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Local transport Marrakech - Ait Bou Oulli
by Jfractal
Translated into English.
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Hi there,
I’m planning to cross the Atlas M’Goun-Toubkal range at the end of March and I’m looking for info on how to get to Ait Bou Oulli from Marrakech via Demnate.
Can anyone tell me if there’s a direct bus to Demnate and then a minibus (once it’s full) to Ait Bou Oulli? Is it doable in a day by bus or even a shared taxi?
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
Un hasard vaut mieux que mille rendez-vous
Hi,
I rarely take buses, but I can assure you it's possible and there's a pretty large bus station for the area right in the center... Just across from one of the few hotels in town, the Atlas Hotel (a rather expensive and average hotel, but it does the job if you need a quick fix). But with a grand taxi, you'll get there much faster, and I recommend that option... Also, check with the buses heading to Azilal—Demnate is on the way, and I think they stop at the bus station. So you might not find a direct connection to Demnate, but you will for Azilal... The grand taxis and minibuses to Tabant also leave from the same bus station, and they'll drop you off wherever you ask. Same thing—if you're not counting every penny, take a grand taxi. You'll save a lot of time. The 207, 307, 308, etc., make tons of stops, and it's more hassle loading and unloading than in a grand taxi...
I rarely take buses, but I can assure you it's possible and there's a pretty large bus station for the area right in the center... Just across from one of the few hotels in town, the Atlas Hotel (a rather expensive and average hotel, but it does the job if you need a quick fix). But with a grand taxi, you'll get there much faster, and I recommend that option... Also, check with the buses heading to Azilal—Demnate is on the way, and I think they stop at the bus station. So you might not find a direct connection to Demnate, but you will for Azilal... The grand taxis and minibuses to Tabant also leave from the same bus station, and they'll drop you off wherever you ask. Same thing—if you're not counting every penny, take a grand taxi. You'll save a lot of time. The 207, 307, 308, etc., make tons of stops, and it's more hassle loading and unloading than in a grand taxi...
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Thanks, that's cool! I read your posts from time to time... so full of relevant info!
I know about the grands taxis, and yes, they're a great option +++ since they're not far from the bus station. My question is: what time should I show up at the grands taxis stand? 1) to get a spot and 2) to get a good spot?
I went in early May 2024 to do the M'Goun trek to Keelat M'Gouna and took a bus to Azilal, then a minibus to reach the Ait Bouguemez valley... The bus made a stop at the intersection with the Demnate road but didn’t go there.
I know about the grands taxis, and yes, they're a great option +++ since they're not far from the bus station. My question is: what time should I show up at the grands taxis stand? 1) to get a spot and 2) to get a good spot?
I went in early May 2024 to do the M'Goun trek to Keelat M'Gouna and took a bus to Azilal, then a minibus to reach the Ait Bouguemez valley... The bus made a stop at the intersection with the Demnate road but didn’t go there.
Un hasard vaut mieux que mille rendez-vous
Grand taxis don’t really run on a schedule... They leave when they’re full. I’m not worried about leaving from Marrakech. If you show up in the morning, you’re sure to find one... Having a front seat is always better, but there’s no crystal ball to guarantee it... Do it in two stages—you’ll have a harder time finding a grand taxi to go exactly where you want.
While I rarely take public transport in Morocco since I always have my own vehicle, I’ve done it often in North Africa, and it’s pretty much the same system, just simpler since 5-seat cars are turned into 10-seaters, so better odds ^^... What I do when I can is come to the bus station the day before to organize things. March is a good time—it’s Ramadan, so you won’t be bothered by tea and skewer stops every 10 km. Still, come in the morning early enough before the afternoon siesta... Just avoid being on the road in the evening during iftar, unless you’re not in a hurry.
There are a few experts on the Morocco section who only travel the country by public transport—they might have more precise tips...
While I rarely take public transport in Morocco since I always have my own vehicle, I’ve done it often in North Africa, and it’s pretty much the same system, just simpler since 5-seat cars are turned into 10-seaters, so better odds ^^... What I do when I can is come to the bus station the day before to organize things. March is a good time—it’s Ramadan, so you won’t be bothered by tea and skewer stops every 10 km. Still, come in the morning early enough before the afternoon siesta... Just avoid being on the road in the evening during iftar, unless you’re not in a hurry.
There are a few experts on the Morocco section who only travel the country by public transport—they might have more precise tips...
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Any thoughts on snow conditions at the end of March in the area? I’m planning to start on March 27th and I’ve heard there’s quite a bit of snow this year!
I’ve got a few bivouacs at altitude, like the first day before Tizi n' Rouguelt, Taoudja pasture, Lake Tamda, etc.—around 2,500 m.
Doable at the end of March/beginning of April?
Un hasard vaut mieux que mille rendez-vous
Well... Yeah, there's been a bit more snow this year. I've got photos from quite a few spots in the High Atlas almost daily...
This morning, around Taghia, a little snow starting from 2,200m...
On the east side, near Agoudal, the last hostel going up the Tizi Ouano pass... Nothing, and it crosses the pass just fine... Shows that the snow holds more on the Atlantic side already...
No photos every day due to network issues, but I’ve also got a few contacts in the M'goun valley, though responses aren’t always quick, haha...
Send a WhatsApp voice message to the Tarkeddit refuge, +212677349362, or to the Rougoult gîte, +212637378811... They’re the closest and can give you real-time info. I won’t predict the weather—it doesn’t mean anything anymore. You can cross Ait Hamed in the middle of January-February without snow, just like I’ve been stuck there in early May...
No more seasons, as they say...😇
Tamda—you’re probably talking about the lake between (roughly) Telouet and Toufghine? Because "Tamda" isn’t a name, it’s just a translation. Basically, it means "lake lake" ^^... In Darija, a lot of people also say they’re looking for "Lac d’Aguelmame"—it’s not a proper name, it just means "lake." When hiking, knowing some topographic vocabulary in Tashelhit is really cool and useful... If you don’t know it, I can give you about ten useful words if you run into an "amksa"... (The first French topographers really didn’t bother.)
If you’re taking the Rougoult route, I assume you’re heading to Amzeri... Rougoult, hmm... Over 2,800m, all the same... Don’t prepay the champagne for the other side just yet... From Rougoult, you can also skip Amzeri and head straight to Imi n’Ikkis-Ichbakken. That seems ambitious in 2 or 3 weeks... Well... The range is vague—I’m not sticking my neck out. It’ll be somewhere between a yak-hair compression suit and a tank top... 😎
If you descend toward Amzeri, you’ll more or less pass Tassaout on your trail, where there’s a mountain gîte run by Youssef, who’s really nice... He’s also a guide, so he knows the area well. His WhatsApp: +212678871831...
Are you following the Tessaout? Passing through Megdaz? There’s a gîte in the village for 150 € half-board... Mohamed is pretty responsive at +212697277953... (The gîte’s access isn’t great for people with mobility issues yet.) By late March, if you’ve already made it through, following the Tessaout is nice...
Your starting point isn’t far from a small, almost-no-longer-typical fortified village... Boukal... Very photogenic from the road. You can sleep there too, but it’s far from the standard of the Adrar or Tissent gîtes...
Send a WhatsApp voice message to the Tarkeddit refuge, +212677349362, or to the Rougoult gîte, +212637378811... They’re the closest and can give you real-time info. I won’t predict the weather—it doesn’t mean anything anymore. You can cross Ait Hamed in the middle of January-February without snow, just like I’ve been stuck there in early May...
No more seasons, as they say...😇
Tamda—you’re probably talking about the lake between (roughly) Telouet and Toufghine? Because "Tamda" isn’t a name, it’s just a translation. Basically, it means "lake lake" ^^... In Darija, a lot of people also say they’re looking for "Lac d’Aguelmame"—it’s not a proper name, it just means "lake." When hiking, knowing some topographic vocabulary in Tashelhit is really cool and useful... If you don’t know it, I can give you about ten useful words if you run into an "amksa"... (The first French topographers really didn’t bother.)
If you’re taking the Rougoult route, I assume you’re heading to Amzeri... Rougoult, hmm... Over 2,800m, all the same... Don’t prepay the champagne for the other side just yet... From Rougoult, you can also skip Amzeri and head straight to Imi n’Ikkis-Ichbakken. That seems ambitious in 2 or 3 weeks... Well... The range is vague—I’m not sticking my neck out. It’ll be somewhere between a yak-hair compression suit and a tank top... 😎
If you descend toward Amzeri, you’ll more or less pass Tassaout on your trail, where there’s a mountain gîte run by Youssef, who’s really nice... He’s also a guide, so he knows the area well. His WhatsApp: +212678871831...
Are you following the Tessaout? Passing through Megdaz? There’s a gîte in the village for 150 € half-board... Mohamed is pretty responsive at +212697277953... (The gîte’s access isn’t great for people with mobility issues yet.) By late March, if you’ve already made it through, following the Tessaout is nice...
Your starting point isn’t far from a small, almost-no-longer-typical fortified village... Boukal... Very photogenic from the road. You can sleep there too, but it’s far from the standard of the Adrar or Tissent gîtes...
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Great for Contacts! I’ll reach out to them to find out the conditions.
Yes, I plan to follow the Tessaout then branch off toward Megdaz and Lake Tamda on the way to Telouet....
I’d love some basics to interact with the locals—useful and I think appreciated.
Un hasard vaut mieux que mille rendez-vous
Today's update... Quite a bit of snow fell last night on the Tizi n'Ouano and the M'Goun area—about 20-30 cm...
It can melt quickly...
It can melt quickly...
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Thanks for the feedback and all the best... I admit it would be wise to have a Plan B like the Djebel Saghro area. Sure, there are 3 weeks before my trek, but we’ll play it safe 😉
Do you live in Morocco?
Un hasard vaut mieux que mille rendez-vous
Just my heart... No, I have my house by the sea, just steps from the beach, not far from Mont Saint-Michel, and facing the Chausey Islands... Could be worse as a life... I need the ocean, and it's not in Morocco that I'll find that kind of happiness ^^
But I'm there very often, and since 1998, between 1 and 3 months a year... I'll spend more time there in 10 years (I'm not yet 50), but I also love Asia and the Indian subcontinent too much... I only have 6 months of vacation per year, I can't do it all ^^...
But I have a ton of contacts, and since the internet and WhatsApp are around, it's so easy to communicate in Morocco—especially since the networks aren't like in France. Here, we don't have the same standards, lol... So, I have 200 or 300 WhatsApp chats going, and the guys love sending me instant photos when the weather acts up... Or, if I need info, it doesn't take long...
The Saghro at this time of year... I'd pick that over the High Atlas any day...
But I'm there very often, and since 1998, between 1 and 3 months a year... I'll spend more time there in 10 years (I'm not yet 50), but I also love Asia and the Indian subcontinent too much... I only have 6 months of vacation per year, I can't do it all ^^...
But I have a ton of contacts, and since the internet and WhatsApp are around, it's so easy to communicate in Morocco—especially since the networks aren't like in France. Here, we don't have the same standards, lol... So, I have 200 or 300 WhatsApp chats going, and the guys love sending me instant photos when the weather acts up... Or, if I need info, it doesn't take long...
The Saghro at this time of year... I'd pick that over the High Atlas any day...
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Hi Olivier,
Tassaout Guesthouse... Does Youssef have a WhatsApp? Is +212678871831 the right number? It’s not recognized on the app.
Where exactly is the guesthouse... which village? Before or after Amezri when coming down from the pass?
Un hasard vaut mieux que mille rendez-vous
Ugh, in Morocco, a new SIM card is 20 MAD ^^ Prices can change quickly...
No, before that, at the first village on the way down, you need to take a trail on the left... The trail is better and more direct to the next village... By road, though, you have to go through Amzeri..
I’ll ask someone I know in Amzeri if they have their phone... Youssef isn’t from the mobile generation either... Not sure he even has WhatsApp...
I’ll ask someone I know in Amzeri if they have their phone... Youssef isn’t from the mobile generation either... Not sure he even has WhatsApp...
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!