Je souhaite partir en Asie du Sud Est pour 2 mois et demi environ (entre Septembre et Novembre), dans les pays suivants: Thailande, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodge.
Ma question est la suivante : aurais-je le temps de voir ces 4 pays sans trop me presser sur 2 mois et demi ou vaut -il mieux que je fasse un choix?
Quels sont les moyens de transport sur place pour se déplacer d'un pays à l'autre?
Le fait que je parte pendant la saison des pluies est il vraiment gênant?
Si vous avez déjà fait ce voyage, tous vos conseils sont les bienvenus.
Merci d'avance...
Deux mois et demi pour 4 pays, cela te fait une moyenne de 2, 5 semaines par pays. C'est peu pour la Thailande et le Viet Nam qui sont des pays tres etendus et tres diversifies. Je ne connais pas le Laos, je n'ai fait que deux escales au Cambodge en venant au VN par voie terrestre, je ne peux donc te parler judicieusement de ces pays.
Pour le reste, tout depend de ta conception du voyage et de ce que tu veux decouvrir.
S'il s'agit de voir un maximum de choses en un minimum de temps, c'est faisable endeans le laps de temps cite, mais dans ce cas, il te faudra preparer un itineraire et essayer de t'y tenir afin de ne pas perdre de temps.
S'il s'agit de prendre la temperature des gens, de profiter de l'Asie, de sortir des sites touristiques, il vaut mieux faire un choix de pays et rester un mois dans chaque.
En ce qui concerne les deplacements intra et inter pays, il y a plusieurs possibilites : l'avion, le bus, le train. L'avion etant la solution la plus rapide pour les longues distances, mais ne permettant pas de relier toutes les villes entre elles en vol direct. Le bus met du temps (etat des routes, circulation, etc.), mais offre l'avantage d'une grande liberte de choix. Le train, ce n'est pas ma tasse de the, je ne l'ai pris qu'au VN du Nord.
En ce qui concerne la saison des pluies, je peux te parler du VN, evite le Centre, c'est la periode des inondations, cyclones, etc et tu risques de mal tomber et avoir beaucoup de difficultes a t'y deplacer. Pour le reste du pays, ca va, la mousson se termine dans le Sud et il fait beau dans le Nord.
BonJour Pat,
Merci pour ta réponse. Je vais effectivement faire un choix de deux pays, ou rallonger mon voyage!
Sais tu si on peut se procurer les visas sur place. Par exemple, de la Thailande prendre le visa pour la Cambodge, puis du Cambodge prendre le visa pour la Laos etc...?? Ou c'est mieux de les faire en France avant de partir?
Tu peux faire tes visas :
- a l'arrivee a l'aeroport en Thailande si tu ne restes qu'un mois
- a la frontiere Cambodgienne, meme par route, pour un meme laps de temps
- a l'ambassade ou au consulat du Viet Nam du pays ou tu seras (delai une semaine minimum, je pense) pour le Viet Nam. Si tu arrives par voie aerienne (Ha Noi - Sai Gon), tu peux faire une demande via internet a une agence de voyage (jamais essaye, certains trouvent ca pratique). Le mieux, pour le VN, est d'avoir ton visa avant de partir, seul inconvenient, tu ne peux entrer dans le pays avant la date indiquee (que tu choisis sur ta demande) et si tu n'as pris qu'un mois et desires prolonger, il te faudra faire une prolongation dans une agence de voyage (delai une semaine en general).
- pour le Laos, aucune idee, je n'y suis jamais allee.
Même calcul, il vaut mieux, effectivement faire des choix...
Pour les visas, je confirme pour le Cambodge, tu peux le faire en entrant dans le pays, peu importe par où tu rentres.
Pour la Thaïlande, les visas se font dans n'importe quelle ambassade thaïlandaise donc en dehors du pays, il est généralement utilisable dans les 3 mois qui suivent (donc tu as 3 mois pour rentrer dans le pays) et valable 2 mois (prolongeable de 30 jours supplémentaires a la police de l'immigration). Mais tu n'as pas besoin de visa si tu reste moins de 30 jours et que tu arrives par avion (petite erreur de la personne qui a écrit le précédent message mais ça ne change pas grand chose: à l'aéroport, tu as ton tampon d'entrée qui te donne ton autorisation de séjour de 30 jours, ce n'est pas un visa).
je ne sais pas pour les autres pays mais ce qui est sur c'est que les visas peuvent toujours être faits dans n'importe quelle ambassade donc, à priori, oui, tu peux faire ton visa pour le Laos ou le Vietnam en Thaïlande ou au Cambodge... (Mais peut être même directement à la frontière comme pour le Cambodge, faut voir ce que disent ceux qui ont fait).
Question climat, tu n'as pas choisit la meilleure période, pour la Thaïlande en tous cas. Mais c'est pas un drame de se recevoir quelques pluies quand il fait chaud!
Concernant les visas:
- pas de visa pour la Thailande: si tu arrives par avion, tu pourras rester 30 jours en Thailande. Si tu arrives par une frontiere terrestre, pas de visa non plus mais tu ne pourras rester en Thailande que 15 jours!
- Vietnam: visa a obtenir obligatoirement dans une ambassade ou un consulat (dans n`importe quel pays du monde)
- Cambodge: visa possible a la frontiere terrestre ou a l`arrivee a l `aeroport
- Laos: visa possible a la frontiere terrestre ou a l`arrivee a l `aeroport sauf a la frontiere cambodgienne: attention, pour entrer au Laos depuis le Cambodge, il faut avoir obtenu son visa lao au prealable!
Pour les moyens de transport, il y a pas mal de liaisons aeriennes dans tous les sens qui relient les principaux lieux touristiques (Chiang Mai-Louangprabang, Siem Reap-Louangprabang, Ho Chi Minh Ville-Siem Reap, Pakse-Bangkok...). Regarde aussi les billets sur la low cost vietnamienne pour les vols interieurs viet: prix interessant pour des vols Hanoi-Hue ou Hue-Ho Chi-Minh.
La meilleure periode pour voyager en Asie du Sud Est est janvier fevrier mais pour avoir visite le Vietnam en ete, je peux te dire que l`Asie du Sud Est est tout aussi magnifique sous la pluie (qui contrairement a ce que l`on croit ne tombe pas durant toute la journee!).
Sur ton temps de voyage, 2 mois et demi c`est peu mais ñ est mieux que rien:) Chacun a son rythme de voyage et on peut consacrer 2 jours ou une vie a un pays. Donner des conseils sur la duree a consacrer a chaque pays est toujours difficile. Certains hurleront si tu ne conscares que 2 semaines a tel pays... A mon avis, pour un premier voyage, 3 semaines au Vietnam, 3 semaines en Thailande, 2 semaines et demi au Laos, 10 jours au Cambodge permettent d`avoir un premier apercu. Ca te fera avancer a un bon rythme. Libre a toi de prolonger ton voyage dans les endroits que tu aimeras!
Bon voyage (si tant est qu`on puisse faire un mauvais voyage en Asie du Sud Est!)
Merci pour vos réponses. En tenant compte de vos conseils, nous avons décidé de rester 3 mois (on aimerais bien 4 mois mais c'est difficile...). Tout dépend du prix des billets, mais a priori, on partirai de début octobre, à début Janvier, ce qui est un bon compromis, car ça sera la fin de la mousson et début de la "bonne période". Si les billets sont trop chers à cette période, on fera début sept/début Décembre.
Pour les visa Vietnam, je pense donc les faire dans un consulat au Cambodge, car impossible de savoir à l'avance à quelle date nous allons entrer dans le pays, et pas envie de régler notre voyage en fonction d'une date précise!
Pour la Thailande, à priori, on y sera un peu au début, un peu à la fin du voyage, donc moins de 30 jours à chaque fois.
A priori, pas besoin de visa donc, mais si j'ai un billet retour 3 mois plus tard, cela risque de poser problème, non??
Comment prouver que je compte quitter le pays dans moins de 30 jours, si j'ai un retour 3 mois plus tard?
Savez vous s'il est possible de prendre un billet d'avion avec retour open ou échangeable? Je ne trouve pas cette options sur internet...
Faire le visa vietnamien a Phnom Penh est une bonne option: les demarches sont simples et ne prennent pas plus de 4 jours si je me souviens bien.
Officiellement, il faut pour entrer sur le territoire thailandais la preuve que l`on va en sortir 30 jours maximum plus tard. Dans la pratique, les douaniers ne demandent jamais ce genre de precisions. Et si jamais il sont particulierement zeles, je suis sur qu`une simple explication sur le fait que l`on compte quitter la Thailande par la terre suffit. Il faut voir le nombre de backpackers presents sur le territoire thailandais qui n`ont pas la moindre idee de quand ou par ou ils vont quitter la Thailande! Personnellement, je n`avais pas reserve de billet d`avion retour en entrant en Thailande.
Il existe sans doute des billets modifiables. Le terme 'open' est tres particulier et je pense qu`il faut chercher du cote des billets d`avion 'modifiables' dans le temps. En general, les compagnies du Golfe (Golfair, Etihad, Emirates, Qatar Airways) proposent de bons prix, une bonne qualite et des billets d`avions souples (du genre modifiable une fois). Je sais que Air France a ce genre d`options mais vu les prix qu`ils pratiquent sur l`Asie du Sud Est, je ne pense pas que ce soit interessant financierement!
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Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling.
For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees?
We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo.
Thanks for your tips and help!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees.
Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan.
Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island.
Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai?
Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai.
My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok:
No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna:
From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄).
Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM.
Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau:
Found this via AI—is it legit?
No online booking, as far as I can tell.
Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly????
And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning
March 24: Phnom Penh
March 25: Phnom Penh
March 26: Depart for Kampot
March 27: Kampot
March 28: Depart for Battambang
March 29: Battambang
March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap
March 31: Siem Reap
April 1: Siem Reap
April 2: Siem Reap
April 3: Siem Reap
April 4: Siem Reap
April 5: Departure
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta.
21/09: Borobudur
22/09: Prambanan
23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang)
24/09: Bromo
25/09: Kawa Ijen
26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran
27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran
28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk
29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud
02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo
05/10: Komodo cruise
06/10: Komodo cruise
07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo.
08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar
09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore
10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
