Je viens solliciter des voyageurs d'expérience en Thailande!
J'ai lu des sites médicaux, des discussions antérieures sur ce sujet mais j'ai du mal à prendre une décision : prendre un traitement préventif anti-palu ou pas?
Sachant que je vais aller à Surin puis à Chang mai et ses environs (j'ai bien l'intention d'explorer quelques parcs nationaux et réserves), que je pars 3 semaines au total et que je ne pourrais pas m'asperger la peau d'insecticides parce que je fais des allergies à à peu près tout (parfums, conservateurs, excipients, etc).
J'imagine que personne n'aura LA réponse mais si qq'un(s) pouvait me donner des éléments qui pourraient m'aider à choisir entre le risque de palu et le rissque d'effets secondaire dus au traitement ça serait bien sympa!
Merci!
Noémie
Noémie
Quand tu arrives à l'étranger, ouvre tes yeux et tes oreilles mais ferme ta bouche!
ok. merci pour ta réponse mais vu l'argumentaire peu dense je me permets de te demander des précisions! Tu ne prends pas de traitement mais tu pars longtemps? Hors ville? Et tu utilise des insecticides ou ce genre de trucs?
Noémie
Quand tu arrives à l'étranger, ouvre tes yeux et tes oreilles mais ferme ta bouche!
Perso je n'ai rien pris en Thaïlande.
Même si tu sors des villes, tu ne restes quand même pas longtemps...
Le risque est faible en Thaïlande.
Maintenant, à toi de voir. Et il serait quand même bien que tu trouves une solution pour te protéger des piqures, parce qu'il n'y a pas que le pallu qui se transmet par les moustiques.
Je me souviens avoir vu des "recettes maison" de répulsifs sur VF, fais un recherche et tu trouveras certainement.
Merci! C vrai qu'il n'y a pas que le palu... J'aurais qd même une moustiquaire pour la nuit et du répulsif sur mes vêtements mais pour la peau ça va être difficile (j'aurai dû m'y prendre plus tôt!)
Noémie
Quand tu arrives à l'étranger, ouvre tes yeux et tes oreilles mais ferme ta bouche!
Salut, ça fait des années que je voyage et que je vis en Thaïlande et je n'ai jamais pris de traitement anti palu en préventif (ni autrement d'ailleurs). Les effets secondaires peuvent te pourrir tout ton voyage alors que les risques sont minimes. Tu peux tjs prendre du Lariam avec toi et l'utiliser au cas ou mais franchement le prendre en préventif n'est pas nécessaire.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
merci pour ta réponse! c vrai que je lis qd même + de témoignages de personnes qui disent être allés en Thailande sans traitements et qui n'ont rien eu plutôt que de gens qui disent avoir attrappé le palu... Donc si je croise toutes les infos je crois que je vais prendre du malarone avec moi (il a l'air "moins pire" que le lariam niveau effets secondaires) et je le prendrai uniquement qd je serai autour de Chiang mai dans la cambrousse parce que vers Surin c pas trop touché je crois! (et j'arrêterais si ça me rend malade ou si ça me coupe l'appétit : ça serait terrible, je veux profiter de toute la bonne nourriture thai!!!!)
Noémie
Quand tu arrives à l'étranger, ouvre tes yeux et tes oreilles mais ferme ta bouche!
vu ton "cahier des charges" et le très faible risque de palu existant en thailande ( seules qq zones du sud et du nord sont répertoriées " à faible risques" je te conseille ne rien prendre et encore moins des préventifs/curratifs tel que lariam car là les effets secondaires peuvent être catastrophiques en particulier au niveau gastrique.
dans ton cas la seule solution est : un pantalon, un tee-shirt à manches longues et une moustiquaire ou la clim a fond pour la nuit .
ps : as tu déja essayé les produits type savons ou bain/douche à la citronelle ? cela pourrait peut être faire l'affaire
bon voyage
"faut pas dire à qui je ressemble, faut dire qui je suis " ( F.cabrel )
c clair que j'accepterais d'être malade à force de goûter pleins de plats plus ou moins identifiés mais être malade à cause d'un médicament ça me ferait chier (c le cas de le dire!)!
Sinon pour les produits à mettre sur la peau je crois que je vais appeler mon allergologue préférée pour voir si elle sait ce que je pourrais utiliser...
Noémie
Quand tu arrives à l'étranger, ouvre tes yeux et tes oreilles mais ferme ta bouche!
Ca ne vaut vraiment pas la peine de prendre des médicaments pour la Thaïlande, à moins de planifier tout plein de pique-nique aux abords d'un marais la nuit.
Pour les coins moins urbains, un bon moustiquaire pour la lit (les bons bungalows en possèdent déjà normalement), des vêtements longs et les classiques spirales anti-moustiques. Un puissant ventilateur écartera aussi ces bestioles pendant votre sommeil.
Je me souviens de mes premiers jours en Inde. Je ne fermais presque pas l'oeil de la nuit parce que j'entendais un moustique dans ma chambre. 😏 Ils nous font beaucoup trop peur avec leurs histoires de malaria. Des millions de voyageurs et quelques cas par année, non?
Je vais faire quelques recherches pour voir si je ne trouve pas des chiffres ou autre chose.
Le pbm des traitements préventifs est le suivant : tu chopes le palu, comme tu as pris de la malaronne ou autre, la fièvre est réduite et tu penses avoir attrapé un coup de froid. Les symptomes s'arrêtent et tu rentres en France. Six mois plus tard, tu fais une crise de palu en France et là tu jongles avec une fièvre qui monte à bloc.
Principales précautions anti palu : vêtements longs, clairs et au tissage serré. Longs car moins de surface exposée aux attaques. Clairs pour empêcher le moustique de se camoufler, donc il viendra moins vers toi que vers une personne habillée de sombre. Tissage serré car le moustique se pêtera la trompe sur tes vêtements et n'arrivera pas à passer au travers. Foulard pour protéger la nuque et le cou, sert accessoirement à s'éponger. Moustiquaire la nuit.
Précautions qui soit disant fonctionnent : écraser des feuilles de citronnelle et/ou de basilic sur la peau exposée. Manger beaucoup de citronelle et/ou basilic afin que ta sueur dégage l'odeur de ces plantes.
Je reste septique sur cette dernière proposition, mais je la tiens d'un routard de la jungle.
Bonne chance et Bienvenue dans un monde où la vie est foisonnante.
T'as pas à t'inquiéter pour le palu en thailande, j'ai été 6 mois en asie du sud-est (birmanie, thailande, laos et malaysie sans traitement mais égalament sans problèmes. Saisons sèches de novembre à mai (en gros).
Mange épicé comme eux, tu renforceras tes défenses immunitaires, ça tu les microbes et éloigne les moustiques (pas tous quand même).
Autre petit conseil, ne prends pas de glacon dans tes boissons les premiers temps, habitue ton corps et préfère l'eau en bouteille.
Pour les moustiques, si t'es allergique au répulsif, ben oui couvre toi au max, imbibe tes vêtements d'autan (anti moustique bien efficace) et utilise des serpentins dans ta chambre et sur ta terrasse.
Dernier conseil, effectivement il n'y a pas que le palu qui vient du moustique, mais aussi la dingue.
Symptome de la dingue : pas d'appétit, grelot de froid sous 40°, envie de dormir en permanence.
Remède - Aller au plus vite dans un dispensaire ou hopital le plus proche, une petite piqure, un traitement de 2/3 jours et c'est terminé.
Allé, si vraiment tu veux prendre tes lariams, emmenent les avec toi et prends les en intensifs si tu es infectée, au moins tu les auras sur toi et tu seras rassurée
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