Traitement anti-paludisme au Vietnam et Cambodge
by JPB13
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Devant effectuer un voyage Vietnam(Régions du Nord, Centre et Sud)-Cambodge (Angkor)cet été devons nous prendre un traitement anti, palu et si oui lequel?
bonjour jean paul
Le plus simple et de voir avec votre medecin et d etre deja a jour dans les vaccinations obligatoires en france(bcg tetanos)?.
Si vous allez dans les regions touristiques il esr rare de contracter le palu sauf si vous allez dans la vrai campagne est ce le cas?
Je passe plusieurs mois par an au vietnam et depuis des années etant jamais contaminé par cette maladie grave et sans vaccinations vivant plutot en milieu urbain il est vrai.
Mais sans vaccination il y a des traitements preventifs ( style cachet mandarone) a prendre avant le sejour et a continuer une semaine aprés le retour.
tres bon sejour dans ce pays
fifi777
Pas nécessaire sauf peut-être si vous allez dans les montagnes du Nord (région de Dien Bien Phu).
J'ai vécu au vietnam. J'avais emmené de la malarone, au cas où mais finalement je ne m'en suis pas servi. Dans les régions touristiques pas besoin. Pour Angkor, je ne l'ai pas utilisé.
Mais après, c'est à vous de voir.
Mais protégez vous quand même des moustiques, type insect ecran, et le soir vêtements longs.
Mais protégez vous quand même des moustiques, type insect ecran, et le soir vêtements longs.
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vécu un an au Viêt Nam
Les médecins vous diront toujours de vous faire vacciner et traitement aniti-palu pour se couvrir, mais que savent-ils de ces pays ? Je ne sais pas pour le Cambodge, mais pour le Vietnam, le traitement anti-palu est inutile sauf si vs allez dans les jungles. Un bon produit anti-moustique (à a amener, cher ici) est tout ce qu'il vous faut.
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Hello,
Tous comme le disent les autres membres, il faut que vous consultez son médecin. Toute fois, j'ai été au Cambodge en début d'année, dans pas mal de région aucun souci avec le palu MAIS j'avais sur moins une boite de traitement contre le paludisme au cas où, une moustiquaire imprégnée pour le lit et un antimoustique.
Je crois que le mieux c'est d'être prévoyant et pas forcément de faire vacciner pour tout et ingurgiter des pilules mais c'est très personnel comme raisonnement !
Bon voyage, ces pays sont magnifiques !
Schuldi www.schuldisworld.com
Tous comme le disent les autres membres, il faut que vous consultez son médecin. Toute fois, j'ai été au Cambodge en début d'année, dans pas mal de région aucun souci avec le palu MAIS j'avais sur moins une boite de traitement contre le paludisme au cas où, une moustiquaire imprégnée pour le lit et un antimoustique.
Je crois que le mieux c'est d'être prévoyant et pas forcément de faire vacciner pour tout et ingurgiter des pilules mais c'est très personnel comme raisonnement !
Bon voyage, ces pays sont magnifiques !
Schuldi www.schuldisworld.com
Que savent les médecins de famille - et els autres - des conditions au Vietnam ? RIEN ou ce qu'ils lisent dans les journaux ou guides ou sur l'Internet - qui n'est pas fiable dans ce cas - qui listent toutes les maladies du monde y compris fièvre jaune et bilharsioze comme si le Vietnam éatit le Congo ex-Belge. Savent-ils par ex que la région très touristique de Sapa a été déclarée "sans malaria" il y a des années ??? Le seul vaccin qu'il est peut-être préférable de faire est contre l'hépatite B
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Consulter un médecin, de préférence spécialisée en médecine tropicale, est utile.
Le souci avec beaucoup de médecin, même aux consultations de l'Institut Pasteur de Paris, c'est un fonctionnement "tout ou rien". Il suffit qu'une petite partie du pays concerné soit infestée par la malaria pour que tout voyageur dans ce pays se voit prescrire un traitement anti-malarique, quelle que soit les zones où il va voyager.
L'OMS (Organisation Mondiale de la Santé) publie chaque année un rapport sur l'état des lieux au niveau mondial, avec un détail pour chaque pays. Information très synthétique, mais plus nuancée que beaucoup de médecins.
Rapport 2013 récupérable sur http://www.who.int/malaria/publications/world_malaria_report_2013/en/.
Le niveau de risque de contracter la malaria (ou une autre maladie propagée par des moustiques, par ex. la dengue) est aussi conditionné par la saison. Plus c'est humide, plus c'est propice à la multiplication des moustiques, donc des maladies qu'ils propagent.
Avec des informations pertinentes, cela reste du choix de chacun de trouver le bon équilibre entre risque et effets indésirables.
Fabrice
Le souci avec beaucoup de médecin, même aux consultations de l'Institut Pasteur de Paris, c'est un fonctionnement "tout ou rien". Il suffit qu'une petite partie du pays concerné soit infestée par la malaria pour que tout voyageur dans ce pays se voit prescrire un traitement anti-malarique, quelle que soit les zones où il va voyager.
L'OMS (Organisation Mondiale de la Santé) publie chaque année un rapport sur l'état des lieux au niveau mondial, avec un détail pour chaque pays. Information très synthétique, mais plus nuancée que beaucoup de médecins.
Rapport 2013 récupérable sur http://www.who.int/malaria/publications/world_malaria_report_2013/en/.
Le niveau de risque de contracter la malaria (ou une autre maladie propagée par des moustiques, par ex. la dengue) est aussi conditionné par la saison. Plus c'est humide, plus c'est propice à la multiplication des moustiques, donc des maladies qu'ils propagent.
Avec des informations pertinentes, cela reste du choix de chacun de trouver le bon équilibre entre risque et effets indésirables.
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Mon médecin m'a donné de la Doxycycline qui est en fait un antibiotique. Il est remboursé par la sécurité sociale.
Je n'ai pas noté d'effet secondaire comme certain anti paludéen.
Maintenant, je n'ai pas vraiment été piqué par les moustiques qui étaient beaucoup plus attirée par mon amie.
J'aime pas trop prendre de médicaments mais je me suis dis que c'est un peu bête de partir en voyage et risquer de ramener le palu. J'ai connu quelqu'un qui n'a pas pris de médicament et qui a failli y perdre la vie, c'était à la suite d'un voyage au Mali.
Mon médecin m'a donné de la Doxycycline qui est en fait un antibiotique. Il est remboursé par la sécurité sociale.
Oui et non.
La Doxycycline est effectivement remboursée quand elle est prescrite pour une indication couverte par la Sécurité Sociale.
En indication contre le paludisme, c'est DoxyPalu qui doit être prescrit, et ce produit n'est pas remboursé par la S.S.
Certes, c'est la même molécule, mais c'est tourner les règles de remboursement.
Bien expliqué sur http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=1106597#1106597.
Cela suppose la rencontre d'une médecin ne respectant pas les règles de la S.S. et d'un client (en l'occurrence, le terme "patient" me semble inapproprié) bénéficiant d'une prestation indue.
Un tel débat franco-français doit "amuser" nos amis francophones.
De quoi comprendre pourquoi la Sécurité Sociale française est durablement et lourdement déficitaire. Un guichet ouvert où trop de professionnels et d'assurés profitent abusivement et délibérément du système. Petite triche dira-t-on ? En droit, il est possible que cela soit qualifiable d'escroquerie, mais je ne suis pas juriste.
Peut-être m'expliquera t-on que quand on a acheté un billet d'avion pour le Sud-Est asiatique (en décembre 2012, j'ai eu la chance de trouver à 595 euros, A/R je précise), on ne peut payer un traitement médical DoxyPalu : 12 euros la boite de 28 comprimés, donc 24 euros si l'on part 3 semaines, en comptant la prise pendant le mois suivant. Pour beaucoup, c'est bien moins que leur dépense en bière au cours de leur séjour.
Sans doute suis-je trop vieux jeu...
Fabrice
P.S. : la Sécurité Sociale ne rembourse par les frais de passeport et de visa. Au cas où certains essaieraient 😉
Oui et non.
La Doxycycline est effectivement remboursée quand elle est prescrite pour une indication couverte par la Sécurité Sociale.
En indication contre le paludisme, c'est DoxyPalu qui doit être prescrit, et ce produit n'est pas remboursé par la S.S.
Certes, c'est la même molécule, mais c'est tourner les règles de remboursement.
Bien expliqué sur http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=1106597#1106597.
Cela suppose la rencontre d'une médecin ne respectant pas les règles de la S.S. et d'un client (en l'occurrence, le terme "patient" me semble inapproprié) bénéficiant d'une prestation indue.
Un tel débat franco-français doit "amuser" nos amis francophones.
De quoi comprendre pourquoi la Sécurité Sociale française est durablement et lourdement déficitaire. Un guichet ouvert où trop de professionnels et d'assurés profitent abusivement et délibérément du système. Petite triche dira-t-on ? En droit, il est possible que cela soit qualifiable d'escroquerie, mais je ne suis pas juriste.
Peut-être m'expliquera t-on que quand on a acheté un billet d'avion pour le Sud-Est asiatique (en décembre 2012, j'ai eu la chance de trouver à 595 euros, A/R je précise), on ne peut payer un traitement médical DoxyPalu : 12 euros la boite de 28 comprimés, donc 24 euros si l'on part 3 semaines, en comptant la prise pendant le mois suivant. Pour beaucoup, c'est bien moins que leur dépense en bière au cours de leur séjour.
Sans doute suis-je trop vieux jeu...
Fabrice
P.S. : la Sécurité Sociale ne rembourse par les frais de passeport et de visa. Au cas où certains essaieraient 😉
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Je ne suis pas compétent en matière de médicament, j'ai pris ce que le médecin m'a donné. Le médecin de mon amie lui a donné le même médicament. Nous n'avons pas eu idée de contester les prescriptions d'un professionnel de la santé.
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In case of a bite, in addition to standard wound care, tetanus prevention… rabies prevention is essential.
Stay careful out there…
Seeing seals from a boat along the coast isn’t rare in these parts…
I need 2 dental implants and I'd like to get them done abroad (it's a question of price).
Thanks for helping me with my search (Turkey, Spain, Romania???)
Can you tell me if you're satisfied with the services provided by Dentist Miguel at Club Amigo in Holguin? I'd like to go there in mid-December. Is it worth the trip to get dental prosthetics done?
Thanks for getting back to me... Michelle from Quebec
Hello,
I’m looking for a dentist who can do a full lower-arch implant with a complete prosthesis. I’m in Quebec and available to travel to Cuba. Need full contact details. Thanks everyone!
Hi there,
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!