Nous serons au Maroc pour 3 semaines du 20 juillet au 9 août. Nous arriverons sur Casablanca se rendrons sur Fez et ensuite nous souhaitons nous rendre faire de la randonnée 4 jours dans la Vallée Heureuse. Par la suite, nous souhaitons aller faire un bivouac à dos de dromadaire pour une nuit ou 2 et rejoindre Ouazarzate.
Nous filerons ensuite sur Marrakech pour se rendre à Essaouira et remonter la côte vers Casablanca pour revenir à Montréal.
Qu'en pensez-vous? Avez-vous des bus- train à nous suggérer? Je cherche également un guide pour la randonnée et un autre pour le bivouac.
2300 km en 18 jours, en sachant qu'on roule en moyenne à 60 km/h sur nationale (hors zone montagneuse), c'est déjà beaucoup en voiture de tourisme. En transports en commun, je ne suis pas sûr que ça passe : vitesse plus lente, temps d'attente pour les correspondances, horaires pas toujours adaptés à vos besoins, arriver tôt pour avoir des places, etc.
Vous gagnerez en temps et en souplesse d'organisation si vous optez pour une location de voiture (attention : évitez les agences internationales).
En plein été dans le désert, les T° peuvent dépasser les 60°C en journée (et peuvent ne pas tomber en dessous de 30°C la nuit). Une telle chaleur, ça terrasse : aucune énergie, sommeil difficile, recherche permanente d'un courant d'air...
Perso je supprimerais le projet Mhamid et je ne descendrais pas plus bas que Ouarzazate (où il fait déjà bien assez chaud !).
on va partout avec bus et "grands taxis", mais, comme déjà dit, avec un timing serré, on a pas trop le temps d'attendre et de jouer avec les transports.
mais rien n'est jamais impossible
essaie de détailler ton parcours et tronçon par tronçon tu vois les moyens de transports collectifs et approximativement le temps des trajets.
Nous serons au Maroc pour 3 semaines du 20 juillet au 9 août. Nous arriverons sur Casablanca se rendrons sur Fez et ensuite nous souhaitons nous rendre faire de la randonnée 4 jours dans la Vallée Heureuse. Par la suite, nous souhaitons aller faire un bivouac à dos de dromadaire pour une nuit ou 2 et rejoindre Ouazarzate.
Nous filerons ensuite sur Marrakech pour se rendre à Essaouira et remonter la côte vers Casablanca pour revenir à Montréal.
je vois à peu près ça ...
J1 casablanca arrivée
J2 casa - fes
J3 -4 Fes
J5 Fes Demnate (en gros) 500 km la journée.: un bus CTM qui met 10 h de fes à Beni mellal, ensuite c'est grand taxi ... 🤪) je pense qu'il faut deux jours pur faire ce trajet.
J6-7-8-9 vallée heureuse
J10 partir sur Mahmid : il faut passer par Ouarzazate, je ne penses pas possible en une journée d'y arriver ... ça décalerait tout d'un journée
J11 bivouac à mahmid
J12mahmid-Ouarzazate
J13 ouarzazate
J14 ouarzazate Marrakech
J15 Marrakech
J16Marrakech
J17 Essaouira
J18-19 la cote
J20 Casablanca
c'est chaud
perso, je zapperais Mahmid, comme deja dit, la t° dans le désert l'été, je ne ferais pas. ca laisse un peu de temps pour autre chose.
et comme dit Yasa, louer une voiture serait la solution.
En transports en commun, je ne suis pas sûr que ça passe : vitesse plus lente,
😂
Slt Murielle... Bon c'est juste pour déconner. Y a rien contre toi et je suis d'accord avec le reste MAIS....
J'aimerais bien comprendre quelles est cette mode de toujours dire que les bus sont lent...
Pour avoir rouler probablement entre 2 et 300 000 km en berline au Maroc je peux confirmer que les bus au Maroc ne sont pas lent... Il est rare que je traine derrière eux... ce sont plutôt eux qui me collent aux fesses....
Dans ce pays... il est inconcevable pour un marocain de perdre 2 secondes quand on roule.... Et les bus roulent comme des tarés... Et les nombreux accidents de bus le montrent...
Se faire doubler par un bus dans le Tichka et dans un virage sans visibilité... qui n'a jamais vécu ça... 😁
Et bien moi je dirais l'inverse.... Je conseil la location quand on veut prendre son temps et des photos.. et le bus quand on est pressé... 🤗
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Ceci étant dit , vous avez tout les deux raison , les bus ne sont pas lent , le Tichka je confirme certaines conduites ...brr ....mais ce qui est lent c'est les attentes entre les bus , n'oublie pas que les bus s'arrêtent souvent et ensuite ils mettent la sauce c'est sur pour certains d'entre eux ., ensuite les attentes pour les grands taxis qu'ils soient plein pour partir , bref .
Perso je conseille l a location de voiture pour faire ce périple .
non, un bus ne roule pas lentement, on est bien d'accord ! Mais il s'arrête souvent. C'est ce qui fait que la durée d'un trajet en bus est plus long qu'en voiture.
Et puis, je ne suis pas rentrée dans les détails, avec "les vaches folles" : un taxi collectif est capable de doubler le bus qui te double... 😛. Mais le principe d'attendre que le taxi soit plein avant de partir fait que le temps de trajet peut être très long.
les bus ctm et supratours ne s’arrêtent pas souvent : les arrêts sont prévus et il n'y en a pas d'autres.
par contre les petites compagnies, ç 'est parfois pénible, oui, tellement y'a d’arrêts un peu partout je charge je décharge je prends du fret ....
j'ai pris les deux, depuis des années je vois la différence ...
par contre les petites compagnies, dans la pampa, ça peut servir ces arrêts à la tête du cleint : :)
Tu veux parler de ces bus qui te doublent dangereusement pour aussitôt se garer sur le côté pour prendre un passager et te redoubler 2 mn plus tard à nouveau bêtement ? 😉
Ah oui... ils s'arrêtent souvent ceux là... Mais ils finissent tout de même toujours devant moi sur la ligne d'arrivée...🤔
Et je m'arrête plus qu'eux pour les photos de toute façon...
Bon je ne détourne pas plus la discussion... c'était juste une parenthèse... 😊
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Je pars grimper à Amellago en avril prochain. J' arrive à l'aéroport de FES le samedi 12 avril et je souhaiterais savoir quel est l'itinéraire le plus adapté…
J'aimerais savoir si quelqu'un s'est rendu à Taroudant en bus ou grand taxi, de Marrakech (ou d'Asni) par la route du Tizi-n-test??? J'aimerais bien arrêter à…
Je cherche un moyen de transport le moins chère pour me rendre à marrakech, pour me rendre par la suite sur agadir. Merci par avance pour vos infos. chaouane.
Nous aimerions aller a benni mellal et ses environs dont le lac bin el ouidane. Quel est le moyen de transport le plus pratique pour s'y rendre? est ce qu'il y…
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hi everyone,
We're leaving in early October 2026 and planning to travel from the Aït Bougmez Valley ("Happy Valley") to Skoura/Ouarzazate via Demnate and the R307/N23 route.
Has anyone taken this road recently? Is it passable with a regular car (non-4x4), or is a 4x4 absolutely necessary? Are there any ongoing construction projects or degraded sections to be aware of?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier.
Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel...
Day 3: Stop in Tetouan
Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains
Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!)
Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis
Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad)
After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF).
Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary:
From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure)
Arrival and departure: Essaouira
Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest
Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities
Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering?
Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac
Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel
Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac
Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep
Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac
Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac
Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest
Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay
Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac
Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight)
Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online
We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide?
👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.)
🍽️ Restaurants / meals
We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal.
👉 Any thoughts?
👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.)
For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal
Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊
🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood
We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street).
👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍
Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is...
My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music.
Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians?
We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley.
If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!