Touriste suisse victime d'un viol collectif en Inde
by Greensnow
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
🤪triste information mais faut en tenir compte quand on voyage.
http://www.rfi.fr/asie-pacifique/20130316-touriste-suisse-viol-inde-attaque-femme-madhya-pradesh-gwalior
C'est vrai, il vaut mieux se souvenir quelques fois que cela peut arriver .
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
je pars le 16 avril avec ma fille de 15 ans !!
je vais redoubler de vigilance !
😉 http://www.liberation.fr/monde/2013/03/17/viol-collectif-d-une-touriste-suisse-en-inde-cinq-suspects-avouent_889144 Déja en zonzon et c est tant mieux 😄
Je vis la nuit car on ma dit que j'allais mourir un jour
🤪triste information mais faut en tenir compte quand on voyage.
http://www.rfi.fr/asie-pacifique/20130316-touriste-suisse-viol-inde-attaque-femme-madhya-pradesh-gwalior
voyageuse
Oui, car faire du vélo et camper, c'est ce qui est dit dans les news , est inconséquent!..d'autant qu'il y a des guesthouses pas chères, ce sont d'autres mœurs...tenir compte de cela!!
j'ai vu des femmes sur certaines plages très dévêtues, choquer la population.je suis très triste pour ce couple, et l'Inde dont ça donne une image négative......
voyageuse
Bonjour tout le monde
Moi aussi j'ai été estomaqué, je croyais que d'abord c'était vraiment exceptionnel les viols collectifs et que les touristes etaient épargnés. Mais ça reste pourtant quand même rare qu'on entend des événements semblables.
Je suis en train de préparer mon premier voyage en Inde : Je me demande maintenant s'il faut absolument être rentré dans son auberge AVANT le coucher du soleil quand on voyage dans les campagnes indiennes... Et si les auberges les moins chères sont vraiment risquées . Je me dis qu'il ne faut pas paranoïé, mais il faut quand même départager Est-ce que vous croyez aussi que certains états sont plus dangereux que d'autres ? Comme le Madhya padresh où les événements sont survenus par exemple ?
Et si vous trouvez que faire du vélo en Inde est inconséquent (et pas seulement le camping), qu'en est-il de marcher sur des chemins de campagnes (de jour) ?
Je suis en train de préparer mon premier voyage en Inde : Je me demande maintenant s'il faut absolument être rentré dans son auberge AVANT le coucher du soleil quand on voyage dans les campagnes indiennes... Et si les auberges les moins chères sont vraiment risquées . Je me dis qu'il ne faut pas paranoïé, mais il faut quand même départager Est-ce que vous croyez aussi que certains états sont plus dangereux que d'autres ? Comme le Madhya padresh où les événements sont survenus par exemple ?
Et si vous trouvez que faire du vélo en Inde est inconséquent (et pas seulement le camping), qu'en est-il de marcher sur des chemins de campagnes (de jour) ?
Je suis une femme de 65 ans donc je risque évidemment moins qu'une femme jeune sur le plan du viol. Et encore! la nuit... Mais il n'y a pas que "cela" qui peut intéresser, il y a l'argent potentiel sur le touriste étranger. Donc ne jamais être seul ou seule dans une endroit isolé, ne pas sortir la nuit, ne pas accepter des invitations sans prudence. Camper est une folie, désolante pour ce couple suisse, mais vraiment il faut un minimum de lucidité avant de se lancer dans un voyage. La bicyclette? Les routes sont affreusement dangereuses y compris quand on est en voiture, donc tout dépend si on a des idées scuicidaires. Pour une femme il est essentiel de se vêtir correctement. Quand je vois des lolottes demandant sur des forums de voyage si elles "s'habiller" en Inde avec un short, il y a de quoi rêver. La salvar kamiz est une tenue très agréable à porter quand il fait chaud! Bref prudence et réserve.
Bonjour ,
Je te conseil de toujours choisir des guest houses qui sont referencées lonely planet ou guide du routard tu peux egalement en trouver a petits prix ...
et de toujours bien remplir le registre a ton arrivée
Pour le vélo ne pas trop partir des sentiers du moins si tu le fais , fais le à plusieurs
Et ne pas trop trainer le soir venu
Bon voyage !
il n' y a pas un état plus dangereux qu'un autre il faut juste être un peu vigilant 🙂
Merci Yaralava pour ce rappel des règles de bon sens...
Ces nouvelles m'attristent mais m'énervent aussi. Cela ne fait que diaboliser davantage ce pays. Ce n'est jamais la faute de la victime, évidemment, mais il y a des règles qu'il vaut mieux éviter de contourner...
D'ailleurs cela m'a (malheureusement) inspiré un article pour mon blog, si vous souhaitez y jeter un oeil !
Ces nouvelles m'attristent mais m'énervent aussi. Cela ne fait que diaboliser davantage ce pays. Ce n'est jamais la faute de la victime, évidemment, mais il y a des règles qu'il vaut mieux éviter de contourner...
D'ailleurs cela m'a (malheureusement) inspiré un article pour mon blog, si vous souhaitez y jeter un oeil !
Un blog pour bien profiter de son séjour à l'étranger : http://www.venividivoyage.com
😉rien ne diabolise ce pays.
Entre l'angélisme pure et dure de certains, il y a la réalité.
En France c'est bien 75000 viols environ par an et 1 femme meurt tout les 3 jours.
Néanmoins, je voyage depuis 26 ans avec mon épouse et nous avons toujours pris partout dans le monde des précautions contre les agressions en générale.
De manière générale, certains devraient arrêtés de se balader avec le gros Nikon en bandoulière.
Pour les femmes, et oui! de plus en plus de filles voyagent à deux ou plusieurs et c'est pas toujours terrible à voir au niveau du comportement etc.............
Donc avec 1 comportement dit normal sans devenir parano, il n'y a pas plus de problèmes en Inde que dans le reste du monde (donc éviter de faire courir des rumeurs ou des peurs sans rapport avec ce grand pays).
Pour exemple, ce matin j'ai lu par hazard un blog d'un cycliste qui est parti de Delhi à Calcutta sans problème.
La différence il dormait dans des Guesthouses. En 2012, j'étais sur les îles Pérhentians en Malaisie ou 1 an auparavant, 1 jeune femme avait été tué et enterrée sous 1 Bungalow par le propriétaire (pourtant l'endroit est tranquille).La victime avait traversée l'Inde seule sans problème auparavant.
Quand le problème arrive il est souvent rapide et violent et rien ne le présage en générale.
Donc en amont, je pense que quand on voyage, faut être impérativement à 2 et un minimum de réflexion sur la destination ou l'on se rend (presse, économie du pays, les tensions interne....)
Je vais donner un dernier exemple en France. Pourquoi les femmes en France partent faire du footing seule ??? sachant que c'est une super opportunité pour les détraqués?.(régulièrement des femmes meurent dans ce contexte et rien ne change dans les comportements).
Je suis en grande partie d'accord avec ce que tu dis , sauf sur un point " en voyage, il faut impérativement être deux" .
Je parle de mon vécu , je trouve qu' il n'y a vraiment pas de règle de ce côté là . Avec du recul, je vois que c'est en voyageant à deux que j'ai couru le plus de risques . Je n'ai pas eu de malchance, ce n'est pas tombé sur moi . Par contre, quand je voyage seule, je suis TRES prudente , tout en logeant dans des guesthouses et en circulant dans les transports locaux .
C'est en voyageant à trois ou quatre , qu'il me semble être le plus en sécurité , pour certains longs trajets par exemple
Je parle de mon vécu , je trouve qu' il n'y a vraiment pas de règle de ce côté là . Avec du recul, je vois que c'est en voyageant à deux que j'ai couru le plus de risques . Je n'ai pas eu de malchance, ce n'est pas tombé sur moi . Par contre, quand je voyage seule, je suis TRES prudente , tout en logeant dans des guesthouses et en circulant dans les transports locaux .
C'est en voyageant à trois ou quatre , qu'il me semble être le plus en sécurité , pour certains longs trajets par exemple
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
Quand je vois des lolottes demandant sur des forums de voyage si elles "s'habiller" en Inde avec un short, il y a de quoi rêver. La salvar kamiz est une tenue très agréable à porter quand il fait chaud! Bref prudence et réserve.
Je suis rentré il y a 2 jours de mon 10ème voyage en Inde. A chaque séjour je constate un raccourcissement de la tenue chez un bon nombre de touriste. A se demander si certaines femmes en connaissent un minimum sur l'Inde avant de s'y rendre. Avec environ 70% d’analphabète et aucun accès à l'éducation ce type de comportement masculin est hélas courant. Pour rappel, 1 viol toutes les 20 minutes en Inde. Sur place la semaine dernière, j'ai apprit le viol à l'école d'une petite fillette de 7 ans par 2 instituteurs ...
Donc à proscrire absolument les épaules découvertes, les décolletés, les jambes nues et même des habits trop moulant. Comme le dit Yaralava se tourner vers la salvar kamiz ou vêtement de ce type. Même si le comportement bestial de certains hommes est évidement condamnable, chaque femme visitant l'Inde devrait absolument abandonner ses tenues et son comportent d'occidentale afin de minimiser quelque peu les risques.
Je suis rentré il y a 2 jours de mon 10ème voyage en Inde. A chaque séjour je constate un raccourcissement de la tenue chez un bon nombre de touriste. A se demander si certaines femmes en connaissent un minimum sur l'Inde avant de s'y rendre. Avec environ 70% d’analphabète et aucun accès à l'éducation ce type de comportement masculin est hélas courant. Pour rappel, 1 viol toutes les 20 minutes en Inde. Sur place la semaine dernière, j'ai apprit le viol à l'école d'une petite fillette de 7 ans par 2 instituteurs ...
Donc à proscrire absolument les épaules découvertes, les décolletés, les jambes nues et même des habits trop moulant. Comme le dit Yaralava se tourner vers la salvar kamiz ou vêtement de ce type. Même si le comportement bestial de certains hommes est évidement condamnable, chaque femme visitant l'Inde devrait absolument abandonner ses tenues et son comportent d'occidentale afin de minimiser quelque peu les risques.
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Mes galeries photos sur l'Inde: http://www.snapmania.com/users/proverbe/
Mes galeries photos sur l'Inde: http://www.snapmania.com/users/proverbe/
Bonjour Eric,
Lors de mon dernier voyage en février dernier, j'ai fait le même constat que toi à propos des touristes occidentales : la plupart se contentent de débardeurs et/ou jupes courtes ou shorts. J'ai été étonnée de ce changement de comportement, chez les jeunes et les moins jeunes, en bord de plage ou même dans les terres. Je trouve ça plutôt irrespectueux.🙁 Evidemment, les indiens n'oseront jamais le faire remarquer...
Lors de mon dernier voyage en février dernier, j'ai fait le même constat que toi à propos des touristes occidentales : la plupart se contentent de débardeurs et/ou jupes courtes ou shorts. J'ai été étonnée de ce changement de comportement, chez les jeunes et les moins jeunes, en bord de plage ou même dans les terres. Je trouve ça plutôt irrespectueux.🙁 Evidemment, les indiens n'oseront jamais le faire remarquer...
Même constat: chaque année les tenues des Occidentales raccourcissent. J'ai même vu en plein Udaipur et Delhi des filles dans une tenue qui aurait été limite dans une ville européenne en été, sans avoir l'air de se rendre compte un seul instant du décalage... On a l'impression que les gens se renseignent de moins en moins avant de partir. Aussi atroce et inacceptable soit ce qui est arrivé à ce couple suisse, faire du camping sauvage dans le Madhya Pradesh rural me semble au moins aussi inconscient.
Pour la personne qui a demandé quelles régions étaient plus à risque, cela peut arriver partout, il suffit d'être au mauvais endroit au mauvais moment. Un peu de bon sens permet au moins de limiter les risques. J'ai l'impression que voyager dans le Sud (que je connais peu) est plus sûr que dans le Nord, surtout certains États comme le Bihar, le Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh, ou d'autres endroits très touristiques où il y a pas mal de trafic de drogue comme comme les zones himalayennes, Goa, où l'on reporte régulièrement des disparitions.
Pour la personne qui a demandé quelles régions étaient plus à risque, cela peut arriver partout, il suffit d'être au mauvais endroit au mauvais moment. Un peu de bon sens permet au moins de limiter les risques. J'ai l'impression que voyager dans le Sud (que je connais peu) est plus sûr que dans le Nord, surtout certains États comme le Bihar, le Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh, ou d'autres endroits très touristiques où il y a pas mal de trafic de drogue comme comme les zones himalayennes, Goa, où l'on reporte régulièrement des disparitions.
Oui, il y a des détraqués partout et le hasard des mauvaises rencontres peut se faire à côté de chez soi, c'est une évidence. Mais le problème est que dans ces histoires de viols collectifs en Inde, il ne s'agit pas de psychopathes. C'est plus un problème culturel, du regard que la société indienne porte sur la femme. Et il n'est pas merveilleux, loin de là. Les malheurs commencent in utero, avec les avortements sélectifs des foetus femelles (et cela ne concerne pas ceux qui n'ont pas d'éducation, bien au contraire). Cela se poursuit avec les atteintes violentes innombrables pour récupérer plus de dot. Ensuite il y a un manque de liberté au niveau des relations entre femmes et hommes et un déficit énorme de femmes à cause de ces avortements sélectifs qui sont certainement source de violence chez certains hommes frustrés (que les femmes m'excusent, je pense que les femmes n'expriment pas leurs frustrations de la même façon que les hommes.. surtout quand le message depuis l'enfance est la soumission au mâle). La seule chose un peu positive que je vois dans ces évènements récents est qu'enfin cela s'écrit dans les journaux indiens, on en parle, donc la parole va se libérer.
J'aime beaucoup l'Inde mais quand j'en rentre je suis heureuse de ne pas y être née, de savoir ce qu'est être une femme indépendante et libre, même si on le paye parfois un peu cher.
Entièrement d'accord avec tous. Moi aussi ca m'a choquée cette histoire, ainsi que les nombreuses autres histoires de viols.
Je dois avouer que lors de mon premier voyage en Asie, (Indo en 88-89) j'étais mal informée, je me baladais, seule, en short et tee shirt sans manche... 🤪
Il ne m'est rien arrivée de grave, mais je ne l'ai plus jamais fait 😎
Maintenant, même si je n'ai plus 20 ans, en voyage je ne me maquille pas, je ne mets pas de bijoux, je ne suis pas très féminine, et ca marche. Je n'ai pas énormément de succès, mais j'ai droit à + de respect.
Une femme aime se sentir belle, c'est dans sa nature, donc ca peut être difficile pour certaines, mais par sécurité c'est mon conseil n°1 à toute femme voyageant seule.
S'habiller hyper correctement, quitte à ne pas être très ne pas afficher ses richesses etc.
Perso, je me sens vraiment bien en shalwar kemiz..
Et si j'aimerais habiter en Inde la plupart du temps, moi aussi je suis sacrément contente d'être née ici...
Fainéanter dans un monde neuf est la plus absorbante des occupations... (N.Bouvier)
🤪http://www.lemonde.fr/asie-pacifique/article/2013/03/19/inde-une-touriste-britannique-blessee-en-echappant-a-une-agression_1850375_3216.html
Une nouvelle agression d'une touriste.
Article du monde bien foutou dans la mesure ou il ne sert à rien de faire une psychose comme pourrait le faire certains dans la presse.
L'inde n'est pas à feu ni à sang.
"je suis heureuse de ne pas y être née"
elle est idiote cette phrase.quand on nait dans un pays, on s'y habitue non ?!!! Si un indien disait "hereusement je ne suis pas né en france pour bouffer la lasagne de cheval" Mais nous , on est là et on en bouffe!!!
alllllôôôô !!! vous me recevez?
elle est idiote cette phrase.quand on nait dans un pays, on s'y habitue non ?!!! Si un indien disait "hereusement je ne suis pas né en france pour bouffer la lasagne de cheval" Mais nous , on est là et on en bouffe!!!
alllllôôôô !!! vous me recevez?
Merci pour ce lien
Article du monde bien foutou dans la mesure ou il ne sert à rien de faire une psychose comme pourrait le faire certains dans la presse.
Pas spécialement bien foutu, il informe de ce qui s'est passé et précise quand même qu'il y a de plus en plus de problèmes de ce type en Inde. Il y a dix ans, il était très très rare de voir des agressions, notamment sexuelles, contre des touristes (sauf quelques touristes qui disparaissaient la nuit à Varanasi). Maintenant, il semble que l'on soit devant un nouveau phénomène et, sans l'exagérer, ça ne sert à rien non plus de faire l'autruche...
Le mois dernier, je suis retourné en Inde après dix ans d'absence. Curieusement, j'ai tout de suite senti qu'il y avait beaucoup de respect de part et d'autre. Certains voyageurs se considèrent en terrain conquis, prennent des photos à tout va, comme ce gros con à Varanasi (PJ). Il y a dix ou quinze ans, ce genre de comportement était impensable... A l'inverse, j'ai également senti beaucoup d'Indiens plus arrogants vis-à-vis des étrangers, moins amicaux.
Pas spécialement bien foutu, il informe de ce qui s'est passé et précise quand même qu'il y a de plus en plus de problèmes de ce type en Inde. Il y a dix ans, il était très très rare de voir des agressions, notamment sexuelles, contre des touristes (sauf quelques touristes qui disparaissaient la nuit à Varanasi). Maintenant, il semble que l'on soit devant un nouveau phénomène et, sans l'exagérer, ça ne sert à rien non plus de faire l'autruche...
Le mois dernier, je suis retourné en Inde après dix ans d'absence. Curieusement, j'ai tout de suite senti qu'il y avait beaucoup de respect de part et d'autre. Certains voyageurs se considèrent en terrain conquis, prennent des photos à tout va, comme ce gros con à Varanasi (PJ). Il y a dix ou quinze ans, ce genre de comportement était impensable... A l'inverse, j'ai également senti beaucoup d'Indiens plus arrogants vis-à-vis des étrangers, moins amicaux.
"je suis heureuse de ne pas y être née"
elle est idiote cette phrase.quand on nait dans un pays, on s'y habitue non ?!!! Si un indien disait "hereusement je ne suis pas né en france pour bouffer la lasagne de cheval" Mais nous , on est là et on en bouffe!!!
alllllôôôô !!! vous me recevez?
Ta remarque ne m'est pas destinée, mais non, cette phrase n'est pas si idiote........
Dans certains pays, (il n'y a pas qu'en Inde), dans certaines circonstances, (les pays en guerre), devant certaines inégalités entre l'homme et la femme, il ne doit pas être si aisé de s'habituer, comme tu dis. 😕 Disons plutôt que les femmes indiennes sont obligées de respecter certaines coutumes, d'obéir à leur mari, etc. Et leur condition n'est pas du tout enviable pour une femme européenne !
Alors on peut très bien se dire comme Yaralava l'a écrit : "Heureusement que je ne suis pas née dans tel ou tel pays"....
(Ta comparaison par contre.... Ben, excuse-moi mais elle est idiote ! 😉)
Mais bon, on ne va pas lancer le débat...
elle est idiote cette phrase.quand on nait dans un pays, on s'y habitue non ?!!! Si un indien disait "hereusement je ne suis pas né en france pour bouffer la lasagne de cheval" Mais nous , on est là et on en bouffe!!!
alllllôôôô !!! vous me recevez?
Ta remarque ne m'est pas destinée, mais non, cette phrase n'est pas si idiote........
Dans certains pays, (il n'y a pas qu'en Inde), dans certaines circonstances, (les pays en guerre), devant certaines inégalités entre l'homme et la femme, il ne doit pas être si aisé de s'habituer, comme tu dis. 😕 Disons plutôt que les femmes indiennes sont obligées de respecter certaines coutumes, d'obéir à leur mari, etc. Et leur condition n'est pas du tout enviable pour une femme européenne !
Alors on peut très bien se dire comme Yaralava l'a écrit : "Heureusement que je ne suis pas née dans tel ou tel pays"....
(Ta comparaison par contre.... Ben, excuse-moi mais elle est idiote ! 😉)
Mais bon, on ne va pas lancer le débat...
🤪Une autre version de l'incident A Agra
http://www.liberation.fr/societe/2013/03/19/inde-une-britannique-blessee-en-voulant-echapper-a-une-agression_889647
Effectivement, j'avais moi aussi la prétention de croire qu'en notre qualité de touristes (qui rapportent donc de l'argent au pays, font vivre l'industrie du tourisme, et bla bla bla), nous étions "intouchables" (et là, je n'essaie pas de faire de vilains jeux de mots). Il faut croire qu'on est loin du compte, que nos peaux blanches ne nous protègent de rien, et peut-être même, au contraire... Évidemment, on parle beaucoup des cas d'agressions qui touchent les touristes, mais on ne répétera jamais assez que ce genre d'atrocités touche une indienne à toutes les 20 minutes, et que bien souvent (pour ne pas dire presque toujours), les agresseurs ne sont pas punis pour leur geste.
Bref, même si évidemment il faut peut-être (sûrement) revoir la façon dont les touristes voyagent en Inde (code vestimentaires, conduite, respect, rapport de supériorité, etc), et que la culture indienne a beaucoup à y voir, cela n'expliquera jamais, ou du moins ne justifiera jamais ces horreurs qu'ont vécues la suissesse et la britannique dont il est question dans les post précédents, et des millions d'indiennes par année...
Bref, même si évidemment il faut peut-être (sûrement) revoir la façon dont les touristes voyagent en Inde (code vestimentaires, conduite, respect, rapport de supériorité, etc), et que la culture indienne a beaucoup à y voir, cela n'expliquera jamais, ou du moins ne justifiera jamais ces horreurs qu'ont vécues la suissesse et la britannique dont il est question dans les post précédents, et des millions d'indiennes par année...
🤪tu t'égares 1 peu en parlant de Millions d'indiennes!!!!.
http://www.planetoscope.com/Criminalite/1202-nombre-de-viols-commis-dans-le-monde.html
Effectivement, je devrais réviser mes maths, j'imaginais qu'avec 1 aux 20 minutes le total serait de beaucoup supérieur à quelques milliers. Mes excuses pour l'exagération, et merci pour la correction.
Toutefois, le message que je tentais de transmettre reste le même, que ce soit des millions ou des milliers...
Effectivement, j'avais moi aussi la prétention de croire qu'en notre qualité de touristes (qui rapportent donc de l'argent au pays, font vivre l'industrie du tourisme, et bla bla bla), nous étions "intouchables" (et là, je n'essaie pas de faire de vilains jeux de mots). Il faut croire qu'on est loin du compte, que nos peaux blanches ne nous protègent de rien, et peut-être même, au contraire... Évidemment, on parle beaucoup des cas d'agressions qui touchent les touristes, mais on ne répétera jamais assez que ce genre d'atrocités touche une indienne à toutes les 20 minutes, et que bien souvent (pour ne pas dire presque toujours), les agresseurs ne sont pas punis pour leur geste.
C'est peut-être une fausse impression, mais d'une manière générale, je trouve la société indienne plus agressive qu'il y a dix ans. Qu'en pensez-vous?
Bref, même si évidemment il faut peut-être (sûrement) revoir la façon dont les touristes voyagent en Inde (code vestimentaires, conduite, respect, rapport de supériorité, etc), et que la culture indienne a beaucoup à y voir, cela n'expliquera jamais, ou du moins ne justifiera jamais ces horreurs qu'ont vécues la suissesse et la britannique dont il est question dans les post précédents, et des millions d'indiennes par année...
Millions ou milliers, tu as évidemment raison: rien ne peut justifier ce genre d'acte.
C'est peut-être une fausse impression, mais d'une manière générale, je trouve la société indienne plus agressive qu'il y a dix ans. Qu'en pensez-vous?
Bref, même si évidemment il faut peut-être (sûrement) revoir la façon dont les touristes voyagent en Inde (code vestimentaires, conduite, respect, rapport de supériorité, etc), et que la culture indienne a beaucoup à y voir, cela n'expliquera jamais, ou du moins ne justifiera jamais ces horreurs qu'ont vécues la suissesse et la britannique dont il est question dans les post précédents, et des millions d'indiennes par année...
Millions ou milliers, tu as évidemment raison: rien ne peut justifier ce genre d'acte.
Oui, car faire du vélo et camper, c'est ce qui est dit dans les news , est inconséquent!..d'autant qu'il y a des guesthouses pas chères, ce sont d'autres mœurs...tenir compte de cela!!
j'ai vu des femmes sur certaines plages très dévêtues, choquer la population.je suis très triste pour ce couple, et l'Inde dont ça donne une image négative......
Personnellement j'ai fais pas mal de voyages à vélo et j’adore faire du camping sauvage. Je ne suis toutefois jamais allé en Inde car la densité de la population y est élevée ce qui rend la pratique du vélo un peu exposée sur les routes et le camping sauvage discret impossible. Ceci peut toutefois changer d'une région à l'autre. Je crois toutefois qu'il ne faut pas faire d'amalgame entre les tenues légère de certaines touriste et le fais divers arrivé aux cyclotouristes suisse. Rien ne permet de dire que leur tenue était provocante et même si éventuellement c'était le cas celà ne justifie pas un viol. Enfin pour terminer je ne suis pas complètement étonné de ce genre de dérapage en Inde dans la mesure ou la redistribution de la richesse ne fonctionne pas en Inde. Ce pays est technologiquement avancé, est capable de lancer des satellites, détient l'arme atomique et est un leader de la construction automobile mais ne parvient pas à faire avancer les conditions de vie de sa population la plus pauvre.
Personnellement j'ai fais pas mal de voyages à vélo et j’adore faire du camping sauvage. Je ne suis toutefois jamais allé en Inde car la densité de la population y est élevée ce qui rend la pratique du vélo un peu exposée sur les routes et le camping sauvage discret impossible. Ceci peut toutefois changer d'une région à l'autre. Je crois toutefois qu'il ne faut pas faire d'amalgame entre les tenues légère de certaines touriste et le fais divers arrivé aux cyclotouristes suisse. Rien ne permet de dire que leur tenue était provocante et même si éventuellement c'était le cas celà ne justifie pas un viol. Enfin pour terminer je ne suis pas complètement étonné de ce genre de dérapage en Inde dans la mesure ou la redistribution de la richesse ne fonctionne pas en Inde. Ce pays est technologiquement avancé, est capable de lancer des satellites, détient l'arme atomique et est un leader de la construction automobile mais ne parvient pas à faire avancer les conditions de vie de sa population la plus pauvre.
Ça ne peut pas être seulement un problème de pauvreté. Je vois surtout plutôt un problème de frustration sexuelle chez les hommes du aux contraintes imposées par leur cadre social, doublé de ce qu'évoque la femme occidentale dans leur imaginaire. qu'ils fantasment comme très libérée et facile, et qui représentent le contraire de la chasteté valorisée chez les femmes indiennes. Ce qui n'aide pas, c'est que ce cliché est entretenu dans les publicités, les films, etc...
"Disons plutôt que les femmes indiennes sont obligées de respecter certaines coutumes, d'obéir à leur mari, etc.
Et leur condition n'est pas du tout enviable pour une femme européenne ! "
ce que tu dit n'est pas faut.Mais les indiennes se sentent bien.elles se sentent surtout pas soumises.c'est à la vue de s europeens.Il y a des femmes qui devoltent.par fois ça finit par un divorce.la vie devient comme la vie européenne.
ce que tu dit n'est pas faut.Mais les indiennes se sentent bien.elles se sentent surtout pas soumises.c'est à la vue de s europeens.Il y a des femmes qui devoltent.par fois ça finit par un divorce.la vie devient comme la vie européenne.
Sauter par une fenêtre d'une chambre d'hôtel en Inde !!!!
Y'a des grilles à (pratiquement) toutes les fenêtres en Inde.

Il n'y a pas moyen que quelqu'un entre dans votre chambre d'hôtel en Inde. A moins que vous n'ayiez pas tiré le ou les verrou(s) !!!
Et puis y'a pas qu'en Inde que ces crimes se produisent
Sofie Peeters - Femme de la rue (Bruxelles) - Vidéo Dailymotion
Y'a des grilles à (pratiquement) toutes les fenêtres en Inde.

Il n'y a pas moyen que quelqu'un entre dans votre chambre d'hôtel en Inde. A moins que vous n'ayiez pas tiré le ou les verrou(s) !!!
Et puis y'a pas qu'en Inde que ces crimes se produisent
Sofie Peeters - Femme de la rue (Bruxelles) - Vidéo Dailymotion
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Bonjour ,
Cette touriste à eu de la chance ....
d'etre deja au 1 er étage et de se trouver dans une chambre sans barreaux aux fenetres ( oui oui çà existe en Inde )
Par une simple recherche, elle avait un balcon à sa fenêtre.
Au conditionnel, elle serait passée sur le Balcon de la chambre voisine.
Donc les supputations de certains... et quel intérêt?.
A Agra, un endroit sympa et sécuritaire pour les hommes/femmes à 650 roupies en double : http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotel_Review-g297683-d677116-Reviews-Tourists_Rest_House-Agra_Uttar_Pradesh.html
A Agra, un endroit sympa et sécuritaire pour les hommes/femmes à 650 roupies en double : http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotel_Review-g297683-d677116-Reviews-Tourists_Rest_House-Agra_Uttar_Pradesh.html
Le lien que tu viens de poster c'est la guest house ou elle etait ?
Bonjour,
Il y a très souvent des barreaux aux fenêtres en Inde, mais pas toujours ... J'ai eu des fenêtres sans barreaux à Rishikesh par exemple . A Dharamsala, j'avais un balcon, auquel j'accédais de ma chambre par une porte tout simplement ....on pouvait donc sauter du balcon . Pareil à Udaipur . 🙂
Il y a très souvent des barreaux aux fenêtres en Inde, mais pas toujours ... J'ai eu des fenêtres sans barreaux à Rishikesh par exemple . A Dharamsala, j'avais un balcon, auquel j'accédais de ma chambre par une porte tout simplement ....on pouvait donc sauter du balcon . Pareil à Udaipur . 🙂
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
🤪Ta vidéo est certes juste à l'endroit des femmes mais reste très hypocrite.
En effet, on devine d'emblé qui sont ces hommes coutumiers de ces insultes régressive pour l'ensemble de la population.
dans ce journal, ils ne disent pas qui sont ces hommes malgré que l'ont devine de suite. Idem en France.
IL m'arrive en France en étant avec mon épouse en Balade que celle-ci devant moi se fasse insulté comme dans la vidéo et rien qu'à la voix sans se retourner, ont à compris.
Mais les indiennes se sentent bien.elles se sentent surtout pas soumises.
J'ai crû comprendre le contraire suite au viol et au décès de cette étudiante à Delhi.
Les manifestantes semblaient avoir alors un avis sensiblement différent du tien...😇
Je trouve assez consternant cette attitude occidentale qui consiste à toujours nier les problèmes de la femme dans certains pays au nom de la sacro-sainte tradition et du sacro-saint respect...
Toutes ces femmes ne sont pas telles que vous l'imaginez. Elles voudraient elles-aussi s'émanciper du carcan des traditions machistes en vigueur dans leur pays.😕
J'ai crû comprendre le contraire suite au viol et au décès de cette étudiante à Delhi.
Les manifestantes semblaient avoir alors un avis sensiblement différent du tien...😇
Je trouve assez consternant cette attitude occidentale qui consiste à toujours nier les problèmes de la femme dans certains pays au nom de la sacro-sainte tradition et du sacro-saint respect...
Toutes ces femmes ne sont pas telles que vous l'imaginez. Elles voudraient elles-aussi s'émanciper du carcan des traditions machistes en vigueur dans leur pays.😕
😉Non vraiment, non!!!!! (je n'ai jamais dit cela).
C'est une guesthouse que je connais, super sympa.
Je dois même y retourner dès janvier 2014 avec mon épouse.
ok je t'ai lu rapidement c'est pour çà
je note egalement l adresse car je dois me rendre a Agra egalement
merci
Je viens de regarder ta vidéo, c'est exactement ça!
Etre jolie, féminine et seule = remarques désobligeantes 😕 = danger.
Faut - il est moins jolie, et pas féminine pour avoir la paix? 😕
Fainéanter dans un monde neuf est la plus absorbante des occupations... (N.Bouvier)
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/monde/20130320.OBS2466/l-inde-durcit-sa-legislation-apres-une-serie-de-viols.html
un début timide, peut être des changements....
"Ranjana Kumari, directrice de l'association Centre for Social Research, a en particulier loué la décision de sanctionner des policiers qui n'auraient pas enregistré de plaintes pour harcèlement ou agression sexuelle.
"Cela va beaucoup aider à mettre fin à la culture de la honte qui entoure les victimes de crimes sexuels. Elles n'auront plus peur d'aller voir la police si elles sont attaquées", a-t-elle jugé."
Le voici, LE vrai obstacle au changement : si les victimes n'osent même pas dénoncer leur agresseur, ou si elle le font, mais que jamais ces derniers ne sont jugés pour leur geste, le fait d'augmenter la peine de prison à 20 ans plutôt que 10 ne réglera rien... Reste plus qu'à espérer qu'enfin, les nouvelles lois changeront un tant soit peu les mentalités...
Le voici, LE vrai obstacle au changement : si les victimes n'osent même pas dénoncer leur agresseur, ou si elle le font, mais que jamais ces derniers ne sont jugés pour leur geste, le fait d'augmenter la peine de prison à 20 ans plutôt que 10 ne réglera rien... Reste plus qu'à espérer qu'enfin, les nouvelles lois changeront un tant soit peu les mentalités...
J'aime beaucoup l'Inde mais quand j'en rentre je suis heureuse de ne pas y être née, de savoir ce qu'est être une femme indépendante et libre.
Je suis parfaitement d'accord avec vous. Je me suis fait la même réflexion au retour d'Inde.
Je suis parfaitement d'accord avec vous. Je me suis fait la même réflexion au retour d'Inde.
Cela dit, il existe de nombreux autres pays que l'Inde où il est préférable de ne pas être née...😐
Mais les indiennes se sentent bien.elles se sentent surtout pas soumises.
J'ai crû comprendre le contraire suite au viol et au décès de cette étudiante à Delhi.
Les manifestantes semblaient avoir alors un avis sensiblement différent du tien...😇
Je trouve assez consternant cette attitude occidentale qui consiste à toujours nier les problèmes de la femme dans certains pays au nom de la sacro-sainte tradition et du sacro-saint respect...
Toutes ces femmes ne sont pas telles que vous l'imaginez. Elles voudraient elles-aussi s'émanciper du carcan des traditions machistes en vigueur dans leur pays.😕
Je n'aurais pas pu mieux le dire. Lire de réflexions comme peuvent l'écrire Franck me révoltent pour la condition féminine. Se cantonner à dire "On est né dans cette situation et ne connaissant rien d'autre, on est satisfait et épanoui" c'est, d'une part, ne pas réfléchir bien loin et d'autre part, ne pas ouvrir les yeux sur des réalités.
J'ai crû comprendre le contraire suite au viol et au décès de cette étudiante à Delhi.
Les manifestantes semblaient avoir alors un avis sensiblement différent du tien...😇
Je trouve assez consternant cette attitude occidentale qui consiste à toujours nier les problèmes de la femme dans certains pays au nom de la sacro-sainte tradition et du sacro-saint respect...
Toutes ces femmes ne sont pas telles que vous l'imaginez. Elles voudraient elles-aussi s'émanciper du carcan des traditions machistes en vigueur dans leur pays.😕
Je n'aurais pas pu mieux le dire. Lire de réflexions comme peuvent l'écrire Franck me révoltent pour la condition féminine. Se cantonner à dire "On est né dans cette situation et ne connaissant rien d'autre, on est satisfait et épanoui" c'est, d'une part, ne pas réfléchir bien loin et d'autre part, ne pas ouvrir les yeux sur des réalités.
oui un bon petit début ... à suivre de près
Bonjour,
Les lois , si elles sont bien faites et bien appliquées aident à faire changer les mentalités . Mais ça prend du temps , beaucoup de temps, il y a tellement de facteurs en jeu qui s'entremêlent . Ces derniers temps, beaucoup de femmes indiennes manifestent dans la rue , c'est déjà le signe qu'un changement est en route dans les mentalités , si petit soi-t-il.
Les lois , si elles sont bien faites et bien appliquées aident à faire changer les mentalités . Mais ça prend du temps , beaucoup de temps, il y a tellement de facteurs en jeu qui s'entremêlent . Ces derniers temps, beaucoup de femmes indiennes manifestent dans la rue , c'est déjà le signe qu'un changement est en route dans les mentalités , si petit soi-t-il.
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
😉Un petit tour d'horizon pour l'avenir, 1 instantané.
http://www.jolpress.com/inde-jeunesse-education-croissance-pauvrete-article-818270.html
je suis d'accord, voir les femmes manifester est un bon signe ! mais l'évolution de la société prendra du temps.
Le problème avec ce genre de drame c'est que ça risque d'inciter les hommes à "tenir" leurs femmes dedans à la maison !
Il faudrait d'abord appliquer les lois et puis surtout développer l éducation, pour permettre une meilleure condition matérielle, et aussi pour faire évoluer les mentalités. Apprendre au jeunes hommes à respecter les femmes mais aussi apprendre aux femmes à oser se faire respecter.
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What we found interesting when crunching the numbers is that in Sri Lanka, it’s not necessarily meals or short trips that blow the budget, but rather flights, certain accommodations, cultural activities, and all those little expenses we sometimes forget, like tips.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea, we’ve put everything together on our blog with our experience, a detailed breakdown of expenses, and practical info on money while there, withdrawals, and tipping:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-sri-lanka-pour-un-voyage-de-2-semaines/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Hi everyone,
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
Hi there,
We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
Thanks in advance.
We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Nepal and would love to do a helicopter tour to Everest with Namche Heli Service. Has anyone here used this agency? I can’t seem to find any reviews online. Thanks in advance!
Kloki
We’re planning a trip to Nepal and would love to do a helicopter tour to Everest with Namche Heli Service. Has anyone here used this agency? I can’t seem to find any reviews online. Thanks in advance!
Kloki
Hey fellow travelers,
I’m spending two weeks studying Hindi in the mornings in Delhi, in the Hauz Khas neighborhood. What spots should I check out in this area? Any cafés to chill at? How do I get to other parts of Delhi? By rickshaw? Is it easy to negotiate the price upfront?
Thanks in advance. 😊 Marlène
I’m spending two weeks studying Hindi in the mornings in Delhi, in the Hauz Khas neighborhood. What spots should I check out in this area? Any cafés to chill at? How do I get to other parts of Delhi? By rickshaw? Is it easy to negotiate the price upfront?
Thanks in advance. 😊 Marlène
Hi,
I’m leaving this Saturday for Northern India from 15/02 to 27/02. I’m planning to visit New Delhi, Agra, Chand Baori, Jaipur, Ranthambore, Bundi, Udaipur, and Jodhpur.
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
I’d like to arrive in India at New Delhi Airport with some cash. I was wondering if the exchange rates at the airport are any good or if it’s best to avoid them (and exchange in the city instead?).
Thanks for your help.
Thanks for your help.
NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Hi there,
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
Hello my fellow globetrotters, could anyone tell me how to find the French colonial cemetery in Pondicherry? It seems tricky to locate.
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
I'm looking for a small, not-too-touristy restaurant in Fort Kochi. Do you know one not too far from Jacob Road?
Thanks
Hi there,
My wife and I are getting ready for this tour from March 27 to April 8.
I’d love to know if anyone’s traveled with Salaun Holidays before? How many people are usually in a group? How much cash should we bring?
We’re also unsure about what clothes to pack..... plus sheets and pillowcases?
And if you’ve got any tips to avoid being too bothered by beggars and touts.
Any advice you’ve got would be really helpful.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’d like to travel to Rajasthan and the Ganges Valley—it’s my first time going on a long-haul trip, and I’m thinking of booking with BTtours from Belgium (or Salaün in France). Has anyone here traveled with this agency before and can share their experience? I was planning to go around November, but some people tell me it might still be pretty cold (around 8°C)—is that true?
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
Hi there.
We’re heading to India at the end of December for a month.
I planned an itinerary: Delhi, Nawalgarh, Sikar, Jodhpur, Udaipur, Chittaurgarh, Bundi, Jaipur, Bharatpur, and back to Delhi.
Our driver told us it’s not possible because there are no roads.
He’s suggesting the usual tourist circuit, which we don’t want to do.
What do you think of my route?
Any tips?
Thanks, community!
Hello,
We’re a group of 4 looking for a driver and car for our stay in Kerala from November 22 to December 12, 2025. We’ve already planned an itinerary starting from Cochin.
We’ve traveled with a driver before during our trip to Rajasthan.
Thanks for your replies!
Yves
Hi everyone,
we’re heading to Tamil Nadu and Kerala at the start of the year for 30 days. We did Rajasthan 12 years ago, but things change fast.
I’ve read that to get a SIM card, you have to buy it at a shop and then go to the operator to get a number; you’d also need an Indian mobile number. Has anyone here had recent experience with this?
For buses and trains, do you need to book them well in advance?
Any tips are welcome—thanks in advance!
Happy holidays to all,
Philippe






