-August and early September, renting a car, quickly exploring a few spots in the east, and focusing on the west, southwest, and south.
I’m worried about the heavy tourist crowds. Is it really more noticeable than elsewhere in Greece? Is there a way to avoid the crowds without missing out on the iconic places, which I imagine are stunning in Crete? Thanks for your thoughts and experiences!
Hi,
I'm heading to Greece via Albania soon. Does anyone have info on transportation from Gjirokastër to Ioannina?
Which company, fares, and schedules—it's not very clear with Google.
Thanks!
Patrice
Thanks!
Patrice
Hi everyone,
I’m just passing through Bratislava quickly (one afternoon, one night, one morning) and I’d love to see the highlights of the city. I’ve put together a little itinerary—feel free to let me know what you think!
Start at the castle and its beautiful viewpoint Visit the Baroque gardens St. Martin’s Cathedral, quick visit National Theatre Discover the Cumil statues Primatial Palace via Hlavné Namestie Michael’s Gate Grassalkovich Palace via Obchodna Walk across Namesti Slobody to head back to the upside-down pyramid Head down to the Blue Church Cross the Danube to see Sad Janka Krala, then return via the UFO Bridge There you go—10 km and a packed day! What do you think?
Thanks, Stéphane.
I’m just passing through Bratislava quickly (one afternoon, one night, one morning) and I’d love to see the highlights of the city. I’ve put together a little itinerary—feel free to let me know what you think!
Start at the castle and its beautiful viewpoint Visit the Baroque gardens St. Martin’s Cathedral, quick visit National Theatre Discover the Cumil statues Primatial Palace via Hlavné Namestie Michael’s Gate Grassalkovich Palace via Obchodna Walk across Namesti Slobody to head back to the upside-down pyramid Head down to the Blue Church Cross the Danube to see Sad Janka Krala, then return via the UFO Bridge There you go—10 km and a packed day! What do you think?
Thanks, Stéphane.
Hi,
I’m renting a car in Greece (Heraklion).
Should I get extra insurance?
What’s driving like with the Greeks?
Thanks for any tips!
Hi there,
we’re heading to Crete from May 8th to 15th, staying at a hotel in Agia Pelagia, 20 km from Heraklion, on half-board, so we’ll be back every evening. What daily itinerary would you recommend? We love hiking and discovering local cultures...
Thanks in advance!!






