Assister à des combats de coq à Bangkok?
by Francoischar
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonsoir la compagnie...
Etant en mode "cochage de case à faire", je voulais savoir ou est ce que l on pouvait assister à des combats bien desiquilibré entre un petit coq et un boa ou quelque chose qui y ressemble... en esperant que les bonnes vieilles traditions ne se sont pas toutes perdues a bangkok......
merci de votre compréhension
slt,
j'ai bien peur que tu sois decu, je ne doute pas que ce genre de combat existe encore mais comme c'est pratique sont interdite a moins que tu sois thai et que tu connaisses les endroits clandestins, en tant que touriste tes chances d'y assiste sont vraiment tres maigres...😕
"par contre, boa vs coq je vois pas sur qui parier 😕 "
j'ai bien peur que tu sois decu, je ne doute pas que ce genre de combat existe encore mais comme c'est pratique sont interdite a moins que tu sois thai et que tu connaisses les endroits clandestins, en tant que touriste tes chances d'y assiste sont vraiment tres maigres...😕
"par contre, boa vs coq je vois pas sur qui parier 😕 "
J'ai eu la "chance" de voir un combat entre coqs mais c'était du cote de ChangRai, perdu dans la jungle, soit disant en passant, j'ai était accompagner par un voisin thai
IL Y A 192 PAYS DANS LE MONDE, ALORS NE REVEZ PLUS.....PARTEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bonjour,
pour BKK, je ne sais pas, mais si tu vadrouilles en Issan tu peux tomber sur une fête de village ou, avec de la chance tu pourras en voir un:
http://voyageurasie.canalblog.com/archives/2007/03/24/index.html
ou alors chez Alban toujours en Issan a ban naa cottage il en eléve
http://www.east-asian-road.com/
du coté de Samui, combats de buffalos, puissant !:
http://album-photo.geo.fr/ap/album/12348/
pour BKK, je ne sais pas, mais si tu vadrouilles en Issan tu peux tomber sur une fête de village ou, avec de la chance tu pourras en voir un:
http://voyageurasie.canalblog.com/archives/2007/03/24/index.html
ou alors chez Alban toujours en Issan a ban naa cottage il en eléve
http://www.east-asian-road.com/
du coté de Samui, combats de buffalos, puissant !:
http://album-photo.geo.fr/ap/album/12348/
Salut, J'ai assisté a des combats de coqs a chang mai . Pour commençer, ils essayent de se crever les yeux puis se saute dessus avec leurs "éperons tranchants" en métal, quand un coq est trops blessé, on arrête le combat, on le soigne et on le remet dans l'arène jusqu'au moment ou il est bon pour la casserole ou le repos forcé pour un autre combat la semaine suivante...le publique crie et parie. Moi, je n'ai rien compris, même après plusieurs combats, je ne savais jamais lequel avait gagné . Conclusion, ambiance sanglante et limite...mais le publique etait sympa et se demandait ce que l'on faisait la, a certain moment moi ausii...bye bye
Vivement que je repartes !!!
Sididi
des combats bien desiquilibré entre un petit coq et un boa ou quelque chose qui y ressemble ...
Une étole de vison par exemple ?
Pour le côté "déséquilibré", ce sont les spectateurs qui présentent cette caractéristique, le combat, lui, est toujours plutôt à gerber ...
Et les concours de chants d'oiseaux, çà ne vous intéresserait pas plus ?
C'est charmant, spectaculaire -dans un registre plus "cool"- et beaucoup plus original !
Une étole de vison par exemple ?
Pour le côté "déséquilibré", ce sont les spectateurs qui présentent cette caractéristique, le combat, lui, est toujours plutôt à gerber ...
Et les concours de chants d'oiseaux, çà ne vous intéresserait pas plus ?
C'est charmant, spectaculaire -dans un registre plus "cool"- et beaucoup plus original !
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Bonjour et salut,
L'imbecillité n'a pas de limite
Respect de la vie, tu connais ?
Salut, J'ai assisté a des combats de coqs a chang mai . Pour commençer, ils essayent de se crever les yeux puis se saute dessus avec leurs "éperons tranchants" en métal, quand un coq est trops blessé, on arrête le combat, on le soigne et on le remet dans l'arène jusqu'au moment ou il est bon pour la casserole
Monsieur s'est surement trompe de pays ..On n'est pas en Malaisie, ni aux philippines ni ailleurs.. on est en Thailande😮 Comme quoi il faut etre vigilant sur tout et ne pas laisse dire n'importe quoi !! En Thailande les combats de coqs sont organises partout dans les grandes villes, et les villages tous les WE et meme en semaine..Ca attire des milliers de personnes de tout ages et sexes. Ce que dit ''siditi '' est completement faux ..Toutes les parties tranchantes et dangereuses du coq sont proteges..Il n'y a rien de sanglant, pas de blessures graves sinon pas plus qu'un combat de boxe .. La valeur de l'animal varient entre 5000 et 200 000 baht en general ..je vois mal les thais mettre les coqs a la casseroles ..d'apres vous ??? c'est comme si un jockey voulait bouffer son cheval quand il a perdu une course. Ces animaux sont plus que des animaux de companie, il sont selectionnes choyes et entretenus comme de vrais sportifs sur des criteres bien precis de la race .. Les combats se font par round de 20 mns .la duree est d'environ 5 rounds suivant les niveaux avec arbitre. Certains coqs font en moyenne 1 combat par mois et finissent leur carriere a 5 ans et passent une bonne retraite au milieu des poules .Etre un coq de combat en Thailnde c'est justement d'eviter la casserole .. L'immense majorite des eleveurs et participants aiment leurs animaux comme leur enfants ..C'est culturel en Thailande, n'en deplaise a certain, mais c'est comme ca. Il y a de nombreuses revues specialisees mensuelles des DVD que l'on peut acheter sur les marches etc...etc..Il y a une federation et des controles veterinaires. Qu'on aime pas la corrida je le comprend tres bien c'est cruel, sanglant et disproportionne, qu'on aime pas la boxe on le comprend aussi, qu'on aime pas les combats de coq on le comprend tres bien .. Mais ce que je ne comprend pas c'est ceux qui disent n'importe quoi sans rien connaitre d'un sujet et d'un pays .. Souvent se sont les memes qui approuvent les guerres a conditions qu'ils n'y aillent pas eux meme et preferent envoyer les autres😏.. de meme de faire souffrir leurs animaux chients ou chats voir meme les deux en les maltraitant les privant de liberte cloitres a vie dans des grandes villes, dont le seul droit de l'animal est d'aller chier sur les trottoirs.. Pour ceux qui n'aurait pas bien compris ou lu en diagonale mon explication de comment ca se passe vraiment enThailande, n'ont qu'a me relire mieux, arretter la desinformation et arretter de raconter n'importe quoi en jouant a la pucelle effarouchee.😛 Le but d'une discussion qui dans ce cas est sur la thailande et sa culture est d'informer sur ce qui se passe et de quoi il en est vraiment, au lieu de s'exiter et d'aboyer bettement sans savoir .. Pour le reste, ... style combat de coqs contre Boa etc..pure fantaisie et speculation ca n'existe pas comme pas mal de fantasmes de certains intervenants.. A+😉
Monsieur s'est surement trompe de pays ..On n'est pas en Malaisie, ni aux philippines ni ailleurs.. on est en Thailande😮 Comme quoi il faut etre vigilant sur tout et ne pas laisse dire n'importe quoi !! En Thailande les combats de coqs sont organises partout dans les grandes villes, et les villages tous les WE et meme en semaine..Ca attire des milliers de personnes de tout ages et sexes. Ce que dit ''siditi '' est completement faux ..Toutes les parties tranchantes et dangereuses du coq sont proteges..Il n'y a rien de sanglant, pas de blessures graves sinon pas plus qu'un combat de boxe .. La valeur de l'animal varient entre 5000 et 200 000 baht en general ..je vois mal les thais mettre les coqs a la casseroles ..d'apres vous ??? c'est comme si un jockey voulait bouffer son cheval quand il a perdu une course. Ces animaux sont plus que des animaux de companie, il sont selectionnes choyes et entretenus comme de vrais sportifs sur des criteres bien precis de la race .. Les combats se font par round de 20 mns .la duree est d'environ 5 rounds suivant les niveaux avec arbitre. Certains coqs font en moyenne 1 combat par mois et finissent leur carriere a 5 ans et passent une bonne retraite au milieu des poules .Etre un coq de combat en Thailnde c'est justement d'eviter la casserole .. L'immense majorite des eleveurs et participants aiment leurs animaux comme leur enfants ..C'est culturel en Thailande, n'en deplaise a certain, mais c'est comme ca. Il y a de nombreuses revues specialisees mensuelles des DVD que l'on peut acheter sur les marches etc...etc..Il y a une federation et des controles veterinaires. Qu'on aime pas la corrida je le comprend tres bien c'est cruel, sanglant et disproportionne, qu'on aime pas la boxe on le comprend aussi, qu'on aime pas les combats de coq on le comprend tres bien .. Mais ce que je ne comprend pas c'est ceux qui disent n'importe quoi sans rien connaitre d'un sujet et d'un pays .. Souvent se sont les memes qui approuvent les guerres a conditions qu'ils n'y aillent pas eux meme et preferent envoyer les autres😏.. de meme de faire souffrir leurs animaux chients ou chats voir meme les deux en les maltraitant les privant de liberte cloitres a vie dans des grandes villes, dont le seul droit de l'animal est d'aller chier sur les trottoirs.. Pour ceux qui n'aurait pas bien compris ou lu en diagonale mon explication de comment ca se passe vraiment enThailande, n'ont qu'a me relire mieux, arretter la desinformation et arretter de raconter n'importe quoi en jouant a la pucelle effarouchee.😛 Le but d'une discussion qui dans ce cas est sur la thailande et sa culture est d'informer sur ce qui se passe et de quoi il en est vraiment, au lieu de s'exiter et d'aboyer bettement sans savoir .. Pour le reste, ... style combat de coqs contre Boa etc..pure fantaisie et speculation ca n'existe pas comme pas mal de fantasmes de certains intervenants.. A+😉
Sur l'arbre qui donne des pommes il n'y a pas de citrons...
Tous les combats de coqs que j'ai pu voir (souvent par hazard) ne durait que quelques minutes, voir quelques secondes.Les coqs etaient effectivement equipes de rallonges en forme de petit couteau tranchant comme une lame de rasoir fixees a l'ergot, ce qui explique la rapidite des combats.
Ces combats sont illegals et se deroule dans des endroits non touristique (ou a l'ecart de la vue des touristes).
Carl36 ..Si j'en crois vos dire vous en avez vus plusieurs ... incroyable !!!Dites moi ou exactement et quand !!! Personnellement je n'en ai jamais vu ni entendu parler ni meme aucun Thai parmi lesquels sont des passionnes et au courant de tout ce qui se passe sur ce sujet ..
2 solutions soit vous avez eu plusieurs tristes coup de chance ( plutot de malchance! ) ce qui me paraittrait improbable soit vous etes un menteur pour des raisons qui m'echappent, comme bien d'autres parfois sur d'autres sujet.je prefererais cette solution .
Pour votre gouverne tous les combats de coq en Thailande se deroulent hors endroit touristique, ce qui n'est surement pas une preuve de ce que vous affirmez
2 solutions soit vous avez eu plusieurs tristes coup de chance ( plutot de malchance! ) ce qui me paraittrait improbable soit vous etes un menteur pour des raisons qui m'echappent, comme bien d'autres parfois sur d'autres sujet.je prefererais cette solution .
Pour votre gouverne tous les combats de coq en Thailande se deroulent hors endroit touristique, ce qui n'est surement pas une preuve de ce que vous affirmez
Sur l'arbre qui donne des pommes il n'y a pas de citrons...
Moi, je n'ai rien compris,
çà, on s'en est rendu compte,
pour le reste Notongting t'as donné les bonne réponses, si te donnes la peine de regarder le lien de mon blog sur les combats de coqs, tu auras confirmation, tu te rendra compte qu'il n'y a pas de lames et qu'effectivement ils sont chouchoutés comme des BB,
j'espere que celà rassurera les âmes sensibles
çà, on s'en est rendu compte,
pour le reste Notongting t'as donné les bonne réponses, si te donnes la peine de regarder le lien de mon blog sur les combats de coqs, tu auras confirmation, tu te rendra compte qu'il n'y a pas de lames et qu'effectivement ils sont chouchoutés comme des BB,
j'espere que celà rassurera les âmes sensibles
Pour votre gouverne tous les combats de coq en Thailande se deroulent hors endroit touristique
J'ai assisté à un "combat" de coqs à Samui ...
De loin, mon attention a été attirée par le BRUIT des spectateurs, c'est dire si l'illégalité est à votre porte !
(dans le coin, c'est plutôt les "combats" de boeufs qui sont "traditionnels")
Mais il y a aussi les "combats" de poissons par ici, le saviez-vous ?
Une de nos anciennes amies y a perdu quleques rai de cocoteraie !
Et ce ne sont même pas des piranhas ...
Peut-être que le vaincu finit dans l'huile bien chaude ?
Pour jouer (et parier) tout est bon, je pense que, si le jeu d'argent devenait légal, du jour au lendemain 80% des "joueurs" se désintéresseraient !
J'ai assisté à un "combat" de coqs à Samui ...
De loin, mon attention a été attirée par le BRUIT des spectateurs, c'est dire si l'illégalité est à votre porte !
(dans le coin, c'est plutôt les "combats" de boeufs qui sont "traditionnels")
Mais il y a aussi les "combats" de poissons par ici, le saviez-vous ?
Une de nos anciennes amies y a perdu quleques rai de cocoteraie !
Et ce ne sont même pas des piranhas ...
Peut-être que le vaincu finit dans l'huile bien chaude ?
Pour jouer (et parier) tout est bon, je pense que, si le jeu d'argent devenait légal, du jour au lendemain 80% des "joueurs" se désintéresseraient !
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
combat d'ATM a 2 pattes de preference race gold premier,
également trés prisés,
visibles de la tombée de la nuit au levé du soleil,
se pratique dans tous les lieux a forte concentration farangs
passionnant !
les lieux a forte concentration farangs
Euh ... je croyais que c'était plutôt le "tir" sportif ? 😊
Euh ... je croyais que c'était plutôt le "tir" sportif ? 😊
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Il risque fort de finir dans un KFC ...
Et même PETA ne pourra pas le sauver !
Et même PETA ne pourra pas le sauver !
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
je t'assure qu'a Koh Tao, il y a meme un cockpit construit en dur.Il y a une saison pour ces combats.Quand je dis que j'ai assiste a des combats, c'etait de loin (de la petite hutte d'un ami local situe a 20 m du cockpit)n'en etant pas friand!Les prix que tu indiques correspondent souvent a la valeur des paris.
Ma femme thai me confirme qu'elle a toujours vu les coqs equipes de couteau fixe a l'ergot.
Cependant en Issan, ca ce passe peut-etre differement, je ne connais pas et ma femme non plus.
D'autres voyageurs parlent ici du gallodrome de Koh Tao: http://www.notrepetitmonde.fr/...ie/thailande-37.html
+ quelques photos pour celles et ceux que le sujet intéresse: http://www.dinosoria.com/combat_coq.htm ...
+ quelques photos pour celles et ceux que le sujet intéresse: http://www.dinosoria.com/combat_coq.htm ...
Tout à fait raison !!
Même si je suis mais vraiment pas du tout partisan de ce genre de "sport".
Voici la photo d'un bon ptit coq d'un ami à Chiang Rai, choyer comme un vrai toutou à sa mémère 🙂.
Là il se fait laver, j'ai pu voir les blessures, ça ressemble à de bonnes griffures. Les éperons sont pas obligatoires, en tout cas lui n'en méttais pas son coq pour faire des combats.
Valeur du coq 20.000 Bath.
Ciao
Même si je suis mais vraiment pas du tout partisan de ce genre de "sport".
Voici la photo d'un bon ptit coq d'un ami à Chiang Rai, choyer comme un vrai toutou à sa mémère 🙂.
Là il se fait laver, j'ai pu voir les blessures, ça ressemble à de bonnes griffures. Les éperons sont pas obligatoires, en tout cas lui n'en méttais pas son coq pour faire des combats.
Valeur du coq 20.000 Bath.
Ciao
A Bangkok: grand combat de coqs devant le MBK. 😏
http://www.lepetitjournal.com/content/view/36316/1013/
@+
Thibaut
A Bangkok: grand combat de coqs devant le MBK. 😏
http://www.lepetitjournal.com/...ent/view/36316/1013/Je dirais que ton avatar exprime bien la nature de ta blague...mdr
IL Y A 192 PAYS DANS LE MONDE, ALORS NE REVEZ PLUS.....PARTEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ma femme thai me confirme qu'elle a toujours vu les coqs equipes de couteau fixe a l'ergot.
Cependant en Issan, ca ce passe peut-etre differement, je ne connais pas et ma femme non plus.
Je suis desole Carl26, mais permet moi d'insister !!! Dans toute la thailande du Nord de L'I-ssan au sud du pays, les combats sont reglementes et jamais aucune arme n'est fixee aux ergots ..Les ergots sont parfois tres pointus naturellement, mais dans tous les cas ils sont proteges par 3 tours de bande..Les combats se font par categorie et le gagnant ne tue jamais son adversaire..C'est exeptionnellement rare
Ce n'est pas dans la mentalite ni dans la religion des thais d'organiser des pratiques sanglantes...
Les combats de coqs sont tres populaires en Thailande et cela pour des raisons culturelles mais surtout historiques ..A l'epoque le roi "Naresuan" etait un passionne et a eviter des batailles contre les birmans en organisant des combats de coq contre le roi birman...Un melange de legende et aussi de verite..
D'ailleurs il existe une race de coq qui se nomme "Naresuan"..Pour info vous n'obtiendrez jamais un coq a moins de 10 000 baht ..
Certains coqs depassent largement 200 000 baht car se sont des animaux magnifiques et exeptionnel ...le rpix minimum est de 3000 baht pour un poussin ou jeune coq de 4 mois ...Pour les Thais c'est enorme et pensez vous bien qu'il n'ont pas le sens du sacrifice, de maniere a faire souffrir l'animal..Pas en Thailande en tout cas..
Pour info www.gaichonmagazine.co.th
Alors la valeur des paris peuvent aller jusqu'a plus de 2 Millions de Baht au stadium de combat du park Kao Yai de Korat ..Dans ce cas la valeur du coq depasse toujours 500 000 baht..
Pour les combats de village c'est environ 5000 baht de moyenne pour les niveaux les plus bas...
Encore une fois, les coqs sont de vrais sportifs entraines et ne finissent pas a la casserole, contrairement aux idees recues..Ils vivent libre parfois isoles avant les combats, toujours bien soignes s'il y a des blessures au meme titre que de vrais sportifs ou boxeurs..c'est toujours tres spectaculaire et parfois violent..Mais pas de maltraitance .
A+😉
Je suis desole Carl26, mais permet moi d'insister !!! Dans toute la thailande du Nord de L'I-ssan au sud du pays, les combats sont reglementes et jamais aucune arme n'est fixee aux ergots ..Les ergots sont parfois tres pointus naturellement, mais dans tous les cas ils sont proteges par 3 tours de bande..Les combats se font par categorie et le gagnant ne tue jamais son adversaire..C'est exeptionnellement rare
Ce n'est pas dans la mentalite ni dans la religion des thais d'organiser des pratiques sanglantes...
Les combats de coqs sont tres populaires en Thailande et cela pour des raisons culturelles mais surtout historiques ..A l'epoque le roi "Naresuan" etait un passionne et a eviter des batailles contre les birmans en organisant des combats de coq contre le roi birman...Un melange de legende et aussi de verite..
D'ailleurs il existe une race de coq qui se nomme "Naresuan"..Pour info vous n'obtiendrez jamais un coq a moins de 10 000 baht ..
Certains coqs depassent largement 200 000 baht car se sont des animaux magnifiques et exeptionnel ...le rpix minimum est de 3000 baht pour un poussin ou jeune coq de 4 mois ...Pour les Thais c'est enorme et pensez vous bien qu'il n'ont pas le sens du sacrifice, de maniere a faire souffrir l'animal..Pas en Thailande en tout cas..
Pour info www.gaichonmagazine.co.th
Alors la valeur des paris peuvent aller jusqu'a plus de 2 Millions de Baht au stadium de combat du park Kao Yai de Korat ..Dans ce cas la valeur du coq depasse toujours 500 000 baht..
Pour les combats de village c'est environ 5000 baht de moyenne pour les niveaux les plus bas...
Encore une fois, les coqs sont de vrais sportifs entraines et ne finissent pas a la casserole, contrairement aux idees recues..Ils vivent libre parfois isoles avant les combats, toujours bien soignes s'il y a des blessures au meme titre que de vrais sportifs ou boxeurs..c'est toujours tres spectaculaire et parfois violent..Mais pas de maltraitance .
A+😉
Sur l'arbre qui donne des pommes il n'y a pas de citrons...
Salut,
Bon, je suis resté 1 an en thailande et la pucelle éfarouchée te conseil de sortir un peu des sentiers battu avant d'affirmer que tu connais "tout" en thailande, ce qui est dommage car une partie de ta réponse est aussi vrai et intéresante ....mais comme tu es sur place il n'est pas trops tard pour continuer a découvrir... bye bye
Vivement que je repartes !!!
Sididi
Salut, J'ai assisté a des combats de coqs a chang mai . Pour commençer, ils essayent de se crever les yeux puis se saute dessus avec leurs "éperons tranchants" en métal, quand un coq est trops blessé, on arrête le combat, on le soigne et on le remet dans l'arène jusqu'au moment ou il est bon pour la casserole ou le repos forcé pour un autre combat la semaine suivante...le publique crie et parie. Moi, je n'ai rien compris, même après plusieurs combats, je ne savais jamais lequel avait gagné . Conclusion, ambiance sanglante et limite...mais le publique etait sympa et se demandait ce que l'on faisait la, a certain moment moi ausii...bye bye
Quand j'ai lu ca, je ne savais pas s'il fallait rire ou pleurer !!! 😮😮😮
Quand j'ai lu ca, je ne savais pas s'il fallait rire ou pleurer !!! 😮😮😮
Sur l'arbre qui donne des pommes il n'y a pas de citrons...
Salut,
Bon, je suis resté 1 an en thailande et la pucelle éfarouchée te conseil de sortir un peu des sentiers battu avant d'affirmer ....mais comme tu es sur place il n'est pas trops tard pour continuer a découvrir... bye bye
Alors la, par contre je ris a en pleurer !!!😏😏😏
Alors la, par contre je ris a en pleurer !!!😏😏😏
Sur l'arbre qui donne des pommes il n'y a pas de citrons...
Bon, je ne connais pas assez la Thaïlande, MAIS suffisamment pour avoir compris que s'il existe des règles, alors forcément il y a beaucoup de "contrevenants" !
Et ceci est vrai pour toutes les activités "humaines" ...
J'ajouterais que la "maltraitance", c'est le fait de faire combattre entre-eux des animaux pour SON plaisir, que bien sûr les coqs sont choyés par leur propriétaires (vu le prix, c'est peu étonnant).
Quant à l'impression de voir deux "boules de plumes" indistinguables se castagner, je l'ai eu aussi et çà n'a pas éveillé mon intérêt (ni non plus mon estime pour les gallinacés, d'ailleurs).
Et ceci est vrai pour toutes les activités "humaines" ...
J'ajouterais que la "maltraitance", c'est le fait de faire combattre entre-eux des animaux pour SON plaisir, que bien sûr les coqs sont choyés par leur propriétaires (vu le prix, c'est peu étonnant).
Quant à l'impression de voir deux "boules de plumes" indistinguables se castagner, je l'ai eu aussi et çà n'a pas éveillé mon intérêt (ni non plus mon estime pour les gallinacés, d'ailleurs).
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
J'ajouterais que la "maltraitance", c'est le fait de faire combattre entre-eux des animaux pour SON plaisir, que bien sûr les coqs sont choyés par leur propriétaires (vu le prix, c'est peu étonnant).
Quant à l'impression de voir deux "boules de plumes" indistinguables se castagner, je l'ai eu aussi et çà n'a pas éveillé mon intérêt (ni non plus mon estime pour les gallinacés, d'ailleurs).
C'est pour ca que toi tu preferes peut etre les bouffer, , c'est pas le meme prix ni plus distinguable..Mais je pense que tu dois etre vegetarien a tes heures!. On n'a pas la meme notion de maltraitance, ni la maniere de gerer sa propre nature humaine sur le plaisir qu'on peut tirer d'un animal...
Ceci dit je respecte ton point de vu, qui est la premiere reaction et commentaire de quelques de personnes qui changent d'avis et de commentaires apres avoir mieux compris et vu sur place de quoi il en est ..Pourquoi ?? parce que la nature humaine est attiree par ce qui est intrigant ce qui touche a la vie, a la souffrance, mais aussi au bonheur....
Je ne defend pas les combats de coq, j'essaye d'expliquer ce qu'il en est dans mon pays d'acceuil, que j'aime et prend comme il est. D'autres sujet d'exasperation un peu plus serieux et qui me touchent plus que la volaille en cuisine existent et son geres d'une autre maniere que nous, "occidentaux"..
Les oiseaux j'aime bien, entre autre les gallinaces, ..surtout les poules..Crois moi qu'a Samui c'est pas ce qui manque..😏
Amicalement😉
Quant à l'impression de voir deux "boules de plumes" indistinguables se castagner, je l'ai eu aussi et çà n'a pas éveillé mon intérêt (ni non plus mon estime pour les gallinacés, d'ailleurs).
C'est pour ca que toi tu preferes peut etre les bouffer, , c'est pas le meme prix ni plus distinguable..Mais je pense que tu dois etre vegetarien a tes heures!. On n'a pas la meme notion de maltraitance, ni la maniere de gerer sa propre nature humaine sur le plaisir qu'on peut tirer d'un animal...
Ceci dit je respecte ton point de vu, qui est la premiere reaction et commentaire de quelques de personnes qui changent d'avis et de commentaires apres avoir mieux compris et vu sur place de quoi il en est ..Pourquoi ?? parce que la nature humaine est attiree par ce qui est intrigant ce qui touche a la vie, a la souffrance, mais aussi au bonheur....
Je ne defend pas les combats de coq, j'essaye d'expliquer ce qu'il en est dans mon pays d'acceuil, que j'aime et prend comme il est. D'autres sujet d'exasperation un peu plus serieux et qui me touchent plus que la volaille en cuisine existent et son geres d'une autre maniere que nous, "occidentaux"..
Les oiseaux j'aime bien, entre autre les gallinaces, ..surtout les poules..Crois moi qu'a Samui c'est pas ce qui manque..😏
Amicalement😉
Sur l'arbre qui donne des pommes il n'y a pas de citrons...
Les oiseaux j'aime bien
C'est pour çà que j'avais mentionné les concours de chant d'oiseaux ...
Sans succès aucun, allez donc savoir pourquoi 😉
C'est clean, non-violent, les zozios sont aussi choyés "comme des sultans" (expression du sud) et leur valeur peut être absolument inouïe (plusieurs centaines de milliers de bahts).
En plus, petit détail, çà me paraît plus "bouddhiste", même si c'est plus répandu chez les musulmans.
Je ne suis pas "végétarien", même si je mange un max de légumes, simplement lorsque je mange de la viande c'est pour me nourrir, pas parce que j'ai (directement ou indirectement) fait "souffrir" des animaux.
Mais, je ne suis pas extrêmiste non plus, je ne vais pas à la corrida (10 minutes m'ont suffi il y a bien longtemps), je ne vais pas aux combats de coq ni aux combats de taureaux (assez sanglants parfois, même si non mortels) et encore moins aux "combats de poissons" (avec le ridicule en plus) ...
Et ce même pas pour manifester contre en portant des pancartes (ou en me mettant à poil -cf. PETA), un simple "boycott".
Cà c'était pour les "justifications", j'adore la Thaïlande mais il y a des "trucs" qui me débectent aussi, et ceci comme partout.
C'est mon opinion et elle vaut ce qu'elle vaut, les anglos disent "I beg to differ" (j'adore cette formule pour son exquise politesse).
C'est pour çà que j'avais mentionné les concours de chant d'oiseaux ...
Sans succès aucun, allez donc savoir pourquoi 😉
C'est clean, non-violent, les zozios sont aussi choyés "comme des sultans" (expression du sud) et leur valeur peut être absolument inouïe (plusieurs centaines de milliers de bahts).
En plus, petit détail, çà me paraît plus "bouddhiste", même si c'est plus répandu chez les musulmans.
Je ne suis pas "végétarien", même si je mange un max de légumes, simplement lorsque je mange de la viande c'est pour me nourrir, pas parce que j'ai (directement ou indirectement) fait "souffrir" des animaux.
Mais, je ne suis pas extrêmiste non plus, je ne vais pas à la corrida (10 minutes m'ont suffi il y a bien longtemps), je ne vais pas aux combats de coq ni aux combats de taureaux (assez sanglants parfois, même si non mortels) et encore moins aux "combats de poissons" (avec le ridicule en plus) ...
Et ce même pas pour manifester contre en portant des pancartes (ou en me mettant à poil -cf. PETA), un simple "boycott".
Cà c'était pour les "justifications", j'adore la Thaïlande mais il y a des "trucs" qui me débectent aussi, et ceci comme partout.
C'est mon opinion et elle vaut ce qu'elle vaut, les anglos disent "I beg to differ" (j'adore cette formule pour son exquise politesse).
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Sans les combats de coqs tel qu'ils existent en Thailande se serait la disparition d'une espece, meme si elle est de par sa nature tres aggressive, et paradoxalement non envers l'homme..Comme quoi la vie nous enseigne qu'il y a une contrepartie a tout ...Un juste equilibre..
Quand aux combats de coqs sanglants tels qu'ils se pratiquent dans certains pays, j'avoue que ce n'est pas du tout ma tasse de the...Je le condamne tres fermement . Car ceux qui font ca un animal peuvent le faire a un homme ou a ses propres enfants..
MengWan!, Mon opinion ne vaut pas plus que la tienne ni celle de personne d'autre, l'important c'est de la donner en personne responsable de ce qu'on avance surtout sans desinformer ..ce qui n'est pas le cas de certains intervenants ..
Un 😉 a tous mes amis Belges de Thailande passionnes de combats de coqs
A+😏
Quand aux combats de coqs sanglants tels qu'ils se pratiquent dans certains pays, j'avoue que ce n'est pas du tout ma tasse de the...Je le condamne tres fermement . Car ceux qui font ca un animal peuvent le faire a un homme ou a ses propres enfants..
MengWan!, Mon opinion ne vaut pas plus que la tienne ni celle de personne d'autre, l'important c'est de la donner en personne responsable de ce qu'on avance surtout sans desinformer ..ce qui n'est pas le cas de certains intervenants ..
Un 😉 a tous mes amis Belges de Thailande passionnes de combats de coqs
A+😏
Sur l'arbre qui donne des pommes il n'y a pas de citrons...
Un 😉 a tous mes amis Belges de Thailande passionnes de combats de coqs
Et moi de même à tous les coqs gaulois, sans oublier les gauloises que je ne fume plus non plus ...
😎😎😎😎
NB:Je ne pense pas que quiconque "désinforme" en racontant ce qu'il a vu, simplement qu'il n'a pas vu la même chose que vous !
Et moi de même à tous les coqs gaulois, sans oublier les gauloises que je ne fume plus non plus ...
😎😎😎😎
NB:Je ne pense pas que quiconque "désinforme" en racontant ce qu'il a vu, simplement qu'il n'a pas vu la même chose que vous !
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Un 😉 a tous mes amis Belges de Thailande passionnes de combats de coqs
Et moi de même à tous les coqs gaulois, sans oublier les gauloises que je ne fume plus non plus ...
😎😎😎😎
NB:Je ne pense pas que quiconque "désinforme" en racontant ce qu'il a vu, simplement qu'il n'a pas vu la même chose que vous !
OK OK OK . < Mais le probleme c'est que personne n'a vu ca !!!! ... j'en suis plus que sur et persuade. Sinon de raconter du flan et des mensonges pour des raisons que j'ignorent !!
La preuve en est, que dans des combats de coqs normaux et controles, dont la regle de base est avant tout le respect de l'animal, non loin d'endroits touristiques au cas ou ceux la se perdraient 😉, aucun farang n'est potentiellement admis..
DONC dans le cas site qui serait un combat immoral a l'encontre des regles historiques et du bouddhisme, c'est absolument impossible, sinon un farang natif du royaume quoi que la mafia veuille bien l'accepter..
Desole mais je me dois dans ce cas la de ne pas laisser dire n'importe quoi .
J'en profite de dire que plus de 50% des posts de tous sujets concernant la thailande de personnes cachees devant un clavier ou en "sous marin" de tous forums sont des anneries venant de mythos incurrables.
Aussi je retiens les 50% qui restent..du Vrai 'BON' dont beaucoup se servent pour passer les meilleures vacances du monde...
NOTONGTING
😉
Et moi de même à tous les coqs gaulois, sans oublier les gauloises que je ne fume plus non plus ...
😎😎😎😎
NB:Je ne pense pas que quiconque "désinforme" en racontant ce qu'il a vu, simplement qu'il n'a pas vu la même chose que vous !
OK OK OK . < Mais le probleme c'est que personne n'a vu ca !!!! ... j'en suis plus que sur et persuade. Sinon de raconter du flan et des mensonges pour des raisons que j'ignorent !!
La preuve en est, que dans des combats de coqs normaux et controles, dont la regle de base est avant tout le respect de l'animal, non loin d'endroits touristiques au cas ou ceux la se perdraient 😉, aucun farang n'est potentiellement admis..
DONC dans le cas site qui serait un combat immoral a l'encontre des regles historiques et du bouddhisme, c'est absolument impossible, sinon un farang natif du royaume quoi que la mafia veuille bien l'accepter..
Desole mais je me dois dans ce cas la de ne pas laisser dire n'importe quoi .
J'en profite de dire que plus de 50% des posts de tous sujets concernant la thailande de personnes cachees devant un clavier ou en "sous marin" de tous forums sont des anneries venant de mythos incurrables.
Aussi je retiens les 50% qui restent..du Vrai 'BON' dont beaucoup se servent pour passer les meilleures vacances du monde...
NOTONGTING
😉
Sur l'arbre qui donne des pommes il n'y a pas de citrons...
Je suis bien d'accord avec toi pour la quantite de mythos sur les forums.
Il y a aussi une autre categorie de forumers :Ceux qui sont ou qui vont depuis si longtemps en Thailande qu'ils ont du mal a accepter les idees et les decouvertes des autres, comme si ils avaient la science infuse.
Ps :Je vais bientot rendre visite a mon ami a Koh Tao je te promais que je ferais des photos et les posterais.Ca ne sera pas par plaisir....
Bonjour a tous,
Notongting a l'aire très énervées contre la stupidité humaine, ce qui est tous a fait légitime.Perso, dernier voyage effectuer en thailande septembre-octobre 2008, j'ai vu en coup de vent un match de coqs vers Chang rai, et c'est un voisin(amis de ma copine) qui ma emmener voir ce "spectacle".
Je suis affirmatif lorque je dit que les coqs sont bichonnaient, vu leur pris (on ma dit que les champions vallent tres chere), donc si on applique une logique, comment voulez-vous qu'il mettent des lamme aux pattes, si leur petit rejeton meur lors d 'un combat.
Il se tire une balle dans la tete si le coqs vaut 50000 baths.
Merci pour vos lumieres
IL Y A 192 PAYS DANS LE MONDE, ALORS NE REVEZ PLUS.....PARTEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do not speak ! Do it 😐
Sur l'arbre qui donne des pommes il n'y a pas de citrons...
Do not speak ! Do it Dubitatif
je vois que tu fais des progrés en pasalao
je vois que tu fais des progrés en pasalao
Do not speak ! Do it Dubitatif
je vois que tu fais des progrés en pasalao
Mais non Obeo, je travaille a fond mon pasaKamen, ca va degommer grave !😏
je vois que tu fais des progrés en pasalao
Mais non Obeo, je travaille a fond mon pasaKamen, ca va degommer grave !😏
Sur l'arbre qui donne des pommes il n'y a pas de citrons...
bonjour je voudrai savoir si vous habitez en thailande ?je suis éleveur de coq de combat en france et je recherche des souche pure et a tout hasard pouriez vous m aider a avoir des contacts pour acheter des oeuf que je ramènerai en france .je serai très reconnaissant de se servir je part un peu a l aventure j aurai besoin d aide lol merci
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After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
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Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
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Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.







