Trajet Luang Prabang / Phonsavan / Muang Ngoy
by Alda44
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Bonjour à tous,
Avis à tous les spécialistes du Laos:
Je vais visiter le Nord de la Thaïlande, du Laos et du Vietnam pendant 2 mois en début d'année prochaine.
Je vais passer 3 semaines au Laos début janvier. Mon périple en Thaïlande se terminera à Chiang Mai, et de là, je compte visiter la partie Nord du Laos avant de visiter le Nord du Vietnam (Sapa- Hanoï..).
Je ne sais pas comment organiser mon itinéraire sachant que je souhaite visiter Luang Prabang, la Plaine de Jarres et Muang Ngoy.
Je pensais peut-être prendre l'avion ou bus/slow boat de Chiang Mai à Luang Prabang.
Puis de Luang Prabang, descendre à Phonsavan en bus et remonter en bus par la route est (route 6 et 1c) et bateau jusqu'à Muang ngoy. Puis remonter en bus la route 2E et QL12 jusqu'à Sa Pa.
Qu'en pensez-vous?
Tous vos conseils sont les bienvenus!
Merci d'avance,
Quelques suggestions...ayant fait cette route à de nombreuses reprises
De Chiang Mai à Luang prabang soit l'avion soit la route soit route + bateau.
pour les 2 dernières hypothèses il faut aller à Chiang Khong ou on traverse le Mekong pour Huay Xai où on prend son visa.
A Huay Xai on peut descendre sur LP en 2 jours de bateau avec nuit à Pakbeng. Veiller simplement à ne pas prendre un bateau surchargé...
On peut aussi y aller en bus via Luang Nantha, Udomxai puis LP...la durée est une question de chance avec les correspondances.
Dans ce cas, ma suggestion est d'aller à Muang Gnoi à partir de UdomXai: un bus jusque Nong Khiaw puis remonter la Nam Ou en bateau. On redescend alors vers LP soit en bus soit en bateau ce que je recommande.
De Nong Kwiaw on peut rejoindre difficilement Phonsavan via la route vers Sam Neua que l'on quitte à Huamuang pour prendre une correspondance indéterminée vers Phonsavan. Cette route est est pénible tant par le bus surchargé que par l'état de la route.
Il vaut mieux redescendre vers LP et de la prendre un bus sur Ponsavan.
Il est aussi possible de faire un AR LP-Muang Gnoi en bus/bateau.
De Ponsavan on peut rejoindre Vientiane en bus via Paksan et là, retraverser la frontière Thai.
espérant être clair et utile.
Arthur
D accord avec Arthur.
quand tu parles de Muang ngoi il s agit bien de Muang ngoi Neua ?
on a adoré cet endroit. passe une nuit dans un des villages alentour les ballades à pied valent le coup.
attention pas de bateau tous les jours ; il faut une dizaine de passagers sinon on se partage le prix du bateau.
on ne mesure pas sa vie au nombre de respirations qu on a prises mais au nombre de lieux et de moments qui nous ont coupé le souffle ( inconnu )
Bonjour,
Je vous remercie tous les deux pour vos messages! (je n'étais pas sûre d'avoir des réponses)
En fait, Arthur, je ne souhaite pas rejoindre Vientiane mais le Vietnam (le Nord).
Ce que tu dis est très intéressant: je me dis en te lisant que si Luang Prabang-Phonsavan se fait mieux que Nong Kwiaw- Phonsavan: je pourrais peut-être faire d'abord Chiang-Mai - Luang Prabang jusqu'à la plaine de jarres puis revenir à Luang Prabang avant de remonter à Nong Khiaw puis remonter la Nam Ou jusqu'à Muang Ngoy et enfin remonter vers Sa Pa au Vietnam.
Qu'en pensez-vous?
Ouhh, dur dur les itinéraires! 😉
Bjp 21, il s'agit effectivement du village Muang Ngoy Neua. J'ignorais que les bateaux ne circulaient pas tous les jours alors je te remercie pour cette information.
Encore une fois merci,
Alda
Petite erreur de ma part : il y a plus de chances d avoir des bateaux tous les jours si tu fais Nong Kiaw Muang Ngoy Neua dans un sens comme dans l autre .
ou c est plus difficile de trouver un bateau c est si tu veux aller encore plus au nord jusqu à Hat Sa. En effet beaucoup de voyageurs ne font que l aller retour .
ceci dit tu peux rejoindre le nord du vietnam à partir de Muang Khua direction Dien bien phu.
excuse moi
ou c est plus difficile de trouver un bateau c est si tu veux aller encore plus au nord jusqu à Hat Sa. En effet beaucoup de voyageurs ne font que l aller retour .
ceci dit tu peux rejoindre le nord du vietnam à partir de Muang Khua direction Dien bien phu.
excuse moi
on ne mesure pas sa vie au nombre de respirations qu on a prises mais au nombre de lieux et de moments qui nous ont coupé le souffle ( inconnu )
2 suggestions alternatives:
1/De LP ou de Udom Xai tu vas d'abord à nong khiaw/Muang Gnoi. puis tu redescends par bateau sur LP d'où tu prends la route de Phonsavan et de Phongsavan tu prends le bus pour Sam Neua (environs intéressants!) d'ou tu peux traverser la frontière du Viet nam à Na Méo.
2/ de LP vu vas à Phonsavan AR puis de là tu vas en bateau ou en bus à Nong Khiaw/Muang Gnoi puis de là en bateau(pas tous les jours) ou en bus à Muang Khua d'ou tu prends un (mauvais) bus pour Sop Hun (frontière viet la plus proche de Dien Bien Phu).
Arthur
Super! Merci, vous êtes de sacrés experts!🙂
J'ai pas mal cherché sur le net sans réussir à trouver de réponse.
Bjp21, pas de souci pour la fréquence des bateaux.
Arthur, je pense que je vais choisir la seconde alternative: De Luang Prabang, bus jusqu'à Phonsavan puis retour en bus jusqu'à Luang Prabang. De Luang Prabang, bus jusqu'à Nong Khiaw et bateau jusquà Muang Ngoy. Puis bateau jusqu'à Muang Khua et bus pour Sop Hun.
Merci mille fois et n'hésitez pas si vous avez des remarques et d'autres conseils.
Alda
Bjp21, pas de souci pour la fréquence des bateaux.
Arthur, je pense que je vais choisir la seconde alternative: De Luang Prabang, bus jusqu'à Phonsavan puis retour en bus jusqu'à Luang Prabang. De Luang Prabang, bus jusqu'à Nong Khiaw et bateau jusquà Muang Ngoy. Puis bateau jusqu'à Muang Khua et bus pour Sop Hun.
Merci mille fois et n'hésitez pas si vous avez des remarques et d'autres conseils.
Alda
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Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!





