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bonjour
je cherche les possibilités pour gagner la thailande en train ou bateau cargo , le coût, la durée et la sécurité d'un tel voyage merci à ceux qui en ont fait l'expérience
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Paris-Bangkok en train: coût, durée et sécurité?
by Polyxenerous
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
BJR
J'ai un cousin qui à fait toutes la Russie en Train (de L'ouest à l'Est = 7980 km environ ) et il à mis 8J et 8 Nuits pour le faire !.(avec les arrêts = environs 80km /h de moyenne )
je panse sans le savoir exectement que pour faire 13 500km par voie terestre depuis Paris vers Bangkok qu'il va sfaloir au moin le double donc 15 à 16 jours probalement !.
Coût = aucune idée !, ..... mais surement moins cher que l'avion !.😄....(pas normal car bcp + long !??, .... mais on ne payent pas par rapport à la distance parcouru, .... mais par rapport à la bétise de cului qui décide d'un "truc" pareil !..."donc moins cher si plus long"🤪 et plus éloigné!!??....et aussi si plus chient et plus dengereux )
Par cargo = 22 -25 jours environs !(d'apres les donnés maritimes sur le trajet fait par les "cargos" partant du Havre (France)..si la méteo est bonne !?...sinon jusqu'a 30 jours !. Securité = "aucune" !!!...ou très "précaire" (tu traversera plains de pays et chaque pays = sont lot d'insecurité jusqu'a Thailand !.) En tout cas, .... pour une idée (de fous ) c'est une idée !!??..pour quoi pas si tu à bcp de temps devant toi ! Bravo en tout cas si tu prends cette décision !!..je n'ai jamais antendu une histoire pareil !...de toutes ma vie !!, ....et pourtant je croyez que j'ai vu et enttendu de ces "trucs", .... mais cela c'est du "top- tout- bon" !!!.
Bon périple !!!..et bon vent si tu prend le cargo surtout !!!!???(celui qui transporte du "charbon" ou du "pétrole brut" sont très confortables parait-il !!.🏴☠️😕🤪😏😊😎, ..surtout dans la soute !!!) Tu est completement " F....s " !!!..mais comme c'est rare des gars comme toi , ... je te dis grand BRAVOOO!...même si tu ne prend pas ces "moyens de transport déstiné aux béstiaux"!!, ... et non pas aux humains normalement constitués et sains d'ésprit !!! Tu ment !!, ....tu ne fera pas cela !!???...je ne crois pas à une histoire pareils !!. F
Par cargo = 22 -25 jours environs !(d'apres les donnés maritimes sur le trajet fait par les "cargos" partant du Havre (France)..si la méteo est bonne !?...sinon jusqu'a 30 jours !. Securité = "aucune" !!!...ou très "précaire" (tu traversera plains de pays et chaque pays = sont lot d'insecurité jusqu'a Thailand !.) En tout cas, .... pour une idée (de fous ) c'est une idée !!??..pour quoi pas si tu à bcp de temps devant toi ! Bravo en tout cas si tu prends cette décision !!..je n'ai jamais antendu une histoire pareil !...de toutes ma vie !!, ....et pourtant je croyez que j'ai vu et enttendu de ces "trucs", .... mais cela c'est du "top- tout- bon" !!!.
Bon périple !!!..et bon vent si tu prend le cargo surtout !!!!???(celui qui transporte du "charbon" ou du "pétrole brut" sont très confortables parait-il !!.🏴☠️😕🤪😏😊😎, ..surtout dans la soute !!!) Tu est completement " F....s " !!!..mais comme c'est rare des gars comme toi , ... je te dis grand BRAVOOO!...même si tu ne prend pas ces "moyens de transport déstiné aux béstiaux"!!, ... et non pas aux humains normalement constitués et sains d'ésprit !!! Tu ment !!, ....tu ne fera pas cela !!???...je ne crois pas à une histoire pareils !!. F
Je vais essayer d'être un peu plus constructif que le message précédent... Le plus simple est de prendre le train de nuit Paris - Moscou qui part de la capitale tous les samedis soirs. En fait c'est un wagon russe accroché au c... du train de nuit Paris - Berlin qui a à Berlin est ensuite raccroché à un autre train qui va à Moscou. Mais tu ne changes pas de wagon. Par contre tu auras le temps de te balader dans Berlin car le train arrive vers les 9h et l'autre train repart vers 15h. Je pense que tu dois pouvoir laisser tes bagages dans ton compartiment (objets de valeur à garder de préférence sur soi). Ce billet doit pouvoir être acheté depuis un guichet SNCF. Durée du trajet Paris - Moscou à peu près 40 heures.
Au-delà de Moscou il faut prendre le transsibérien / transmongolien qui t'emmène à Pékin. Certains jours il faut changer à Irkutsk, certains jours c'est direct. Attention je ne suis pas sûr qu'il y ait des départs tous les jours. Les billets de train peuvent être achetés par internet auprès de l'agence RealRussia (http://www.realrussia.co.uk/main_train_screen.asp) ou via une agence de voyage. Il existe peut-être des combines pour le payer moins cher, mais je ne suis pas au courant. Le trajet Moscou - Pékin est très à la mode chez les touristes, donc même s'il faut rester vigilant (et privilégier les cabines doubles, éviter les Platzkart) la sécurité est relativement bonne. Durée du trajet Moscou - Pékin: 132h, parfois plus, parfois moins.
Pour avoir une idée horaire de la section Paris - Pékin regarde sur www.bahn.fr
Au-delà de Pékin je ne sais pas mais va voir sur le site www.seat61.com tu trouveras des infos sur les trains dans chacun des Pays que tu traverseras. Ils résument bien l'itinéraire global, je te fais un copier coller ci-dessous:
If you have the time (we're talking a minimum of 3 weeks one-way), you can travel from London to Bangkok overland. The links below cover travel in either direction, from London or to London: · Step 1: London to Moscow by train. Daily departures, 2 nights, from about £160 one-way with sleeper. Spend at least 1 night in Moscow. · Step 2: Moscow to Beijing by Trans-Siberian Railway Two trains a week, 6 nights, from about $450 one-way in 4-bed sleeper. Spend at least 1 night in Beijing. · Step 3: Beijing to Hanoi by train Two trains a week, 2 nights, about $150 or £75 one-way in soft sleeper. Spend at least 1 night in Hanoi. · Step 4: Hanoi to Saigon by train Several trains daily, 2 nights. Why not stop off to see Hue or Hoi An? About $80 or £40 one-way in soft sleeper. · Step 5: Saigon-Phnom Penh by bus Daily, 1 day. Spend at least 1 night in PP. · Step 6: Phnom Penh-Battambang by train or bus, bus to the frontier, train to Bangkok. There aren't any travel agencies who can arrange the whole trip, so you will need to plan it out and arrange each stage of the journey yourself. It's an exercise in project management! Unless time is absolutely no object, you should book the key sections in advance through various travel agencies, for example, book London-Moscow through a UK European train ticketing agency such as DB's UK office or europeanrail.com, then book Moscow-Beijing & Beijing-Hanoi through a local Russian agency such as Svezhy Veter or www.realrussia.co.uk. Tickets for other parts of the trip, for example, Hanoi-Saigon-Phnom Penh-Bangkok can all be bought locally, as you go along. You'll need to pre-arrange visas for Belarus, Russia, possibly Mongolia, China & Vietnam, and in many ways complying with the various visa requirements (and in some cases, requirements for confirmed onward tickets to be held) is actually the biggest hassle, not buying the tickets for the trains, so check this out carefully using the relevant embassy websites.
Sois en tout cas conscient que le trajet te coutera beaucoup beaucoup plus cher qu'en avion, ne serait-ce que parce que tu mets plusieurs trains bout à bout avec chacun son billet, mais aussi parce que pendant tout le temps du voyage il faut bien vivre. Par contre c'est une expérience à mon avis unique. Si tu comptes t'organiser plus de voyages comme ça à travers le monde, les éditions Thomas Cook Publishing éditent 2 fois par an un guide horaire mondial des trains, un volume étant consacré à l'Europe et un autre au reste du monde.
Et pense en tout cas à prévoir ton voyage longtemps à l'avance, notamment pour les visas. Il t'en faudra pour les Pays que tu visiteras mais aussi pour ceux que ton train traversera, même si tu ne descends pas (on appelle ça les visas de transit).
Bon voyage
Adrien
Et bon le post précédent c'est moyen...
Au-delà de Moscou il faut prendre le transsibérien / transmongolien qui t'emmène à Pékin. Certains jours il faut changer à Irkutsk, certains jours c'est direct. Attention je ne suis pas sûr qu'il y ait des départs tous les jours. Les billets de train peuvent être achetés par internet auprès de l'agence RealRussia (http://www.realrussia.co.uk/main_train_screen.asp) ou via une agence de voyage. Il existe peut-être des combines pour le payer moins cher, mais je ne suis pas au courant. Le trajet Moscou - Pékin est très à la mode chez les touristes, donc même s'il faut rester vigilant (et privilégier les cabines doubles, éviter les Platzkart) la sécurité est relativement bonne. Durée du trajet Moscou - Pékin: 132h, parfois plus, parfois moins.
Pour avoir une idée horaire de la section Paris - Pékin regarde sur www.bahn.fr
Au-delà de Pékin je ne sais pas mais va voir sur le site www.seat61.com tu trouveras des infos sur les trains dans chacun des Pays que tu traverseras. Ils résument bien l'itinéraire global, je te fais un copier coller ci-dessous:
If you have the time (we're talking a minimum of 3 weeks one-way), you can travel from London to Bangkok overland. The links below cover travel in either direction, from London or to London: · Step 1: London to Moscow by train. Daily departures, 2 nights, from about £160 one-way with sleeper. Spend at least 1 night in Moscow. · Step 2: Moscow to Beijing by Trans-Siberian Railway Two trains a week, 6 nights, from about $450 one-way in 4-bed sleeper. Spend at least 1 night in Beijing. · Step 3: Beijing to Hanoi by train Two trains a week, 2 nights, about $150 or £75 one-way in soft sleeper. Spend at least 1 night in Hanoi. · Step 4: Hanoi to Saigon by train Several trains daily, 2 nights. Why not stop off to see Hue or Hoi An? About $80 or £40 one-way in soft sleeper. · Step 5: Saigon-Phnom Penh by bus Daily, 1 day. Spend at least 1 night in PP. · Step 6: Phnom Penh-Battambang by train or bus, bus to the frontier, train to Bangkok. There aren't any travel agencies who can arrange the whole trip, so you will need to plan it out and arrange each stage of the journey yourself. It's an exercise in project management! Unless time is absolutely no object, you should book the key sections in advance through various travel agencies, for example, book London-Moscow through a UK European train ticketing agency such as DB's UK office or europeanrail.com, then book Moscow-Beijing & Beijing-Hanoi through a local Russian agency such as Svezhy Veter or www.realrussia.co.uk. Tickets for other parts of the trip, for example, Hanoi-Saigon-Phnom Penh-Bangkok can all be bought locally, as you go along. You'll need to pre-arrange visas for Belarus, Russia, possibly Mongolia, China & Vietnam, and in many ways complying with the various visa requirements (and in some cases, requirements for confirmed onward tickets to be held) is actually the biggest hassle, not buying the tickets for the trains, so check this out carefully using the relevant embassy websites.
Sois en tout cas conscient que le trajet te coutera beaucoup beaucoup plus cher qu'en avion, ne serait-ce que parce que tu mets plusieurs trains bout à bout avec chacun son billet, mais aussi parce que pendant tout le temps du voyage il faut bien vivre. Par contre c'est une expérience à mon avis unique. Si tu comptes t'organiser plus de voyages comme ça à travers le monde, les éditions Thomas Cook Publishing éditent 2 fois par an un guide horaire mondial des trains, un volume étant consacré à l'Europe et un autre au reste du monde.
Et pense en tout cas à prévoir ton voyage longtemps à l'avance, notamment pour les visas. Il t'en faudra pour les Pays que tu visiteras mais aussi pour ceux que ton train traversera, même si tu ne descends pas (on appelle ça les visas de transit).
Bon voyage
Adrien
Et bon le post précédent c'est moyen...
en bus c'est possible là http://www.oz-bus.com/home.aspx
c'est loin d'etre moins cher que l'avion mais c'est deja tout un voyage en lui meme
pour les cargos en general c'est hors de prix car c'est pension complete
pour les cargos en general c'est hors de prix car c'est pension complete
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Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)