Tizi N'Test ou Tizi N'Tichka en janvier? (Maroc)
by Korrigan66
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous !
Dans quelques jours, nous allons partir en voiture de location faire un petit tour au Maroc : a priori Marrakech - Essaouira - Agadir - Taroudant - Marrakech.
Ma question concerne le trajet Taroudant - Marrakech : est il plus raisonnable de passer par ouarzazate et le col de tizi n'tichka, plutôt que par le tizi n'test ? Ou même de contourner les montagnes ?
Une ancienne discussion " Sécurité sur la traversée du col Tizi Tichka au Maroc" met déjà en garde contre la route du tichka...
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses !
Bonjour,
Il se dit beaucoup de niaiseries sur ce forum ! il faut relativiser! La route du Tichka, est une des routes principales du sud Maroc, une bonne route ou les camions s'y croisent facilement, et il n'y a en gros que 30 kms de vraie montagne. La route du Tizi n'test est elle plus étroite, mais tellement moins fréquentée, c'est une des plus jolies routes du pays.
Si la météo est clémente, ce qui est le plus fréquent, aucun souci, prendre le tizi n'Test. Si il y a exceptionnellement des grosses perturbations, les 2 cols peuvent etre coupés, ca n'arrive jamais plus de 2 à 5 jours par an, et dans ce cas on fait Marrakech Tarroudant par Agadir Chichaoua.
Il se dit beaucoup de niaiseries sur ce forum ! il faut relativiser! La route du Tichka, est une des routes principales du sud Maroc, une bonne route ou les camions s'y croisent facilement, et il n'y a en gros que 30 kms de vraie montagne. La route du Tizi n'test est elle plus étroite, mais tellement moins fréquentée, c'est une des plus jolies routes du pays.
Si la météo est clémente, ce qui est le plus fréquent, aucun souci, prendre le tizi n'Test. Si il y a exceptionnellement des grosses perturbations, les 2 cols peuvent etre coupés, ca n'arrive jamais plus de 2 à 5 jours par an, et dans ce cas on fait Marrakech Tarroudant par Agadir Chichaoua.
bonjour, si ça peut vous aider début mars 2005, nous avions voulu faire le trajet TAROUDANT/MARRAKECH par le Tizin'test et il nous a été conseillé de nous renseigner, comme chez nous, auprès de la gendarmerie locale. C'est plus de sureté A l'époque, les conditions de circulation n'étaient pas bonnes à cause de la neige, alors nous ne l'avons pas fait. Nous y retournons cette année et mi mars nous allons retenter l'expérience puis MARRAKECH/OURZAZATE par le Tizin'tchika Alors In cha allah
Pour moi je n'hésite pas une seconde, si la météo le permet passe par le tizi n test, c'est plus joli et surtout plus tranquil.
La montée depuis taroudant est étroite et la descente sans problème s'il n'y a pas de neige.
Ils annoncent (la météo) de la pluie sur le maroc demain vendredi et samedi, alors ça dépend quand tu vas y passer.
Pour le tichka, ma femme l'a passé derrière le chasse neige l'année dernière en février.( dur dur) mais surtout à cause des cons...... car les chauffeurs marocains sont largement plus dangereux que les routes. Tu roules tranquil en pensant tout le temps que ce qui n'est pas possible est possible ici🤪.
didier
Bonjour,
Connaissant très bien les deux cols, même enneigés, nous roulons parfaitement.(les chasses neiges sont toujours sur place ainsi que la gendarmerie) Un choix à faire : sans hésiter passer par le Tizi N'Test. Comme le dit très justement Raoulx c'est l'une des routes les plus belle du Maroc.
Prenez le temps de manger une omelette bèrbère en haut du col et écoutez le récit des courses de vélos ...
A propos de Raoulx c'est un grand blagueur, ne prenons pas tout au premier degré.
N'hésitez pas pour d'autres renseignements complémentaires. Bon séjour au Maroc.
A propos de Raoulx c'est un grand blagueur, ne prenons pas tout au premier degré.
N'hésitez pas pour d'autres renseignements complémentaires. Bon séjour au Maroc.
La musique est le seul plaisir sensuel sans vice.
joël
joël
Bonjour,
en termes de kilomètres, la solution de passer par Ouarzazate rallonge effroyablement la route.
En termes de sécurité, les deux routes ne sont pas identiques. Et l'hiver, si le temps en vraiment froid ou à la neige, Tichka est sans doute plus sécurisée.
Car :Pas de barrière de neige ni de surveillance régulière pour le Tizi N'Test, comme à Tichka.Beaucoup plus de petits ruisseaux descendants de la montagne sur la route de Tizi Test, donc un peu plus de risques si il y a du verglas et qu'on ne fait pas attention (mais il y en a aussi sur la route de Tichka)A certains endroits, route du Tizi n'Test plus étroite et en plus mauvais état que celle de Tichka. Mais...Beaucoup plus de passage à Tichka qu'au Tizi n'Test, donc beaucoup plus de risques de mauvais croisement. Une route plus belle par le Tizi n'Test. Donc pour résumer, les deux routes se valent. Et - surtout de jour - elles ne sont pas si dangereuses que ça. C'est de la route de montagne, et il faut faire attention, et ça suffit.
En tout cas, j'ai dû faire la route de Tichka plus d'une centaine de fois, celle di Tizi n'Test une bonne vingtaine, et je suis toujours vivante :)
en termes de kilomètres, la solution de passer par Ouarzazate rallonge effroyablement la route.
En termes de sécurité, les deux routes ne sont pas identiques. Et l'hiver, si le temps en vraiment froid ou à la neige, Tichka est sans doute plus sécurisée.
Car :Pas de barrière de neige ni de surveillance régulière pour le Tizi N'Test, comme à Tichka.Beaucoup plus de petits ruisseaux descendants de la montagne sur la route de Tizi Test, donc un peu plus de risques si il y a du verglas et qu'on ne fait pas attention (mais il y en a aussi sur la route de Tichka)A certains endroits, route du Tizi n'Test plus étroite et en plus mauvais état que celle de Tichka. Mais...Beaucoup plus de passage à Tichka qu'au Tizi n'Test, donc beaucoup plus de risques de mauvais croisement. Une route plus belle par le Tizi n'Test. Donc pour résumer, les deux routes se valent. Et - surtout de jour - elles ne sont pas si dangereuses que ça. C'est de la route de montagne, et il faut faire attention, et ça suffit.
En tout cas, j'ai dû faire la route de Tichka plus d'une centaine de fois, celle di Tizi n'Test une bonne vingtaine, et je suis toujours vivante :)
Des infos pour vivre et travailler au Maroc : http://o-maroc.com
Bonjour
Désolé je ne sais pas comment créer un nouveau sujet. Mais je vois que tu connais apparemment bien le maroc alors je me permet de poser ici ma question
Nous (4 personnes) avons pour projet pendant une semaine en avril de faire le sud marocain en 4x4 (atlas et desert) en m'adressant directement à une agence locale. Parmi les "forumers" présents ici, qui a une expérience de s'être adressée à une agence locale depuis la France et quel en a été le résultat ? (Circuit bien organisé ? Guide sympa ?, ....)
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Désolé je ne sais pas comment créer un nouveau sujet. Mais je vois que tu connais apparemment bien le maroc alors je me permet de poser ici ma question
Nous (4 personnes) avons pour projet pendant une semaine en avril de faire le sud marocain en 4x4 (atlas et desert) en m'adressant directement à une agence locale. Parmi les "forumers" présents ici, qui a une expérience de s'être adressée à une agence locale depuis la France et quel en a été le résultat ? (Circuit bien organisé ? Guide sympa ?, ....)
Daniel
Meric a tous nos amis qui tiennent a enrichir nos idees.
Une très bonne route. en janvier et c normal dans cette periode de temps le col du Tizi n'Tichka peut être bloqué par la neige : . Cet itinéraire vous offre le bien etre et le courage d'aller jusqu'au bout en conduisant sur le grand Atlas, surtout dans la montée du col du Tizi n'tichka. 4 a 5 h de trajet en bus de Marrakech Ouarzazate . Très fréquenté par de nombreux camions et voitures et autocars et grands motos, facile à le traversser avec des panneaux sont mis en place par la Sécurité routière.et celles qui sont à la sortie de Marrakech signalent lorsque le col est bloqué. Juste un simple plan. Une route toute a fait superbe pour sillonner les plus belles regions de pays, prenez vous votre gauche vers AIT OURIR, grand village comme porte de tizi n-tichka, 36 km de centre ville.apres jebel Tasghimout.apres 52 km vous voila en face de jebel Yagour et le jebel Guedrouz, belle panorama٫des maisons construit avec de la boue comme decorations partout sont collées en montgane .AIT AMQUER et à gauche jebel TISTUITt . Peu après, en bas village D'AGBALOU c notre beau montagne c 'est l'Atla les palmiers doums et les pins d'Alep, eucalyptus, sont tous la pour apportter le bien etre a vos yeux en traverssant cette belle route . y'en des kasbas partout .juste en 75 km profittez vous debien goutter nos beaux plats nos tajines et le couscous marocaine avec de the a la menthe c froid alors vas'y c pour votre bien c 'est a TADART lieu de rencontre et notre point de repos....en demi mois et en été wow quelle beauté .ciel bleu la lune et les etoiles brillent dans cette belle zone. .et voila commençons nous toute une passage tres elevée. Passant a TELUET et voila traverssant OUED TAMESNAR dans une descente fabuleuse traverssant la moitie de route te voila face a IGHARM n'ougdal a vous d'arreter pour faire un tour labas. Apres Agouim, la route s'oriente coté sud-est, se continue vers la vallée de l'asif Imini, que de belle vues e passant à TAZLADA et IFLIT y'en des belles kasaba dans les environs ...a AIT ZINEB apres voila AMERZEGANE et AIT BENHADOU et les anciens tergharmatinede TEZENTUTE et faire eviter la route droite de ZAGORA, pour rejoindre la cité de 198 km. . jendari Du Maroc .
Une très bonne route. en janvier et c normal dans cette periode de temps le col du Tizi n'Tichka peut être bloqué par la neige : . Cet itinéraire vous offre le bien etre et le courage d'aller jusqu'au bout en conduisant sur le grand Atlas, surtout dans la montée du col du Tizi n'tichka. 4 a 5 h de trajet en bus de Marrakech Ouarzazate . Très fréquenté par de nombreux camions et voitures et autocars et grands motos, facile à le traversser avec des panneaux sont mis en place par la Sécurité routière.et celles qui sont à la sortie de Marrakech signalent lorsque le col est bloqué. Juste un simple plan. Une route toute a fait superbe pour sillonner les plus belles regions de pays, prenez vous votre gauche vers AIT OURIR, grand village comme porte de tizi n-tichka, 36 km de centre ville.apres jebel Tasghimout.apres 52 km vous voila en face de jebel Yagour et le jebel Guedrouz, belle panorama٫des maisons construit avec de la boue comme decorations partout sont collées en montgane .AIT AMQUER et à gauche jebel TISTUITt . Peu après, en bas village D'AGBALOU c notre beau montagne c 'est l'Atla les palmiers doums et les pins d'Alep, eucalyptus, sont tous la pour apportter le bien etre a vos yeux en traverssant cette belle route . y'en des kasbas partout .juste en 75 km profittez vous debien goutter nos beaux plats nos tajines et le couscous marocaine avec de the a la menthe c froid alors vas'y c pour votre bien c 'est a TADART lieu de rencontre et notre point de repos....en demi mois et en été wow quelle beauté .ciel bleu la lune et les etoiles brillent dans cette belle zone. .et voila commençons nous toute une passage tres elevée. Passant a TELUET et voila traverssant OUED TAMESNAR dans une descente fabuleuse traverssant la moitie de route te voila face a IGHARM n'ougdal a vous d'arreter pour faire un tour labas. Apres Agouim, la route s'oriente coté sud-est, se continue vers la vallée de l'asif Imini, que de belle vues e passant à TAZLADA et IFLIT y'en des belles kasaba dans les environs ...a AIT ZINEB apres voila AMERZEGANE et AIT BENHADOU et les anciens tergharmatinede TEZENTUTE et faire eviter la route droite de ZAGORA, pour rejoindre la cité de 198 km. . jendari Du Maroc .
n'attendez pas d'avoir trops pour partager......un peu
bonjour,
Je voulais vous dire que j'etais desole pour le manque de respect et la moquerie de votre francais dont vous avez ete vicitime.C'est immonde et rien de plus.
Je pense par ailleurs que vous n'auriez pas du vous abaissez a refaire un message qui semble ''correct'' a un esprit collonialiste et inconcient de ce qu'il ecrit.
Bien a vous, et au plaisir l'annee prochaine de decouvrir enfin votre merveilleux pays, ou mon grand pere a longtemps vecu, et ou toujours j'ai repousse le voyage.
Je voulais vous dire que j'etais desole pour le manque de respect et la moquerie de votre francais dont vous avez ete vicitime.C'est immonde et rien de plus.
Je pense par ailleurs que vous n'auriez pas du vous abaissez a refaire un message qui semble ''correct'' a un esprit collonialiste et inconcient de ce qu'il ecrit.
Bien a vous, et au plaisir l'annee prochaine de decouvrir enfin votre merveilleux pays, ou mon grand pere a longtemps vecu, et ou toujours j'ai repousse le voyage.
La vie, cette goutte de lait et d'absinthe.
re...
Je ne cherche a polemiquer plus que necessaire.Vos posts ont etes supprimes, et je trouve que sur un forum d'echange avec des gens de tous pays et tous horizons, c'est bien la moindre des choses. A priori, vous n'etes le genre de personne a essaye de vous rendre compte de la porte de vos ecris, meme apres leur suppression. Et c'est peut etre cela le plus grave. Quand a l'aigreur, je vous en prie.J'ai lu quelques uns de vos posts pour voir a qui j'avais a faire, car j'avais vraiment ete choque par vos propos.
Je comprend un peu mieux maintenant.Alors s'il vous plait, siincerement qui est aigris. En toute franchise mr raoulx :Qui est aigris????
Je ne cherche a polemiquer plus que necessaire.Vos posts ont etes supprimes, et je trouve que sur un forum d'echange avec des gens de tous pays et tous horizons, c'est bien la moindre des choses. A priori, vous n'etes le genre de personne a essaye de vous rendre compte de la porte de vos ecris, meme apres leur suppression. Et c'est peut etre cela le plus grave. Quand a l'aigreur, je vous en prie.J'ai lu quelques uns de vos posts pour voir a qui j'avais a faire, car j'avais vraiment ete choque par vos propos.
Je comprend un peu mieux maintenant.Alors s'il vous plait, siincerement qui est aigris. En toute franchise mr raoulx :Qui est aigris????
La vie, cette goutte de lait et d'absinthe.
C'est l'hopital qui se fout de la charite, non?
Combien de messages avez donne aux moderateurs? Apparament c'est quelque chose qui vous tient a coeur.
Que les choses soient bien claires cher mr.La moderation, ca ne plait pas vraiment, car on est assez grands pour se debrouiller seuls.
Mais en ce concerne les propos a connotation racistes, et apres vous avoir demande plusieurs fois de vous relire, alors j'assume, par respect pour la personne que vous avez blesse et pour les trois autres que vous avez choques. Quand je vois un grafiti raciste sur les murs de toilettes, je l'efface, c'est la meme chose que pour vos deux posts, sauf que c'est les modos qui ont l'eponge.
Si vos posts ont ete supprimes, c'est bien qu'ils etaient intolerables.
Le plus grave est votre incapacite a vous en rendre compte. Mais s'il vous plait pas de morale en ce qui concerne la moderation, pas venant de vous!!
Je vous souhaite de vous rendre compte de la teneur de vos propos envers cette personne, ce serai la moindre des choses meme si vous ne l'admetez pas en public.
Cela s'apelle la dignite!
Combien de messages avez donne aux moderateurs? Apparament c'est quelque chose qui vous tient a coeur.
Que les choses soient bien claires cher mr.La moderation, ca ne plait pas vraiment, car on est assez grands pour se debrouiller seuls.
Mais en ce concerne les propos a connotation racistes, et apres vous avoir demande plusieurs fois de vous relire, alors j'assume, par respect pour la personne que vous avez blesse et pour les trois autres que vous avez choques. Quand je vois un grafiti raciste sur les murs de toilettes, je l'efface, c'est la meme chose que pour vos deux posts, sauf que c'est les modos qui ont l'eponge.
Si vos posts ont ete supprimes, c'est bien qu'ils etaient intolerables.
Le plus grave est votre incapacite a vous en rendre compte. Mais s'il vous plait pas de morale en ce qui concerne la moderation, pas venant de vous!!
Je vous souhaite de vous rendre compte de la teneur de vos propos envers cette personne, ce serai la moindre des choses meme si vous ne l'admetez pas en public.
Cela s'apelle la dignite!
La vie, cette goutte de lait et d'absinthe.
Slt
il y a 10 jour le tichka était bloqué, mais depuis il est ouvert et fonctionne trés bien, mais en 1 heure cela peut changer! c'est l'aventure, mais il n'y a de dangers la sécurité est bien organisée.
TONYL
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I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!