Prix d'un trajet Bangkok - Koh Samui en train et ferry?
by Beep62
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonsoir, après des recherches infructueuses, je me tourne vers vous:
quelqu'un connaitrait-il le prix d'un billet de train+ferry de bangkok vers samui de préférence de nuit pour arriver en fin de matinée sur l'ile en couchette avec clim pour 2 adultes et 1 enfant (5ans)?
j'ai bien envisagé la solution air asia+ferry, mais ça fait se lever tôt, arriver en avance a l'aéroport et finir a samui en fin d'après-midi, donc peut-être vaut-il mieux dormir la nuit en train et profiter de la plage en arrivant en fin de matinée.
merci
Bonsoir, après des recherches infructueuses, je me tourne vers vous:
quelqu'un connaitrait-il le prix d'un billet de train+ferry de bangkok vers samui de préférence de nuit pour arriver en fin de matinée sur l'ile en couchette avec clim pour 2 adultes et 1 enfant (5ans)?
j'ai bien envisagé la solution air asia+ferry, mais ça fait se lever tôt, arriver en avance a l'aéroport et finir a samui en fin d'après-midi, donc peut-être vaut-il mieux dormir la nuit en train et profiter de la plage en arrivant en fin de matinée.
merci
Bsr, http://www.samui-info.com/transport/train.html
Je ne suis pas sûr de comprendre "solution air asia+ferry, "...???
Bsr, http://www.samui-info.com/transport/train.html
Je ne suis pas sûr de comprendre "solution air asia+ferry, "...???
Chacun possède la force créatrice de l'univers. Il crée sa réalité et se doit d'en assumer les conséquences.
Le Bouddha Gautama, vers 500 av J.C.
Bonsoir, javais bien trouvé cette page sur samui info, mais j'ai du mal a calculer....
pour le train rapide n°41 en 2ème classe: 653 baths et on ajoute la majoration couchette du bas a 270 baths donc si je comprends bien on pars de bangkok et on arrive a samui pour 653+270.....923 baths bus et ferry compris?
Quand je dis la solution air asia je voulais dire bangkok/surratttani puis bus bateau mais vu les horaires proposés par air asia(départ 13h30 ou 15h40)+le bus +le bateau, la journée est réservée aux transports.
merci
Bonsoir, javais bien trouvé cette page sur samui info, mais j'ai du mal a calculer....
pour le train rapide n°41 en 2ème classe: 653 baths et on ajoute la majoration couchette du bas a 270 baths donc si je comprends bien on pars de bangkok et on arrive a samui pour 653+270.....923 baths bus et ferry compris?
Quand je dis la solution air asia je voulais dire bangkok/surratttani puis bus bateau mais vu les horaires proposés par air asia(départ 13h30 ou 15h40)+le bus +le bateau, la journée est réservée aux transports.
merci
...En admettant que les tarifs sont à la page...avez-vous songé à un vol direct BKK-Koh Samui? C'ets plus cher, mais vous gagnez 2 jours sur le total du séjour, ...Preqque 2 nuitées...
...En admettant que les tarifs sont à la page...avez-vous songé à un vol direct BKK-Koh Samui? C'ets plus cher, mais vous gagnez 2 jours sur le total du séjour, ...Preqque 2 nuitées...
Chacun possède la force créatrice de l'univers. Il crée sa réalité et se doit d'en assumer les conséquences.
Le Bouddha Gautama, vers 500 av J.C.
Bien sur que j'y ai pensé, dernièrement j'avais opté pour cette solution mais cela nous avait couté 130 euros par personne (bkk airways) et cette fois nous voyageons a trois, et puis ça peut être une expérience sympa d'après ce que j'ai lu....
Quand je dis la solution air asia je voulais dire bangkok/surratttani puis bus bateau mais vu les horaires proposés par air asia(départ 13h30 ou 15h40)+le bus +le bateau, la journée est réservée aux transports.
merci
Marrant moi j'ai pris Air Asia à 11h45 de Bkk pour arriver à Surat à 13h puis tranfert bus+ferry et arrivée à Samui à 15h !! En tout environ 1 500 baths (950 =550) et 3heures de trajet !!
Le train = 800 bahts par couchette + ferry (4h de bateau et 800 bahts !)
VOILA TU DOIS AVOIR CONCLU QUOI FAIRE 😛😛
Marrant moi j'ai pris Air Asia à 11h45 de Bkk pour arriver à Surat à 13h puis tranfert bus+ferry et arrivée à Samui à 15h !! En tout environ 1 500 baths (950 =550) et 3heures de trajet !!
Le train = 800 bahts par couchette + ferry (4h de bateau et 800 bahts !)
VOILA TU DOIS AVOIR CONCLU QUOI FAIRE 😛😛
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
...En admettant que les tarifs sont à la page...avez-vous songé à un vol direct BKK-Koh Samui?
Au risque de me répeter Bangkok Airways c'est 4 500 bahts/personne alors que de passer par Surat reviens à 1 500 bahts et à 3 ca fait 9 000 bahts d"économie... Tout simplement 😛
Au risque de me répeter Bangkok Airways c'est 4 500 bahts/personne alors que de passer par Surat reviens à 1 500 bahts et à 3 ca fait 9 000 bahts d"économie... Tout simplement 😛
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Bsr, houps, j'ai effectivement gaffé dans les horaires air asia, j'ai cité les vols retours.
j'avais envie de tenter l'expérience en train...mais
11h45 bkk/15h samui vu comme ça, y a pas photo, je ne pensais pas que 2 heures suffisaient pour le bus + le bateau.
et pour le retour, comment as-tu fait?
9000 baths, ça fait combien en shinga?😛
voir ce post et une carte EXPLICITE de ton serviteur pour une personne qui a exactement le meme probleme que toi . SUFFIT DE LIRE 😇 http://voyageforum.com/voyage/thailande_est_ce_que_ca_parait_raisonnable_comme_tour_D2697736/
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Plus sérieusement, tu apris directement les billets à l'aéroport de surratthani? avec quel type de bateau ? car au port de kpanghan, j'ai vu de drôles de vieux bateaux, ça me fait pas peur, mais pour mon fils un navire genre speed boat de lompraya (déjà pris) c'est impec (clim)..
Lis le lien TOUT est dedans !! Juste en sortant des bagages y a un gros stand et ils se chargent de tout ! Enorme bateaux (car le bus y entre avec vous et vos bagages)
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
J'ai été long a répondre et le lien est arrivé entre temps....je prend le temps de lire...
Très bien la petite carte ..
une dernière question, c'est quoi le nom de la cie maritime ?
🙂pour ma part je vais en famille le 5/07 a ko phangang c'est l'ile aprés ko samui j'ai opté pour le train c'est ce qui revien le moins chére pour le tarif je temais le lien de la railway thai car il y a plusieur tarif attentio soit en 1ére ou en 2éme couchette clim pour ma part j'y suis déja allé la 2éme clim suffit tu as des images des train sur mon site attention a la gare il vont te proposer des tout inclus refuse c'est moin chére en le faisant soit méme
bangkok surat puis bus pour l'embarcadère de Donsak et ferry pour samui
les lien pour faire ton choix des horaires et calculer le prix
http://www.samui-info.com/transport/rajaferry.html
http://www.railway.co.th/English/Time_HTML.asp
les images de la gare et des trains
www.jpaventure.com
http://www.samui-info.com/transport/rajaferry.html
http://www.railway.co.th/English/Time_HTML.asp
les images de la gare et des trains
www.jpaventure.com
routard ou backpacker ok mais pas de voyage a n'importe quel prix
Bonsoir, c'est trop tard pour l'aller: je viens de prendre des billets bangkok/surrathani avec air asia (3120 baths pour nous trois).
J'aimerais faire l'expérience des trains en thailande, mais je crois que mon fils de 5 ans sera pressé de barboter dans l'eau et un peu fatigué du voyage aller et de sa première visite de bangkok, donc pour arriver sur les iles, après réflexion peut-être mieux vaut faire rapide (et pas trop cher (y a plus rapide mais c'est beaucoup plus cher comme disait philgbo))....
En fait je suis déjà allé a koh samui et koh phangan, et nous commencerons par samui puis nous irons a koh phangan que je préfère de loin, et peut être irons nous découvrir koh tao, je pense que nous verrons sur place, mais une fois bien reposé, on pourrait rentrer en train, ça doit être sympa.
Peut-être nous croiserons nous (nous arrivons dans le coin le 22/07)
bon voyage
salut,
J y vais pour la meme periode!
avez vous des infos sur le trajet BKK chumpon Samui avec le lompraya?
sinon une alternative U tapao samui en avion generalement 1000 baths de moins par personne que le BKK samui...
🙂hélas non le 22 juillet nous seron a chiangmai
www.jpaventure.com
routard ou backpacker ok mais pas de voyage a n'importe quel prix
salut,
J y vais pour la meme periode!
avez vous des infos sur le trajet BKK chumpon Samui avec le lompraya?
sinon une alternative U tapao samui en avion generalement 1000 baths de moins par personne que le BKK samui...
Et de l'aéroport international à U Tapao c'est combien de taxi ? 1 000 bahts !!
Le train Bkk Chumpon + Lompraya = équivalent à Bkk/Surat par avion + transfert bus-ferry.... et surtout beaucoup plus long (12 ou 14h au lieu de 3h30 max).
Et à mon avis on finit plus qu'on commence par Tao... J'ai donné au dessus la référence d'un post explicite à cet effet...
Et de l'aéroport international à U Tapao c'est combien de taxi ? 1 000 bahts !!
Le train Bkk Chumpon + Lompraya = équivalent à Bkk/Surat par avion + transfert bus-ferry.... et surtout beaucoup plus long (12 ou 14h au lieu de 3h30 max).
Et à mon avis on finit plus qu'on commence par Tao... J'ai donné au dessus la référence d'un post explicite à cet effet...
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
salut, u tapao, désolé je connais pas...
bangkok chumpon samui avec lompraya, je pense que c'est pas très direct dans ce sens.
je suis plus demandeur que conseilleur, mais heureusement, philgbo connais plus les multiples possibilités existantes (merci).....
U tapao, en mini bus pour 1000 baths!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤪
U tapao, en mini bus pour 1000 baths!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤪
TAXI = 1 000 bahts : je n'ai pas parlé de minibus. Plutot que de passer par Pattaya, faire plutot le classique Surat + transfert bus/ferry. Pourquoi faire simple quand on peut faire compliqué ? 🤪
TAXI = 1 000 bahts : je n'ai pas parlé de minibus. Plutot que de passer par Pattaya, faire plutot le classique Surat + transfert bus/ferry. Pourquoi faire simple quand on peut faire compliqué ? 🤪
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
pour economiser des baths 😇
et visiter le magnifique arriere pays!!😏
de plus franchement l aeroport internationnal à U tapao, 1H30 puis avion direct samui a mon avis tu gagnes du temps, parce que le bus plus ferry......ca va un moment!
mais les gouts et les couleurs... moi c est ce que je vais faire mi juillet, mais il est vrai de je reviendrai de Korat.🙂
de plus franchement l aeroport internationnal à U tapao, 1H30 puis avion direct samui a mon avis tu gagnes du temps, parce que le bus plus ferry......ca va un moment!
mais les gouts et les couleurs... moi c est ce que je vais faire mi juillet, mais il est vrai de je reviendrai de Korat.🙂
Bangkok Surat + transfert bus et ferry = 11h45-15h (arrivée Samui) = 3h15 pour 1 500 bahts en tout (950 avion + 550 transfert). U Tapao Samui + transert entre les aeroports = 1h30 +1h05 = 2h40 et 3 000 bahts environ (2 600 + 400) et en admettant que le minivan t'attende pret à démarrer !!
Pourquoi faire simple quand on peut faire compliqué ? 🤪
Bangkok Surat + transfert bus et ferry = 11h45-15h (arrivée Samui) = 3h15 pour 1 500 bahts en tout (950 avion + 550 transfert). U Tapao Samui + transert entre les aeroports = 1h30 +1h05 = 2h40 et 3 000 bahts environ (2 600 + 400) et en admettant que le minivan t'attende pret à démarrer !!
Pourquoi faire simple quand on peut faire compliqué ? 🤪
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
il est hallucinant ce topic !😮
Au risque de me répeter Bangkok Airways c'est 4 500 bahts/personne alors que de passer par Surat reviens à 1 500 bahts et à 3 ca fait 9 000 bahts d"économie... Tout simplement
Bien de répéter, car il y a des cerfs-veaux-lents/experts (qui ne sont pas les payeurs sur le VF)
😇
Le train = 800 bahts par couchette + ferry (4h de bateau et 800 bahts !)
Surat – Samui 4 heures ???
C’est une jonque avec vents contraires ?
😏
Enorme bateaux (car le bus y entre avec vous et vos bagages)
Le bus et les bagages OK
Passagers : Niet !!! = pédibus
Je sens un léger relâchement dans la qualité de vos posts,
Besoin de vacances ?
😛
Au risque de me répeter Bangkok Airways c'est 4 500 bahts/personne alors que de passer par Surat reviens à 1 500 bahts et à 3 ca fait 9 000 bahts d"économie... Tout simplement
Bien de répéter, car il y a des cerfs-veaux-lents/experts (qui ne sont pas les payeurs sur le VF)
😇
Le train = 800 bahts par couchette + ferry (4h de bateau et 800 bahts !)
Surat – Samui 4 heures ???
C’est une jonque avec vents contraires ?
😏
Enorme bateaux (car le bus y entre avec vous et vos bagages)
Le bus et les bagages OK
Passagers : Niet !!! = pédibus
Je sens un léger relâchement dans la qualité de vos posts,
Besoin de vacances ?
😛
C'est toi qui est hallucinant mon pépère :
- Surat Samui c'est moins de 1h30 en ferry. Quand je parle de 4h de ferry c'était en passant par Chumpon : donc 2h de Chumpon à Tao + 1h entre Tao et Phangan + 30 pour Samui = 4h de bateau (et si tu cumules le cout on sera à 800 bahts) : j'y vois de ta part un cerveau lent plutot que des vents contraires en effet. 😛
- On rentre à pied dans le ferry = OUI jamais dit le contraire. Mais le bus (et à fortiori les bagages 😇) y sont AUSSI !! Certes pas au même endroit... 😛
Bref, une intervention inutile de ta part 🤪🤪
- Surat Samui c'est moins de 1h30 en ferry. Quand je parle de 4h de ferry c'était en passant par Chumpon : donc 2h de Chumpon à Tao + 1h entre Tao et Phangan + 30 pour Samui = 4h de bateau (et si tu cumules le cout on sera à 800 bahts) : j'y vois de ta part un cerveau lent plutot que des vents contraires en effet. 😛
- On rentre à pied dans le ferry = OUI jamais dit le contraire. Mais le bus (et à fortiori les bagages 😇) y sont AUSSI !! Certes pas au même endroit... 😛
Bref, une intervention inutile de ta part 🤪🤪
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
slt a tous -- je voudrais savoir si il y a une liaison direct en bateau ente Surat et kho Tao - si oui combien de temps la traversée?
merci a tous
Au risque de me répeter Bangkok Airways c'est 4 500 bahts/personne alors que de passer par Surat reviens à 1 500 bahts et à 3 ca fait 9 000 bahts d"économie... Tout simplement 😛
Bangkok airways, c'est plutôt dans les 2900 baths l'aller...je viens de faire une simulation... Bon bangkok/surat+ferry a 1500baths c'est quand même interessant, surtout quand on voyage a 3 comme moi.
Bangkok airways, c'est plutôt dans les 2900 baths l'aller...je viens de faire une simulation... Bon bangkok/surat+ferry a 1500baths c'est quand même interessant, surtout quand on voyage a 3 comme moi.
Bangkok airways, c'est plutôt dans les 2900 baths l'aller...je viens de faire une simulation...
Désolé Beep, tu n'es pas allé jusqu'au bout de la simulation alors... car j'obtiens 3 800 bahts minimum (il ne faut pas se fier aux seuls tarifs qui s'affichent à 2 900 bahts) mais rajouter "les surcharges et taxes diverses" : quand je dis qu'on se répête 🤪🤪
Désolé Beep, tu n'es pas allé jusqu'au bout de la simulation alors... car j'obtiens 3 800 bahts minimum (il ne faut pas se fier aux seuls tarifs qui s'affichent à 2 900 bahts) mais rajouter "les surcharges et taxes diverses" : quand je dis qu'on se répête 🤪🤪
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Tu causes, tu critiques mais tu ne fais toujours pas avancer le post initial !! 😛 😉🤪
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Si si, je suis allé jusqu'au bout de la simulation sur bkk airways: billet web advance 2300baths+ 570 baths taxes et surcharges: 2870
Bonjour à toutes et à tous depuis la Suisse. De tant en tant un petit message sur le forum. Cette fois çi c'est un message pour faire attention aux racoleurs à la gare de Halongporn à Bangkok.
En effet, des personnes très aimables vous accostent, même à la sortie du métro dans les couloirs pour vous guider vers les agences de voyages proches immédiatement de la gare (juste derrière sur le côté) pour vous proposer des billets de trains ou autres. Même que je suis un passionné de la Thailande depuis 1985, je me suis fais piégé. A savoir que l'on m'a demandé je ne me rappelle plus très bien mais au environ de 1300 baht pour un billet train de nuit avec couchette départ 19h30 de Bangkok à Surrathani et le transport en bateau de Chompon à Samui mais aussi inclu l'amenée du billet à mon hôtel car ils ne peuvent pas le fair immédiatement. Or selon le forum il faut compter seulement 923 baht (653+270).
Sur le bateau on vous demandera`dans quel hôtel vous allez loger à Koh Samui et ainsi vous aurez un minibus collectif pour vous y amener. Coût 200 baht.
Il existe donc à la gare de Bangkok un bureau spécial où l'on peut réserver à l'avance les billets de trains, pas toujours visible pour celui qui ne connaît pas bien, au prix normal.
DONC ATTENTION AUX RAQUETTEUSES ET RAQUETTEURS.
Sawadee krap à toutes et à tous. Bonnes vacances en Thailande. J'y serais du 10 janvier au 8 mars 2010. POUNPOUI
En effet, des personnes très aimables vous accostent, même à la sortie du métro dans les couloirs pour vous guider vers les agences de voyages proches immédiatement de la gare (juste derrière sur le côté) pour vous proposer des billets de trains ou autres. Même que je suis un passionné de la Thailande depuis 1985, je me suis fais piégé. A savoir que l'on m'a demandé je ne me rappelle plus très bien mais au environ de 1300 baht pour un billet train de nuit avec couchette départ 19h30 de Bangkok à Surrathani et le transport en bateau de Chompon à Samui mais aussi inclu l'amenée du billet à mon hôtel car ils ne peuvent pas le fair immédiatement. Or selon le forum il faut compter seulement 923 baht (653+270).
Sur le bateau on vous demandera`dans quel hôtel vous allez loger à Koh Samui et ainsi vous aurez un minibus collectif pour vous y amener. Coût 200 baht.
Il existe donc à la gare de Bangkok un bureau spécial où l'on peut réserver à l'avance les billets de trains, pas toujours visible pour celui qui ne connaît pas bien, au prix normal.
DONC ATTENTION AUX RAQUETTEUSES ET RAQUETTEURS.
Sawadee krap à toutes et à tous. Bonnes vacances en Thailande. J'y serais du 10 janvier au 8 mars 2010. POUNPOUI
Bonjours à toutes et à tous depuis la Suisse. Ma question est la suivante :
Est-il possible de louer une couchette du bas dans la 1ère classe, dans une cabine mais EN ETANT SEUL. Je serais seul pour voyager en février 2011. Trajet de Bangkok à Surrathani et quel est le prix. Dois-je payer pour les 2 couchettes ?
Merci pour toutes les réponses sérieuses à ma demande.
POUNPOUI
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A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord. 2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord. 3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus. 4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones. 5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey. 6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee). 7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced. 8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day. 9) The overnight train arrived at Berlin station with a 30-minute delay on top of its initial delay (scheduled for 6:31 PM, then 7:30 PM, finally arriving at 8:00 PM). The heating was blasting in the compartment with no way to turn it off. No functional toilets in the carriage. From that point on, customer service stopped responding to my messages. 10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège. 11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM. 12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus. 13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time. 14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
I have little hope of getting even a partial refund. Customer service emails acknowledge the discomfort but only offer to reimburse the cost of a coffee on board if we send them the receipt... a bit weak.
I’m sharing this experience in the hope it might help others.
24/05/2026 17:45 Paris-Nord (actually 16:00 from Paris Bercy Seine) -> 25/05/2026 9:59 (actually 7:30 in Berlin) 05/06/2026 18:31 Berlin (actually 20:00) -> 06/06/2026 10:00 Paris Nord (actually 12:30) Part of the journey was operated by bus instead of the promised overnight train.
For 2 people: 340 € round trip
A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord. 2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord. 3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus. 4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones. 5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey. 6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee). 7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced. 8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day. 9) The overnight train arrived at Berlin station with a 30-minute delay on top of its initial delay (scheduled for 6:31 PM, then 7:30 PM, finally arriving at 8:00 PM). The heating was blasting in the compartment with no way to turn it off. No functional toilets in the carriage. From that point on, customer service stopped responding to my messages. 10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège. 11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM. 12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus. 13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time. 14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
I have little hope of getting even a partial refund. Customer service emails acknowledge the discomfort but only offer to reimburse the cost of a coffee on board if we send them the receipt... a bit weak.
I’m sharing this experience in the hope it might help others.
Hi there,
I’d like to take the Train of the Clouds from Lima to Huancayo.
I’ve heard it only runs during certain periods.
Does anyone have info on this?
Thanks!
HuancayoHuancayo
Hi everyone,
As part of my professional thesis, I’m conducting a study on the evolution of long-distance rail transport in France, particularly since it opened up to competition. I’ve put together a very quick (about 5-minute) and completely anonymous questionnaire. Your answers will help me better understand users' expectations regarding pricing, frequency, and environmental impact.
Questionnaire link: https://forms.gle/gF1YyesVp2hkh2GDA
Thanks so much for your help! !
As part of my professional thesis, I’m conducting a study on the evolution of long-distance rail transport in France, particularly since it opened up to competition. I’ve put together a very quick (about 5-minute) and completely anonymous questionnaire. Your answers will help me better understand users' expectations regarding pricing, frequency, and environmental impact.
Questionnaire link: https://forms.gle/gF1YyesVp2hkh2GDA
Thanks so much for your help! !
Hi everyone,
Are there any luggage lockers at Krung Thep Aphiwat Station in Bangkok?
Thanks in advance to those who can help me out, and happy travels! Jaunesoleil
Thanks in advance to those who can help me out, and happy travels! Jaunesoleil
Hi there,
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Uzbekistan in March—classic independent itinerary: Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khiva. We’d like to take the train between each city, but I don’t want to lock down the whole trip before we leave.
So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Thanks a bunch!
Philippe
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Uzbekistan in March—classic independent itinerary: Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khiva. We’d like to take the train between each city, but I don’t want to lock down the whole trip before we leave.
So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Thanks a bunch!
Philippe
Hello,
We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for: - A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan - A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance! Marie
Also, I’m looking for: - A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan - A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance! Marie
Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
I’m reaching out on this forum to ask for route ideas—this time north of Tokyo, but without heading to the Sapporo island (I’m saving that for a future trip).
I’d love to take advantage of the cherry blossom season and its festivities.
I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
I wanted to know if it’s possible to go from Tashkent to Almaty by train without passing through Kyrgyzstan. I’ve heard the border is often closed 😕 between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.
Thanks in advance!
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
I'd like to go to Montserrat on my own from Barcelona. Share your suggestions with me.
Which train should I take, where to get off, what to see once I arrive, etc.
Hi there,
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Hi there,
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
Hello,
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)






